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So AW should stop complaining about disrespect just because some Gooners up their are telling him the home truth that he blew our chances of winning any silverware this term.

I think he should just get a very neat jotter and a good pen and start writing down the names of players to be offloaded (enough of those his needless swan song about the need to protect the players from losing their self esteem)and world class replacements he MUST buy in the summer for us to be able to compete effectively for silverware next term.

However of all the players beign touted to be within AW's sight,I don't think we need sunderland's Kenwyne Jones.Portsmouth’s Croatian star Niko Kranjcar whom he admitted to be a great fan of and for whom he was reported to be lining up a £15million move is okay.
Finally,despite his recent statement that he was not planning to swoop on David Villa,AW has always admitted his admiration for the Valencia striker.So the rumour that AW is planning a GBP25m move for him is good news,I only hope the Ijebu man will not let his infamous Wengernomics make the whole thing to fall through

@ JUnit,

Even Peter Hill-Wood two days back admitted that he might lose Flamini to Juventus on a free transfer.
Recall that before then it was just "speculation" whether Flamsters would leave or not.
In my opinion,Flamster and Fab4 should not be on anything less than GBP70k per week.If AW is not ready to pay them such amount then how will he get the other world class players we have been yearning for as none of them will settle for anything less than the above amount

Soup wey sweet na money kill am

Ordinarily,when there are talks about a player heading for another club,chances are if the player feels everything is right @ his present club,he'd sacrifice whatever incentive the new club is offering.Why are we not seeing this in the case of Flamini?now Hleb?

AW is a great manager/coach,but I can't say the same of him as a leader cos management is doing things right(coaching the team on tip tap footie); leadership is doing the right things(climbing down from your olympian heights of no-buying-of-players) to see the need to buy quality players to beef up the squad and place them in a better stead to compete.
We all have seen what the massive injection of quality players did for Mourinho in Chelski and we see what it's doing for Ferguson in Manure and Ottmar Hitzfeld ofBayern Munchen this season
Benjamin Disraeli once remarked;I must follow the people,are my not their leader?

beginner:
Fatherof2

This GTB wait dey tire me o. I need to move the money to some other banking stocks except they do 1 for 1. I hope all is well with this bank o - overload dey there.

Patience my friend is a virtue you need in heavy doses not only for GTB stocks but for ALL stocks on the NSE @ least till around July/Aug when more companies are expected to have released more of thneir results and this budget that took ages to be signed into law would hopefully have stimulated the economy a bit

Has it ever occured to AW that it's very possible there's some bottled-up discontent amongst his wards (I mean the quality players and not those I consider as surplus to requirement)arising principally from his inability to beef up the squad and put the players in a better position to compete for laurels?

Lafarge Wapco is planning a hybrid offering to raise 75 billion naira.
Further details on the proposed hybrid offer of the company may come out b/4 or during its AGM slated for May 23, 2008 in Lagos Nigeria.

Lovers of P.O's,get ready

@ Harrisoft

Personally,I'm not doing anything short term now (Dunlop inclusive)except of course those stocks that we already have their FYE results and know what they're paying per dividend and warrant.Just my thoughts

Why Barca why?

Fof2,easi,pumping

Do you know the payment date for Oando bonus.Why are they keeping the date under wraps?
I'm taking serious aim @ them and UBA,but I need to know the Oando payment date so I can plot my move in

debenzd:
I feel your pain. Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do for now. CAPOIL is on full suspension so you can't even trade.

Be patient and see what comes out of the investigation.

Nothing will happen.Capoil will be given a clean bill of health;IN DUE TIME
After the concerned board members of Capoil must have pressed all the real and imaginary buttons
The regulators will just wait till the tension has died down a bit,then do what I think they'll do
Investigations have a way of turning out like that,c'mon this' the NSE and SEC we're talking of here

easimoni:
BOTH! The NSE/SEC forbid it because we can't yet handle it. There are plans to intoduce options in the "near" future.

