₦airaland Forum

Where's the BBC riots in Ireland against black immigrants?

kelechi50:
If that's your arguments.

Where they invisible when entering into your country, what stops your immigration office from getting rid of them staying illegally in South Africa.

What's stopping people from Sahel terrorising you? Where's your people and government?

Amovingman:
Are those foreigners in your country also commiting crimes

I put up three arguments above. I see you wanna dwell on just one.

1. Illegally staying in SAa.
2. Working without proper documents for less, hence not paying tax. This giving one an unfair advantage over locals.
3. Some commiting crimes and not being traced because they're undocumented. It's easier to arrest a local because they're on the system.

Amovingman:
Imagine how seun not allowing you south African not to use his forum how will you feel

On what basis - that we're undocumented, work illegally or commit crimes on Nairaland?

The Zimbabwean government has confirmed that more than 60 000 of its citizens have already returned home after growing anti-illegal immigration sentiment in South Africa prompted thousands of African nationals to leave the country.

The latest wave of departures came as protesters took to the streets last Tuesday to reinforce an unofficial deadline for undocumented migrants to leave.

Official figures show that authorities repatriated 11 065 Zimbabweans through joint efforts by the South African and Zimbabwean governments, while another 47 703 returned voluntarily.

Among those repatriated through the government programme, 2 449 were adult men, 2 407 were adult women and 4 955 were minors.

Zimbabwean President Emmerson Mnangagwa urged communities to welcome the returnees and said the government would support their reintegration.

“I appeal to all families and communities to exercise the true African values of compassion, love and caring for one another, more so as we welcome those returning from the diaspora. Government has put in place comprehensive programmes to ensure their seamless, safe and dignified reintegration,” Mnangagwa said.

Deputy Chief Secretary in the Office of the President and Cabinet, George Charamba, said the returnees would make a valuable contribution to the country’s economy.

“These returnees are bringing in unique skills, including in the horticulture industry. The skills that Zimbabwean returnees have are badly needed back home so Zimbabwe can meet its export quota,” Charamba told The Sunday Mail.

“They are coming back to a changed country. The economy is growing and creating new opportunities.”

Minister Ntshavheni saying it like it is🇿🇦🏆

I've always maintained that African governments will be highly embarrassed once they put this issue on the AU agenda.

IronGalaxy:
Lol, dont mind these hypocrites, they are only like this online

Wow! 😂😂😂

So it's true the most homophobic guys are the closeted ones. They fear being exposed so go to the extremes not to get exposed.

SlavaUkraini:
Continue to Cry 😭😭😭😭

Especially when your pine hole is being destroyed with a BBC

Prïçk sucker

Is this supposed to be an insult or pre-intimacy?

So Nigeria has people seeking jobs? I thought everyone was a businessman and employer over there considering you ridicule South Africans for seeking employment.

themanderon:


Harsh government intervention didn't stop people from taking drugs. A junkie will always find his way to get his fix. Train up a child in the way he should go when he grows up he won't depart from it. Till today, I dare say I don't drink neither do I smoke nor take any substances all because of the training I received from my parents and community guidance.
As for those jobs many employers complain that South Africans are very lazy and show up for work anytime they feel like and absent themselves at will. Which employer would want such sloths in his company? Even your fellow South Africans have started complaining that South Africans are not taking over the businesses being left behind by foreigners so what's the excuse this time?
You are talking about South Africa's image being dented because of unemployment but I don't think images of south Africans looting shops, attacking people they call foreigners, chasing kids from schools and chasing people out o hospitals does your image any good, in fact your image is forever damaged.

My guy parents caution against smoking and drinking alcohol but that doesn't deter kids from experimenting. The problem is the readily availability of such products. If your community is infiltrated by Nigerian drug lords who are actively pursuing kids then no parent can guard their kid 24/7. Hence the solution is to get rid of the drug lords who have the police in their pocket - which is what these protests are about.

As for employers preferring saying South Africans are lazy, it's just an excuse to hire cheap labour. Big industry in SA is run by South African employees who pitch up to work and are highly productive. Just recently SA overtook Kenya as the most competitive country in Africa. All this talk of laziness is a fairytale by people aiming to break SA law. The law states clearly that South Africans should be first preference to be hired and paid a living wage. Businesses operating out of the system do otherwise. Which is why they get looted when people protest against them to take them out of business.

Also, these undocumented migrants you're defending are breaking the law by working in non-critical sectors. The law states foreigners should be employed for critical skills unless they're refugees. Are waiters, shop attendants, truck drivers, Uber critical skills?

themanderon:
I say this because I see them blaming foreigners for selling drugs to their kids knowing fully well the criminals selling those drugs are capitalizing on the failures and inability to raise their kids properly?

Secondly, I see them complaining about foreigners taking their jobs. Isn't it a shame that foreigners come to your country with nothing and within a while they work hard and acquire properties only for your people to say they are taking jobs from them despite laying around and doing nothing?

It's crazy you guys aren't seeing the damage you are causing to your image in Africa and the entire world.

