Christianity Etc › Re: Six_questions_about_god_and_hell by QuinQQ(f): 3:16pm On Sep 15 |
PCHC: I intend for my video/writing to be faithful and truthful without guile.
As for the case study for example, let's establish these three facts:
{1}. Fact One: Adam had knowledge of God, as well as knowledge of good and evil though at lower degree, even before he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Adam had conscience that draws the line between good and evil. We are talking of a man who was Ruler of the whole world, including all birds that moves in the open heaven, all moving things in the seas, and all things that move on the earth.
Yes, even though God assigned angels to guard and minister to the Garden of God or paradise, Adam was their Captain or Commander incharge over the angels dressing and keeping the Garden, including over the cherubim. Don't think the Cherubim and flaming sword guarding the Garden came after Adam was taken out, rather they had been there before Adam sinned. Only that before Adam sinned, they were subject to Adam; but after Adam sinned they became fearful to Adam.
It takes a man of great wisdom and knowledge to both know and name all animals of the ground, and to both know and name the woman is bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh or taken out of him, even though he was unaware of when or how any of those creatures including the woman was secretly made. Just by looking at them he knew secrets, knowledge and had discernment of them.
In one of my recent writing here, I did mention that the intelligence God built into the man was taken from the clouds and Angels, while his eyes' material was taken from the Sun, just as his breath came from God Himself. So, never regard Adam as without knowledge enough to rule the earth or oversee the Garden of God. Infact, it's safer to regard Adam more knowledgeable before he ate of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil, than to regard Adam more knowledgeable after they ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil: I tell you, Adam was more illuminated before he ate the forbidden and less illuminated when or after he ate the forbidden tree — Therefore, don't let Illuminati fool you.
{2} Fact two: When Adam did not know he was naked, there was no problem with that ignorance. Infact, that ignorance was bliss.
The point is, God was not going to judge Adam for being naked, but was to judge Adam for being disobedient.
Many people today continued in the part of the Serpent, selling the narrative that it was better as Eve ate the forbidden fruit otherwise mankind would still be walking naked and remained babies in minddet. One idiot even suggested that there should be "World Eve Remembrance Day" in our calendar to celebrate Eve eating of the Forbidden Tree to help humanity become civilized: for if not for her humanity would have remained primitive and walking naked in bushes among animals.
Those celebrating the civilization that the forbidden knowledge brought forget also the death and destruction the same knowledge brought. Which would you choose between these two options: Option 1, You will know every good and evil in the world but once you attain all-knowing of good and evil you must die that very day; Option 2, You will-depend on God to guide you with His Spirit or Message on what is good and what is not good, but you will live as long as keep His word
The Ignorance that is bliss is being independently blind in your natural abilities, but seeing through depending on the Spirit of God.
{3} Adam was not supposed or required to outsmart the cunning Serpent, rather Adam was supposed or required to keep the Commandment of God. It is as simple as that.
What business did Adam had with the Serpent you speak of? Even if there was someone Adam should outsmart, that should be to outsmart the woman whom Adam obviously knew better than. He had no business outsmarting a serpent. How can you tell the God who gave you everything including the woman that you were loyal to the woman more than you were loyal to the God? God gave you everything, including dominion, life, power, paradise, enjoyment, practical all goodness on the platter of gold without breaking a sweat; but the only thing the woman ever gave you was one or half forbidden fruit, and you because of her tiny forbidden gift you throw away your senses and your glorious destiny to betray your God in order not to miss what she was offering you? What kind of excuse or justification are you trying to make for Adam in this matter?
Apart from the Devil and his team, which other creature is as ungrateful as human beings?
Simple instruction, "Do not eat this, for you must die in the day you eat it." What has that got with being smarter or naked or ignorant or still a child?
Adam did not have to smarter than the Serpent, he only needed to be more grateful and more loyal to God than the Serpent — That's all Adam needed to overcome the Serpent and remain King in Paradise forever.
Let's establish three facts here also:
{1}. You mentioned that Adam clearly saw his wife eat the forbidden fruit and did not die but instead became wise — as a sign for Adam to follow. Many Christians deceived by their pastors, General Overseers, Prophets, Apostles and so-called fathers in the Lord, with so-called exegesis that either forces God's Severity and Warnings to blend with their hyper grace and prosperity messages or else they discard such Severity or Warnings of God as Old Testament or as unenlightened views of Old ministers, are also good in using false signs, testimonies, superstories and hypes, as miracles, signs and wonders, they sell to the people when they deceive them.
