Job Description

We need one (1) young graduate / undergraduate for a one time, temporary sub project involving data input and collation. The sub project is expected to last not more than one month, and will require the use of your own laptop computer / PC, and a high level of proficiency in Microsoft Excel or Open office calc.

Following an initial briefing, you will be left to work from home or school under your own initiative, at hours that suit you, to meet an agreed deadline of approximately one month.

This job involves mostly working with numbers and figures, so a high level of numeracy is essential. Short listed candidates will be required to undergo a test of numeracy and spreadsheet skills.


Primary Responsibilities:
• Receive data for collation in a spreadsheet
• Prepare a spreadsheet to a specified format
• Provide weekly progress reports and submissions by email to the Project Leader
• Submission of spreadsheet in electronic format to Project Leader on completion


Relevant Skills and Qualifications:
• High proficiency in Microsoft Excel or other spreadsheet program
• Good written and verbal communication in English
• High level of numeracy and ability to work with numbers in different formats
• Must be dependable, self-reliant and trustworthy
• Ability to work under own initiative to achieve deadlines
• Must have own computer / laptop with a recent version of Microsoft Excel or similar

Salary:
This is a 1 month project for which basic salary will be N25,000. A variable bonus may be payable upon timely and succesful completion of the work.

JOB LOCATION: Open – will be working from home, but will be required to attend 2 meetings in Lagos. One at beginning of the project, and one at the end.

QUALIFICATIONS: A relevant course of study in Business administration, Secretarial studies or other related courses involving use of spreadsheets

RELEVANT EXPERIENCE: Must have good, verifiable experience of Microsoft excel spreadsheets

AGE: Not more than 30 Years

APPLICATION DEADLINE: May 8, 2015

METHOD OF APPLICATION: Interested candidates should email a ONE PAGE Curriculum Vitae, scanned passport photo and covering letter with “Temporary Job” as the subject of the mail
To: tempjob@ziggo.nl

@ Lakexider,

lakexider:

hello house i cannot think of anything nowadays than how i will become a pilot. i need help and i need it fast.however, can i use a pilot skills and aptitude test to source for sponsorship from airlines and oil companies?cos i recently did a pilot skills and aptitude test in manchester and was wondering if it is a good guarrantee for sponsorship? rdv, wham, pilot955, iv4y, etc pls i need urgent reply

It is a good start, but that in itself will not guarantee you sponsorship.

It will give you an advantage in the selection process, if you mention in the application for sponsorship, that you have taken and passed the test

Its been a while,

Hope you are all doing ok.

IVY4U, congrats!!! Hope it is all going well. we will talk more on email.

To those of you still clinging on to the dream, despite the problems of finance, well done, and hang in there. Dont give up, the worldwide financial crisis is slowing things down dramatically right now, but early in the next year, the recession will end, and there will be a huge worldwide demand for both new and exerienced pilots, across international borders. That is an official prediction from "Pilot" Magazine.

I Hope and pray that each and every one of you is in the right place at the right time when it happens.

I think the Hero in this story is radarvector RDV

ahem, cough, cough, (blushing),

Yes O, I'm afraid its me.

The paper were doing a series of articles on Afro-Carribean people who have chosen non-mainstream professions. Watch out for some very impressive people to be showcased in coming issues. It was truly humbling and inspirational to see what our people are quietly acheiving in the world.

"Live the dream", and "Never give up". That should be the motto of anyone who aspires to become a pilot, as I am sure all of you here know (especially if you have read all 10 pages of this thread,, that shows you have the determination and tenacity to make it, already!!!!)

Hope you are all doing fine, and keeping the dream alive,

@Crooks,

Is that 13,000 US Dollars  , in Malaysia?

My brother, that sounds a bit high. In fact, it is nearly the cost of a professional licence in some schools in Yankee.

A P.P.L should be more like 5,000 US Dollars.

check here, http://www.theflightschool.com/programs.htm

Hello Everybody,

I still dey. Its quite busy at work, so not much time these days for internet, but I still dey to answer any questions you migh have.

CTC Wings is very well known, and has a good reputation. Am not 100 percent sure how it works these days, but in my own days, you had to already have your ATPL before you could even apply for the scheme.

@wham,

good job!

@Ohiochard,

Yes, the ticket price to Joburg may be cheaper than Abu Dhabi. Have they confirmed you for Joburg and have they given u a precise date for the asessment yet?

Good luck with Bristow.

