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EducationNigerians Have Highest Level Of Education In The US – Survey by Raymond4kc(op): 1:31am On Mar 20, 2012
Nigerians have highest level of education in the US – Survey
March 20, 2012 by Olabisi Deji-Folutile Leave a Comment

Nigerian immigrants have the highest levels of education in Houston and in the United states of America in general, surpassing whites and Asians, according to a Census data bolstered by an analysis of 13 annual Houston-area surveys, the Houston Chronicle reports.

Experts claim this could be the result of Nigeria’s free education policy at the primary, secondary and tertiary levels, particularly in public schools.

David Olowokere, originally from Nigeria and the Chairman of Texas Southern University’s Department of Engineering Technologies, told Casimir that holding a Master’s degree just wasn’t good enough for his people back home. So he got a doctorate. His wife, Shalewa Olowokere, is a civil engineer and holds a Master’s degree.

According to a 2006 American Community Survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau, 17 per cent of all Nigerians in the US hold a Master’s degree, four per cent hold a doctorate and 37 per cent have a bachelor’s degree. In comparison, eight per cent of the white population in the U.S. hold a Master’s degrees, one per cent hold a doctorate and 19 per cent have a bachelor’s degrees.

The Nigerian numbers are strikingly high, Roderick Harrison told Casimir. He is a demographer at the Joint Centre for Political and Economic Studies, a Washington D.C. think-thank that specialises in researching black issues.

However, Stephen Klineberg, a Sociologist at Rice University who conducts the annual Houston Area Survey, suspects the percentage of Nigerian immigrants with post-graduate degrees is higher than the Census data shows.

According to the latest Census data there are more than 12,000 Nigerians in Houston. This is a figure sociologists and Nigerian community leaders say is a gross undercount, as they believe the number is closer to 100,000.

Out of all the Nigerian immigrants Kleinberg reached in his random phone surveys in 1994 through 2007—a total of 45 households—40 per cent of them told him they had post-graduate degrees.

The reasons Nigerians have more post-graduate degrees than any other racial or ethnic group is largely due to the Nigerian society’s emphasis on mandatory and free education, Casimir reports.

Giving reasons for this trend, the Vice-Chancellor, University of Ilorin, Prof. Ishaq Oloyede, explained that what was being witnessed in the US was a reflection of what was happening in Nigeria.

According to him, Nigeria has sufficient number of people with higher degrees at home given its status as the largest nation on the African continent.

And since education is an international commodity, he said that the excess supply often migrate to other parts of the world in search of greener pasture. He told THE PUNCH on the telephone that, “Nigeria has the highest number of the good just as well as the bad. At home, we don’t value what we have. That is why these people go abroad. A lot of these people want to come back home but they find it difficult to do so.”

On the implication of having highly qualified Nigerians in the US when there is gross scarcity of lecturers in Nigerian universities for instance, the VC said not everyone with a doctorate degree was necessarily qualified to be a good teacher in Nigeria.

He said, “It does not follow that if they come back to Nigeria that they will get good jobs. We have to do a thorough need analysis. Are these people qualified in the appropriate disciplines where we need lecturers in Nigeria? Those are the issues. So it may be convenient for these people to stay where they are.’’

The Vice-Chancellor, Federal University, Ndufu-Alike, Ebonyi State, Prof. Oye Ibidapo-Obe, said the population of Nigeria could be a major factor.

“Nigeria has the second largest population of blacks in the world. When a country is overpopulated, there is every tendency for people to migrate,’’ he said.

Ibidapo-Obe, a former Vice-Chancellor of the University of Lagos added, “Secondly, the economic situation of the country is another factor. Our economy cannot be compared to that of the United States and people are in search of good facilities and an economy that is up and going.”

There is brain-drain; students want a university that has an up-to-date equipment and facilities in place.