Forget it easi,there's not a chance in hell for shorting of stocks on the NSE,even if SEC approves of it,the brokers may not be favourably disposed to such a "risky" idea.At least not in your "near"future,you should know that when these administrators speak of near future,it more often than not means in thirty years time or more.
Have you ever wondered why most brokers will not give their customers marging facilities,even when the margin being sought represents less than 20% of the customers portfolio with the broker.
So if they wont use your holding with them as collateral to give margin,why do you think they'll be disposed to shorting allowing you sell what you don't have

The federal government is taking an official position on the issue

Yar'Adua orders probe of British Airways incident
From Madu Onuorah, Abuja

PRESIDENT Umaru Musa Yar'Adua has directed the Minister of State for Transportation (Aviation), Mr Felix Hyatt, to begin an urgent investigation into a March 27, 2008 incident in which British Airways (BA) allegedly ordered more than 100 Nigerians off its London to Lagos flight "for protesting against the brutal treatment of a deportee aboard."

Yar'Adua, who is in Germany for a medical review, asked Hyatt to take all necessary measures and protect "the travelling public from the humiliation they face daily from foreign airlines."

A source told The Guardian that the President had seen reports of the incident from the British media, expressing "disgust" at the "seeming non-chalant attitude of BA officials."

He, therefore, directed that since the minister has not forwarded any report of the incident to his office, he should be formally written to investigate the incident and report back to him.

The source added: "The President is said to be concerned by the recent resurgence of complaints about the poor treatment, discrimination and downright abuse meted out to Nigerians by some foreign airlines operating in the country.

"The President has also directed the minister to make it absolutely clear to all foreign airlines operating in Nigeria that under no circumstance will his administration tolerate the subjection of Nigerian passengers to less than acceptable standards of treatment."

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/news/article03//indexn2_html?pdate=230408&ptitle=Yar'Adua%20orders%20probe%20of%20British%20Airways%20incident

candylips:
Yes . lets say i think a particular stock is overvalued and i think the value would go down. I will like to short(sell) the stock at the higher price and buy it back at the lower price to take in my profit. But since i don't have the stock i will need to borrow it for sale

You may need to explain how it's possible for you to sell shares you don't have in the first place.I dont know of any broker that does that in Nigeria

Iwerebor:
Results, rumors, news, profit taking, government policy etcr will only CAUSE either of this: BUYING or SELLING. Don't trade if your knowledge of economics excludes the law of demand and supply.

Nothing dirves prices on the NSE as much as rumors,quite unusually

tkb417:
. Rubbish club, rubbish league, rubbish players/coach, rubbish fans.

Ah ah bros,na so the mata bad reach?

Of all the players that featured for Chelski yesterday,my favorite was that guy with orange hair,
what's his name again?
Yea John A Riise

dayokanu:
@Jackal,
Your analysis betrays your brain power. You make morons look like Einstein.

You're spot on Dayo
At times I wonder whether Chajackal really listens to himself.
The only sorry case on the sports thread,Jackal

Wise words Nwando from you to re-loaded.Hell hole ko hole hell ni
Na there Aliko Dangote dey live oooo
If to say the guy stand well well and trust imself as far as doing something useful with his life IN NIGERIA,e for no dey scream as if dem wan cut im throat

Talking about that "shelltox" spray thingy,why is it more rampant on out-bound flights from Nigeria.Are the airlines trying to say that TB is made in Nigeria.I thought it was mostly the white man's ailment.Airfrance is the worst in this regard.
Abi the thing na jazz wey the passengers go inhale and e go make dem come back to use the airline again?
Una tink say oyibo man no get juju

By the way,did you guys hear Senderos go on and on about his love for basketball and how it's a family tradition,why did he not opt for it instead of choosing football and ending up a Gunner,causing us all those his wahala for crying out loud

romeo:
Abeg make una no dey fly BA, we get VN to patronise!!!

