Politics › Re: RTEAN, Zamfara Government Buy 2,522 Made-In-Nigeria Buses From OMAA Motors by redcliff: 9:42am On Jun 12, 2022 |
shortIGBOman: You are not being truthful with yourself. you must be a pillock to depict development in 3 pictures, hoping to drive a dead point. Is development only about only the physical space you see? if so, why will Nnewi be classified as the village with the richest millionaires per person in the whole of Africa. I am not here to trade tribal words with you. I am not a tribalist. I am also not short sighted like you. bye |
Christianity Etc › Re: Will Bad People Burn In Hell? by redcliff: 9:32am On Jun 12, 2022 |
gideonjeta: Many religions teach that bad people will burn in hell. But is that the will of God? What does the Bible say about this?
According to the Bible, God created the first human pair perfect. (Genesis 1:27) He placed them in a paradise garden and gave them the opportunity to live forever. However, the first humans, Adam and Eve, had one restriction--not to eat from a certain tree. They disobey and reap the deadly consequence of death.
Had Adam and Eve been in danger of burning in hell, would not God have warned them about such a punishment? The fact is that he(God) mentioned nothing about suffering after death. How could they suffer? They did not have immortal souls that would survive after death. The Bible makes this very clear at Ezekiel 18:4 which says in part--"The soul who sins is the one who will die."
As the Giver of life, our Creator knows all there is to know about life and death. He tells us in his Word that “the dead know nothing at all, ” (Ecclesiastes 9:5). That is why Adam and Eve could not suffer in a fiery hell after their death. They simply returned to the dust and ceased to exist. They "know nothing at all.”
So, then, is it reasonable to believe that people suffer in hellfire for their sins, when Adam, the one who brought death upon the entire human race, simply became dust after dying? If both good and bad people die and nobody experiences suffering after death, what is the final punishment for those who continually do bad things without remorse?
Anyone who refuses to conform to God’s laws will be punished with “the second death.” as stated in Revelation 21:8. This is the death from which they will never awake.
So it is clear from what the Bible says, that bad people who continually commit willful bad acts without remorse will not burn in hell but will be destroyed. The soul never dies! Humans have a soul, spirit and body, just as scientist call it, mind, body and soul. That soul is what will burn in hell. The bible refers to that process as death because there is nothing about it that shows you are alive. Stop trying to translate the bible literally otherwise, you will be lost |
Politics › Re: RTEAN, Zamfara Government Buy 2,522 Made-In-Nigeria Buses From OMAA Motors by redcliff: 9:29am On Jun 12, 2022 |
OGHENAOGIE: let Igbo go turn Igboland to eldorado ist...let them change aba from being the most dirtiest State... Okay. |
Autos › Re: Clean Title Rav4 2010 4.8M(Negotiable) by redcliff: 9:28am On Jun 12, 2022 |
iaanput: My brother, revolution will *NEVER* happen when the majority are chicken-feathers. Fela don talk am say na suffering and smiling. Actually, the problem is the lack of a unifying interest. Our tribes, cultures, beliefs and religion made it so. Which goes to show that Nigeria will never work because of varying interest because we would always have that.. We are doomed. |
Politics › Re: RTEAN, Zamfara Government Buy 2,522 Made-In-Nigeria Buses From OMAA Motors by redcliff: 9:22am On Jun 12, 2022 |
shortIGBOman: The leaders in the East, where are they from. Are they Alians? Cause the East is presently the least developed Region. Why didn't your leaders make it better? ] East is the least developed region you say? if that be the case, I will not agree with you that its in intellectual and human development. |
Autos › Re: Clean Title Rav4 2010 4.8M(Negotiable) by redcliff: 9:21am On Jun 12, 2022 |
iaanput: U don see am na. The car came in Friday last week. With 608 a dollar to naira.
