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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by raphieMontella: 2:39pm On Sep 12, 2016
mrintellectual:
Maybe, you meant the Quran. The Bible did not in anyway tell us that some were made for hell.

However, GOD wants every sinner everywhere to REPENT.
prov16:4
mark 4:11-12
Christianity Etc › Re: Why God Allows Bad Things To Happen To Good People by raphieMontella: 1:55pm On Sep 12, 2016
hopsydboi:
Religion is anti-nature
This is why I favour some religion above Christianity. Vandata, zen Buddhism, different system of the yoga religion etc has somemore logical n reasonable answers to questions like this than hide under the skin of an "unquestionable God".

Good and evil
War and peace
Friends and enemies
Matter and antimatter
Love and hate
Etc

Nature in it characteristics is of both positive and negative, it just finds a way to balance itself.
When you speak of a supreme being that is malevolent and omnipresent, loving and kind hearted and from the bible " the plan of God for us is of good and not evil(I av forgotten d book precisely). And yet all the evil of the world happens under his watch, we need to question his claims therefore.

I would accept a "supreme nature" rather than a subprime God tho..

My opinion
i wonder if fire can exist without its adverse effects
Christianity Etc › Re: The New Atheistic Movement Is A Deceit by raphieMontella: 1:37pm On Sep 12, 2016
winner01:
I believe in the cause of the big bang.
IOW u believe in the big bang nau!
Thats a stepping stone sha..
Christianity Etc › Re: The New Atheistic Movement Is A Deceit by raphieMontella: 1:35pm On Sep 12, 2016
winner01:
Give examples of these present.
your usage of modern electronic devicess..(computer science). The mathematical brain behind it..''alan Turing''..
Christianity Etc › Re: The New Atheistic Movement Is A Deceit by raphieMontella: 12:07pm On Sep 12, 2016
winner01:
They wont understand this, they are angry.
so u now believe in the big bang?
Christianity Etc › Re: The New Atheistic Movement Is A Deceit by raphieMontella: 12:06pm On Sep 12, 2016
winner01:
It does, most of the greatest thinkers of the past were theists.
am glad you know...''past''
well welcome to the present.
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 8:42am On Sep 12, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
You are making things up. They do not permit it but they do not call it sinful.
i am not making this up sire..i wish you could ask around...they even back it up with a verse in the bible..saying its of jezebel bla bla bla..
If you can...ask..
I didnt make it up.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Jesus Doing Right Now? by raphieMontella: 8:21am On Sep 12, 2016
jesus is pro'ly smoking pot in heaven that he forgot his promise to peter..
Christianity Etc › Re: True Christians Is September Truly The End Of The World (rapture) by raphieMontella: 8:19am On Sep 12, 2016
SirWere:
How the Bleep does CERN come into all thishuh





Your grandeurs of delusions are.......fascinating.
theistic children with infantile knowledge in scientific things keep on spewing thrash..
Im not suprised..
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 7:51am On Sep 12, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Winners members accused Deeper life members of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, and vice versa? Hmmmm...You can lie ooo. When did this happen?
relax...

Deeper life member say ''female wearing of trousers,,make up etc is sinful and of the devil...says

winners say otherwise that it is not a sin..says god..

From this supposed singular dude....
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 7:35am On Sep 12, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Come to think of it: if, at any time, any man ever needed more than one wife, it would be Adam. Amid the vast forms of life which swarmed the earth: beasts and birds and fishes, Adam was the only one of His kind. Surely he needed many people to keep him company and ease boredom, no? Yet GOD in His infinite Wisdom gave Adam just one wife.

