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MaxInDHouse:
You need to get this straight!

Sin doesn't stop any JW from being my brother in Christ rather it's rebellion against the Governing Body just as the same thing makes the Pharisees Satan's children.

Note that Pharisees don't commit such sin in fact they takes decisive actions against anyone who commits sin whether the person feels remorseful or not is none of their business but Jesus loves sinners as long as the sinner is willing to repent Jesus is willing to accept him or her as brothers and sisters.

A Pharisee said about Jesus:

“If this man were really a prophet, he would know who and what kind of woman it is who is touching him, that she is a sinner." Luke 7:39

But is it that Jesus didn't know who are those committing sin among his followers?

NO nah! Jesus knows that it's takes time for some to heal from the refining process while others heal fast so sin does not stop anyone from being Jesus' brother in the faith rather it's rebellion against God's arrangement.

Do you know that God chose Christ to lead His worshipers to salvation? Matthew 17:5

Do you know that Christ chose a small group to continue leading his disciples? Matthew 24:45

Do you recognize the group Jesus is using to feed his disciples spiritually in our time? Matthew 25:40, 46

Are you obedient to this group leading God's people today? Hebrews 13:7, 17

We are all born in sin {Psalms 51:5} and sin has spread to all of us {Romans 3:23; 5:12} the healing process in ongoing in God's organization today so it's rebellion against this organization that matters not the weakness of my brothers and sisters who have come to wash their robes in the blood of the lamb. Revelations 7:14

When anyone is washing his dirty clothes pointing out dirts in the cloth is unreasonable until the person stops washing so as long as the individual continues to associate with God's people and taking instructions from the Governing Body chosen to lead God's people he or she remains my brother and sister in Christ.

Jesus never condemn any sinner rather it's rebellious ones Jesus condemns!

1) So we agree with the posters below:
JW worship the Governing Body (GB) of 11 men in Warwick, New York, U.S.A., NOT God!
Their God is the JW organization.

2) So we agree, conduct does not stop someone from being your brother. Yet you were horrified when I said a terrorist can be my brother. So you now see I was right

3) You base forgiving your brother on his willingness to change. Christ had no such basis. You are to simply continuously forgive your brother

4) Jesus called Pharisees "sons of Satan" for their CONDUCT and because he knew they were looking for a way to kill him - a way to heartlessly cut down an innocent young man of 33 in the prime of life!

5) Here are some of the conducts for which Christ called Pharisees "sons of Satan". (If you're honest with yourself you'd admit that the Governing Body are like the Pharisees of today):

Matthew 23:
25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

MaxInDHouse:
Pastor QuinQ has been silenced!

Well for the benefit of interested followers of this thread all humans are NEIGHBORS because one way or another we get to see and help ourselves despite our differences but when talking about BROTHERS that means we must be related somehow.

We can be related by birth so we call such a person "BROTHER" Jesus is not moved by such relationship.

We can also be related by business so we call our colleagues "BROTHERS" this also doesn't move Jesus.

Lastly we can be related by beliefs Jesus so much appreciated this that he called all those who share his thoughts "BROTHERS" while his own mother and blood brothers were waiting for him! Matthew 12:46-50

So the same applies to his real disciples today (Jehovah's Witnesses) throughout the world people know this group for the ONE LOVE we share {John 13:34-35} no matter where the person comes from as long as he or she gets baptized as one of Jehovah's Witnesses he or she automatically becomes a member of this global family.

So while everyone around us is a neighbor even though there are well meaning neighbors as well as unkind neighbors anyone with whom we share the same beliefs is our brother, sister, mother, father and family in general! Matthew 12:46-50 compare to Matthew 19:27-29

Yeah, silenced by anti-spam bot😆
(It is really dealing with me. So you folks please understand, that's why I reply several posts with one post)

It is actually the other way round.
From parable of good Samaritan we learn that neighbor is dependent on conduct - who treats you well is your neighbor. Brother on the other hand, no matter how many times he maltreats you he stays your brother until 70 ×7 times!
Mention one place in the Bible where Jesus said no one is YOUR brother except a fellow believer.
(And don't say Mathew 12, because there Christ was talking of HIS own mother and brothers not yours. While in good Samaritan he was talking about YOUR neighbor)

MaxInDHouse:
First of all let's get this straight:

You are not my brother rather you are one of my countless neighbors!

