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taiwoawoniyi: Prayer doesn't necessarily mean shouting down the roof for God to hear. Its simply a two-way conversation. Just like a man talks to his friend. Hope you get my point

Isn't prayer a one-way communication? god never talks back.

That's the inanity one has to undergo in order to be religious.

zeemoore: This is why I stay off this section

Mr Kay, I hope you hold on to whatever you feel is the right way to train up a child
Cuss, spank, yell, tie him to an ant's nest so he'd remember the pains and the pains will in turn make him a better man
Do whatever you like with your child
Afterall, the child is yours and not someone else'
I can only imagine the "sweet memories" he'll have of his childhood when he grows up

Fantasy much!!

Her Lordship, Madam! In which section is your opinion binding and accepted by all? Advanced myopia or delusions?

We are here to share ideas and to think you'd get no counter-opinions...
Did i say "fantasy"?

A quote from the Bible:

Jeremaih 42:10
For I [God] repent me of the evil that I have done unto you.

Eberex: Answer the damn question, unless you were a dropout ofcourse

Whatever...

Eberex: Qstar were you a science oriented student or art?

I fail to get the import of your interrogations.

striktlymi: Hmmm...

I think you are closer to Deism than Agnostics.

Actually, i do not mind the label.

Having adversaries has little or nothing to do with how powerful one is. You mentioned 'nature'. Take that as an example. Can you say nature, despite its power, doesn't have adversaries? One of nature's greatest adversary is man.

From my current standpoint, you do not understand how silly the Satan concept is. It's multifarious.

striktlymi: May be you are right that you aint the best person to engage in this conversation but for one who claims to be Agnostic you have some very strong 'Atheistic beliefs'.

I could accept the idea of a creator, who is all encompassing, and possess the duality found in nature. But the other minion- Satan, hell no. I can't understand why an almighty creator would have adversaries.

Concerning the Satan-irresponsibility-outlet, that is not tenable to me. lailai. You'd rather say "you did it, though you erred".

Maybe, you'd need a Christian perspective to this. In my current disposition, i may not be good at it.

striktlymi: If indeed Satan is to blame for any wrong done then it would give credence to the doctrine: " Once saved, Always saved " where some have this falls notion that they cannot sin even when they do wrong.

If indeed Satan is not to blame, then his existence becomes redundant to Christians and somehow, even the existence of the Christian God. For, what purpose is the "devil"?

"an escape-outlet for its believers, a strategy, an excuse for failure and unfortunate happenings"
E'en though it saps them their maturity. The average Christian must use the Satan-strategy, else, you may be preaching heresy.

alexleo: Bro there is no fear.

There is nothing wrong in telling someone that if he touches a live high tension wire he will be shocked to death.

There is nothing wrong in warning someone about danger that is ahead.

Even on the express road you ll see warning signs such as- 'danger ahead'. Nothing wrong about it bro. Its the same thing that we are doing.

Well, you and your God can have my corpse, four months after my death.

And do roast it, with the unquenchable fire(hell), as it pleases you guys.

@alexleo

The way you and someother Christians on this board go about exposing your avalanche of fear, as regards "the hell-doctrine/eternal damnation", makes one wonder the actual veracity of your morality.

Similar to me being faithful to my partner because i fear that Santa would flog me if i didn't.

alexleo: Of course non of us can change anything concerning whether God exists or not. The more reason why you should be careful because if at the end of the day when you die you discover that he truly exists and you are faced with his eternal damnation, its not gonna be funny you know.

Thank goodness that you're beginning to consider the possibility of god's non-existence. Your threat is puerile. Your God executing eternal damnation on me because i have not seen any evidence for God? Say what? It's not even a threat for an adult.

The above does not represent the issue we are discussing.

The above, sure, do represent the issue, unless of course you don't want to indulge. I'll let it pass.

The issue here is that God has set two ways before us.

^^^ This, here, is a similar alternative to the question. But, nevermind.

Striktlymi, i've known you as an intelligent Christian on this forum. I wonder what you want to achieve with this topic of yours, even as a Christian. This might just be your verge into apostasy.

Personally, albeit an agnostic, i do know that there's no Satan no where, only diverse opinions. As someone tolerant (i observed), i also feel that you should have come to terms with the subjectivity in this world. If an event occurs, and there happen to be eight people present, those eight people will give 8 different versions of how it happened, even in honesty.

Do not get me wrong. I am not trying to say that there is no evil, no. But, evil exists in the realm of perception.
To say that there were/are stipulated formulae/rules (and consequential rewards), will be denying reality. As evidenced by reality, "what works for Mr A, most likely may not work for Mr B."

Eberex: Qsta what do you believe in?

Typical Nigerian, using a question to answer a question. hmmm.

For your question: I believe in me

alexleo: Your opinion cannot change anything about God bro.