@Ohiochard,

Sometime ago,i applied for the Bristow stuff,but i wasn't even invited for their selection process.I wonder why?as i have the requirements stipulated on the advert.Now they are calling again.WHAT SHOULD I DO?

Apply again!!! Quickly!! You just have to keep trying. Being called for interview is sometimes just down to pure luck, especially if they have a lot of candidates that meet the requirements. Some people get in eventually after 3 or 4 tries. Anytime and everytime you see an advert, apply!!! Even if u have applied before. One day, it will be your turn.

Also, like you seem to be doing already, keep in touch with guys who are familiar with the Bristow cadet scheme, like wham. You will get valuable and up to date info from them.

How do i go about it?of course,i would write but i would really appreciate to know what to write to them?That of the location,you already suggested Abu-Dhabi.That's my take

At this stage, you really do not have to say much when you contact them. This is what they say on their website:

How to apply:

In 2009 we will be conducting initial assessments in London(February),Frankfurt(March),Johannesburg(May),Sydney(June),Abu Dhabi(July),Canada(August),United States of America (August and Singapore(September).to apply simply send a message to cadetpilot@etihad.ae stating clearly the location you would like to attend for the assessment. CVs are not required at this stage. Applications will be accepted up to the first day of the month before the assessment.

So, for you it is quite simple. Just say" My name is xxxxxxxxxx, I am interested in applying for the Etihad Cadet Scheme, and would like to attend the assessment in Abu Dhabi. Please send me an application form or advise how to forward my CV to you."

@wiod657

i am interested in in the bristow graduate recruitment but i don't have the flimsiest idea about flying,piloting etc ]

I don't get it. If you have no idea about piloting or flying etc, then how do you know you are "interested" in the bristow graduate recruitment? And how do you think people here will be able to help you from that starting point? It sounds like an impossible task.

Did you mean for general graduate recruitement, i.e. not to do with flying?

Flying is not something you should approach half-heartedly, just because you want a job, or any job. It requires a lot of dedication and determination, and for that reason, most people who succeed in it have a real desire and love for the job. Now if you had that, you would at least know "something" already

@Ivy4U,

well done. I am happy to hear that everything is on track. I dey here for you anytime, for questions and moral support too. My "Office" dey fine, not too much flying at the moment, but all that will change this month , I have a very busy schedule. But sha, we will stay in touch.

@Adexblue,

I got ur email, but I did not know it was from you. I thought somebody had just mis-addressed it , but now I know its you, I will reply directly to you.

Jo'burg is a good choice, if u had a way to reach there. But as you no get, Abu Dhabi is a better option. Contact them and ask to change your venue to Abu Dhabi.

Now Etihad will start flying from Lagos / Abuja to Abu Dhabi next year, (see http://thenational.ae/article/20080826/BUSINESS/161483757/1057), so when you have an interview date, if u still dont have the finances to get there yourself, you can write to them explaining you have an interview with them but you cannot raise the finances to travel, but you really want to work for them,, blah, blah, blah and you are requesting permission to buy a "staff rate" ticket to get to the interview. Even if Jo'burg ends up as your venue, you can still try the same approach, because they can issue you a staff rate ticket to use on SAA.

I think that the guy who chose Abuja will be waiting a long long time, unless you guys can all get together and get enough people interested in the advert to make it worthwhile for them to do some interviews in Naija. Maybe u can start a thread here on NairaLand to see how many people have applied to them. If the number is substantial, then you can ask Etihad if they will consider making an interview venue in Naija.

Re: Flight Sim - dont worry too much about landing in Flight Sim. Most professional pilots I know cannot land any type of plane on flight sim (me, I crash every time, even in a Cessna ). But for the ILS itself, Pilot77 is right - double check your configuration. You should be in the final landing configuration (correct flaps, correct power setting, landing gear fully down, final approach speed) by 1000 feet above ground level, at the latest. Then you can concentrate on flying the localiser and glideslope accurately. Most ILS's are 3 degree slope, and to fly 3degrees down, your rate of descent must be 5 x groundspeed - so, check your groundspeed once u are in the landing configuration, and then fly the corresponding vertical speed.

The ILS is the shape of a cone, with the apex at the ground, so as u get closer to the ground, your margin for deviations reduces a lot, and the ILS becomes more and more sensitive, so once u spot a slight deviation, correct it immediately.

Good luck, and hope that helps.

@Ivy4u,

hope everything is going well, and ur all set.