Do you think He ever had polygamy in mind for man?
the same infinite wisdom that made him not create another man so as to avoid incest is the same wisdom here...
At best it can tell us that he doesnt approve of man-to-man other than polygamy
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 7:21am On Sep 12, 2016
DoctorAlien:
NO! Exodus 21:10 doesn't say you can take a man's wife while the man is alive, and so GOD was speaking through Paul.
10 If he marries again, her food, clothing, and privilege as a wife shall he not diminish[/quote]note the words in blue...and tell me how this would be made if it were to apply to a man who's wife is dead
I quoted 1 Cor.7:30 because I was adressing the fact that David took over Saul's house and wives.
39 A wife is bound [to her husband by law] as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to
marry whomever she wishes, only [provided that
he too is] in the Lord.
This doesnt condemn polygamy now..three women can be bound to one man...
I just need a bible verse that says men are not allowed to marry more than one wives
and by the way..david had about 7 legal wives aside the one's given to him by yahweh..
BTW..if yahweh was against this...why didnt he say something about it to moses?..who he gave numerous laws..
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 1:01am On Sep 12, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Deut. 21:15 doesn't say "thou shalt take unto thee more than one wife" does it? As a matter of fact, the verse begins with "if" -- "if it happens that a man takes two wives..." GOD was giving guidelines in that verse as to how a man is the treat the offspring of his wives.
15 “If a man has two wives, one loved and the other [a]unloved, and both the loved and the unloved have born him sons, and the firstborn son
belongs to the unloved wife,[/quote]he doesnt condemn it here..but it seems to say a man is free to take more than one wife..like the exodus verse gave...also moses who supposedly wrote these books had two wives..
Now, a man can never take another man's wive as long as that man is alive, because a woman is not free as long as her husband is alive. However, she is free if her husband is dead. (1 Cor. 7:39)
exod 21:10 says the opposite of this on the condition he feeds her well
..or are paul's words greater than yahweh's
Notice that GOD handed over Saul's household and his wives to David after Saul's death? Notice also that David took Bethsheba only after Uriah's death.
moses had two wives...abraham had 3...israel had four...
What happened to those guys?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian God(yahweh)supports Polygamy,,how Is This Moral? by raphieMontella(op): 12:50am On Sep 12, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
I'm already researching on polygamy in the bible and had planned to create a thread on it
.
nice thread BTW
polygamists in the bible are countless
ive noticed that one can find almost anything he wants in the bible
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian God(yahweh)supports Polygamy,,how Is This Moral? by raphieMontella(op): 12:49am On Sep 12, 2016
EyeHateGod:
Nice thread!
Ty
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 12:44am On Sep 12, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Who told you these things. Are you making things up again?
lol u ehn..
Ok deeper life and living faith(winners)
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 12:39am On Sep 12, 2016
DoctorAlien:
The bolded part: How?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Epistle_to_Timothy
2 Sam 12:8 "I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom..."

It simply means GOD gave David control over everything that belonged to Saul.
control over women in what way exactly?
Polygamy was already in practice, and David took Bethsheba, Uriah's wife too. Was that GOD's plan for him? No.[/quote]i dont understand..
Yahweh affirmed his statement in deut 21:15..
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 12:16am On Sep 12, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
I am not sure I understand you. How do you know what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is to know who has blasphemed and who hasn't?
lol..
One said the holy spirit told them they are correct..and doing of something else is wrong and inevitably leads to hell..
The other says the opposite in the name of that same holy spirit..
U catch?
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 12:03am On Sep 12, 2016
DoctorAlien:
GOD was never, is never, and will never be in support of polygamy.

True, many of GOD's people were polygamists, but it doesn't mean that was GOD's plan for them.

First, GOD knows one woman is enough for a man, and so He created only Eve for Adam. He knows what is best for us.

And to show his disapproval of polygamy, GOD says that the position of a bishop in the church must never be occupied by a polygamist. (1 Tim. 3:2)
really?
I hope you know timothy is a forgery in the name of paul..and moses exodus is directly from yahweh?
Abouts god support of polygamy...he clearly said he gave david wives 2sam 12:8..
Whats your take?
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 11:51pm On Sep 11, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Well, Sunday is not and has never been the right day of worship according to the Bible. Saturday is.
well do you accept polygamy? Exodus 21:10
Christianity Etc › Re: The Christian God(yahweh)supports Polygamy,,how Is This Moral? by raphieMontella(op): 11:44pm On Sep 11, 2016
AnonyNymous:
Simple grin the old testament 'doesn't apply anymore' (except when it comes to paying tithes)
yes that tithe...its really precious
Christianity Etc › Re: The New Atheistic Movement Is A Deceit by raphieMontella: 11:43pm On Sep 11, 2016
EyeHateGod:
raphieMontella u should have known Kingebukablogs by Now Na The nigga is Ignorant i wonder if it is short memory span he has he tends to forget things easily
lol
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 11:39pm On Sep 11, 2016
DoctorAlien:
Yes, by the grace of GOD.
ok..why do you say the rest are doomed?
I heard the calender shifted bla bla bla..that sunday is still the right 7th day..
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 11:38pm On Sep 11, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
The average Christian will tell you that Christianity is not really about the church or the denomination but each person's personal relationship with God. Have you considered the possibility that the differences you observe might just be expressions of their different levels of relationship with God? Or do you have the same relationship with everyone you know?
true..indeed that would then account for all round miracle claims of this same spirit

