Fun fact, there's about 805 million bantus living in Africa. So you're right. You're outnumbered (so much for dying of HIV and wigs, right?). But that doesn't matter.

China outnumbers every other East Asian country, but there are countless internationally renowned success stories from people in Japan and South korea and Singapore and Thailans and their Diasporas. China's overwhelming population didn't stop those countries from developing either.

Living in the West s a big help in gaining notoriety, I will admit. However, there are also large numbers of blacks who live in Africa (or grew up in Africa) who became internationally renowned. Such as, Nelson Mandela, Brenda Fassie, Miriam Makeba, Wangari Maathai, Leila Lopes, Desmond Tutu, Kofi Annan, Chinua Achebe, Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, Lupita Nyong'o and so many more. The only household name from Somalia I can think of is Iman.

And not to beat a dead horse, but I was wondering... If Somalia has the world's most homogenous population, how come you guys fight each other the most in your own country? Every other country in Africa is more diverse and all of them are safer, and when there is conflict in those countries it's usually between tribes/cultures. How come Somalis hate themselves axum?

Why havent the mods banned axum? I'm in about 10 threads right now that started off as positive discussions and have been transformed into needlessly intense debates between people about ethnicity and history.

axum:



Your a slowpoke. If Somalis/Ethiopians didnt exist I would not exist. Since they do and I am them, why would I claim to be black.

Its like Somalis forcing telling the Bantus inside Somalia to be proud of being ethnic Somalis when they are Bantu. It makes no sense.

There are Somali/Ethiopian doctors, lawyers, who do you think runs Somalia/Ethiopia its ethnic people from those countries.

Being a Doctor/Lawyer is a trade anyone can learn. Look at your history and compare it to ours.

You're missing my point. Of course every country has doctors. But how many Somali/Ethiopian nobel prize winners are there? How many are world renowned actors/ musicians? How many have been recognized for major medical breakthroughs? How many are as influential as Nelson Mandela?

To this day, I can not name a Somali who is the best/highest paid/most famous/ or most influential at ANYTHING. Not at sports, not at music, not at any form of science from medicine to engineering, not at philosophy, not at poetry, not at acting, not even at journalism or human rights advocacy. I can think of many Bantus who are either well known or hold the top spot in all of those categories. Maybe there's a Somali who's the best at brushing hair or something, or piracy.

Did you know that the richest person of all time was black? Mansa Musa. Look him up. He's the richest Emperor and person of all time and he was West African.

You keep talking about how Somalis owned slaves... Bantus owned slaves as well. And there were Bantu West African Empires that were larger and richer than the ones in the Horn of Africa. They traded with the middle east as well.

The thing about us bantus is that we can exclude Somalis and Ethiopians from the equation and still talk about extraordinarily succesful bantus from the past and the present. You on the other hand realize that Somalis are vastly outnumbered and outperformed by bantus in every field today. Its shameful how u choose to live in the past. You dont realize how foolish it makes you look. If you were really so great in the past and we were so awful and low, then how did you fall to the bottom of the bottom, and how did we rise so far above you into excellence?

axum:



Again I dont need to tell you about How Somalis/Ethiopians view themselves or see Bantus, our history speaks for itself, but seeing as you have low self esteem you will hang on to anything in order to attach yourself to anyone who is not Black

If Ethiopians and Somalis never existed i would still be proud to be black. 99.99% of all of the famous and successful sub-saharan Africans and people of the sub-saharn diaspora are not Ethiopian or Somali. You can name any single profession from engineering to arts to the sciences and beyond and can name a "bantu" person who is/was noteworthy (often times world famous for being a geniusbor the best) in every single field you can possibly imagine (even slave trade).

You cannot do the same for Somalis. So take yourself and your misplaced pride elsewhere.

tpiah11:


since you insist on being closeminded just like your Peruvian friend, then what exactly are you on about?

you do know people can see through the phony kumbaya rhetoric.