@ Crooks,

oga sir, u need to give as much info as possible in order to get good advice back. Just saying it is a "P.P.L" program is not enough. (and note that u have to write pee pee ell as P.P.L, otherwise nairaland changes it to 'people' for you )

If all you are interested in getting is a p.p.l, then there is not a big difference between all the flying schools in the world. They all have to teach you the same thing:

How to fly a small single engine plane, from A to B, by yourself, in good weather, without getting lost, without damaging the plane, and without killing yourself or anybody on the ground.

That is basically the p.p.l syllabus, so there is little room for variation.

If the price of the school sounds good to you, and you are sure that they can teach you in English, go for it. don't pay them any money (other than maybe a deposit) until you get there and have had a look around. Or better still, post their website address here so we can have a look.

If they don't have a website,, abeg siddon for house! 

so, here is the advert in full.

The method of application, and the address to apply to are on the last page:

@ Adexblue,

my brother, how now?

That is a very good idea you have about Etihad. They are one airline that are very proud of having so many different nationalities in their workforce. In fact, that is the basis of all their advertising. So, for them, things like work permit, nationality, passport, etc are not a problem.

The website you really need is this one:

http://careers.etihadairways.com/ehire/english/News/Description.aspx?NEWS_ID=24

(for those of you who cannot access it, I will try and paste the whole advert here later)

Read the advert very carefully, and make sure u meet all the requirements. Be careful when choosing a location for the assesment, I would suggest that you choose Abu Dabi or Jo'burg.

Good luck, and keep me informed how it progresses.

for those of you who could not open the link I posted, it was an article from "The Tide" newspaper. It said:

Bayelsa to train 20 pilots

• Thursday, Aug 14, 2008

Bayelsa Government has entered into a partnership with Virgin Nigeria Airways to train 20 youths from the state as pilots.

Governor Timipre Sylva disclosed this in Yenagoa during the celebration of the International Youth Day.

The Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Youth Development and Employment, Dr. Abrakasa Fiepre, represented the governor on the occasion.

Sylva urged youths to co-operate with the government to develop the state by prevailing on their colleagues from neighbouring states to desist from crime.

He re-affirmed his administration’s commitment to youth development and promised to give them scholarships to study in Norway and the US.

The governor also said 60 youths had been sent to India to study information Technology, while 30 would be trained as Air Traffic Officers by the Nigerian Airspace Management Authority.

He said government would soon establish a local content building Institute in partnership with UNDP, and urged youths to reciprocate government’s investment by maintaining peace. In a goodwill message, the Chairman of Ijaw Youths Council, central Zone, Mr. Jonathan Lokpobiri, called on the government to adopt policies that would benefit the youth.

Lokpobiri appealed to the youth to adopt a non-violent approach in their struggles.

A representative of NYSC, Mr. Nelson Opuwaribo appealed to government to base the award of scholarship abroad on merit.

Anybody here from Bayelsa State might be interested in this:

http://www.thetidenews.com/article.aspx?qrDate=08/14/2008&qrTitle=Bayelsa%20to%20train%2020%20pilots&qrColumn=NIGER%20DELTA

Amen!!!!!!!!!, Femo 2000, that is the spirit!

abi, maybe even here seff,

@shushu,

earlier, I said

In my experience, everybody who eventually makes it, has a story to tell about how a lot of determination, and a small bit of luck got them there.

, and then a few posts later, Pilot77 said

I did go through the Bristow Selection Processin 2001 (i just turned 24 then)and i was selected but i had to wait for 3 years which was a very harrowing experience, In 2004,i saw an advert on the newspapers and i called up the Ops Manager who is known to Wham and i asked him what about me,he said i should call him every 3 weeks,wjich i did.Little did i know that i was digging my own pit.A few months later,the guy told me that he was dropping my name off the list as i was disturbing him.

, and despite that setback, he sounds like he is on the verge of his breakthrough. I kid you not,, the very nature of the job means that only the most determined and focussed make it. You are not alone in your situation, and one day in future, you too will be recounting the story of how you made it despite what seems now like banging your head against a brick wall. Hang in there, and hang on to the dream.

@Pilot77

well done. Good luck with the preparations, and welcome to the "my office is in the sky" club!

@shushu

Email me - raydavecta@hotmail.com

I have a couple of suggestions for you

@shushu,

I just noticed that you are in Aberdeen. Is that correct?

Have you tried applying to Bristow over there, or Scotia?