“Let’s face it, the education facilities in Nigerian universities are inferior to that of the US. Also, the level of preparation in terms of the rigour that goes on in Nigerian universities is very low. Students are trained to know what is in the book. The practical area is low,” he explained

Source: http://www.punchng.com/education/nigerians-have-highest-level-of-education-in-the-us-survey/
RomanceRe: Marriage To Uneducated Girl (advantages And Disadvantages) by Raymond4kc: 8:16pm On Feb 13, 2012
My friend,

We can give you loads and loads of disadvantages and even more reasons why you should not consider her at all. But I tell you one thing, no MAN BORN OF A WOMAN CAN TELL YOU WHO IS THE BEST WIFE FOR YOU, All we do is what I call - surmising.  Being educated does not mean that you will make a good wife and vice versa.

Ask yourself this question, WILL I STILL LOVE THIS LADY IN THE NEXT TWENTY YEARS IF CHRIST TARRIES, If you have good relationship with God the father, this is time to consult him and seek His face for He is the only one that knows your tomorrow. But if not, you can still initiate a relationship with him today. In any case, I wish you the best in your search for this missing rib.

This is my humble admonition.
FamilyAa+aa Must Always Have A Set Of Male Kids Or Set Of Female Kids, How True ? by Raymond4kc(op): 2:58am On Jan 26, 2012
A friend told me that if a man with genotype AA gets married to a woman with AA, they will end up having a set of male kids through out OR a set of female kids through out, NO MIX SEX. Please, could somebody help me scrutinize the validity of this information.
EducationRe: Let's Slove Mathematics! (any Maths Question, Any Topic) by Raymond4kc: 5:53am On Dec 15, 2011
Gakin95:
Let's c who solves this.  1) F= e logxlogy (exponential logxlogy). Find fxy and fyx.
2) Toyin said d equations below are functionally dependent. Is she correct? Proof with workings. w1= xbyc (i.e x with power b and y with power c)
    w2= blogx+clogy.
Observe first that: (Regarding the first problem).

fsad0,infinity)x(0,infinity)----->(0,infinity)
               (x,y)---->e^(lnx.lny)

Now, f is a continuous map and so f_xy=f_yx.

Hence, f_xy = (f/xy)[1+lnx.lny].

Problem 2: Is not that clear, please get the question well posed. I hope this helps.
Christianity EtcRe: The Pastors I Respect Most In Nigeria. by Raymond4kc(op): 2:13am On Feb 11, 2010
Oh men and brethren, This doesn't call for any quarrel among us. I just said my mind. Notice that I am not saying that those are the only men of God around, there are lot more. When I say that I respect those pastors , I don't mean that I am worshiping them and I don't own any man any apology to say that becos I mean what I said. May God open our eyes the more to the truth.

God bless us !
EducationRe: Mathematics Versus Law by Raymond4kc: 3:32am On Nov 26, 2009
Noble mm:
I think maths is simpler because it follows a definite and systematic pattern which leads to one answer or solution.Thats why it is used as tool by scientists and engineers to provide solution to problems that face mankind.But law is all about logical and illogical arguments which solves no problems but confuses pple.
What level of mathematics are u talking about ? Mathematical Logic is more Delicate to handle. If u can not win a case in the mathematical court, then , u can not prove any theorem. Mathematics is all about ARGUMENT BASE ON LOGICS. So u have not given a good premises to debunk the fact that mathematics is more DIFFICULT but (I think) LAW is more voluminous.
EducationRe: Mathematics Versus Law by Raymond4kc: 3:29pm On Nov 25, 2009
To add to my earlier comment , I think when we talk about difficulty , we mean the discipline that is more involving to understand .Do u know that it can take U A WHOLE YEAR TO UNDERSTAND JUST A PAGE OF MATHEMATICAL LITERATURE (EVEN IF U ARE DOING MATHEMATICS IN ANY LEVEL). It is imperative to note that a GOOD MATHEMATICIAN CAN DO ANY COURSE IN THE GLOBE PROVIDED HIS MIND IS INTO IT, BUT THE CONVERSE IS NOT NECESSARILY TRUE.  I want to tell u that mathematics in  SECONDARY SCHOOL (SSCE/JAMB) , as far as am concern, is not MATHEMATICS AT ALL.  When u come to what mathematics is all about, MY FRIEND, IF U NO TAKE TIME, U GO WOUND OOOO.