For Adam, he first observed the signs and wonders of his wife eating of the forbidden tree without any seen harm but false appearance of being wise: and he also foolishly believed and listened to his wife at the expense of obeying God. Same with that man of God from Judah, who listened to the signs and wonders of an old or elderly prophet at the direct expense of obeying God in First Kings chapter thirteen.
{2}. God already gave Adam first and last time offender's warning grace. The fact that God had to use, "Surely" in warning Adam of the death or inevitable consequences of eating of that tree. For a God who cannot lie, who's word practically created all things, to have to swear or painstakingly assure man with "Surely, Verily or Vow to man" in emphasis as if saying the same thing without the assurance was not good enough, and yet a serpent out of nowhere or a woman made you believe God was not serious or "God's Surely, Verily" is not exegesis but a theological error that does not agree with New Testament Character, Grace or Revelation of God; what more warnings do you think God would give to that man and he will hear?
{3}. The Punishment of Adam and his generations was also warning to Adam and to his generations. Their sufferings, their death, their been in hell etc., were all part of the last warning of God for the redemption of Adam and mankind. Figuratively, it's cruel punishment that lasted for 4 or 5 days, and those 4 or 5 days translated into about 4000 or 5000 thousand years till the Lord Jesus Christ descended into Hell and restored Adam and Eve back to Paradise and to Heaven. So currently, Adam and Eve have been forgiven and restore into far more glorious estate than they had in the beginning.
Unfortunately, not all descendants of Adam and Eve got to be saved, delivered or redeemed. The current punishment or suffering people are facing is not to blame Adam and Eve, but to sin and wickedness of mankind and of devils. Ensure you are not part of the sinners or devils, but part of the righteous and holy ones in all records of your life on earth. This is exactly what I mean by hypocrisy. You carefully avoided the fact that Adam did not create himself nor was he the one that gave himself the type of brain that would arrive at the conclusion that the thing to do was to eat the fruit. EVERYTHING Adam did was entirely a result of the type if brain he was given and the tyoe if experiences he was,exposed to - none of which he chose! You also carefully avoided the fact that long before he was created God already knew he'd eat the fruit! |
Career › Re: Is Data Analytics Still A Good Career Choice With The Growth Of AI? by QuinQQ(f): 2:51pm On Sep 15 |
DMCA: AI go analyze d data but no be every data e fit make sense out of. Eg after analyzing QuinQ aka QuinQQ nairaland posts e go take person like lalami3232 to give report why QuinQ wan start act pornography with face covered  AI very rarely makes mistakes and it seems to know everything. Example below, how does it know I mean that Diezani?
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Romance › Re: How Do You Say SEX Without Using The Word? by QuinQQ(f): 2:41pm On Sep 15 |
We virgins are here to learn |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 2:35pm On Sep 15 |
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Politics › Re: "If Lagos Goes Down Today, God Forbid, Nigeria Goes Down" - Dr. Obafemi Hamzat by QuinQQ(f): 2:34pm On Sep 15 |
Cromagnon: how did his policy is impoverish the common man Was the common man baking before tinubu, buhari, Jonathan, obj, Abacha or even Ibb? Go ask the man on the street if things have not gotten steadily worse since APC came to.power |
Christianity Etc › Re: Re: Atheist Source Of Morality. by QuinQQ(f): 2:27pm On Sep 15 |
Dtruthspeaker: Why do you deceive yourself? Who told you China is an atheist state? Do they not still practice their Taoism and budhisim and their old religious festivals even today? So because their present dictator king is ruling them with an iron fist and restricting/quashing Christianity is what makes him an atheist? Did China just fall out from the sky? C'mon, don't talk rubbish.
And yes, Law is a religion and from religion hence why it is religion that says a father/mother has a duty to take care of his family, children and that they had no rights to carnivore other humans. SIRTee15: This will be last post to u because it's obvious u punching far above your level on this matter. Imagine comparing morality to responsibility. Even a wicked father who is a murderer takes care of their offspring. Most serial killers have families that they love to death and will never harm. Their families are mostly shocked when a serial killers is arrested and exposed as a murderer. They always say he was a loving father and husband.