@shushu,

i have been interested in flying for about 6years now .where havent i gone or written to ;i went to zaria,went to my local government for sponsorship,wrote to 43 air,wrote to embry riddle,wrote to another one in australia-basair,went to bellview,tried maersk air and then when i wanted to apply to bristow they were only interested in pilots with a PPL.

Hang in there, and dont give up. It will happen for you one day, in Gods time. I too ended up with a regular job initially, so I can really relate to your story. But if it could happen for me, it could happen for you too.

In my experience, everybody who eventually makes it, has a story to tell about how a lot of determination, and a small bit of luck got them there. You obviously have the determination,, and the luck will come your way very soon. (If you are in Lagos, try and just visit the Bristow offices at the airport, and start networking. That usually helps)

I work for KLM, the Dutch Airline, not Bristow, and I dont know Jide adebayo, sorry, somebody else mentioned the name.

Take care, and my fingers are crossed for you

@ Everybody applying for the VN and Bristow sponsorships;

GOOD LUCK !

@Pilot77,

Marcus is a very very good heli pilot.i respect him a lot.he's a very patient training captain.
RDV ,we could probably hook up soon .

Yes he is. Give my regards to him if you see him or speak to him soon. I havent spoken to him for a while. tell him Olumide said hello. I look forward to the hook up at some point.

@IVY4U,

I have not meet RDV. I hope i really meet him. The guy help me well well oooooooooo. 

Dont worry, on the day of your first commercial flight as an airline pilot, I will be sitting proudly in row 1, with a big smile.
For now, na to face the study and flying training with full force O. 

@Pilot77,

are u talking about Marcus Olaleye?or Jide Adebayo?

Marcus. We were at GCI together, and we were also area neighbours growing up as kids.

You know him? I guess you work for Bristow. Safe flying.

@ Everybody,

I am getting a lot of emails about diffculty of sponsorship, etc. So instead of individual replies, here is some additional info:

One way that Airlines try to reduce the risk of selecting cadets who wont succesfully finish the course, is by looking for graduates (This shows them that you have the academic ability and can apply yourself to pass the course). Another way, is by them requesting that you already have a PPL (Private Pilots Licence) before you apply. See for example, the current advert by Virgin Nigeria here

http://www.virginnigeria.com/en/ng/careers.html

You having a PPL shows them that you can pass the basic course (which means that you also have a very high chance of passing the advanced course), that you already have experience of flying (and will not suddenly decide during their sponsorship that you are afraid of flying ), and that you are really committed indeed to a career as a pilot.

That is why most airlines will list it as an alternative to a university degree. They both demonstrate that you have a very high chance of becoming a professional pilot.

Now, what if you do not have a PPL?

Well, do not let that stop you from applying. The PPL is the most basic, cheapest and quickest of all the pilot qualifications. There are accelerated courses all over the world that can be completed in as little as 4 to 6 weeks. The cost varies according to where you do the course, but is usually around 6,000 dollars in USA, or 70,000 Rand in SA.

Apply anyway, and send a covering letter (or explain in your application) that you do not have a PPL yet, but you are working towards it, and would like them to consider you with a view to giving you an offer "conditional on your having got a PPL by your starting date".

This is a two way deal - you are telling them that if they offer you a cadetship you will get the PPL before you start, and they will be telling you in return that if you pass the selection but do not get a PPL before your start date - no show!!!! This is now shifting almost all of the risk from the airline, to you. So, be sure that you are capable and determined enough to take the risk of spending all that money on a PPL.

If they agree to that, then that in itself should be enough incentive for you to move heaven and earth to find the money for the PPL. Maybe even show the letter to your bank and try and get a loan. It is as good as a job guarantee (if you get the PPL, and pass the cadet course)

Hope that helps

@Femo2000,

Bristow must have changed their requirements. I have a class mate from secondary school that joined them straight after with only O Levels. He is now in Scotland, with Scotia, and is a Helicopter Captain. So, at one time, it was possible, but I guess not now.

Whether you should still apply depends on your circumstances, i.e. your age now, what you are doing now, whether you plan to complete a university degree, etc. (I appreciate that you may not want to post all that kind of info here, so lets take the worst case scenario)

Lets assume that you are mid to late twenties, your highest qualification was the O Levels, and you are working now in a job you dont particularly enjoy, with no plans to do a degree.