Tell me , what is difficult in Law, u can only say that u have a lot of things to cover not that is difficult. If u tell me that u have a lot of material to cover than mathematics, then I can be tempted to agree but not to say that  is difficult. IS NOT DIFFICULT WHEN COMPARED TO MATHEMATICS.

I rest my case here.
EducationRe: Mathematics Versus Law by Raymond4kc: 4:13am On Nov 25, 2009
Friends, is only one that has done mathematics in school will tell u that mathematics is not difficult (when I say mathematics, I don't mean , arithmetic u do in high/secondary school). May  be u want to rate the difficulty of mathematics base on what u have done in secondary school,  OHHH , come on, mathematics is MORE THAN THAT.

Now when we talk about mathematics, we have many areas. Consider the PURE mathematics that deals with complete abstraction (IS JUST LIKE SERVING GOD AND BELIEVING THAT GOD EXIST), u need what I call the mathematical FAITH to do that , ability to think outside the BOX and look beyond the sky. All these u do in an abstract setting. Law is a complete applied act, u see what is obtainable in the society and tow your premises in other to argue your point 'unbeatably'.
To this end, I make the following remark :

                                            MATHEMATICS IS MORE CHALLENGING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN COMPARED TO LAW.
FamilyRe: Traditional Marriage And Wedding- Which One Is Most Important With Reason by Raymond4kc: 7:14pm On Nov 21, 2009
Traditional marriage is the most important. Marriage is contracted as soon as the Father of the lady hands over the daughter to the man, and that is more regarded before God. Now, to let everybody know that u are now MARRIED  u can use the church as a means for that and that is what is called the CHURCH WEDDING. This can be done on a small-scale , Medium-scale, or Big-scale basis. Notice that no BIBLE BELIEVING CHURCH can arrange for the CHURCH WEDDING when the Traditional wedding has not been done.  TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE SUPASSES.

I rest my case here !
TravelRe: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us by Raymond4kc: 3:39am On Nov 01, 2009
Just to add to what have been said already , I don't advise one to come to the United states to study as an undergraduate if ones parents is not a high class citizen in Nigeria. However, you can still come  over even if your parents is not well to do at all , but this time as a graduate student (that is,you are coming for Masters or Phd) provided you made a good result in your first degree WITHOUT ANY SHORT CUT, you understand ? (good result , I mean a CGPA of at least 4.00 ). THIS YOU CAN DO IN AN EASY WAY, WITH JUST A TRICK MANY PEOPLE DONT KNOW. BUT THE TRICK WORKS MORE FOR PHD STUDENTS.

In that way, you don't have to think much of the monetary aspect.  NOTICE THAT THE ONLY LANGUAGE IN THE STATES IS : 'I NEED TO PAY MY BILLS' IS A MUST FOR EVERYBODY. NO BOYCOTTING !

I WISH U THE BEST IN YOUR ENDEAVOURS.
PoliticsRe: ~Have You Ever Denied Your Country(Nigeria)? . . .~ by Raymond4kc: 3:23pm On Oct 19, 2009
Listen Ladies and gentlemen ! Do u know that if u deny ur home country,  u are INVARIABLY denying ur PARENTS. So tell me what on Earth will make u deny ur parents,  Come to think of it IF U LIE AND SAY U ARE FROM SOME OTHER COUNTRY AND LATER IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT U ARE A NIGERIAN, DONT U THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL ALSO SEE U AS ONE OF THOSE NIGERIAN FRAUDSTERS ? REMEMBER, THAT NOTHING IS HIDDEN UNDER THE SUN.

