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lastmessenger: Now my point is that you have been allowed to be irreligious and nobody is pointing a gun at your head to take your life.this is freedom and thats my emphasy.now its left for you to believe in hell or not.is not by force.do what you have to do with your life if only it will not be a harmful to the next fellow.this the choice that you may not be allowed in some countries whose main religion is islam.

Ok.

Dapo777: Can u define perfection in ur own terms to me?

The acceptance that the universe and all that happens in it are the way it's supposed to be.

lastmessenger: before you go,do you think forcing people to adhere to a particular religion is good? Pls be sincere

I am irreligious.
In a healthy society, we don't need religion to be civil. Civility is necessary for the growth and development of a society.

But, when you talk of Islam, also talk of Christianity. Do not be biased. You guys are more evangelical than the Muslims. Shouting at the top of your voices, binding and casting imaginary Devils.
Now, that's pathetic! When you tell them you are irreligious, they condemn you to "hell" and eternal torture by their deity.

fubbyy: Can someone please teach me how to BOLd some words when quoting someone

There are things in some posts I really need to comment on which I need to make a bold line

Seems you are using a mobile phone. If it's an android phone, then try this:

[b]the desired sentence[/gb]

Just remove the "g" before the last "b", then you're good to go.

^^^
I don't think i called you names. If so, point at it. Or you are accusing me falsely.

Anyway, have a nice day.

lastmessenger: ^^
I doubt if the above is true but even if it true,i am also aware that some of the missionaries were killed in the process of trying to preach and spread christainity. in christainity.you are left to give in to fear-factor on your own free will.christains do not points gun and tell you to convert.
well wether they preach hell or not,people are still left with the right to choose to obey the bible or not.in christainity nobody says u must obey or you cannot join another religion.

Why are you bickering on Islam? You are into your religion by virtue of locality and upbringing. The same way, majority of those who are Muslims inherited it. Do you think that by casting aspersions on their religion, it helps validate yours?

You should go and research more on your-imposed-religion. Christianity has a lot of historical issues. No religion is without such issues. "Google" is your friend.

Stop your religious bigotry! You're feeling so proud of an imported religion. hmmm. smh4u

Dapo777: How is it not a good question, didn't God confirmed it in the Bible that everything he made (including lucifer)is good?
Isn't it expected of a normal thinking person to ask,why there is evil after God has confirmed that EVERYTHING, NOT EXCLUDING LUCIFER is good,was God exergeratting when he said EVERYTHING IS GOOD!
As a normal thinking person,why do we have evil then,if every thing God created is good as confirmed by him in the Bible.

Think about it! This is common sense and an expected question.

Actually, everything is perfect. It is perfect that we live to die. It is perfect that there are good and bad people. It is perfect that there are no restrictions.

It is we- human beings that add emotionalism into the picture and all of a sudden, somethings become fiery and damn evil. Death is a very good thing the universe has to offer. The concept of duality- sin and righteousness, draws us back.

Dapo777: So it's only a God that can use his senses to know what is meaningful and what is senseless? Who created the doctors,ritualists and those people that are commiting evil,WHO CREATED THEM? PLEASE THINK FOR ONCE

There's only freewill, unrestricted freewill. We are the choice we make.

Human beings are the God and Devil you imagine.

efficiencie: Ma bro na GOD DAPO comment i go like see...but thanks all the same for yours...GOD DAPO I'm waiting o!

You are a joke! You need years of rehabilitation.
Sorry, they've got you in the matrix! Pele.

^^^

Christianity was forced down the throat of our ancestors. Sometimes, indirect compulsions were used. Like refusal of access to medical facilities, education, etc.

Rarely can a religion stand the test of time if they don't use the fear-factor or moral suasion.

Why is Christianity still preaching "hell"?

deols: Where is amanfrommars??

He has deactivated his account.

Why is it that all Christians' miracles do have medical/scientific explanation?

larrymoore: If u serve God, the creator, only to realise He doesn't exist, u ve loose nothing. But the reverse would be regreatable.

This is a great problem. Belief in God, alone, is not enough. You have to find the right God.

There are over a 1000 Gods, Heavens and Hells.

cool

@Frosbel, the problem with your sermon is "love".

Love has a subjective meaning. It is also a relative emotion.
If we are to just love our neighbours as ourselves, what of those that do not love themselves?
Some people, deeply hate God, because of reasons best known to them.

This is where the society comes into play. Or do you think a mere sermon is enough?

mascot87: Dude, the best way to sell your soul is to commit suicide o. Just go to Lagos Ibadan express way & immediately u see an oncoming truck loaded with petrol, just run across the road & wait for d truck to hit u. in the process, the truck may lose control & fall with all d fuel spilling on d road & u could be lucky that it will catch fire them gbam both your flesh & soul born immediately thus your soul is sold. Wishing u all d best & I am waiting for your testimony

hahaha... This guy got me laughing out loud

JESUSchoice: hmmm, unbelievable,...thanks 4 d comment sha!

If you want to be irresponsible, that's your kettle of fish. You don't need the camouflage of atheism to do that, you could still do so even as a theist.

But, when you decide to grow wild, nature is wholly endowed with means of curtailing such wildness. Either the judicial system hands you a life sentence or the health sector diagnoses you with a terminal disease.

krazydave: Lolz...
@qstar everything deserves the start of a new thread shebi?? Why not air your views in here...

According to Nairaland's rules, yes, a new thread. Besides, the topic of this thread is more like that of a lament, doesn't quite encourage such discourse.

I can stick my life that deep in your heart, your aware of the truth that is, but you choose to ignore it just 'cos of something that might have occured in the past.

Could you please stop projecting. I attribute whatever happens in my life to 3 things:
1. Efforts of people around me or involved in my life.
2. My own effort.
3. The uncontrollable element-- Luck.

