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[quote author=chemystery post=59462710]purem, it is evident you are here for attack.
Why the assumption that hopefullandlord is arrogant? Can you point out any display of his arrogance on nairaland?



U shud check his comments and posts to see more

chemystery:
If you take your own advise, you won't be bashing otematum. Bros align!

U shud understand what I wrote am not bashing him
Am just letting him know he's not an atheist

hopefulLandlord:
this is a loaded question, I'm NOT arrogant and I'm not rude


I'm Humane

you seem to be projecting too many things

Bro u'r one the celeb on NL so have been reading ur comments and posts, u'r arrogant and rude to the religious ones so that doesn't make u HUMANE

(3) UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SCIENCE BELIEF AND RELIGIOUS BELIEF.

The difference between belief in a scientific theory as opposed to belief in a religious dogma, boils down to the difference between the institution of science and the institutions of various religions. The underlying concept in religious institutions is that the nature of reality is known. The nature of reality is written in a book or scroll. This writing was originally done, or dictated, or inspired, by a god. Religious institutions are primarily concerned with spreading information about the "known" nature of reality, because in their understanding of reality, that is what they are required to do. Religious "facts" are not subject to testing, and in most cases cannot be tested. Religious "facts" are supported by evidence that is open to interpretation, or no evidence at all. Religious "facts" are not reviewed by all religions to reach a consensus. The underlying concept in the institution of science is that the nature of reality is unknown. The institution of science is primarily concerned with discovering the nature of reality without making assumptions. Scientific theories must, by definition, be testable (falsifiable). Theories must be published for review by other scientists with the intention of reaching a consensus. Accepted theories are supported by evidence that is not open to interpretation, or is consistently interpreted by qualified scientists. If evidence is found that contradicts a theory, the theory will be abandoned. One believes in a scientific authority, because they derive their authority from the review process, and because they have an interest in discovering truth. One believes in a religious authority, because they have been given authority by their superiors, who in turn get their authority from their subordinates. Religion has no interest in discovering truth because the "facts" are already known.

hopefulLandlord:
there are some misconceptions here

1. I have never implied I was "better" "smarter" "more intelligent" than anyone just because I don't believe in the existence of any god

2. atheism has no rule that says "you must respect the belief of others"

3. No belief that's brought into public sphere should be respected by default, every belief whose adherents think they need everyone to be an adherent of, who think its their right to pull autocracy (not just autocracy but their OWN version of autocracy) has given up it's right to be respected, such a belief has exposed itself to potential ridicule

A person’s right to swing his fist ends at the next guy’s nose. A person’s religious freedom ends when they try to practice it on other people.
If religions minded their own business and didn’t try to impose itself on society, there would be no problem. But we live in a democracy where people vote according to their irrational beliefs because they are afraid of what will happen to them when they are dead. They can’t vote unless it is for who an imaginary god approves of. They care about other people’s sex because their god might get mad. They attack people with different faiths.

eg
if I start believing the moon is made of green cheese and I keep it to myself, nobody would ridicule it but if I start telling everyone who cares to listen that what I believe about the Moon is true and want everyone to join me in believing that too, I have exposed that belief of mine to potential ridicule and I have no right to complain if its ridiculed, all I need to do is prove to those questioning it that I'm right by proving the moon is made of green cheese buy if all I can fall back on after being questioned on what I believe about the moon is something as meaningless as "Faith", then those who asked the question have the right to ridicule it

I'm not here to make people join my atheism, I have a target audience, I target more of the readers that are having doubts about their god/religion, i also target believers that are 100% sure their religion/god is true and others is false by exposing them to how adherents of those "false religion/gods/sects" are just as sure as theirs as he does his own, I like leaving my opponents and readers thinking and I "like losing arguments"

Bro lemme ask you a simple question "can your arrogance and rudeness change the minds of religion?"

The religion world is too wide for an atheist to divert

There is alot of atheist even before u were born, some keep it to themselves alone
There is what we call disagree to agree so when you know the truth there is no point in arguing with people u know u can't change there minds

LEARN TO BE HUMANE

OtemAtum:
What's dis one saying? How is it very difficult for you to know and acknowledge that your god and all other gods are created by God Almighty, the SUMMATION OF ALL ENERGIES, THE GREATEST CONSCIOUSNESS?

You mean reverald has God almighty according to ur false doctofus?

U shud be asking ursef wht ur saying coz dat ur god only exist in ur imagination

(2) UNDERSTAND THE DEFERENCE BETWEEN BELIEVE AND THRUT.


Consider the following examples:
A stranger comes to your door and tells you that your child has been killed in a car accident outside their school.
You would feel a pang of emotion, but this is a stranger. Do you believe them? Do they know who your child is? Is this some sort of cruel joke? Do you really believe that your child has been killed? You will be inclined to harbor some strong doubts.
Two police officers come to your door, squad car in the driveway. They tell you your child has been killed. They need you to come with them to identify the body.
You will in all likelihood believe them, they are police officers. You will feel the emotion as though you know for a fact that your child is dead. It will be real to you.
You should notice that the difference between these two examples is the authority of the messenger, not the message itself. These examples are also chosen for their emotional content, because the emotional content is a large part of what makes a situation real to us.
The point is, whether we believe something based on authority, or emotion, or both, we cannot know it is true until we see with our own eyes. The highest authority you can imagine could tell you the simplest thing, and you may believe them, and they may believe themselves, but that does not in any way make it true.