But na 4.8 bros. E never enter 5m. 2006 corolla is now 3m for clean title. A car that was once sold for 1.8m To be honest, I am still surprised as to how Nigeria is still standing today. Na ordinary bread cause french revolution but in Nigeria, nobody is ready and willing to fight. it is crazy. So many things have happened in nigeria that if it had happened else where, the country would have burnt down. |
Autos › Re: Clean Title Rav4 2010 4.8M(Negotiable) by redcliff: 9:06am On Jun 12, 2022 |
2010 rav 4 for 5m....nigeria is doomed for destruction |
Politics › Re: RTEAN, Zamfara Government Buy 2,522 Made-In-Nigeria Buses From OMAA Motors by redcliff: 8:59am On Jun 12, 2022 |
Cognitivereason: oga listen to ur self.. a northern state government buying over 2500 at ones isnt that a huge support...
GEJ and bank of industries highly supported innoson his plant before he could start production.. little support does not mean no support at all. Going by the figures, alot more, I mean alot more still needs to be done. how many other governments buy OMAA or innoson? how many people outside Igbo land uses these products? what policies have the govt put in place to see that these manufacturers have their products mainstream? But these same manufacturers are not different from Dangote and look at the kind of support any govt of the day gives him and his conglomerate. Can you say the same for industrialists of Igbo extraction? |
Politics › Re: RTEAN, Zamfara Government Buy 2,522 Made-In-Nigeria Buses From OMAA Motors by redcliff: 8:19am On Jun 12, 2022 |
Major7: Stop tribalism, it's getting us nowhere for heaven sake. Must you bring tribalism into every thread? This is not tribalism, I am only stating the facts less we forget. I did not curse out another tribe, I did not say anything bad about another person, if you feel uncomfortable about it, then surely, there must be some truth in it? if not, why would you think its inappropriate. The system made this all so. |
Politics › Re: RTEAN, Zamfara Government Buy 2,522 Made-In-Nigeria Buses From OMAA Motors by redcliff: 8:05am On Jun 12, 2022 |
Terrier99: Stop making noise. Now many Innosons or OMAA vehicles have your father bought?
I have discovered that only poor Igbos cry marginalisation. Wealthy Igbos are in all across Nigeria selling their goods. Pray that your village deities pity you and remove their hands of poverty from your life so that you too will stop crying marginalisation. Obviously, you are not Igbo, I will pass on giving you a befitting reply because you are not the one wearing the shoe. Bye! |
Politics › Re: RTEAN, Zamfara Government Buy 2,522 Made-In-Nigeria Buses From OMAA Motors by redcliff: 7:53am On Jun 12, 2022 |
This is another Igbo owned business. Until Nigeria realizes that with an Igbo man at the helm of affairs, Nigeria may never become a producing economy. Look at what a tribe is able to achieve in the face of marginalization, little support from the government and hate from other tribes. |
Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by redcliff: 6:16am On Jun 12, 2022 |
Valuepaints20: Am at your service always This painting was not done in Nigeria. Nigerian painters do not know how to not stain anything that is not the wall. They also do not know how to draw a perfect demarcating line with their brush. |
Travel › Re: Truck Driver Drives A Burning Fuel Truck Out Of A Residential Area To Save Lives by redcliff: 3:58pm On Jun 11, 2022 |
Es350: A tanker fully loaded with PMS is burning and some fools are there recording with their phones close to the tanker?
I guess the brains of those morons I saw in that video have been extracted and used to feed chickens. Wtf.  That thing is Diesel. Otherwise, everybody there, even the driver would have died! |
Politics › Re: See Online Poll For Obi, Atiku, Tinubu And Kwankwaso by redcliff: 2:28pm On Jun 11, 2022 |
omo online polls we don see am plenty oo. Na so them hype/whyne donald duke that year! |
Politics › Re: APC: The Intrigues That Swallowed Buhari’s Secret Candidate by redcliff: 9:55am On Jun 11, 2022 |
Golan007: There was no secret candidate.
You guys invented a story you couldnt retract.
