I vote

Ivyy

MysticGal

MissGdope

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I vote

Ivyy
Mimzy
Refiner
Diasyluv
Mysticgal
MissGdope

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I vote for:

Ivyy
Diasyluv
MissGdope
Mimzy
Mysticgal

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Ditto

This is where MUFC meets their waterloo. It will be a sad result

Poor Man U

dhtml18:


You mean to ehm click here - quote this message to see how i wrote it.

Thanks. Seen. Learnt


Like this: click here

dhtml18:
Santa maria! Andela. . . . .tres important!

Baba na. I hail o!

Please, i have a little ish.

How do i change "a text url" like this www.nairaland.com to "click here"

NumberOne2:
Just curious since most Atheist don't believe in after life, where do they when they die?

They become manure and that's all

lastmessenger:

I don't believe that God is fighting for bokoharam. God in the past fought for the people of Israel because every other nation then were his enemy. So he fought for the people Israel...

You know, the reason you believe God is not fighting for boko haram is the same reason i think God didnot fight for Israel.

BTW, your bias and indoctrination are ridiculing what you are trying to put forth as a sound discussion. So, God now had enemies? wow! Religion never ceases to amaze me with the level of mental slavery and self-deprecation it offers!

MizMyColi:


LoL
I feel like rambling sir, hope I'm allowed.

He quoted someone as a reply, I did the same because I really don't know much on the topic.

When you have thoughts forming in your head and you lack the right words and presentation, it is okay, imo, to duly reference others.

You prolly think I'm living their dogmas when you say intellectual indepence and shaky.
That's what it might seem like to lotsa people too.

My emphasis was on:

As often as...

MizMyColi:

However, I see your angle on this clearly......
Thanks.

Okies.

MizMyColi:


LoL
That was good on paper and I share some of his sentiments.

Cool

However, consider this opposing opinion by Richard:




Having read that and this.

I have come to the conclusion that LIFE as we know it, is what we make it.
Yes, we're that powerful.

Hey MizMyColi, Good day.

As often as you rely on someone else (Richard &co) to make your point, the more your intellectual independence appears shaky. I do not want to pass it on as insulting, but that's what it reverberates to me. My opinion though!

lastmessenger:

Gog in his dealings with humans introduced perfection over a period of time.morality does not evolve in the eyes of God but for us us humans, He deals with us based on the level of our development( in terms of the acquisition of spiritual knowledge and wisdom).He may have allowed some things to happen in the past but that does not mean that He put a stamp of approval on them.

Do you believe that God(Yahweh) fought for the Israelites, the same way God(Allah) is fighting for Boko Haram?

mazaje:


Nope my PhD is in information systems. . . .

Cool.
When i grow up, i'd love to be like you

lastmessenger:

Please when you talk about slavery as you find it in the bible. Do you at all put in picture the timing of the events.slaves trade or slavery as at that time was a normal thing and that was just how the world goes.

Do you realise that you are indirectly or directly refuting your religion's concept of morality- absolute?

Are you saying that "morality" evolves?

musKeeto:
That spag theory has to be one of the most incisive and lethal post on this forum. Epic to the power infinity.

Never knew it had been discussed in this forum. I first came across it in another forum, not Nairaland.

Then, in this forum, i bumped into a thread where someone said that Mazaje has a PHD. Is his PHD in religion/theology?

"Mazaje", you could also answer, pls

musKeeto:


I agree. We are social beings, so in most cases, the interest of the group is put above that of the individual. Life has a lot of complexities indeed.

Also -- and I think mizmycoli would love to answer this -- if there is objective morality, are good actions good intrinsically or are they good because God says so?

The SPAG theory comes to mind

asalimpo:


wat actually suprises me is how your atheistic mind cannot explain and proffer solutions to the situation you speak of.
As an evolutionist you hav no business talkg of peace. because, morality is pointless. Life is pointless. Livg is aimless.
It's all just an endless meaningless cycle. Animals prey on others, to satisfy their cravgs, the violence is necessary to achieve the objective - quench hunger for one. One falls victim. The carnivore dies to become manure which nourishes the grass another victim will feed fat on to bcome prey for anoda carnivore .... Process brgins ad infinitum.
No moral element,no lastg peace,just survival.
Corporate greed is all survival.
Stealg is all survival.
By the theory of evolution and the atheistic perspectve,it is out of sync and hypocritcal to crave , higher states like morality,peace, fairness.

Get off your evolution-disgust-mantra-horse. Trash out your issue on evolution with them evolutionist atheists.

asalimpo:

And all God is sayg is tht the problem of humanity surpasses immediate quick answers like God is a genie in a lamp. Tht the fundamental problem tht put the world in its present state is sin and man's fallen nature.
What has God done about the main issue?
He fixed it. By sendg His Son to die for man's sins. With the main problem fixed the lesser problems are trivial.
Priority first. God provided the solution to man's problem millenias ago. God has done somthg. The ball is in man's court.

God never fixes any man's problem. man fixes man's problems. You know what god does? he sits on a throne, amused by all the miseries he's put man into and then promises more miseries for those who refuse to align with Israel/Arab.

As for signs and wonders- He does them too but the sceptic will still doubt.
You want God to tap u on the shoulder before you believe?

He doesn't necessarily need to come tap me on the shoulder. He should come and do real stuff, not giving dreams, poems and comic books to some 'set of people'. It was so easy for him to say "let there be light, and there was light" in the book of Genesis, why can't he speak "peace" into being?

You know what? the day god reveals itself, there would be no more atheism, no more religion... wouldn't it be great of god, huh?

BraveGuy:


You still don't get it!

How can you be blaming God for the evils of mankind?