Then in that case, my advice to you would be to apply to Bristow, VN, Arik etc, not as a trainee pilot / cadet, but in some other function where you stand a better chance of getting in, e.g. ticket staff, office staff, etc. Once you are in and have built up a good working history, the lack of a degree will not count against you as much as it would now. A degree is not a requirement for the flying training. It is as you rightly said, just the airlines way of trying to ensure that they get people with proven academic ability to pass the course. By doing another job within the organisation very well, you will also demonstrate this to them another way.

If your circumstances are different to what I assumed, then I guess you can adjust the recommendation slightly, e.g. if you are going to do a degree, then wait until you finish the degree before applying. If you have a good job now, then try and get private sponsorship, etc.

If you are quite young, and still have to go to university, you are perfectly placed. Try and get a holiday job every vacation with aero, VN, Bristow or Arik. By the time you finish your degree, becoming a cadet for one of them will be easy.

@ Tuby,

getting a sponsor is difficult,, but it is possible.

every organisation that offers a scholarship, is also a potential sponsor. approach them.

Also, try the NDA as a way to get into the NAF, and after that you can switch to commercial flying.

@femo2000,

you and radarvector just got along so well, I envy you small

haba,, no need for envy,, I dey here for you too 

@ forum
but what I don't understand is that  According to the article I read in the papers and on their website, thay called those guys cadet and they were going to D US for 10mnths and obtain CPL. The question is, is it possible for a ''cadet'' that does not have a CPL to be a Staff of V.N and what does it take to become this so called CADET  or is there some Kind of Politics going on in V.N towards the selection of cadidates.

There is a bit of politics,, but not in the way that you are thinking. I will explain that later.

First of all, don't worry at all about the term "cadet". It does not mean anything. It is just a way of describing trainee pilots that are sponsored by an airline, to differentiate them from trainees that are paying for the course themselves, who are described as "self-sponsored".

You do not become a cadet until the airline agrees to sponsor you, and you sign all the agreements, etc. So you could be working for Virgin as a ticket agent, cabin crew, baggage loader, driver, or whatever,, then you apply for sponsorship, and then when you are accepted, they start to describe you as a cadet. That is why the 10 guys you were talking about were already working for VN before they became cadets. (In actual fact, the majority of them were cabin crew and office staff  before they became cadets). That is also why no one heard about the whole thing until after they had been selected. all advertising was done internally.

When the cadets finish their training, they come back and start flying as Second Officers, and then they progress in time to First Officer, and finally Captain.

The Politics - The only politics going on here, is that VN selected the cadets from within the workforce, and did not place an advert in the newspaper, or advertise on TV, Radio etc.  But, that is very normal in the airline business. Pilot training is very expensive, and airlines are always very afraid of selecting someone who ends up not being able to complete the course, or will not fit in to the company culture, when this happens, the airline loses a lot of money.

It therefore makes more sense for them to select people who are already known within the company, regardless of what type of job they are doing in the company. They already know the type of person you are, your ability, your performance, etc, and can make a better judgement about how succesful you will be, compared to a JJC that just walks in from the street.

That is why 99% of airlines will choose internally. If there is a lack of internal candidates, then they will advertise and recruit externally. But external candidates will go through a much tougher selection process, involving interview, aptitiude tests, psychometric tests, etc, again because the risk is greater for the airline. The internal selection will not be as rigorous, because they know you already.

SO, the bottom line?

If you cannot get private sponsorship (like IVY4U), and are really keen for the VN sponsorship, your best starting point, is to get any kind of job you feel comfortable with, at VN. Once you are in, then you will have the earlier opportunity to apply to become a cadet. From within, you can lobby and network with the people that matter much better than you can as an outsider. ( The ideal starting point, in my view, is as cabin crew, or flight dispatch, or flight operations, you get to interact in those jobs, everyday, with the very same people who make the decisions on recruitement of cadets)

@ rez
I prefer to be a Commercial line Pilot to a rotary wing,  What was your first interview with Bristow like I mean for ab-initio candidates?.
Is the application for the next interview still open? I am thinking u know things sometimes may  work out in another way

Also a good alternative option. The conversion from rotary to fixed wing later in your career is also quite straightforward. The academic training is exactly the same. so, if you can get rotary sponsorship, go for it. The conditions of sponsorship usually mean that you have to work for the company for something like 5 years after graduation, but after that you can do a small conversion course and switch to fixed wing if you like.

Good luck with whatever option you end up choosing. Any more questions,, I dey here for you. 

@IVY4U,

the books and CD ROM should be waiting for you at the airport office now. I sent them on Monday.