If Tinubu had lost the primaries you would have pushed ahead with your false narrative. there was a secret candidate. The north could have fielded Jonathan if they could, tbh. We also saw that apc chairman trying to foist lawan showed that he was the person the president was rooting for otherwise, Buhari would not have said that if he reveals his preferred candidate, the person might be assassinated. If he did not have anyone in mind, he would have said he did not have anyone in mind. Jagaban even without Power is very powerful and this was the reason they could not push him aside. he also had help from his allies up north. |
Business › Re: Femi Otedola Spotted In A ‘Molue’ Bus, Unnoticed by Passengers (Photo, Video) by redcliff: 9:20am On Jun 11, 2022 |
brandmix: Can you balance that with what he has taken illegally through subsidy evasions and how many lives that would have help/ saved if funds were put to good use that is a topic for another day. I answered the question of what the OP said and made after he made comparisons between cubana and otedola. Or should we also say Obi cubana is a drug pusher? |
Business › Re: Femi Otedola Spotted In A ‘Molue’ Bus, Unnoticed by Passengers (Photo, Video) by redcliff: 9:09am On Jun 11, 2022 |
yahoosurepass: If he had made impact in the lives of the poor Nigerians, he would have been recognized...
Obi Cubana couldn't have done such without been recognized Men dont be ignorant in making statements. What Femi Otedola has done for the society, Obi Cubana has not done 1/4 of it. there is a difference between imparting and being mute about it and being a social media celebrity. Even if Femi Otedola is wicked and Evil, the companies he runs are not necessarily obligated by law but encouraged to perform some CSR to their immediate society. Its one of the principles of doing business. Where were you when he gave christian chukwu $50k to go and do surgery for his illness. Femi Otedola recently joined social media due to the pressure from his kids I would assume, he does not need to post about his life, he is not a celebrity but a thorough bred business man. |
Crime › Re: Shola Henry: FOREX Trader Jailed 2 Years For Stealing ₦20m Cryptocurrency by redcliff: 7:44am On Jun 11, 2022 |
which kine mumu judiciary be this? crypto currency and FOREX no be the same thing. which one gan gan he put money inside? |
Crime › Re: Shola Henry: FOREX Trader Jailed 2 Years For Stealing ₦20m Cryptocurrency by redcliff: 7:37am On Jun 11, 2022 |
Kingozymandias: What a stupid judgement. This will encourage me people to go into fraud. I defaud people of N20 million I get 2 years prison sentence or an option to pay just N2.million fine ? Do I get a profit of N18 million?
Wow what a useless judge... She should be suspended you dey read well so? |
Politics › Re: CAN Rejects Muslim/Muslim Presidential Ticket. Says This Is Not 1993 by redcliff: 5:35am On Jun 11, 2022 |
people shouting muslim christian or muslim muslim. Of what use is a VP if his religious views does not align with the president. Shebi na Osibanjo turn to vegetable for Aso rock there and them dey slaughter christians up and down for the country. Wetin guy man do? |
Properties › Re: The 1991 Receipt For 3 Bags Of Cement Found In His Grandma's Box (Photo) by redcliff: 7:33pm On Jun 10, 2022 |
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Politics › Re: Killers Of Fasoranti’s Daughter To Die By Hanging — Ondo Court by redcliff: 6:21pm On Jun 10, 2022 |
WibusJaga:

I expect same Ruling for this Bloodthirsty Islamic Lunatic & his Cohorts caught on video for the barbaric murder of a defenceless girl.  those people who killed Deborah are in a far better place than those who killed Fasoranti's daughter. The reason being that one did not kill for religion and the other killed for religion (officially). This means that if anything happens to them, it threatens their philosophy and teachings of what was instructed them by their prophet. I strongly doubt anything will happen to those people. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Finland Plans To Build Barriers On Its Border With Russia by redcliff: 6:14pm On Jun 10, 2022 |
[quote author= post=113675673]PEACE is all we want in our world.[/quote]mouka |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Died And I Was Punished In Hell, Jesus Sent Me Back by redcliff: 5:13am On Jun 10, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: I am afraid Veronica's story is filled with holes that don't match up to the Gospel as given to us. 