Besides, you come across as very anti-black.

How am i anti-black when this whole thread was started to promote panafricanism? How am i being closed-minded when you cant even wrap your mind around there being non-mixed hispanic people?

Even if every single hispanic person alive was mixed (which is not at all true), In America there are mixed black people who are still just considered black. So why cant mixed black hispanics just be considered black, qnd mixed white hispanics just be considered white?

tpiah11:
^Hispanics are primarily mixed race, meaning their ancestors are mixed [not necessarily with black].





through her father. Her mum is of German and British ancestry.[wiki].






being dark skinned does not necessarily mean someone is not mixed.

I dont care if hispanics are primarily mixed race. I have a friend who's family is from Peru (both parents) and he's 100% European his grandparents are racist as hell and dont believe in race mixing and his first ancestor to arrive in Peru arrived only 88 years ago from Spain. But he's still Hispanic. Hispanic is a culture, not a race. And I know being dark skinned does not mean you're not mixed, but even if there is one person in the Dominican Republic who is not mixed at all, then that proves my point. All it takes is ONE non-mixed person to prove my point about Hispanics. How uneducated are you?

tpiah11:
Hispanic as a term defining race, applies only to people of direct central or southern American descent. They can be classified as Hispanic even if they dont speak Spanish, as long as they're ancestrally related to peoples from those areas.

This is what is considered the modern definition of Hispanic, or Latino.

Black Africans fall under the classification of negroid racial groups, and this applies despite the diverse phenotypes, languages, cultures, etc.

People from the main peninsula of Spain, are more correctly called Spaniards since they are generally not mixed with Latin America and are natives of Europe.

Equatorial Guinea actually has three official languages: French, Spanish and Portuguese.






they had such prefixes pre-independence. EQ was Spanish Guinea, part of Morocco was Spanish Morocco, etc.

Everybody and their mom knows that Hispanic is not a racial category. It's an ethnic category. A Hispanic can be of Chinese descent, or European Descent or Native American Descent or African descent. As an example, Cameron Diaz is about as white as any white American, but she is hispanic. However, there are many Dominacans who are as black as anyone in Africa, yet they are also Hispanic. Nobody considers Hispanic a race. It's an ethnicity that transcends race. Thus you can be a negroid and be Hispanic at the same time, and be Caucasian and be hispanic and be Mongoloid and Hispanic at the same time.

You are right that Equatorial Guinea has 3 official language, but did you know that Spanish is not only one of their official languages, but is also the country's ONLY national language?

KidStranglehold:
Now I see the mistake I made, thanks. But I still have not heard anywhere where the people of EG are described as Hispanic. Unless you can point me to a source.

It's kind of a difficult thing to research because it's not a geographic identity like "African" or "Asian", but rather a cultural identity like "Western". A person of any race/ethnicity can be Western they just have to live in a Western country. The same goes for hispanic. So in short, you will find many texts and organizations that refer to Equatorial Guinea as hispanic, and you will find some that do not.

Here's a reference that considers it hispanic as well as a screenshot from it's Wikipedia page citing that it was a part of the Hispanic-African cultural congress. I'll also include a Youtube link to see an Equatorial Guinean ambassador claiming that Guineans take pride in SPanish as their language and it will always remain their official language.

http://lrc.salemstate.edu/hispanics/hispanicworld.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk0AjyiE4tU

KidStranglehold:


Read the quote again, because I don't think you're understing. Its saying the English version of "Hispanic" refers to those exclusivity from Latin America. " but which as an English word is probably a shortening of the Spanish word latinoamericano—refers more exclusively to persons or communities of Latin American origin."

The English version in which we mostly use today. And America is not the only one that goes by that definition.

If people from EG are truly Hispanic, mind posting me a source that says so? Because I have no read/seen anything. At best I only seen EG be labeled under Spanish speaking countries, but the people not Hispanic.