China just became atheist less than 60 yrs ago. For thousands of years they have a moral code built within Confucianism moral code which they beleive is divine, and that's what they still use today. Modern day chinese moral framework is built around Confucius religious teaching even if they don't follow the theology. My friend go.and read and stop embarassing yourself in public. Note if I don't reply u again, it's because your post was riddled with if ignorance; there's a limit to what I can take of ignorance. Dtruthspeaker: See, you are doing exactly what he said atheists do which makes them hypocrites for he has put away his own belief in Christianity and in religion as the best basis of morality to ask and to ascertain what is the basis of atheists morality.
The focus now is on atheists to show us their foundation of morality belief if at all they have one.
And the answer is SILENCE.
Therefore, in the absence of any valid opposition, religion is winning and atheism has no basis of morality as his threads prove Is it religion that gave you a conscience? I am tired. You folks should read this below and research more on the natural state of human condition without input of religion. China is officially an atheist state (not just anti Christianity). You can't be in CCP if you hold any religious beliefs or belong to any religion
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Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 2:07pm On Sep 15 |
Jman06: Stop comparing yourself and other girls from poor backgrounds with Diezani. She was from a rich background and even at that she settled as a second option to Rear Admiral Madueke who was in his mid fifties at the time of marrying her. The point is that despite being such a marrigeable lady with leisure time she still got married at 39, how much more an overworked struggling lady with no time for dating |
Politics › Re: 2027 Maga Poll: Atiku Came 1st; Peter Obi Came 2nd; Tinubu, A Distant 3rd by QuinQQ(f): 8:00am On Sep 15 |
helinues: I was expecting a name not ejo wewe..Let's see if you have the confidence to mention the person.
Hope you still remember with sincerity I started with You know the names of the presidential candidates |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 7:58am On Sep 15 |
tollyboy5: A poor polygamous man is a foolish man. A rich polygamous man with no plans for every child is a foolish man.
A gold digger using hypergamous as face mask might learn a bitter lesson. A successful woman looking for a more successful man that will let her do as she wants in his house is a foolish woman. A woman who feels she’s above the men of current status or league should be careful. Old age is also nature. And it doesn’t forgive "Polygamous doesn't mean he'll have children with them. Just wants to bed as many as posdible. A successful woman craves a successful man she can submit to! |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 7:54am On Sep 15 |
Bittersweetnig: until you begin to hear I clothes you, I fed you, you are a ........ MAN. Then you will realise what you put your self in to So you walk away. You didn't spend a penny on her. While you'll borrow money to marry someone and still hear mouth |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 7:26am On Sep 15 |
Awoleesu: Plus, one big factor she's missing is thinking that a Man will merely trade his surname on the altar of a bankroll from her .
I see a woman, who has not learnt that humility and genuine love keeps a man than the enticement of shouldering his responsibilities. She's arrogant in her speech, with such adjectives as "lazy man"! I mean... What man would accept a proposal that described him as 'lazy' even before proving him?!
I wish her luck sha, cos very probably, she'll only fall into the hands of some scammer. Actually many Nigerian men will. The problem is that the type of man she wants won't! |
Politics › Re: Things Nigerians Could Easily Afford 5 Years Ago by QuinQQ(f): 7:23am On Sep 15 |
Quite true. Five years ago, before Bola came to power, seems like the good old days - for the common man |
Politics › Re: "I Promise You I Will Be President Of This Country" - Natasha Osawaru by QuinQQ(f): 7:18am On Sep 15 |
simpleseyi: Why is Tuface always attracted to drug addicts? If not drugs, what is making this one spew garbage? If Tinubu can be President with no background, WHY can't she be president with the Igbinedion name |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 7:03am On Sep 15 |
Stanbaba30: Brothers, Brothers, Brothers.... How many times did I call you? Just run for your lives. As beautiful as she looks, there's DANGEROUS DANGER written all over. She even said even if you are lazy... Chaaaai, I pity anyone that falls for this, you may not have a chance to tell the story. E get why Bible say "he that findeth a wife, findeth a good thing".., this one na other way around oooo🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Nonsense. Time plays a trick.. one day you are 25, then fiam you are 45 wondering what happened. Has nothing to do with being a bad person |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 6:59am On Sep 15 |
ezra1990: We know their gimmicks...all she needs is the man's sperm to fertilize her ovaries (if it's still viable)... she's using marriage as an undercover...we know what happens next after her mission is accomplished... Painful some SIMPS will still fall for it. She made clear what she wants - your name and sperm. How was she hiding it? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Re: Atheist Source Of Morality. by QuinQQ(f): 6:50am On Sep 15 |
SIRTee15: If u dont know the history of religion, I will advise u educate yourself and cure your ignorance. organised religion were well established thousands of years b4 the Abrahamic religion and there were well known moral codes governing those societies b4 God gave Moses the torah. There is no known moral code that exist outside of a religious framework- none. all morality are shaped by religious belief system- be it ancient or modern
Below are ancient moral codes that existed even before God gave Moses the 10 commandment. All of them governed ancient civilizations and were based off beliefs in gods and attributed to them.