Virgin what?
BA is still the best to me on the LAGOS-LONDON-LAGOS route
If na one of the American airlines for yankee,d matter for worse

Lest I forget,can't wait till dress-down Friday.Gotta wear my Arsenal Jersey to the office today,and if those my manscum fan staff try same,hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

ajadrage:
up chelsea ooops gunners

[From starcom base station to Social deviants. Mallam/Aboki look jack of all trade no dey master anyffin]

@ Presidull (still waiting for you to give me a reason to address you otherwise)

Your inference above is ridiculously flawed.So just because you learnt I went to the northern region to build base stations,that makes me a Northerner eh?duhhhh.So anytime I go to Ogun State to do same or SA to buy towers and the UK to buy transmission equipment,I will severally be a Yoruba man,a South African and a Briton abi?Yea right

Listen pal,I truly like you,ok?Whether you wish to admit it or not,I know I'm one of your idols/role models on this thread ,what with the way you monitor my posts on any and every thread on nairaland,plus the way you're trying so hard to upgrade 

Honestly you come across to me as,mmmmm yea,not a bad guy really,just that you pick the wrongest formats to seek my attention,so next time you wish to seek my attention please do it sensibly.

BR

How come nobody is saying anything about the  game tagainst reading?
The title may have been lost,but that does not mean we should no longer root for our darling club.

Personally,this season has tuned out to be the worst from me,locally and internationally.I grew up supporting Bendel Insurance (now Insurance F.C of Benin aka Benin Arsenal),today the team lies @ the bottom of the Globacom league,facing relegation.So what?been an "up bendel" for too long to jump ship now.

How much more when it has to do with the club that is the envy of all others in Europe and beyond,Arsenal of course (trophy or no trophy),I don't know about you guys but I'm rooting for my beloved London Gunners,the free flowing,beautiful football playing ARSENAL

GO ARSENAL

yea I'm back from taking care of more serious business

@ Presidull

Couldn't reply earlier.But good to know you're using the terms I taught you.
Whoever said free education couln't be efficacious

@ Jackal

Don't mess with me boy.

Reminder;without sounding immodest,it's obvious you and I don't belong in the same league
As one far out of your ill-trained and mannerless league (pardon me but this' very obvious)
I would be belittling myself if I condescend to trading gutter language with you,though I have ways of calculatedly responding to your tantrums,this is the best way for me to get additional material for a particular thesis I'm working on about social deviants.

Thought you'd learnt your lesson when you came back from re-hab(went in as chacal got discharged as jackal)'talking about jackal,must you behave like one?Not that I'm really complaining as you are giving me free profiling material.

Please don't stop,just don't be physically violent.I still need you.

PS:There're some relevant personal questions I'd like to ask you,I'll get them in due course,so bring it on for now.

Jackal.:
Arsene Wenger will not change his stand. . . . . He is French and they can be very proud.

Hmmmmmmmmm.That's fallacy of hasty generalisation(even if in this case you may not be entirely incorrect),but it's not really your problem whether he changes his stance or not.
Last time I checked,you were a Man u fan,so stop trying to be more catholic than the Pope

presido1:
We should beg Fargie and his Army to join La Liga so that other clubs like Ass will have the

You must be feeling very happy with yourself now,right
By the way who's Fargie?

topeorekoy:
@jackal,

AW is just making me sick, he shld better sign people rather than sign only a goal keeper.