You read the quote again... At the very beginning of the screenshot it says that "Though often used interchangeably in American English, Hispanic and Latino ARE NOT IDENTICAL TERMS.

It defines Hispanic at the top. Which is just as I described it. It says that is derived from the latin word for Spain and broadly encompasses all Spanish speaking peoples in all hemispheres who may have little else in common. That is the last thing it says about the term HISPANIC

Then it moves on to the term "latino" and then says that in Spanish Latino means latin, but in English it's usually reference to anyone from Latin America.

The problem I'm having with you is that you seem to be using Latino, and Hispanic interchangeably, which the VERY FIRST LINE told you not to do. Show me a direct line where it says Hispanics can only be in South/Central America. And I want the word "Hispanic" to be there. Not "Latino", "Hispanic"

KidStranglehold:


Read the things you post:
"Hispanic, from the Latin word for "Spain," has the broader reference, potentially encompassing all Spanish-speaking peoples in both hemispheres and emphasizing the common denominator of language among communities that might sometimes seem to have little else in common. Latino—which in Spanish means "Latin" but which as an English word is probably a shortening of the Spanish word latinoamericanorefers more exclusively to persons or communities of Latin American origin."

The English version of "Hispanic" is now the more commonly used version and neither the Spanish or people from Equatorial Guinea are considered Hispanic. So again wrong.

That said latin is exclusively for people of latin american descent, but Hispanic is for all spanish speakers around the world.

What the United States considers certain words does not matter. Different countries have different contexts for different words. WHy are we operating in the American context by default? In America colored people/ people of color are just non-white people. However, in South Africa coloured people are ethnically mixed people. Also in America, Obama can be considered black, in the same way a lot of half-black people are simply seen as black. Look up dozens of famous actors and actresses who fit this categorization. So if a half-black/half-white South African considers himself colored and not just black, would you argue with him just because in America things are viewed differently than in his home country?

If you look, I never said Equatorial Guinea was latin. I said it was Hispanic, and the link you provided backs that statement up

KidStranglehold:


WRONG. You can only be considered Hispanic if you are from Spanish speaking country in Latin America. Otherwise people from Spain would be considered Hispanic too.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hispanic
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Hispanic

WRONG

Some of you people on this forum amaze me sometimes...
People from Spain are considered Hispanic....You didn't even read the whole definition.. Here's what the second link you posted had to say...

tpiah11:
Yes, I meant Latino which is the general term used to refer to Hispanics, people consider the two interchangeable and specific to Central and Southern America.

Spanish speaking African countries would have "Spanish" as a prefix, not necessarily the blanket term Hispanic.

Technically, going by your definition, parts of Morocco would also be considered Hispanic instead of North African.

If, however, some sub saharan African people want to be known by the term Hispanic because of the new US immigration laws, then ignore my last two posts, they have nothing to do with the matter.

You know that there are actual definitions for the terms Hispanic and Latino/Latina, right?

The definition of a hispanic person is someone from a Spanish speaking country or someone with a heritage from a Spanish speaking country. However, different countries have their own terms and definitions for different things. You're correct to say that in the United States, a hispanic is typically considered someone of central/south American descent, however in the broader international context (even in the pan-hispanic community), a hispanic person is simply someone from a Spanish-speaking nation.

It's like how in the United States, a colored person or a person of color is a general umbrella term for someone who is not white. Meanwhile in South Africa a coloured person is someone of mixed ethnicity.

Also, no by my logic parts of Morrocco would not be considered hispanic. Spanish has to be the nation's official language for that to be the case. That is why Morrocco is considered an Arab nation and part of the Arab world (which is traditionally considered to be the 22 countries in the Arab league which all speak Arabic as their official language).