If i wanted to believe in a deity, i would be the one with the most reasons. But, then, i realised that my success always implies defeat to someone else. It's a pity actually, but no god needed. If a god was involved everybody should either all be happy or all sad.

If there's a God, he surely doesn't interfere with the activities of the inhabitants of the universe.

Liveair: Yes, people have spoken of their NEAR DEATH experiences. It turns out that those who are non xtians said they saw themselves in a peaceful, serene place with loved ones. Those who were xtians either saw a terrible place of torture or a place of peace and tranquility. This means that the MIND is very Powerful!

You are a bunch of knowledge.
E'en though i would have still loved the OP to start the thread and teach us how His deity created this universe.

krazydave: well atleast my religion gives me a reasonable explanation......what does ur belief says?

That would derail the topic of this thread. Start another thread, let's xray the "reasonable explanation" your religion has to offer.
Cheers!

Arcsniper: lol .
So to you atheism is all about that @ bold.
And that's who atheist are

That guy is sick! or just say, he's such a kid.

krazydave: @ Liveair, apatheist and other athiests......

Just what exactly are you tying to prove?... That the universe mysteriously formed itself, or that your the final stage of a rats/monkeys metamorphosis

'Cos your not dead to experience the other side or 'cos you haven't caught a glimpse of it doesn't mean it's not there.

Remeber, just 'cos a man is blind does not end the existence of activities around him.....

I'm not trying to convert you in any way(thou i wish i could) but if you've made your choice, make sure it's right both in your eyes and heart.....
#Time_Is_running_Out!!

If you claim to know how the universe "began", start a thread on it. It will be a nice discourse!

BrvGuy: You are LYING - again?
See the TRUTH below:

Ok. If in the next 24hrs, you are unbanned, then i said the truth. But, if your ban lingers more than that, then you can ascribe it to the "evil MODs", and "evil owner".

BrvGuy: Ok, so why can't I post with my normal username?
Do you think it is cool to be using another username on the same website?

If it was antispambot, it should have identified my IP address, so I shouldn't have been able to post with ANY username for that matter. No, you're wrong.

Lemme feed your bias more, this ban must be spiritual.

This is how the Christian Devil works. He revels in ignorance.

The antispambot does not ban your IP. It simply bans a specific handle for a period of time, usually not more than 24hrs.

BrvGuy: The energy for joy would be spent exploring a new life in a New Heaven and Earth.

Mr. Man, nobody banned you.
Christians and their conspiracy theories sef.
The antispambot should be responsible.

JESUSchoice: My name is Idorenyin Umoh,am d only son of ma parents,a boy of 17yrs of age,a jambite, i stay with my step uncle who is a pastor in River state, he is married with 3kids and a maid 2 take care of dem. I came 2 live with dem in 20

OP. You are silly if you think being an atheist is the shortcut to riches. You are a dullard, a coward and an opportunist.
You talk of Satan, Devil and co., but you want to discard God. Are you insane?

Atheism comes with maturity. Atheism doesn't make you any special or different from others. The same laws of nature applies to all. If you want good things to happen, then you simply do good. If you want to pass your exams, you have to work hard, simple. No shortcut.

We- atheists, agnostics, do not believe in any Devil/Satan. They are all excuse-channel for the cowardly who apportions blame and declines his responsibilities.

Start with taking a solemn resolution to work hard, be optimistic and then accept any outcome

Maybe abstinence is also a s*x position!

italo: It's just the devil using men.

He makes them want to desecrate anything that is of God.

And the omnipotent God sits on the fence, can't even defend His alleged territory.
Only sends polemics like you to defend his failure all over Nairaland.
Oh! What an omnipotent God we have!

cococandy: What is free will to you?
And how do define the will of God?

Kay17 described it here.

Kay17: Freewill places the individual on the driver's seat and he/she steers her life into whatever direction he/she desires, while God's Plan is the direct opposite. God is in charge and not the individual. So one must make way for the other.

victorels: Please Relax.

Love I said not war. Don't mistook Israel for Christianity and don't mistook sacrifice for foolishness.

I am more relaxed than you can imagine. I was not talking of war. I don't like being the grammar-error detective, but please help yourself.

Why would you desire to sacrifice yourself fo no benefit. Every body lives their lives the way they understand it including your grand father you mentioned (Trying to be funny).
Do you think they make their decisions in sentiment? They are responsible for their choice of life. If they are in hell as you imagined, they will hope that you will not come their and besides, you cannot tell whip of the H word they are.
I can see your heart for those that are suffering, but your love means nothing when you don't love yourself. Help yourself then you will find strenght to help others.

According to your Scripture, my grandpa is in hell 'cos he didn't have the chance of believing the imported-Jesus. Like i said before, you care only about yourself, that is plain selfishness.
Did we Africans ever beg God to kill His son? We have always survived.

I wish you Joy and Peace today.

I already have those. Keep your wishes for the poor children beset with HIV, kwashiorkor and co. around your neighbourhood.

victorels: Have you ever been loved. If no, then that is the reason the universe is imperfect.
Find yourself among the people that love you, then you will have feel of what a perfect universe is all about. Go is love. Unless you love Him, it might be difficult to be loved with real love.

Have you ever thought before? If not, that is the reason the universe is perfect to you. Or, you're simply egocentric.
Your religion preaches condemnation to eternal torture for 70% of the world and you call that "love"?
Well, if you may know, that's one of the reasons i abjured. I can not live in Heaven while my grandpa burns in Hell and some other family members, probably. I'd rather join them in Hell.

krazydave: so, your trying to tell me that you always been an Atheist?..... From the very first day you were given birth too??
Something must have triggered your unbelif...... Challenge me if i'm wrong!

Every child is born an atheist. Theism is taught.