Neither can your opinion change anything bro. God's probable non-existence cannot be influenced by your assertions.

I pray you don't realize your error late.

Hope you realise yours too.

God does not influence our choices except you ask him as a believer to guide you in your choices. Even at that, he wont still force you to do what he is saying. The choice still remains yours.

Your kind of Christianity is hard to find. Is this what all Christians believe? When you embark on a task and fail, who do you blame?

Quick question... let me understand your stance first

If you were given three objects, "X", "Y" and "Z" to choose from, what would be God's bearing on that?

a) God doesn't interfere. ( )

b) There's no God involved. ( )

c) God knows the object you are gonna choose. ( )

Eberex: What influence are you referring to?

The decisions you take.

#Think_slowly#speak_frankly

alexleo: Are you created a robot? No. You make choices or dont you? For your eternal destiny you have two options- To be with the almighty God in heaven or to be tormented with satan in the lake of fire. Choose God for your own good.

You do know the implication of what you are saying, right?

As an unbeliever, i know i am responsible for my own choices, no god, no devil.

But, you, a beiever in God, ain't God supposed to influence your choice(s) in life?

alexleo: Everything about the mission of Christ was summarised in John 3:16.

"For God so loved the world that he gave his only beggoten son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM WILL NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE".

Its your choice that determines.

I don't get the bolded... You mean, we own our "choices"? What of the almighty god and his bro- Lucifer?

FrancisTony: FYI, I am a Christian and it goes to show bible contradicts itself.

The bible does not only contradict itself, it contradicts common-sense

mrtnt: Pls help. A 10-yr old girl stays wt me for abt 5 months now & is fond of having regular terrible dreams like seeing self coming out of tree, sitting on top of a tree, being pursued by snakes, hunted by half-bodied beings, being taken by birds 2 unknown destinations 4 meetings she wouldn't be allowed 2 make input, etc.

In addition 2 these, in d middle of d nite, u'll see her suddenly awake out of sleep moving frm living room 2 kitchen or elsewhere 'unconsciously' & later return 2 sleep. When asked if she knows she does all these during her sleep, she says no.

I can't really notice any other 'physical' signs of witchcraft apart frm d fact dat she always sleeps wt her leg crossed: no matter hw u try 2 separate it, afta a few minutes d leg is crossed again.

Not so comfortable abt dis, I asked my wife 2 let us send her parking bt she's always not cooperating: basing it on d fact dat she (my wife) needs assistance at home 4 d chores.

I don't really want 2 b over-assuming. Pls could these dreams b enough indications dat dis girl is possessed of witchcraft or she is just a prospective member or just being witch-hunted?

What are d implications of continue living wt dis girl?

Serious, matured & candid advice pls.

Whats'up man? How you dey?

Hope she has outgrown the weird behaviour.
Wish you well in the long run

cococandy: I told you to expect more

The guy seems pretty jobless

cococandy: Those pictures look like your bedroom

And to top it off you have several accounts(monikers) trying to pass off as different people who believe your horseshi1t.

You can say that again...

(1) johnokonkwo
(2) JamalUganda22
(3) Truthseekers
(4) CanDerTansoy
(5) Friendlyone
(6) AkamaPolright
(7) ebonyprince
( VoidWhenRead
(9) WalrusRider

BananaBender: Why??

We (Nigerians) are very very religious. Religions thrive on segregation and prejudice, as indoctrinated.

You just forgive/bear with them.

BananaBender: I know, right??

I'm shocked...........I never knew there were people that had so much hatred for atheism that the mere fact of being associated with it gets them jittery.

Nigerians are, mostly, a conservatively judgmental set of people, hypocritically sanctimonious.

Sometimes, you don't really blame them.

Is atheism "evil"? why the stigma?

Atheism isn't "denial" per se, atheism is a disbelief in god(s).

alexleo: ok. Hope say you no go change this your stand when you see say the atheists no dey come and time dey go.

Lol

wealthinfos: how do u wono corelate this to the question raised in the subject matter?

It relates to what happens after-death.... decay and recycling into the ecosystem.

The body is subsequently fed on by maggots, if buried. If cremated, it turns to ashes.

wealthinfos: Does not make sense. Add some clarity

A simple question as that... When you leave a corpse on the ground without preservatives, what happens subsequently to it(the corpse)?

wealthinfos: what are u talking about?

There lies the answer to your OP.

finofaya: God is free to do as he pleases. You may not like how he acts, but that doesn't make him any less real.

He is one weird fellow tho.

Dude, are you into programming? as in, do you programme?

wealthinfos: Heheheheh, u speak in riddles bro. How do u mean 'the hellfire thing is as good as the santaclause'??

What happens to a corpse(a dead person) if you leave it on the surface of the earth for about six months?

Prayer is nothing but an expressed-wish to an imaginary deity.