I don't know where you got the idea that Spanish speaking countries would have the "spanish prefix". I can't think of any nations with prefixes like that. The only place I know of significance with something like that is French Guiana in South America, but French Guiana is not a sovereign nation, it is an overseas part of France, just like how Puerto Rico is a part of the United States. So why would an independent state in Afica have Spanish as a prefix, when no Latin American countries have that? By your logic Africa would be full of countries like "French Senegal" and "British Tanzania" and "Portuguese Mozambique".

tpiah11:


You didnt mention kenya, any particular reason for that? Just wondering.

in addition, equatorial guinea is an african country, not a hispanic one. You have to be descended from south or central america to be considered hispanic, not so? Speaking the language alone doesnt make someone hispanic, to the best of my knowledge.

No, you are Hispanic if you are from a Spanish speaking country (official language), thus you can be a Hispanic from Spain, or a Hispanic from Argentina or a Hispanic from Mexico or a Hispanic form Equatorial Guinea. Look it up if you don't believe me.

However, Latino/Latina identity is different because it is reference anyone from a Latin American country. Thus, in this case, people from Spain would not be considered Latino.

There is no reason I didn't mention Kenya, I know several Indians from Kenya/Uganda who consider Africa their first home. I was just listing countries where I have the closest Indian friends/acquaintances.

More African women to feed your soul.

In order:

Leila Lopes (Angola)
Minnie Dlamini (South Africa)
Boitumelo "Boity" Thulo (South Africa)
Vanessa Mdee (Tanzania)
Lizha James (Mozambique)



[img]http://buzzsouthafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/Minnie+Dlamini.jpg[/img]


[img]http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Lizha+James+Sound+Check+MTV+Africa+Music+Awards+glTi8UqNC4Kl.jpg[/img]

axum:



Remove your lies. And DONT TALK ABOUT SOMALIA/ETHIOPIA/ERITREA, STICK TO TALKING ABOUT BANTUS

You'd be sad to learn how many Ethiopians I know who consider themselves black. Somalis too. I think you're the liar. I think you're trying to paint a narrative of every Somali being a racist, backwards fool. When in reality all of us here know this is not the truth.

And tell me this Axum, how come every time someone proves to you that bantus are doing better you bring up women wearing wigs? If Somalis think that having soft hair is more important that having a stable, functioning, and developing country then they are doomed to stay in constant turmoil. I'll take being in a flourishing city surrounded by bantu women in wigs and braids and afros any day over living in a decaying city with no stability, and hearing gunshots and bomb blasts.

As for HIV, like someone else said, how are we all dying off from HIV when Mali, Uganda, Sierra Leone, and Burkina Faso all have higher birthrates than Somalia and Somalia has the 4th lowest life expectancy of any African country? And as for "ugliness" being the demise of black people, that doesn't even make sense. It doesn't matter how you feel about us. More than enough of us like each other and procreate with each other and take pride in ourselves to keep our populations, and economies growing.


You on the other-hand seem to think that being Somali makes you better looking, and that somehow being better looking means your "race" will go on and on and grow forever because you're the best people in Sub-Saharan Africa right? When in reality it seems you guys are only the best at blowing yourselves up and hurting your own people. Not just in Africa, but the whole world. If Bantus are the definition of ugly because our women choose to wear wigs, then Somalis are the definition of self-destructive because you kill each other more than any ethnic group in the entire world.

Axum... Kenya has had mpesa (which allows you to send money to people and do other transactions through mobile phone) for 8 years... and you guys just last year got an ATM and now you think you're hot stuff because you can use your phone to pay too? Kenyans can use their phones to pay as a simpler option to cash if they want to. Somalis in Mogadishu use it because carrying cash is unsafe and their currency is worthless.

So please, you have impressed nobody, and every single place they visited in that video that they called "exclusive" or "high end" looked like trash compared to even the mid-ranged cafes found right next-door in Kenya.