So you think SA parents don't educate their kids on the dangers of drugs? Can they be everywhere, everytime? When Nigeria had a codeine addiction pandemic was it solved by parenting or through harsh govt intervention? That's what SA people are calling for - less Nigerian drug dealers in their communities.

The issue of jobs isn't limited to spaza shops. Go to restaurants, hotels, security, trucks, farms - most industries that could be employing youth have opted to hire cheap labour instead of unionized South Africans. SA has something like 60% youth unemployment. Illegal migrants are reserving the wage gains black South Africans fought for against white capital after apartheid ended.

Having Africa's highest recorded unemployed and crime rates is also denting the country's image. These protests are aimed at addressing that and illegal migrants contribute hugely towards this.

SlavaUkraini:
Says a gay man

Continue to Cry 😭😭😭😭😭

You should check out my threads, I don't wail about being gay. You're the one who abandoned your woman and her issues to come cry here about gays.

nairalanda1:
I'm not talking about that, just saying that I don't like it when people bring in animal as 'proof' that being gay or straight is normal...or something.

LIke someone saying 'I have never seen a male dog attempt to mount another male dog' RIght, but male dogs that have mounted only female dogs also sometimes attack the puppies of nursing female dogs...so would it be ok if a man attacked a nursing mother's child...because he has never mounted another man?

See the problem.

People are different, but we aren't 'animals'.

We're on the same page 👍🏾

nairalanda1:
Using the 'gay behaviour is ok because animals do it' argument is not one i like because at the end animals do things that by human standards would amount to human rights abuses or evil behaviour.

Take dolphins. Male dolphins kill baby dolphins so that the female starts ovulating again and then they can mate with her. If a male human behaved like that to a nursing human mother, that would amount to two crimes, rape and infanticide.

(The guy you responded to has a flawed argument as well. Goats will mate with any female goat they see. That's not how gay humans behave.).

Let's all accept the world is diverse - different races, albinism, height, hair, eye color, blood type, etc...

So why can't there be different sexual preferences? Just coz something is a minority doesn't mean it's bad.

SlavaUkraini:
The very Day I see a Male Dog knacking another Male Dog....

Then I will start to understand a Man sleeping with another Man...

Any Man that is sleeping with another Man is lesser than a Goat or a Dog...

Goat and Dog get sense pass that person...

Penguins, dolphins, giraffes, sheep, flamingoes.

That's why gay men are so good looking.

themanderon:
But how can the mentality of the average South African be changed for good. I engage many on social media and I found out they have a very deep sense of entitlement, and they seem to lack the ability to take responsibility for their failures as a people. How can they be made to realize that as a human you are responsible for your actions?

What sort of examples are you talking about on taking responsibility for own failures?

Often Nigerians look out for themselves because governance is a complete failure and don't demand their rights.

In SA and many other countries people expect government to perform because what else is it's purpose?

themanderon:
By why do your people take advantage of every opportunity to loot and kill? I remember they did same during Zuma riots and also previous Xenophobic attacks?

It's a hangover from apartheid times - a strategy to make the country ungovernable and destroy white businesses back then. It's become a form of protest.

Should be arrested for employing illegal migrants to begin with.

This OP is on some serious SA decampaigning mission 👀👀👀🚮🗑️

Bafana Bafana receives a warm welcome from supporters at O.R Tambo International Airport ⚽️🔥🇿🇦#bafanabafana #bafanapride pic.twitter.com/jIiL0hygr6

— Bafana Bafana (@BafanaBafana) July 2, 2026

45% TAX

Bafana Bafana players have returned to South Africa with a big payday, thanks to their performance at the FIFA World Cup. But how much of their earnings will be taxed by SA Revenue Service (SARS)?

South Africa was knocked out by Canada in the Round of 32 on Sunday.

According to reports, Bafana Bafana players earned around 1,6 million rands ($100K) each as part of the FIFA World Cup prize money.

The figure was calculated from FIFA’s R222 million ($14M) payout, which was split into R155.4 million (70%) being allocated to SA Football Association, and the remaining R66.6 million (30%) being split amongst players.

But are the players actually millionaires, or does SARS take a big piece of their pie?

According to financial advisor Munya Shumba, the footballers could walk away with considerably less than what they were promised.

CAPTAIN RONWEN WILLIAMS PAY

On his TikTok channel, Modern Money with Munya, the expert presented the case of Bafana captain, Ronwen Williams.

As Williams is already earning six figures annually at Mamelodi Sundowns, he falls into a higher tax bracket, with every cent made above his salary being taxed at 45%.

Before SARS could get their share of his cash, players, via FIFA, must first pay 30% of the prize money to the US government as federal income tax on US-sourced earnings.

Because of SARS’s double tax treaty, it would take the balance of the 15% tax money.

Therefore, Williams could be paying as much as R480 000 in US tax and R240 000 to SARS.

This would leave him with just R880 000.

BONUS FROM DEPARTMENT OF SPORT

In addition to their FIFA prize money, Bafana players were promised an R5 million ($312K) bonus by Minister of Sport Gayton McKenzie for making it to the FIFA World Cup knockout stages.