1. Ma’at moral code, c. 3100–300 BCE. Ancient Egypt; attributed to Ma’at, goddess of truth, justice, and cosmic order.
2. The Code of Ur-Nammu, c. 2100–2050 BCE. Sumer, Mesopotamia; attributed to Nanna/Sin, the moon god, patron deity of Ur.
3. Code of Hammurabi (first legal code known to mankind) c. 1754 BCE. Babylon, Mesopotamia; attributed to Shamash, god of justice and the sun, who gave the laws to King Hammurabi.
4. Hittite Laws, c. 1650–1500 BCE. Hittite Empire, Anatolia; attributed to The Storm God, Teshub, and the Hittite divine order
5. The 10 commandment Mosaic Law / Torah traditionally c. 1300–1200 BCE; attributed to Yahweh, who is described as giving the laws to Moses
6. Avesta / Zoroastrian moral law, teachings traditionally c. 1200–600 BCE; texts compiled later Ancient Persia/Iran; attributed to Ahura Mazda, supreme God of truth and wisdom
I REPEAT, THERE IS NO MORAL VALUES DEVELOPED INDEPENDENTLY OF RELIGIOUS BELIEF SYSTEM ANYWHERE. PEOPLE IN ANCIENT TIMES BELIEVED THE gods GAVE THEM THOSE MORAL CODES AS A WAY TO WORSHIP AND PLEASE THEM. THERE IS NO ANCIENT CIVILISATION THAT DEVELOPED ITS MORALITY OUTSIDE A RELIGIOUS FRAMEWORK- NONE
anybody arguing against this is simply ignorant. This is one of the most ignorant posts I've read on Nairaland. Was it religion that made a father take care of his family, or a mother tske care of children? Was it religion that prevented people using other people as protein? Was it religion that made people form friendships and look out for each other? China is officially an atheist state. Why don't they all kill each other because of no religion?
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Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 6:39am On Sep 15 |
Felicity001: So how about all the men you dated all the years since you knew a man lets say at age 16/18, now she is 41... what did uou use all the men to do? Now you suddenly woke up to realised you meed a name... what happened to the name of your father, pr is your father's name jot okay. Enjoy all the wealth you've acquired, no man for you. Simple! Time plays a trick... one day you are 25 and wondering why some older girls are not married. You sleep and wake up and suddenly you are that unmarried older girl! |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 6:35am On Sep 15 |
12345baba: y not send one of ur male relatives to apply. Oh I definitely will |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 6:34am On Sep 15 |
tollyboy5: Nature ke? Nobody is fighting nature. Nature is dealing with a lot of people. Who cares about hypergamous shi.. girls are clocking 20 yearly nobody has time for nonsense. Life itself is a lesson teacher if you don’t adjust you learn a bitter lesson Yes, nature! Men are polygamous by nature, and women are hypergamous |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 6:32am On Sep 15 |
Jeezuzpick: She's not even "pretty".
She's just full of makeup.
She might even be shapeless under that gown.
Anywhoo, desperate, hungry guys are welcome.
Food is ready She's pretty enough |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 6:31am On Sep 15 |
Qualityoffer: You keep hammering on Diezani as if she was the first wife of Rear Admiral Alison Madueke.