IF U ARE FLYING OUT OF NIGERIA FOR ACADEMIC PURPOSE, ALWAYS HAVE IN MIND THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST INTERESTED IN THE COUNTRY U  ARE COMING FROM, BUT THE ISSUE IS : CAN U PROVE TO BE ACADEMICALLY SMART ? IF U CAN, THEN FORGET ABOUT UR COUNTRY.
THE STATEMENT THAT NIGERIANS ARE FRAUDSTERS IS COMPLETELY BOGUS AND UNFOUNDING. WE KNOW THAT SOME ARE BAD BUT NOT MAJORITY. SO U CAN BE AMONG THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE GOOD CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTRY.
                           
                                                                         PROVE TO THAT WHITE MAN THAT NOT EVERY NIGERIAN IS A FRAUDSTER !!!
EducationRe: Can The Sufferings Of Nigerian Students End? by Raymond4kc: 1:04am On Oct 14, 2009
BEING NEGATIVE IN THIS ISSUE CANT HELP ANY THING. I ADVICE ALL NIGERIAN STUDENT TO REMAIN OPTIMISTIC AND ALWAYS HAVE IT IN MIND THAT GOD MADE YOU A NIGERIAN FOR A PURPOSE AND HE KNEW BEFORE NOW THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD CROP UP FROM TIME TO TIME. ALSO NOTICE THAT, YOUR DESTINED GREATNESS CANNOT BE STOPPED BY ANY THING (BE IT STRIKE). JUST TRY TO CHANGE THE LITTLE WORLD AROUND YOU AND ALLOW GOD TO DO HIS OWN.

STIR UP THE YOU IN YOU AND REMEMBER YOU ARE WHAT YOU CONFESS. GOD BLESS NIGERIA !
EducationRe: Strike: ASUU, FG Have Reached An Agreement! by Raymond4kc: 12:40am On Oct 04, 2009
', Sunday Vanguard gathered that ASUU MAY call off the strike by Wednesday after presenting the report of its meeting with the FG team to a meeting of its National Executive Meeting (NEC) scheduled for Abuja on Tuesday.'

The word 'may' is my problem.
EducationRe: ASUU May Call Off Strike. by Raymond4kc: 4:59pm On Sep 09, 2009
The prayer should be :  'God  touch FG to  meet to the demands of ASUU' and not that the strike be called off. If the strike is called off without meeting the demands of ASUU, I tell u fellow Nairalanders , the Problem still remains. I pray that the Problem be resolved once and for all. Remember that ASUU is fighting for  the good of all, SO SUPPORT ASUU. May God help Nigeria !!
CareerRe: Maths Or Economics: Which Is Better For Nigerian Job Market? by Raymond4kc: 11:26am On Feb 28, 2009
poster
The question is this:Between these courses, tell urself the truth, which one do u have more love for. Go ahead and do that one. I promise u, u will not regret doing it.
CareerRe: The Best Future Career by Raymond4kc: 11:20am On Feb 28, 2009
server34:
Its not the career you choose that matters but how well and how far you go along the career.
I SECOND UR CLAIM.
ANY COURSE U HAVE LOVE FOR, GO AHEAD AND DO IT. WHAT MATTERS IS HOW WELL DID U DO IT ? EVEN IF IT MEANS DOING JUMPOLOGY- THE STUDY OF HOW TO JUMP.

GOOD LUCK.
CareerRe: Engineering Vs Medicine "which Is More Challenging?" by Raymond4kc: 11:12am On Feb 28, 2009
NO COURSE IS CHALLENGING WE CONSIDER ONLY THE VOLUME OF COURSE OUTLINE OF THE COURSE !

Medicine on its own is not challenging at all. It just that the course outline is too much.
What is the course outline ? : THE HUMAN BODY - IS THE MOST COMPLICATED THING ON EARTH. GOD HIMSELF SAW IT AND MADE IT THE LAST IN CREATION. DO U KNOW THE NUMBER OF NERVES IN THE BODY, THE MEDICAL STUDENT IS EXPECTED TO KNOW IT. AND MANY MORE.