Have you ever tried to check some of the genesis of these problems? Ever heard of the NWO? Which planet are you living on?
Maybe you can check this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/1955870/open-eyes-war

So, God created man to do all that is evil? He made them invent the Atomic Bomb that destroyed Nagasaki & Hiroshima? Why do we always look for excuses perpetrated by the evil of mankind and blame it on God? Why are we so proud and always try to deflect blame and responsibility?

According to your worldview, god initiated and anchors this whole charade. Yes, it's all a charade since the omniscient knew and scripted it all.

Why shouldn't we demand responsibility from him?

Besides, whats'up with all the stuff you wrote up there? are you saying man is the cause of: tsunamis; Malaria; cancer; hurricane; babies born with congenital deformities?
So much mishap for an omni-perfect god!

asalimpo:

this question veers into anoda dimension. The issue here is whether God exists or not?
A wicked God or a senile one is not non existing? Infact,it's a logical error to deny the existence of God because His character trait don't align with your ideals.

Bro, all i'm saying is: if your god is for real, let him come and do REAL things. I am not inconvertible

asalimpo:


if the experience was from a 40yr old,you wud disclaim it as a fabrication.
If from a 90 yr old you'd write it off as a case of senile delirium.
If from a former brain surgeon,
you'll call it hallucination.
Anything to wrap your minds in justifiable denial.

I mean, comm'on man! We have boko haram, ISIS, Al qaeda, et al grotesquely severing people, sending them to unwanted and tumultuous deaths, we have Cancer, HIV/AIDS, Malaria killing people in their millions, abject poverty ravaging Africa and the under-developed countries. It is reported that an average of 3,000,000 people die yearly from hunger and poverty related issues.

All your deity could do, was to pose for a selfie and reveal it to a Jewish prodigy in an extra-terrestrial chit-chat? Isn't Jonathan and our African presidents better?

Please, whenever you embark on your own chit-chat with the omni-omni daddy, do tell him to sit up, haba!
It seems he's clueless, let him start with Peace! Yes, peace. Let him stop all the wars and insurgencies we hear every now and then, atleast.

asalimpo:


a 4year old's account of his oob reveals truth he cud never have known except his experience were true.

And your response? Very scientifc and logcal!

Your god must be a comedian

The universe your deity claims to father is in a shambles and all he does is: share his selfie with a kid in an OOB rendezvous?

CrazyMan:


What I've observed in Nigeria is that if you question a "Man of God" you're evil and hell awaits you.

If you ask probing questions about unclear message in the bible, you're evil and hell awaits you.

If you try to enlighten people to be logical in their reasoning...you're evil and hell awaits you.

Little wonder how an uneducated MOG can frighten a university don (prof) into believing he would spend an eternity in hell simply because he refused to share a certain 10% of his income with them.

I was at a revival service in a church where a man who claimed he died and went to heaven was ministering. He (the man) went as far as telling us (the congregation) that makeup would lead you to hell, weavon would lead you to hell, trouser would lead you to hell and many more awful stories which I can't remember at the moment.

Then I asked myself. Why would a God who sent his one and only son to die for the redemption of mankind condemn his creation to an eternity in hell over a mere makeup or weavon or trouser...I felt like hancuffing the preacher and sending him to a mental asylum.

This is my problem with religion... What on earth can one do to earn him/her an endless time in torture? save for cases of murder, r.ape.
Not to talk of people that are outrightly condemned because they rejected some theological books that were sold to them, not because of any crime/evil committed.

Now, that is a pure definition of sadism.

cococandy:
you're funny.

oh, thanks for the compliment. I'm blushing#$

urheme:




Perhaps you can create one and i will be your disciple.

Lol.. We'll make sure that our names are encrypted as the first man and woman on earth, with our lovely kids.

3000yrs from now, our religion would have overtaken the contemporary ones.

urheme:





Not witstanding, you are welcome to the thread,

Perhaps somebody used your monikas before the invasion on the forum which resulted into data loss

Ok.

About the OP. Man created all the myths and tales of god and creation. You can create yours and when if you've got the armoury, enforce it on others and viola! Your religion dominates.

cococandy:
It's not really about finding a new belief.
I'm good with mine.
Just more about sampling other opinions
Thanks

Hey cocosisi! howfar with your humming of the "HU" sound?

Have you mastered the art yet? How about soul-flights?

urheme:


I don't believe in the holy books stories, religion in its entirety is a pit of delusion.

the story of adam and eve in the holy books is also not credible and if you ask me I will say:

there was no adam and eve
there was no garden
there was no tree
there was no satan
there was no discussion between God and man
the whole scenario was painted by man to deceive men.

religion cannot be a way to God

qstar a fellow nairalander on this thread once said he had a dream or vision where God created many people of different race: black, arabs, Chinese etc .
his version of creation looks more credible to me.

I hope I did answered your question.

Hey Ma'am! You are confusing me with somebody else. WTF??

I ain't got no dreams or vision about God.

Idrismusty97:
How is that an insult? The first thing you people ask an atheist/Agnostic is "How did the world came about?". Their response would be "A giant spaghetti monster created it". Just because you can't prove that a giant spaghetti monster exist doesn't means it exist. They are just explaining your "Creationist theory" with humor.

It's called sarcasm or parody.

Crocz:


Lolz...whatever you belief in, whatever your definition or perception of God, you'll realise there is only one creator in the end...and whatever way you see Him is by your own discretion and belief

Wouldn't you want to stop prevaricating like the "wise man"?

What makes you think there's only one creator? and which "one-creator" do you believe in? To what end?

Is it enough to just believe in any creator, any one at all?