I think he said that in the spur of the moment not wanting to be seen to be capitulating to pressure from all fronts to storm the market for players.I'm sure he'll have a rethink in order not to vindicate those that presently see him as an unrepentant ,incorrigible and proud man.

alliednetw:
Maclaize is good

I didn't want to compound their problems by going into details,so please don't come here and tell us that they are good.You know that's not true

@ Iwerebor (F.A or H.C ? )

Anyway,this the link to NSE daily stock update

http://www.nigeriansecurities.com/dailyposition.php#

MOBIL RESULTS

TURN OVER N54.54BN
PAT N1.13BN
PROPOSED BONUS ISSUE =1 for 4
PROPOSED DIVIDEND =N4.70
Hmmmmmm,not bad for a company that posted a marginal dip in profit.Unfortunately moi is not STRATEGICALLY POSITIONED to partake of the above goodies


TOTAL RESULTS

TURN OVER N137.34BN
PAT N3.25BN
PROPOSED FINAL DIVIDEND =N6.40 (to bring it to a total of N9.50 when you add the N3.10 they paid last November)
NO BONUS (last bonus was in 2004 I think)

Well,at all at all na winch,so na God say man pikin hold small ground for here

Bottom line
If monsieur Wenger does not offload all the offloadables and buy amongts others
A quality centre back
An additional quality midfielder
And a world class goal poacher,then he's not ready to end the trophy drought @ The Emirates