MORE OVER, NOTE THIS STATEMENT:
BEING INTELLIGENT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU CAN DO MEDICINE
DOING MEDICINE DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU ARE MORE INTELLIGENT THAN THAT ENGINEERING STUDENT;
BUT IT ALL DEPEND ON THE
LOVE FOR THE COURSE IN QUESTION.

FOR ME DOING ANY COURSE (EVEN THE MOST SO CALLED SIMPLEST COURSE) THAT IS NOT MATHEMATICALLY INCLINED IS NOT GOOD FOR ME WHEREAS SOME PEOPLE TELL U THAT ANY THING THAT HAS TO DO WITH MATHEMATIC IS AN ENEMY TO THEM. U SEE !

THESE TWO COURSES ARE NOT TO BE COMPARED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME CLASS. I REST MY CASE HERE.
EducationRe: Check This Maths Question. by Raymond4kc: 11:52pm On Feb 16, 2009
@poster

I wish to know what is your main problem with this posed question of yours. Do u need help or do u want to try people. Also may i know your academic level (are you into mathematics as a discipline ?). I don't mean to hurt you in any form but i am just curious .Please do feel free to talk to me.
EducationRe: Check This Maths Question. by Raymond4kc: 6:55pm On Feb 15, 2009
I will be glad to get correct mathematical criticisms. Happy evaluation
EducationRe: Check This Maths Question. by Raymond4kc: 1:11am On Feb 15, 2009
After playing around with the problem, i came out with the following result.

1. users of A and B : 300+60 = 360
2. At least one of the products : 1200-180 = 1120
3. At most one of the products : 120 + 60 + 240 = 420

I think this is good enough. Mathematics is FUN !
RomanceRe: He's 12 Years Older Than Me And He's Shorter Than Me by Raymond4kc: 1:05am On Feb 11, 2009
its nice and very sensible to seek God,but are you willing to wait for his answer?there's fine line btw the two
WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF SEEKING GOD'S FACE WHEN U R NOT READY TO WAIT. I STILL ADVICE TO WAIT AND FROM GOD. THIS MIGHT LOOK TASKING BUT WAITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Educational ServicesScholarship For Africans by Raymond4kc(op): 11:13pm On Feb 10, 2009
BRAINSTORMING SCHOLARSHIP AT AFRICAN UNIVERSITY AND TECHNOLOGY OPEN NOW FOR AFRICAN BRIGHT STUDENT. visit : www.aust.edu.ng for more information.
RomanceRe: He's 12 Years Older Than Me And He's Shorter Than Me by Raymond4kc: 10:33pm On Feb 10, 2009
The height and age doesnot matter. What matters is this : Is this man the will of God for me ? Poster, if you dont consult God , I tell u , u might do mistake. Everybody here on Nairaland will tell you his/her own idea or what he/she feels is right but can not tell you the exact thing. I advice that u stop seeking man's advice and consult God otherwise u will be confused. REMEMBER FOR BETTER FOR WORSE. THIS AN EVERLASTING INSTITUTION YOU WANT TO GO INTO.

ALSO, REMEMBER ON THE DAY OF CREATION, GOD MADE BOTH THE TALL AND SHORT AND ALL THESE ARE FOR SOME PURPOSE. I WISH U THE BEST. CONSULT GOD HE WILL NEVER DISAPPOINT YOU , BUT YOUR MOTHER, SISTER , NAIRALANDERS EVEN ME CAN ADVICE YOU WRONGLY BUT GOD WONT. GOD BLESS YOU AS GO INTO YOUR SECRET AND SEEK THE FACE OF GOD.
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Raymond4kc: 10:06pm On Nov 24, 2008
This issue raised here has a conclusion, It is either SirJohn is lying, Pastor Chris is not very honest or his staff are deceiving him. One of these three is definately the answer.
This is the conclusion of the matter.
Nothing more , nothing more.
ALL CE MEMBERS SHOULD DEFEND JESUS AND NOT PST CHRIS. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MY CE BRETHERN.