Besides, it could be said that the same thing that made her to marry late at 39 as a woman is equally the same that made her a divorcee today. I'm not judging Diezani, no, just applying your whack logic. How does she not being first wife mean anything? Didn't you hear Tiwa say she'd be second wife? Point is, she is a beautiful, accomplished lady. So is Linda Ikeji. See how long her marriage lasted. The man is in his 80's! |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 6:24am On Sep 15 |
Sunkab: It's a prophecy, and it has been happening, I av read it on nairaland here, where men married 2 women on the same day. Not even once not twice . Nigeria is NOT the only country in the world. The social stigma of being unmarried has totally disappeared in many parts of the world. That is the ONLY thing that can make the prophesy happen. Remove social stigma and the prophesy is impossible. |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 6:16am On Sep 15 |
Apcshit: With her hair extensions. Why can't Nigeria women do natural hair It is not only us, most black women everywhere. Same reason white women tan their skins to NOT look like belly of a fish! And people dye their grey hair! |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 6:10am On Sep 15 |
joseph1832: The people doing the offering are the problem. I know she'll get the ragtag silly kind of men, that's for sure. She's even doing more harm than good to herself. Not true. There are men long past marriage age who have no idea how to get together with ladies like her and end up marrying way beneath themselves and spending lots of money doing it (because the lady has neither money nor job!) |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 5:25am On Sep 15 |
jaxxy: What does she do for a living? Maybe na yahoo girl or something. 😅🤣 Girls don't do Yahoo, only boys  |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 5:23am On Sep 15 |
joseph1832: Stupid things, that is. The more reason why stupid things, attract it's kind.
She doesn't even sound Nigerian though, to be honest. One thing is for certain, she'll get more offers by doing this video. She,also doesn't sound NOT Nigerian |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 5:11am On Sep 15 |
joseph1832: She should go hunting and stop looking for attention on social media. Tssk. That's what she's doing - hunting. Desperation makes people do things |
Politics › Re: 'No Vacancy In Aso Rock For The Next 4 Or 5 Years': Oba Of Lagos Backs Tinubu by QuinQQ(f): 5:08am On Sep 15 |
True, there is no vacancy - but there should be! APC have done their best but have failed the common man. It is time for them to go and rest small |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 5:01am On Sep 15 |
Amumaigwe: She has always had this mindset even in her 20's, Why is she still searching for ''the kind of man she has in mind' up till her 40's if she is reasonable in her tastes and also the kind of woman 'such' a man would desire? Why not ask Diezani who married for the first time at 38/39 to an Admiral and former governor |
Christianity Etc › Re: Re: Atheist Source Of Morality. by QuinQQ(f): 4:57am On Sep 15 |
I sm a Christian but I think this is a rather poor angle from which to attack atheism. Is religion the source of human empathy, evolutionary social instincts, reasoning, and shared cultural agreements?? Humans are social animals. Compassion and a basic instinct to avoid causing pain are natural traits that help groups survive and cooperate. Communities create rules snd social contracts —such as laws against theft or harm—because life works better when people agree to respect each other. Personal values also come from culture, upbringing, family, education, history, and the surrounding society, which have evolved long before and alongside organized religion! |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 4:31am On Sep 15 |
uvincent2: She's not a good person. If she is, ask urself y is she the one looking for a husband @41 Ayo8: The focused ones get married as soon as they become ready for it... they need not put up advert in search for suitors. Also you dont get to tell if you're a good person or not... people around you get to make an assessment of your behaviour. So Diezani is not focused and not a good person because she married approaching 39?? Or Linda Ikeji, not married at 45?? |
Romance › Re: Beautiful 41-year-old Woman In Search Of A Husband by QuinQQ(f): 4:25am On Sep 15 |
franchasng: I understand you very well, I have a SIL in this situation; very beautiful, good mannered maybe to me as her BIL sha, semi-rich and well traveled, a former banker now residing abroad. One thing I realized is that banking job affects ladies getting married on time in Nigeria from my little observation cos I know like 5 different cute bankers in this situation, some have left the banking sector and now abroad and doing very well but still single cos they missed taking advantage of their prime ages as women.
From my personal observations too, female bankers tend to be overambitious and they set high standard for men they would want to settle with, and because of their obviously high taste and standard in men, they end up meeting mostly married men like us cos before a man attains the height most cute female bankers in Nigeria do desire, such man must have passed age 33 and already married.
My little advice to young female bankers reading this is to be realistic with life, lower your expectations from men, go for some basic vital qualities and trust in God and build with the man, believe me he will still end up financially successful and rich with time. If people like us and some good number of close friends and course mates I know could later become well to do, then every man can with focus, dedication, time and God's mercy.
So I say amen to your prayer, may the good and ever merciful God answer your prayers and grant your heart desires soonest, but try a bit to lower your expectations knowing fully well that you are a Nigerian and a woman in 2026 when things have changed with women now having more opportunities to make it financially than men compared to 20, 30, 40 years ago. Wishing you and other expectant ladies Godspeed and favor. Thanks for the narrative and thank you very much for your good wishes and advice. But it is just like me telling you to marry a lady you fundamentally don't find attractive (just example) because time is running out. What do you think will be fate of such marriage?? |