First, she claimed she died, and recounts seeing herself in Hell. The problem with that is only those who are judged by Jesus Christ are to end up in Hell and according to Jesus Christ, in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46, that judgement will only take place after He has returned. Veronica may have died but Jesus Christ has yet to return. So she couldn't have have in the same Hell that was spoken of by Jesus Christ. 
Second, Jesus Christ made clear in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man that no one would be sent back from the dead to warn the living- [b]Luke 16 vs 19 - 3[/b]1 that no one will be sent back from the dead to warn the living. 
I mean think about it. It even the dead do not know whether they are bound for Heaven or for Hell until Jesus Christ returns, what can they really warn the living of? 
Last but not least, Veronica claims demons will invade the world. Why? What for? Is there any evil greater than that which lives right in the hearts of men, the devil? 
If you asked Veronica what it means to live right, she is likely to parrot all she has heard from preached from pulpits, the lies of pastors and mogs, further revealing her story is born of delusions and not Truth.. 
OP, Please learn the Truth of God so you can better separate yourself from the many lies of men even those told by the blind followers of men.  We all know you are Nairaland daddyfreeze abeg move forward. You are here analyzing the word of God with your carnal mind. which is tantamount to foolishness. |
Politics › Re: Nigeria Presidents GDP Performance Since 1999 (SEE PHOTO) by redcliff: 7:55pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
TheStakeHolder: Not peculiar to Nigeria alone.
The decline is due to the global economic recession ocassioned by the pandemic.
 there was pandemic in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 abi? there was also pandemic in 2022? |
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Family › Re: My 17yrs Old Son Is Getting Out Of Hand by redcliff: 9:15am On Jun 09, 2022 |
Women who say they do not need men in their lives, make una see am. God no be mumu. he designed the union of a man and woman in such a way that no one is useless. |
Family › Re: My 17yrs Old Son Is Getting Out Of Hand by redcliff: 9:14am On Jun 09, 2022 |
Mindlog: Come up with more effective ways of disciplining your children without having to use belt on them. Oga, In Nigeria, you cannot rule out the use of force in disciplining your offspring. It works. forget that western culture that people are adopting all in the name of civilization and being enlightened. Oyibo too dey whip their kids. |
Politics › Re: "Nigeria Sai Mai Lafia" - Dino Melaye Hails Atiku by redcliff: 7:27am On Jun 09, 2022 |
Yungstallion: Atiku and Tinubu are the same. They are both thieves who will finish Nigeria if either of them become president Buhari that is not a thief, how better has he done so far in 7years. you sef use your church mind judge. There is no saint in politics but the person who did the right thing and made the right policies and brought the right development in the areas that it was needed. Shebi people consider peter obi as a performer, but he still has this pandora papers thing over his head. choose the devil that will bring the best development to the nation. that is the ultimate goal. If you are looking for saint, make you beg space x make them build you spaceship wey fit reach heaven make you go liase with Jesus to come and rule Nigeria. |
Business › Re: Russia's Ruble Is the World's Best Performing Currency by redcliff: 7:03am On Jun 09, 2022 |
Mumusaphire: thanks sir. So how is it doing well? it is doing well in its performance and not in the difference in the number value you are seeing. Go and look at the movement of the ruble against the dollar and confirm for yourself not what is it worth against another currency like that poster showed you. |
Politics › Re: Dapo Abiodun: Tinubu Is The Candidate To Beat In 2023 by redcliff: 5:51am On Jun 09, 2022 |
newdawnlive: Every body want to associate with success,only iPOB Igbo will do otherwise and continue to market their unmatchable Peter Obi. any one to check lagosprince or what is the Monica of that mumu guy if he still dey alive. awon omoale where did your association with Buhari's success land you? you, I am talking about you.. |
Politics › Re: 2023: We Must Banish PDP, Tinubu Says He Floors Osinbajo, Amaechi, Lawan, Bello by redcliff: 6:01pm On Jun 08, 2022 |
Banish, did nobody tell this man that except you are running a monarchy or total dictatorial government that opposition is healthy for democrazy. Just like Republicans say they will Banish democrats. |