HAVE U TRIED TO PONDER IN PRAYERS TO KNOW HOW GENIUUE THIS STORY OF JOHN IS? THINK ABOUT IT. GOD BLESS.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Purgatry Real by Raymond4kc: 9:05pm On Nov 24, 2008
@ Lady
ast time I checked it wasn't angels that he saved. He went to save the humans who were already dead. Now you may not know it but in the Bible it was noted that it was humans not angels that he saved.
My dear friend, there are some truth u really need to agree with. Fine, Notice once again that the personalities Jesus went to preach to were angels NOT HUMAN BEINGS. I have PROOFS for that. To give you these proofs i demand that u are ready to know the truth, stop holding on what you are being taught somewhere, sometime. Pls reply and indicate your interest to really get the understand in the word of God. Search the scriptures. I dont have much time to waste with somebody that doesnot want to know the truth but just to argue unscripturally ( I dont mean to insult U, but if i have done that, pls am really sorry). God bless u.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Purgatry Real by Raymond4kc: 11:00am On Nov 23, 2008
1 Peter 3:19; 4:6 - Jesus preached to the spirits in the "prison." These are the righteous souls being purified for the beatific vision.
Regarding this passage, please join me to the book of 2 pet 2:4 - I read, 'For  if God did not spare the angels that sinned, but cast them down to HELL,,   '
The HELL here is derived from Tartarus (greek) and Tartaros (Latin) meaning a place of punishment and confinement for angels until the judgement. The fallen Angels sinned (cons. Gen 6:1-2) and they were confined to Hell (Tartarus)
It might interest u to  note that there are five compactments in the under world of which TARTARUS is one of them. Today people call this Tartarus Purgatory. But the fact is that Tartarus is not meant for we human beings , it is only meant for Fallen angels that rebelled against God.

The only place meant for Human beings are Hell fire and lake of Fire (these are also compactments under world). For now the soul that dies in sin , will go to Hell fire waiting for the resurrection of the body for the White Throne Jugdement (Read Revelation for more insight) after this judgement that soul is cast to the LAKE OF FIRE. So for now , we have ONLY two places to go to immediately we die - HEAVEN OR HELL FIRE no more, no less.

After Jesus died his body was in the grave but He went (quickened by the spirit of God) to preach to spirits in Prison- this means that He went to Tartarus to let the fallen angels know the plans of God.
By the grace of God I have more info concerning this fact, but[b] NOTE THAT THERE IS NOTHING LIKE PURGATORY IT DOES NOT EXIST[/b].  Should any obscurity, I will be glad to clarify the point. God bless U ALL.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Wrong With A Guy Plaiting His Hair Or With Locks? by Raymond4kc: 11:19am On Nov 22, 2008
@ pOSTER
HEY MY FRIEND GO AND CUT DOWN UR HAIR. THERE ARE MANY THINGS WE DONT DO TODAY NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE SIN OR THEY ARE EXPLICITLY WRITTEN AS SIN IN THE BIBLE, BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE PEOPLE WE WOULD ALSO WANT TO PREACH TO. APOSTLE PAUL SAID, I EXERCISE MYSELF EVERYDAY TO ENSURE I HAVE A CONSCIENCE VOID OF OFFENCE TOWARDS GOD AND MAN. SO IF U ARE REALLY A TRUE CHRISTIAN , U WILL ALSO CONSIDER THE PEOPLE AROUND U. THAT IS CHRISTIANITY.

I TELL U ONE THING, IF I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN AND U COME TO ME TO PREACH WITH UR HAIR BRAIDED, I WILL LOOk AT U AS NOT SERIOUS.
MANY PEOPLE LIKE A CHURCH WHERE ANYTHING GOES BUT THE ROAD TO HEAVEN IS A NARROW WAY.