Good luck with all your preparations, and keep in touch

To everybody who is scared of flying, abeg, make una no worry, it is perfectly normal to be scared of flying because it is not natural for human beings to fly. If God originally wanted us to fly, he would have given us wings instead of arms!

Fear of flying is caused mostly by 4 factors:

1. Not being in control, and most importantly, not being able to see out of the front window!! (unlike when you are driving your own car)
2. Strange, uncomfortable sensations that you are not used to (e.g. turbulence)
3. Strange sounds and noises that come from the aeroplane (you dont know if it is a normal sound, or if the wing is actually falling off!!!)
4. The knowledge that an airplane accident usually has very catastrophic end results, and stories and reports you have heard about previous plane crashes.

It is NOT possible to completely get rid of the fear of flying. The best you can do is learn to control your response to the 4 factors I mentioned. And one of the best ways to do that is to actually become better informed. Getting boozed up, or overdosing on sleeping pills doesnt help you control the fear,, it makes you forget the fear until you sober up or wake up, and then the fear comes back, times two!!!!

Without going into detail that will resemble a university lecture, , make I suggest a way to start to cope with the 4 factors;

1. Not being in control - yes, you are not in control, but the pilots who are in control are very well trained, undergo recurrent training every 3 months, are flying aeroplanes that are designed to withstand turbulence 10 times as bad as any you will ever see in real life, have families just like you so will not be taking any "cowboy" risks, and fly nearly every day of their lives and therefore are experienced. Airlines exist on their reputation, and safety is the biggest reputation builder for airlines, so if you can, always choose a reputable airline. The extra naira you pay more than some other cheaper airlines is your insurance against having poorly trained people in control of your flight. If you ride on a train, you also cannot see the front, but you dont get scared like you do in a plane, do you? That is because your brain tells you that in such a tense and unfamiliar situation, it needs to see the front in order to work out what is going on, i.e. if factors 2, 3 and 4 did not also exist, you would not worry about not being able to see the front.

2. Strange sensations and turbulence - In normal everyday life, your body and brain are used to moving in 2 certain dimensions, up/down and left/right, but not usually at the same time. When you fly, the aircraft moves in 3 dimensions, and also mostly all at the same time. That causes all sorts of funny feelings in your stomach and head, and makes you uncomfortable. In turbulence, all those movememnts are exaggerated, that is what makes turbulence so scary. Turbulence itself is caused by movement of the earths air. It is the same movement that causes clouds to form. So wherever you see clouds, you are sure to get turbulence. When you see those kind of clouds that you just know that when the rain starts, the whole of lagos is going to be flooded, those are the worst for turbulence, and pilots actually fly around them instead of flying through them. The other cause of turbulence is just change in wind speed and direction at high level. When a small breeze is blowing on the ground, the minimum wind speed at 25000 feet will be around 100km/h. Somewhere between the ground and 2500ft, the speed and direction will vary and as you fly through wherever it changes, you will get turbulence.

3. Strange noises and sounds - if you are really worried, ask the cabin crew or the pilots (after the flight). They hear those sounds everyday, and will be able to tell you what it is / was. And then you will know, and if you hear it again on another flight, you will already know what it is.

4. Danger of flying - whenever a plane crash happens, it is very very big news because a) it does not happen often, and b) when it does, the tragedy that will all be concentrated in one spot. But think about this - as a human race, car travel is actually more dangerous to us than flying. If you add up the total number of people who die in car accidents all over the world in 1 year, and compare it to the number of people who die in airplane accidents all over the world in 1 year, car travel is at least 20 times more risky. . For an average traveller, the chances of being involved in an airplane accident are something like 1 in 10 million. Every time you read about, hear about, or think about an air accident, give thanks to God for you not being involved, pray for those that were, and then put it all in the context that nothing in life is risk free, all we as human beings do, is try to minimise the risk. The rest is up to God Almighty.

@IVY4U,

well done. Keep chasing and hassling them at VN. Dont be shy. Just be polite and persistent. Keep trying to meet the different managers at their flight operations dept, and let them know that all you are looking for at this stage is advice on how to develop your career. You will remember them, and they will remember you when the time comes that you really need them.

I have a couple of very good friends at Aero. I will speak to them too and try and get you a contact there.

Its good that you are in Lagos. That makes it easier to send you the books. I will send them to the KLM Office at MMIA and you will have to pick them up there. Send me an e-mail with your full name, to raydavecta@hotmail.com

take care,