So hopefullandlord your arrogance to religion has make you a pagan not an atheist

hopefulLandlord:
it depends on what you define an atheist as cuz there's a wide definition of it

Because you are too desperate I will just jump to number 10


(10) RESPECT THE BELIEVES OF OTHERS

Let your rationality guide you, but do not let it lead you astray. Following a religion does not make anyone superior, nor does your atheism make you superior to anyone. Atheism has no dogma. Don't be fanatical when discussing your beliefs with others, and try not to be pretentious. It's fine to be passionate about your beliefs, but there is no need to dismiss people for their methods of creating meaning.
An atheist respecting the beliefs of religious people is no different than a Jewish person respecting a Catholic's views. Remember that their views cannot be proved or disproved.
If someone attacks with their opinions, you have every right to defend your decision. Consider, however, whether it will help either of you to argue about your difference in belief. Consider whether either of you is actually going to change his or her stance on the subject

(1) EXAMINE YOUR CURRENT BELIEFS

No matter what you previously believed, if now deep down you find no belief in god, your transformation is already complete. There is no process or initiation for becoming an atheist (except possibly a "coming out" to others). If you can honestly think, "I don't believe there is a god/gods," you are already an atheist.

hopefulLandlord:
Someone who hates "god" is a misotheist, a misotheist is a theist

"Disobeying God" is one of the most stupid words ever cuz there's no proof the "god" an atheist is being accused of disobeying exists, by this logic Christians "disobey god" when they eat cow meat because the Hindu god is against it

Bro just chill and follow the thread you would soon know that u'r not an atheist.

I would be sharing eleven ways to become an atheist incase you have some doubt about the religion you are currently in like I myself.

So here one can simply ascertain that OTEMATUM is not an atheist he is just a confused fellow that create his own god in his delusional world and and use his imagination to write longest and meaningless epistle about the universe.

Atheism, in its broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of gods. This definition includes both those who assert that there are no gods, and those who make no claim about whether gods exist or not. Simply stated, anyone who does not say "I believe (a) god/gods exist," is, by definition, an atheist. Narrower and more common definitions, however, often only qualify those who assert there are no gods as atheists, labeling the others as agnostics or simply non-theists.

There is no single ideology that all atheists share, nor are there any institutionalized rituals or behaviors. There are certain individuals whose religious or spiritual beliefs some might describe as atheistic, though those holding such beliefs do not normally describe themselves as atheists.

Due to some contrary belief, primarily in heavily religious countries, being an atheist does not imply deliberately "disobeying God". Atheism is not a belief, but is only the absence thereof. Atheists are also sometimes accused of "hating God", which is impossible, since you can not hate something you do not believe exists. Atheism is not directly linked to evolution, nor the big bang theory. However, many atheists, primarily those who wish to study atheism and religion further, turn to science, hence gaining an interest in such theories.

stGabrielo:
Op I told you to stay inside,now you're posting rubbish, ok you'll meet me here

Wich 1 b dis afonja woman wey u kom her pic here na
Must b on som kind of ritual coz of daT calabash on her right hand

SATANeye:
guys stop fkcking in the dark o.....its not advisable

Shey d gel na mamiwater ni

Ano undastnd

So dis guy still alive on NL threads

FP straight ahead

Okay I wee sit here and wait for d girls da wud hit dis thread

Omo dis gel go kee pesin o

Why is it dat u guys wee be reporting already post

Evaberry:
...

Oh wow

Christians are at it again

they have divided it into two

mature and immature Christian indeed

But even 'the' Jesus didn't have all these qualities

immature Christians be proud of yourselves

Meaning u'r a artheis

I have som1 lyk dat presently

Lemme give u d trick am usin:

If ur preeek have totally erect
don't bother ursef to go down
just bend ur preeek just like
dat stick is bending at d morta
so u will be hitting her on d sides
aswear she go cry trust me

Funny though check dis out

Wait bro u mean u kut ur own preeek

Coded17:
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All dis school goers wey dey talk like say if pesin no go school d pesin no fit be anything.

So upon d num of gels wey full ur school u no fit control any of em make u nak dis 9te na to kom NL kom fyn stranger abi

Even me wey no go school sef if I 1 fuuckk nw na to carri ma fone within an hour dem go reach

Hmmmmm weytin pesin 1 comment on dis kind news nw

Abeg make I kuku fine shia sidon and hear weytin ppl go talk

Buharison:
Only patriots can understand this message, enemies of state can never

Were ur papa dey

OtemAtum:
same way nobody knows Faulkin(Yeshua) outside Yacob(Israel) until more than three hundred years after his death in Sodom-Egypt. Same way nobody in Nigeria knows Eusebius and his fictitious hero(Jesus Christ your lord) until in the 19th centuries, like say 1800 years after Eusebius the liar have died.

Hahahaha! See dis man Jesus Christ wey dem don know even b4 im kom to d world

OtemAtum:
If Atum sent me to the world, does it mean I must appear to all the world physically to share my message? Does it mean I must be the one to publish the HISTORY OF TRUTH given to me?

Or you chose to be ignorant that Faulkin(Yeshua) of the Neanderthal period didn't go physically round the world when he came to make Yahweh his god known. Maybe you chose to be ignorant not to know that Eusebius of our homo sapiens world didn't come to Nigeria or any part of Africa to make fictitious Jesus known, yet the words he edited and added many lies to(the bible) did go round the world with time.
Haven't you heard me say that I AM FOR THE FUTURE AND NOT FOR THE PRESENT TIME? I AM HERE TO LAY THE FOUNDATION TO THE TRUTH AND NO EVIL OR LIE CAN OVERCOME ME. I AM OTEM OF TRUTH.

OK o I agree wit waareva u said buh wetin I know b say nobody no u and u msg outside NL

OtemAtum:
It isn't good for a scribe to be seeking for followers or popularity. It's not my interest. I write and leave.

For dis ur comment ehn am starting to take u as a joke.

Have u forgotten u said ur god sent u to the world not nairaland?

OK day neva brk judge is on there
way

Awee jex sit here sha

OP no lie 4 me na u b d gel?