And those are just the mid-ranged ones equivalent to Starbucks or Panera Bread. Forget about Somalia ever competing with the 5 star restaurants/hotels/anythings

That's not true. Only scammers, con artists and drug smugglers get treated like that. While I would agree that there is a stereotype of Nigerians being crooks and untrustworthy in Kenya, it's really more of an unfriendly stereotype that's seen as more of a joke. Most Kenyans (at least in Nairobi, I can't speak for other places) will treat you with respect and be very interested in doing business with you.

The biggest secret in Kenya is that we Kenyans actually love Nigerian culture, fashion and music. It's far more popular amongst the urban population than local Kenyan music, and the movies are a guilty pleasure for many.

KidStranglehold:
I don't want to become the Osama Bin Laden of this thread, but throughout African history there has never been a pan-African unity just as there has never been an Asian pan unity or European for that matter. The closest thing Africa has ever came to a pan unity was the Songhai Empire which united many different ethnicity's of West and North Africa. But other than that Africa has always been too diverse for one.

In my opinion I think a Pan-Africa can only work business wise and militarily wise in what Nigeria is doing right now with other West African nations. A cultural and spiritual is too complex to happen. A pan unity where Africa is together united into a single government... Yeah you throw that idea right out the window.

The only thing we're getting right now is African countries forming unions with countries in their specific region. Nigeria is hoping to do that with West Africa right now.

Africa has never been united as one entity, and before colonization, the tribes of Nigeria were never united as one identity, but now they all consider themselves Nigerian, regardless of wether they want to tribalism themselves or not. Same thing with every other African country.

I don't support pan-Africanism because I have some misguided belief that unity and harmony was the original state of all the peoples of Africa. I support pan-Africanism because it's a way for us to take control of our own destiny and create a new powerful identity for ourselves that would demand respect from the globe.

Right now Africa feeds the world, but the world eats without Africa. As individual nations we don't have much economic or political power, even Nigeria, which is Africa's biggest economy isn't even in the top 25 world's largest economies. Just imagine what would happen if all of sub-saharn Africa united under one government and then kept all of it's resources strictly for itself. The world would starve. Africa has enough arable land to grow enough food to feed the entire world's population. What if we used it to grow food just for ourselves, and used our oil and other natural resources just for ourselves and built up our own economies?

Imagine a country bigger than any other in the world with masses of people flooding to the big cities in the West and the South and the East, building them up the way immigrants built up American cities in the 20th centuries. Now imagine a University that collects the brightest minds from all over that massive African country. Imagine the possibilities. Now imagine this nation 20 years after it's birth being a massive economic powerhouse and easily the world's most visited tourist destination.

Maakhir:


Egypt is a arab country making cairo a arab city

johannesburg is still suffering form post-apartheid and is mainly controlled by whites

Mauritius is still a French Protectorate and the only two people that I met from Mauritius were of a Indian Background.

That being said, I considered Nairobi the best when It came to looks but my experience there wasn't great.

1. Egypt is Arab in the same way that Equatorial-Guinea is a hispanic country, but they are both African. It just happens that one of them speaks Arabic and has a lot of caucasians of Middle Eastern descent, while the other speaks Spanish and is majority black. This isn't about race, but about representing African cities.

2. Once again, this isn't about who has power anywhere. this is about showing the cities.

3. Yes, the majority of the population of Mauritius is of Indian descent (68%) but this isn't about race. I for one have met several people from Mauritius who were all Indian and I got along well with them and consider them good acquaintances and loved their company. What I also found was that while they considered themselves to be culturally Indian (in the same way, Africans in America consider themselves to be culturally Somali, or Nigerian or Congolese, etc) these friends from Mauritius still considered Africa to be their home. They had lived there their whole lives. This is the same thing I hear from Indians all over Africa, and I've met many from Botswana, South Africa, and Madagascar as well as Mauritius.