Secondly you keep saying it's the GB that is talking yet i've been quoting Jesus word for word while you can't quote neither emphasize on what Jesus taught.

Thirdly i asked you two questions and i will love to get answers from you.

Are terrorists your brothers?
Are they your neighbors?

Just YES or NO response will do!

YES!!! Of course terrorists are my brothers - in the broad sense that all of humanity are my brothers. Same way all those JW child molesters are your brothers too. Brother is NOT determined by conduct. A JW stays your brother even if they moonlight as terrorists. Christ never said if your brother does bad he stops being your brother. Even if he's in the habit of doing it, you're to keep forgiving him up to 70 times 7 times!
GB made brotherhood dependent on being a Jehovah's Witness for their own cultish self-interest

MaxInDHouse:
Now it's obvious you don't believe Jesus of the Bible because according to Bible Jesus both Mary and his brothers Jesus shunned when someone called his attention expecting him to acknowledge them.

There Jesus confirmed that only his fellow believers are his spiritual family. Matthew 12:46-50

I believe Jesus, his apostles and their modern day counterpart Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses on that note!

See? You can only cite that Mathew 12 that I said does not apply to YOU!
Jesus was talking about HIMSELF - his disciples listening to his words were his mother and brothers. About you, he said you should hate your mother and father if you wish to follow him. He didn't say they'd stop being your mother and father or that your blood brother would stop being your brother!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ there is nothing to say again since you outrightly rejected Jesus' teaching on this matter.

Jesus called Pharisees who are Jews as in Jacob's descendants "children of Satan" {John 8:44} because they have the same attitude like that of Satan.

Are they Jesus' neighbors?

YES!

But are they his brothers?

NO!

So you can call Boko Haram your brothers o but never ever think you are my brother my only brothers are JWs all others are my neighbors!

Funny thing is that Jesus was explicitly asked "who is my neighbor" in Luke 10 and he clearly defined it with a parable. There is no way that definition includes those Pharisees. How does Pharisees looking for a way to kill you equate a Samaritan who saved your life??
Luke 10:
36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”
So how does that include Pharisees trying to kill him?

All these JW's listed below who perpetrated Child sexual abuse are also "children of Satan". Did that cause them to stop being your brothers as members of JW.
Besides, Christ never said if your brother becomes devilish or turns rogue he stops being your brother or you shun him. He infact said you should forgive him and keep forgiving him!

So, from all that, we gleen that your neighbor is anyone who has been kind to you, while your brother can be anyone, especially people in a given demography with you!

Kobojunkie:
Simply show where in Scripture YHWH of Israel or Jesus Christ of Israel, the ones who made a Covenant with Israel, instructed that the Levites not be counted among the tribes of Israel as His people. Resist the urge to post these mental farts of yours my way as I have no use for them.

Oh you can definitely count Levi as one of the tribes. In that case you'd have 13 tribes not 12.
it'd only be 12 if you count Ephraim and Manasseh as one tribe (which they are not) because thay both came from Joseph

MaxInDHouse:
Are members of Terrorist groups your BROTHERS in Christ?
But are they your NEIGHBORS?

Now listen and learn!

Loving neighbors as myself means trying as much as possible to rescue a person who has been robbed either physically or spiritually just as i would love to be rescued if i find myself in such situation. Luke 10:29-37

But loving just as Jesus loves far exceeds that it involves readiness to lay down my life for someone who share the same beliefs with me that's why Jesus called it a NEW COMMANDMENT! John 13:34-35

So the love found in the old testament which Jesus expatiated for the Pharisees is for NEIGHBORS but the love for fellow believers totally differs that's what makes me and such a person BROTHERS! John 15:12-13

Do you get it now?