The money will be split among the 23-man squad and will naturally be taxed by SARS.

nlfpmod

themanderon:
Wow! This is wonderful on paper, but In I see your people go around all social media platforms complaining and cussing the ANC government for failing them.
I rarely read or see anyone of them saying anything complementary about the ANC government.
It seems you are an ANC paid online agent.

😂 I'm not an agent.

Liberation movements across Southern Africa have been losing their popularity and so has the ANC, hence all the negativity in social media. The party does remain the biggest in SAa though, and as much as we complain about it there's also alot it has accomplished for the country. Lest we forget.

dominique:
There should be social welfare packages to the poor in every country but how can one differentiate the poorest of the poor from those that are just managing?

One determinant in SA is a bank account - most people are banked. Your bank balance determines if you get a grant or not. There are instances where the covid SRD grant won't be paid because there was a substantial deposit into your account that month.

Helinuse:
Deserving only because they are citizens?
Meaning you want to take cash from the people who have worked for it as tax, and hand it over to the people who haven't worked for it as social grants?

Not all government money comes from personal taxes. A society with less poverty is safer, healthier and more stable. Unless you're ok with world poverty like most African politicians.

BlocksNG:
In Nigeria, minimum wage is $40.

SA $362

EponObi:
90%+ literacy rate, only 8M out 60M are poor but you people are claiming foreigners are taking your job and violently expelling them your country, while maiming them too? What kind of mental gymnastic is that?

Yes, the anti-migration sentiment is most prominent amongst the poor because they're the ones losing out on employment because foreigners work for far less money. SA labour is unionized and we've fought for years for living wages only for undocumented immigrants to undo all those gains.

The other 60M people in SA also suffer from high crime rates exacerbated by illegal migration. Why do you think the US and Europe don't want illegal migrants? Illegal migration does lead to crime because undocumented people function outside the official system.

EponObi:
This is not the solution to their problem.

Black S/Africans just entered a vicious circle, which may be very difficult to escape.

1. (No education, won't work because of laziness, entitlement, lack of exposure) led to

2. (Drug abuse, violence, high rate of crime, hate for foreigners) led to

3. (chasing foreigners out to "claim their jobs".) led to

4. (Entitlement, approval social grant aka government handout), which will lead to

5. Way more of (No education, won't work because of laziness, entitlement, lack of exposure), which will lead to

6. More of (Drug abuse, violence, high rate of crime) which will lead to

7. More (Dangers to foreigners) to

8. More (entitlement, more demand for government handout)

What has SA government done to their people? Chai! R350 is roughly 30k naira. The drug cartels are sitting at the top of this food chain to collect these handouts. The money for the social grant will move from the taxpayers to their government to the poor to drug cartels. That's more resources for the cartel to wreck more havoc on the citizens. Omo!

You just spewed your ignorance in bold letters to the public.

SA has a 90%+ literacy rate, only 8M out of 60M+ population receive grant. The rest have their own source of income.

Here's what the black government has achieved for South Africans since 1994. Can Nigerian government compare?

You're brainwashed to believe you don't deserve anything from your oil wealth while Tinubu and his children pig out on your resources and you're left to japa to SA for a better life.

Mariangeles:
Are the "poor" disabled?
More reason not to work.

...and they claim they're not lazy.

You're very comfortable with your politicians chopping all your oil wealth for themselves.

In SA we understand our gold, platinum and diamonds belong to everyone who lives in the country, not just the 1% elite.

Why are Nigerian elites benefiting from your resources and you the common man are left to japa for a better life?

Set your brain to human default settings, MariaDevilish🤡, Arab citizens get free money for their oil, Scandinavians too. Are they also lazy?

The Department of Social Development (DSD) hopes to finalise the policy for a new Basic Income Support (BIS) grant by March 2027, getting it ready for implementation.

The BIS is the new social grant the government plans to use to replace the COVID-19 Social Relief of Distress grant, which has been extended far beyond its original intent.

The SRD grant was a R350 per month support grant, later lifted to R370, launched in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic to help qualifying South Africans weather the economic uncertainty at the time.

The department noted that the grant was only ever expected to be in effect for six months, but over 8 million recipients became dependent on the support.

The DSD characterised the billions spent on the grant as a “success” because it directly addressed poverty, noting that recipients mainly used the money to buy food, electricity, and clothing.

This, it said, then supported local economies.

“Research by multiple independent researchers also found the SRD grant to be well targeted and successful in reducing hunger, poverty and inequality while also enabling the participation of beneficiaries in job search and other economic activity,” it said.

Because of this, the national government, supported by the presidency, is moving to transform the SRD grant into a new Basic Income Support policy, which is currently being processed.

President Cyril Ramaphosa has long supported the new grant and, in his 2026 State of the Nation Address, promised that the rework of the new grant would happen this year.

Basic income grant has been a discussion in SA for years and is well on its way to implementation. Already there's a grant that started during covid lockdown that's still being paid out to millions of poor people.

These are first world issues guys - levels 🏆🇿🇦🇳🇬 🗑️

Meanwhile, protest leaders met with the president on 29 June to iron out issues.