THOSE PEOPLE TELLING U TO BRING DOWN UR HAIR REALLY LOVE U. BUT U MIGHT TAKE IT AS DISTURBANCE. MIND U , PLAITING UR HAIR DOESNT MAKE LOOK GOOD AS A GOOD.
GOD BLESS U .
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Raymond4kc: 10:32am On Nov 22, 2008
remember in every rumour, there is an atom of truth
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Raymond4kc: 10:31am On Nov 22, 2008
Why did he relax his hair because HE IS A CHRIS EMBASSY. NOTICE THAT I DID NOT SAY CHRIST EMBASSY, THERE IS NO 'T'

I ADVICE AL MEMBERS OF THIS CHURCH TO DO ONE THING IF THEY REALLY WANT TO SEE GOD AT LAST:
TAKE A DAY AND PRAY SINCERELY, WITH NO ATOM OF GRUDGES OR MALICE IN HEART, ASK GOD THAT HE SHOULD TELL U THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS MATTER, I TELL U MAN CAN DECIEVE U (INCLUDING  PASTOR CHRIS AND MANY OTHER PASTORS) BUT GOD CANNOT DECIEVE U. MAKE THIS PRAYER WITH THE MIND THAT U WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND  THIS TRUTH WILL SAVE U.

STOP DEFENDING UR PASTOR MY FRIEND, ASK GOD TO SHOW YOU THE WAY don't BELIEVE ON WHAT JOHN AND OTHERS ARE SAYING BUT TRY TO KNOW WHAT GOD IS SAYING ABOUT THIS MATTER. MIND U, WHEN MAKING THIS PRAYER, FREE UR MIND (IF U BELIEVE THAT PASTOR CHRIS IS REAL, THEN UR PRAYER WILL BE ANSWERED IN THAT DIRECTION AND ALSO IF U BELIEVE THAT HE IS FAKE THEN YOUR PRAYER WILL BE ANSWERED IN THAT DIRECTION).   I REST MY CASE HERE. STAYED TUNED.
Christianity EtcRe: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Raymond4kc: 10:17am On Nov 22, 2008
Hmmmmmmm! am tired. I have been going though this thread and i found out that this is really a bebate between John and the entire member of Christ Embassy.
If i call the result now, it seems as if JOHN is wining. Anyway that is not the main thing.

Now to the point - Most of the CE members always talk about faith, but it might interest u to note that faith can be manifested by any body(whether a Christian or not) and the result will be positive. I like listening to Pst Chris to get something i call CHRISTIAN RELIGION KNOWLEGE. Listen I put it forth to u that ANYBODY THAT HAS AFFECTION FOR
HEAVEN CAN NOT BE THERE. wHY? ( I  KNOW SOME PEOPLE WILL ATTACk ME VEHEMENTLY FOR THIS COMMENT, am sorry for that, BUT IT IS the TRUth)

Hey Men and Brethern forget about miracle, for me MIRACLE IS JUST A FULFILMENT OF THE BELIEF WE HAVE IN CHRIST. MIRACLE DOESNT DISTINGUISH CHURCH FROM CHURCH, THE MAIN THING IS , HOW DO U PRACTISE CHRISTIANITY?

Some days back , i saw somebody and i ask him are u a member of Christ Embassy Church? and he said YES, The question is why did i ask him of this particular Church?
Reason: I looked at his Head and Saw that he relaxed his hair,   to be continued
Christianity EtcDifference Between Deeperlife And Watchman by Raymond4kc(op): 12:40am On Nov 20, 2008
MANY ATIMES I FIND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THESE TWO CHURCHES -

DEEPERLIFE AND WATCHMAN

BECAUSE IT SEEMS AS IF THEIR DOCTRINES ARE ALMOST THE SAME.

PLS CAN SB HELP ME POINT OUT THE MAIN DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THESE TWO CONGRAGATION .

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