But in the case then they blaspheme against the ''holy spirit'' which is supposed to be an unforgivable sin..as this same ''spirit guide'' cannot tell another that another view would lead to ''hell''..and that they are the only ''true'' ones..
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 11:35pm On Sep 11, 2016
DoctorAlien:
The Seventh-day Adventist Church.
hmm..is that your church?
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 11:34pm On Sep 11, 2016
AnonyNymous:
His church.
lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: The New Atheistic Movement Is A Deceit by raphieMontella: 11:31pm On Sep 11, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
lmao . Atheists read random books and regurgitate on Nairaland just to appear smart . We Christians are way superior in logic and reasoning . They are no match apparently . Sometimes it feels like you are discussing with a toddler lipsrsealed .
KingEbukasBlog:
Where was the claim ?
Christianity Etc › Re: The New Atheistic Movement Is A Deceit by raphieMontella: 11:11pm On Sep 11, 2016
winner01:
No. So what do you want me to do? undecided
The Bible and its events reflect the supernatural.
thank you! kingebukasblog claimed higher logical abilities stems from theism..
Christianity Etc › Re: The New Atheistic Movement Is A Deceit by raphieMontella: 10:59pm On Sep 11, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
lmao . Atheists read random books and regurgitate on Nairaland just to appear smart . We Christians are way superior in logic and reasoning . They are no match apparently . Sometimes it feels like you are discussing with a toddler lipsrsealed .
please can you tell us whats logical in a talking snake?
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 10:53pm On Sep 11, 2016
DoctorAlien:
The fact that many factions exist within Christianity was clearly prophesied by the Bible.

Among all those churches you listed, there is only one that abides strictly by the Bible.
raphieMontella:
true on the society claim..but on the society..these various views are due to various ''human'' minds...
In christianity..t's said to be a relationship with ''God'' and his supernatural ''spirit'' guides christians...
Funny enough..most of these denominations can back up their claims with portions of the precious ''bible''..
So what im concerned is...how can this singular source ''holy spirit'' be so much diverse in its needs...
and that true church is?
Christianity Etc › Re: The War Against Christianity....by Christians by raphieMontella(op): 10:50pm On Sep 11, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
*Let me play advocate*... Capitalists, socialists, communists,nationalists, fascists, etc disagree on how a society should make progress; does this mean a society cannot make progress? Christians denominations disagree on a whole lot of issues; but they all agree on one thing; belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus as the sole requirement for salvation. All other things are just, well, other things.
true on the society claim..but on the society..these various views are due to various ''human'' minds...
In christianity..t's said to be a relationship with ''God'' and his supernatural ''spirit'' guides christians...
Funny enough..most of these denominations can back up their claims with portions of the precious ''bible''..
So what im concerned is...how can this singular source ''holy spirit'' be so much diverse in its needs...
Christianity Etc › The Christian God(yahweh)supports Polygamy,,how Is This Moral? by raphieMontella(op): 10:42pm On Sep 11, 2016
In the Bible..Yahweh gave us some certain laws about Marriage and polygamy..
Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many
he can marry..

.In Deuteronomy 21:15 "If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear
him sons.....

.
Isaiah 4:1 Seven Women shall take hold of One Man(this may not be literal but it does show yahweh had no shvt with polygamous views).

.
Yahweh himself ordained ''Wives'' for his servant(s)David
8 I gave you his kingdom and his wives; I made you king
over Israel and Judah. If this had not been enough,
I would have given you twice as much.-2 Samuel 12:8
.

.
Famous Polygamists in The Bible.
.In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David,,''A man after Yahweh's own heart'' had six wives and numerous concubines..


.In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines...

..In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon's son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines...

.
Gen 16:1,3 Gen 25:1 Abraham;Faithful friend of God and father of the Hebrew nation-3 Wives.

.
In Gen 29:23,28 Gen30:4,9 Jacob,;A prince of God ''Israel'' had four wives.

.
In Exodus 18:1-6 Numbers 12:1 Moses One who the few people who supposedly saw ''Yahweh's face and lived'' had 2 wives.

..

.
"There are a lot more verses from the Old Testament
that allow polygamy, but I think that the above are
sufficient enough to prove my point...Today christians strongly refuse the idea of polygamy and deem it a ''sin'' in the eyes of this same ''Yahweh'' who doesnt change..
So whats my point?
This makes it quite evident that marriage laws and customs in the bible are a reflection of societal morals at that time..not a ''God's law''..This is another proof that Morality Evolves and is not from this ''yahweh'' dude..

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