Q.E.D

Culled from Tunji Bee's write up

The answer to these questions does not lie on any referee’s decisions working against the team as Manager Arsene Wenger wants the world to believe. It lies in Mr. Arsene Wenger himself and his idealistic fixation with pacy entertainment football built around youthful and skilful players competing at the highest level on a balanced budget. There was actually a precedent for Wenger to follow. The great Ajax team of early to mid 90s that dominated the Dutch League in Europe and won the champions league was a team whose players’ average age was 19 years old. With the exception of Frank Rijkaard who is coaching Barcelona today, some of its best players such as Clarence Seedorf, Nwankwo Kanu, Patrick Kluivert and Edgar Davids are still playing for top European clubs till today. When Sir Alex Ferguson tried to experiment it with Manchester United in 1997, he went home that season trophyless. The following season he infused experienced players and by 1999, he won a treble. Unfortunately for Wenger, the reality of today has made his ideal unworkable. Globalisation has caught up with football. Great clubs are no longer national but international. The super money-men produced by globalisation era has come to see football particularly the premiership, as a super vehicle for the propagation of their global business empires and have thus begun to take over, buying not only top clubs, but buying up the best players in the world. In England, when Mr. Roman Abrahamnovich first came to upset the balance of premiership power by buying Chelsea, no one took notice until he bought Coach Jose Mourinho. Mourinho went on buying spree and bought some of the best players in the world and both his first and reserve team became loaded. Before the boards of both Arsenal and Manchester United would realise it, he had won the league in two successive seasons. In the following year of 2006-2007, Sir Alex Ferguson of Man U, knew he had a big fight in his hand, he responded well and strengthened his team with Vidic, Evra and Carrick. Result: he won the premiership. This season too, he strengthened the team further with Nani, Hargreaves, Tevez, and Anderson. Similarly, Liverpool got taken over by American tycoons and the coach responded spending big to bring some Europe’s best players such as Fernando Torres, Ryan Babel, Benayoun, Voronin among others. Only Mr. Wenger refused to respond to this reality believing that his nurturing of fresh talents and playing some magnificent football would make him compete better. He calls it “sticking to our belief”.
Mr. Wenger’s experience reminds me of the colour revolution which THISDAY Newspaper unleashed on the media in late 90s. When the paper started publishing in colour, the rest of the media industry saw it as a flash in the pan. It was not meant to last, as cost-wise, it could not be sustained. So the other newspapers thought. I remember then as an editor of National Concord, a paper that was then Nigeria’s largest circulating, I joined in taking the colour revolution for granted. A little over a year later, it suddenly dawn on us all that newspaper readers were already ahead of us in colour acceptability and were willing to pay for it and we all began to join THISDAY in the new era. It was a glaring example of how those with technical skill in a chosen field can sometimes get consumed by their expertise to the extent that they cannot read the mood of their consumers. I believe strongly that this is one major dilemma for Arsene Wenger. We now have a situation where Arsenal teeming followers worldwide are seeing a different picture from what the coach sees on a daily basis. You only needed to read the comments about Arsenal’s exit in foreign papers and on the web to see that they have all come to one conclusion. And that is this: Mr. Wenger must stop his endless nurturing of players and buy quality and experienced players in order to compete well and win trophies. Three years of trying to build a great team solely on youthful talents who refuse to imbibe hard winning mentality has produced no result. It’s time to allow conventional wisdom to prevail. After all, other clubs too have academies. Of all the four top teams in the premiership, Arsenal is the weakest in terms of depth of players and having options in matches. And the result shows. Only Arsenal of the big four has lost to all the three others at crucial matches.
Fans love the way Arsenal play and they pray for that brand of magnificent football to continue, but style alone won’t bring in rewards unless, the team is injected with experienced quality players. Imagine if Arsenal had players of Dimitar Berbatov or Eto’o or Wayne Rooney with the tens of chances its brand of football creates in every match, Arsenal would have long rapped up the season. Today’s Wenger’s boys lack killer instincts, lose concentration when it matters most and some of their defending are repetitively appaling. “Defence” as the saying goes in football, “win trophies, while attack win matches”. Mr. Wenger has never taken to this belief, which explains why the champions league has eluded him in his eleven years stay at Arsenal. Only Arsene Wenger will keep experimenting inconsistently disastrous Philip Senderos and Pascal Cygan for years. Only Mr. Wenger will parade school boy defenders like Justin Hoyte and Traore as alternatives to superlative Sagna and Clichy against killer instincts of Berbatov and Keane of Tottenham, Rooney and Nani of Man U. William Gallas and Kolo Toure have no able replacements hence overworked and liable to silly mistakes.
In the midfield, once Flamini, Cesc Fabregas, Hleb, Rosicky are injured, Arsenal can’t move ball again. They lost to Middlesbrough and was only lucky against Aston Villa on this count. Once Flamini becomes injured, the holding midfield collapses as it clearly showed against Liverpool during the last championship match when he caught an ankle injury. His replacement, Gilberto had given his best days two seasons ago and has become so slow unable to cope with the pace of English football any longer. An attack built on Adebayor has proven to be unreliable because Adebayor converts only one tenth of his chances. Many of his other strikers such as Van Persie and Rosicky are too injury prone to the extent that every half-season is spent in the treatment room. Strikers or attacking midfielders such as Bentdner or Emmanuel Eboue are too average and unpolished to produce first class performances when needed.
Mr. Wenger’s problem is not really money. Twice, he has refused to spend 70 million pounds given to him by the board preferring to stick with his lean but not wholly quality team. This is why his best players are over-worked and tire out when it matters most. The great coach must now begin to spend big to complement his alluring style of play. He must not shy away from competing for the best players in the market all because of price. He lost Ronaldo, Torres, Michael Essien, Didier Drogba, Berbatov, Makelele among others for this reason. Next season for fans must be dramatically different. They are tired of Senderos, Gilberto, Lehmahn, Emmanuel Eboue and Nicklas Bentdner who are always out of pace when it matters most. Let Hoyte and Traore seek more maturity elsewhere so they can horne their skill playing regularly. The team needs a minimum of six world class players to meet the club’s ambition. Emmanuel Adebayor needs competition to master the art of scoring from the likes of Eto’o or Berbatov as well as serve as a relief from injury-proned Van Persie. Both Flamini and Fabregas need players of equal standing to compete with them in midfield. Two top class alternate central defenders as well as one-wing back are too essential for future success. Some top class English players can no longer be ignored. Arsene Wenger’s team must also learn to keep concentration throughout matches. They must not just win beautifully, but must also be able to win ugly against small teams such as Middlesbrough, Birmingham, Wigan, and Sunderland who often put nine men behind the balls against Arsenal. That is what makes a champion.
But I can bet it that Mr. Wenger will not change except his hands are forced by the owners. To say his three-year experiment has blown up like that is to injure his belief and ego. And if Arsenal board cannot tame him, then the ultimate is the hostile take over by the Russian hawk.