4. What is your point about your time spent in Nairobi? You can have a good or bad time anywhere. I've had great times in Johannesburg when I used to live there. I never got robbed inside my house and only got robbed once when my friend was flashing jewelry on the street. Many people I know have been robbed multiple times and sometimes at gunpoint. But I never did and I lived there for 6 years. Let's keep this thread positive. We can turn on the news if we want to see negative views of Africa that badly.

barwaaqo:


Weird in the same sense as eurocentrics combining different african cultures into made up boundaries?

The problem is no one looks at african nations as a 'nations' except for africans themselves. These nations are treated as little more than a free for all. The power you have is minimum you are not free to seek a destiny of your own you can easily be exterminated and nothing could stop it.

Culture is the manifestation of a society's deposit of knowledge that is how we should determine if a culture can be a very worthwhile one.

Maybe, one that can be worthwhile but needs a little tune up to keep it competitive ?

Egypt brought some much needed civilities to human kind all peoples ascent into civilization are thanks to these very diverse group of africans who put many of the best aspects of different african cultures into one. OF course it didn't come easy you had some africans that wanted to eat fufu all day and night, Menes had to slap some sense into those kind of africans.

Further just think about the usa how do you believe usa left the world behind in its dust after world war two, I will tell you they snatched up every italian, german scientist they could find and made them americans. Those scientist that wanted to keep their special german or italian culture were exterminated. Its too bad that their beloved culture could not save them from that, you see it has less to do with respect and more to do with sociocultural evolution.

It is a simple decision to survive and prosper or to not

You make a good point, but the United States of America's ruling class has always been white anglo-saxons who forged their own identity in North America. If Africa were to become a country tomorrow (conflicts aside) there would be no ruling class. What culture would predominate in this new nation? "Nigerians" would be about 1 out of every 4 people in that new nation. Would that automatically mean that Nigerian/broader West African culture would be adopted by everyone else? I know many people in sub-saharan states would riot, so I would hate to imagine the north.

axum:



Well thats cause those countries have Tens of Millions of people, Somalia has about a little more than 10 Million people.

yeah because you all left because it's so bad, we get it.

anyway, let's get back to focusing on African unity..

and regardless of how many "cities" Somalia has, your nation's capital is widely considered to be the most lawless city on earth. Even with a civil war in Syria and the Islamic State ravaging the middle east, Somalia still manages be home to the worst city on Earth, and it's being destroyed by it's own people. Probably the same ones with your foolish mentality

axum:
Are you serious? Somalia has thousands of Cities, do you think google will show them all?


The BANTU mentality is absurdly retarded, he went full retard.

No country has "thousands" of cities in the traditional sense. There are cities, which are large metropolitan or simply urban areas (e.g. New York, D.C., Miami, Los Angeles, Boston, Minneapolis) Then there are towns/suburbs (there are certainly hundreds and thousands of these in most countries) and then in many non-western countries there are villages. But no country has thousands of metropolitan/truly urban areas (cities). You are a fool.

Okay, enough. This is the 100th thread that axum has derailed completely. In fact, this discussion has turned into the exact opposite of what this thread is supposed to be about.


We should be discussing how to work towards fostering African unity on this forum. Not in the weird afro-centric sense of combining different African cultures into one identity, but rather to respect each others cultures and nations.


That means, no tribalism, and no xenophobia. It also means realizing that to a large portion of the non-African world, all of our nations are viewed as related (perhaps with he exception of the saharan/sub-saharan divide). Africa as a whole is generally viewed as a continent that has suffered great loss and remains wholly underdeveloped. Thankfully many of our countries are on a steady path of positive development and are constantly appearing as some of the fastest growing economies and the world and the most attractive places for investment.


We need to encourage each other because it doesn't matter how many foreigners are visiting Cape Town and Casablanca right now, our whole continent has an international stigma that we need to encourage each other to overcome. But right now I see a person who comes from the country with the worst international reputation in Africa tearing the rest of us down simply because "Africa means nothing to him. It's just geography. He won't share a continental identity with any land that has black people". Well Axum, even if we bantus are "uncivilized", ugly and trying desperately to emulate the white man, as a whole, we are much, much better off than Somalis both in political reputation, standard of living, and wealth and current global contributions to medicine, science and global arts and culture those are facts. But please keep living in the past if you must, but live in that past somewhere else on the internet. Nairaland is not for you and you are not welcome here. Other, reasonable Somalis are more than welcome, but not you.