You are just regurgitating JW Governing Body. Christ never told you to kill yourself for your brother. He didn't different between neighbor and brother. Everything he said you'd do for your brother you should also do for your neighbor.
He gave a new commandment for all, not just brother. GB lied to you. Commandment in OT was an eye for an eye. Jesus Christ is turn the other cheek, and forgive 700 times 7 times, and never say "raca!". All equally pertain to neighbor and brother. He said love your brother, exactly same way he said love your neighbor. Love is love. He didn't calibrate or told you to love neighbor less.
Besides, all people in a group call themselves brothers - that's in the sense Christ used it. All people in a fighting unit are brothers, all black people are brothers, etc. So in the broader sense all humanity are brothers.
GB is only using that to make sure you have no one outside JW and therefore extremely difficult to leave.

Do you now understand my brother?

gulfer:
Nothing wey Nigeria Police nor fit do, sharply them don remix the tape of arrest...Anyway, may all evildoers suffer similar fate but make Nigerian Police authority try dey relay information exactly as it happened

No mind Nigeria Police. Simply incapable of telling the truth - even when they know everyone already knows the truth

MaxInDHouse:
You don't understand!

Jesus is saying only his fellow believers are his spiritual family and that is what i'm telling you too!

Nope. You specifically said Jehovah's Witnesses.

Besides, anybody you love as much as you love yourself (which is how much we must love our neighbor) is not less than a brother

Kobojunkie:
. Religion is a political tool for the sole purpose of capturing a power base by way of religious propaganda and traditions. Christianity was created as a political movement to shore up power and control for men, all of them non-Israelites, whom you all regard as your church fathers. They used religion to rather for themselves control over a portion of the masses, including the elites, and this strategic play worked out well in the end, as they eventually toppled and consumed the political scene in the Roman Empire for themselves.

Pure nonsense. Early Christians (by this we mean the apostles and their converts and the early churches) did not see "Religion as a political tool for the sole purpose of capturing a power base by way of religious propaganda and traditions.". They were totally focused on the hereafter and imminent return of Christ. They didn't participate in politics and avoided anything to do with the State.

This is a big part of why Herod (an Edomite and Arab that Rome appointed to rule Judea), persecuted the Christians:
Acts 12:
1 It was about this time that King Herod arrested some who belonged to the church, intending to persecute them. 2 He had James, the brother of John, put to death with the sword.

MaxInDHouse:
See another blunder again!

Guy, everyone is not my BROTHER rather everyone is my NEIGHBOR.

I told you people to humbly learn from Jehovah's Witnesses but empty pride won't allow you.

Jesus clearly distinguish between the two. All living humans are my NEIGHBORS to whom i must show love but only JWs are my BROTHERS.

In the illustration Jesus explained that it's to everyone we must try to be nice to prove ourselves as NEIGHBORS but only our fellow believers who are related to us in the faith that are our spiritual family. Matthew 12:46-50

Pharisees are humans and Jews too but did Jesus accepted them as his brothers?

NO!

WHY?

Because spiritually speaking Satan is their father {John 8:44} whereas Jesus is only related to those who share the same beliefs with him so to Jesus only these ones are his brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers and relatives in general not just everyone. In fact it's after Jesus' mother (Mary) became a believer that Jesus introduced her to John as one of their spiritual family {John 19:26-27} but before them Jesus didn't accept Mary as one of his spiritual family {Matthew 12:48} because Mary didn't believe in him at a point in time in fact herself and her other children thought Jesus has gone mad! Mark 3:21

So my NEIGHBORS are Muslims, Atheists, Agnostics, Buddhists, Traditionalists, Freethinkers, Smokers, Prostitutes, Hired Killers Robbers as in anyone living i love all as i would love myself but when talking about my BROTHERS for whom i should be ready to lay down my life just as Jesus did only Jehovah's Witnesses fit in these are the ones with whom i share the same beliefs! John 13:34-35

Do you understand now?

Not true. Jesus never said his brothers were Jehovah's Witnesses. Here's what he said about who was his brother

Matthew 12:48
He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to HIS DISCIPLES, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers."

broIZ:
You keep trying to redefine the meaning of tribe based on land allotment. This was not a criteria in the bible. The bible explicitly, clearly stated all the 12 tribes of Israel (the tribes are his son) and the bible includes Levi as part.

oh I think I get what you are saying now. Practically it was 13 tribes because of Joseph' son (Ephraim and Manasseh). But because the Levites were not given any land was what made them as the 'extra' tribe since you cannot point to their land.