We should be doing better than this so here are some positive pictures of cities from the 7 regions of Africa (North,South,East,West,Horn,Central, Islands) to inspire us.

Cairo, Egypt:



Johannesburg, South Africa:

[img]http://static.wixstatic.com/media/13d085_cd078dae920843409d4fc66083a6e708.jpg_srz_940_380_85_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz[/img]

Nairobi, Kenya:

[img]http://178.62.245.197/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/home-page-slider-02.jpg[/img]

Lagos, Nigeria:



Addis Ababa, Ethiopia:



Port Louis, Mauritius:



Luanda, Angola:

Axum... I googled "Somalia cities" and this is what came up
Note what it says next to Mogadishu and Hargeisa. Apparently your country is so lawless and unsafe that the safest city is only safe by your countries incredibly low standards. So much for Somali excellence. I wish things were different I really do, for all of the level-headed Somalis in the world. But in your case, all I have to say is: let's just pray you survive to see Somalia become a modern nation and first world economy.

axum:



Mogadishu got its first ATM, People in northern Somalia use cell phones to exchange money into their accounts and have ATM.

Remove yourself.

Do not let him torture you emotionally. It is a difficult situation to be in I imagine. Try and find council in your family to help with your emotions and then try and stay active. If you cannot do that, I would try exercise. It will not only help you shed the weight but it will release endorphines that make you feel alive and happy after your workouts. Best of luck

axum:




I came here after You bantus were talking about Somalis and our women. Go die of HIV you filth.

Hmm... and how did you find out about what people were saying here? What were u doing reading these forums in the first place?

axum:



You are still pathetic, stop your obsession with Somalis/Ethiopians.

You clearly are the obsessed one and you are pathetic. I am a bantu on a bantu forum who made a thread with a positive message and am now defending my people. You on the other-hand went out of your way to join a forum for bantus (who you hate) which probably meant you searched something related to bantus. And now you've spent weeks commenting on bantus, and trying to get under their skin to bring them down. Does that not sound like an obsession?

axum:



Again your too stuuuupid to realize that your admitting your Bantu in your own words and than arguing that your Somali so you can attach yourself to us.


I only compare bantus to Somalis because Bantus like yourself try to claim us, and then you cry when i tell you the sad facts about the only relations we have as Bantus being Slaves in Somalia.

Clearly you're stupid. I'm OP. I said in the very beginning post that I am Kenyan. You must be referring to the other guy. I have never in my life claimed/pretended to be a Somali.

axum:



I bring up Somali in comparison because you talk about how we are related to you, we have nothing in common. Unlike Bantus , we Somalis are confident in who we are. Case and point, a Bantu trying to pretend to be Somali in order to prove how we are supposedly have much in common.


PATHETIC. GO DIE OF HIV AIDS.

Why are you here spending so much time on a forum full of Bantus? To convince us that we aren't the same/related? Okay. Wether we are kin or not doesn't matter to us. We do not try to relate so that we can elevate our own statuses because of your curly hair, receeding hairlines, small jaws and weak frames. We do it simply because we believe in unity of peoples. But you've made your point clear. You somalis are a highly tribalistic people who prefer to stick together and hold hands while discussing the good old days when you were brutal slave owners, just like the white people you want to impress so badly.

Yeah, sure... Bantus aren't confident... have you ever met us? We are some of of the most prideful people. Everything we create in our cultures becomes fashionable. Our fabrics, our slang, our dances, our music and art. Seems to me Somalis like you can only feel good by comparison to the false perceptions you have about us.