Voila!
Now you get it. Kobojunkie refuses to get it till tomorrow!
There were ten lost tribes and two not-lost tribes.
There were Levites in both groups.
Here's the map below - as you can see, no Levi.
By the way, "lost" doesn't mean they disappeared from the face of the earth. "Lost" means they disappeared as a distinct people - they disappeared from history.

Example, as you can see from the map, Simeon is surrounded by the tribe of Judah. While not lost in the sense of being exiled by the Assyrians in 721 BCE like the other 9 tribes, Simeon became effectively lost due to its absorption into Judah, unlike Benjamin.

Maximus692:
You are the one who mentioned me in a thread that i wasn't interested in posting anything:


Now it's clear you missed out because to Jesus and Jehovah's Witnesses everyone as long as such a person lives is our neighbor!

But since you said it's not everyone that is your neighbor can you tell me who is not your neighbor on this planet today?

Of course you should love everyone because every human being is your brother.
But I'm just focusing on the parable...
After Jesus finished the parable of the good Samaritan and asked them who was the robbed man's neighbor, they didn't answer "everyone"

thesicilian:
Did you just wake up from a 24hr slumber? We're way past this!

It's just annoying. I don't care how authentic anything looks, some people must say it is content. Even now, I'm sure there are people still saying it is content!

Maximus692:
After seeing your blunders you still want to argue blindly!

The OP is talking about NEIGHBORS.

So do you agree that everyone around you irrespective of their beliefs is your neighbor?

Well, you the one who left neighbor and went to brother just to state your GB authorized view.

Jesus Christ gave example of who is your neighbor because they asked him directly.
He didn't say everyone

thesicilian:
No name.
No pictures of the burning house.
No pictures of the person being beaten.
There should be a division of the police to handle bloggers like these

Everything is content and bloggers to you people.
You saw the video. Which blogger will mobilize all those authentic-sounding people for content??

Kobojunkie:
This(and other related videos from the same channel) is designed for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3BxKUCQuzA?si=UTebJZtP4W7Ig5X4
Also, consider the following....
https://youtu.be/NBjyMqfU?si=AYM-FLt7wFe0E9dR

😅Funny but quite insightful.
Not bad

Tendd:
Like investing on things that brings returns like real estate, stock market,funds, treasury bills etc.
This is if you win .Good luck!

How about things like make you happy - like pursuit of loose women and getting high

Factcheck0001:
Imagine u introduce yourself as a Nigerian outside n the person ask u if u can tell them about the African prince

You mean Nigerian Prince. It is called the Nigerian Prince scam

Tendd:
It's still very rare.Hopefully,you win big some day but spend it wisely.

Define wisely

Tendd:
She meant she does not know anyone personally, meaning it difficult to win lottery.Do you know anyone close to you that won a lottery?

Yes I do: me!
It wasn't much and I spent it all playing more numbers

Jude254:
old age is inevitable

For the lucky
(Those lucky enough to live till then)

Samantha125:
So what? Am I now supposed to know them?🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️

Like I said, it's easier to give out money you didn't work hard for.

Well, now you know them. Or at least know of them.
Actually it is more like it's easier to SPEND money you didn't work for. Some people will not give you shishi even if they won a billion

IAM4BAT4plus4:
CORRECT MEN!
I LOVE PMB
I LOVE PBAT
They are both greater than any flat headed personalities dead or alive

How about PO? Are they greater than PO

He has no choice
That's the least he can do after trying to prevent him from becoming president

Samantha125:
It's easier to give out money you didn't work hard for and I don't know anyone who has ever won a lottery before.

Here are some people who won the lottery

Pootle:
you thing the wreched old men and women wish so for themselves no, life jus happen to them, working hard now to secure a better future is no guarantee

From the outside they LOOK that way but most important part of life happens inside. Notice how people spend so much on drugs and alcohol to feel a certain way. Suppose an old person has come to point where they feel that way naturally, though looking wretched from outside?