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alanka:
It is only on nairaland I saw people with no brain.

Asking a man like you who created God. Madness of highest order is when you are dragging people into what they don't know, what their brain can not guest of because it is issue of time before the world.

Tell me, if somebody tells you is this, is that will you believe it? You won't became you know that they are just saying what is not true but you just want to drag them into what they don't want

All because you want to look wise, now they are seeing you as unlearned person so they are avoiding your thread. Anyway, dont drag them into what you will not finish as they have said

You just want to drag them into what will later end on abuse, insult etc must you force them to say yes when they have outrightly said no? BAD PEOPLE THREADIND

Xup with u bro? Wats ur stress? Why venting ur anger unnecessarily? If u have nothing to day, den pretend u didn't read my post. The last time I checked, asking curious questions is still legal.

Wilgrea7:
if you're talking of the Judeochristian God, he is believed to be the supreme being by Christians and Jews.. supreme meaning highest.. if he was created, then he isn't the supreme being

If He isn't created by a more super Being, then He doesn't exist.

Akiintom:
And what is the cause?

The Cause is a super Being whom we refer to as God. My qtn is who caused His existence too

AlvanT:
Because you've not discovered how...think of it,do you think it's by chance man has dominion over all living things in the world? If your talking about the metaphysical aspect yes it is possible! Just know that it's kept a secret as an object of control from the powers that be,men can perform miracles,healing,telekinesis,telepathy,etc all this are skills that need proper patience and time to develop.

Man doesn't have dominion over all living things in the world. Dey are still some creatures and events that we have no idea of their unfolding not to talk of dominating dem

Akiintom:
It's bro. It's man that relates with God idea, not robots.



I'm still on the OP's enquiry. For a grand answer to his enquiry, the question must be understood first.

If the OP understand that the idea of God, is an assumed idea ab initio, he will have a better method of enquiry.

The idea of God's existence cannot be said to be an 'assumed idea' because arrangement of events and effects must be an act of a Cause.

Wilgrea7:
this isn't a rebuttal.. i talked of a circle.. i never specified whether it was drawn by man or a computer etc..




I'm going to desist from theist atheist arguments.. the point of the OP is not asking for God's existence.. its of the question “who created God"? .. meaning the op is of the view or assumption that God exists(according to the genesis story) but is trying to ascertain if he has a creator

To add more to ur point, That He exists is unquestionable but who made Him

AlvanT:
Men created the Sky Daddy the real god is in us.

Really? How come we don't do extraordinary things as gods

Wilgrea7:
hello.. i believe we've passed this stage of “evidence" of something beyond our capacity.. neither you nor i have any instrument for determining eternity or measuring it.. the best we have are logical inferences

Are u indirectly promoting dogmatism?

AlvanT:
Not really backing out...if only I can find better words to explain,God performs miracles right? you and I know that not just Christians perform miracles e.g Shamans,islams,judaism,hinduism,etc all perform miracles but why are miracles performed outside Christianity known as magic? It's a known fact that magic is just manipulation of matter,only those with strong mental abilities can pull this stunts...the Church was meant to be a spiritual school but it's obvious that the true purpose have been hijacked by greed and selfishness...it was supposed to be a communion where consciousness are gathered and projected to achieve a common aim.Many churches have lost this purpose and have failed to teach it's members that's why the people that seek God in the wrong way end up not finding it and give up becoming atheists.Woe to our clerics and religious heads.

We all know that no man is ever willing to give in his best where his interest is not involved. Most religious leaders have actually drawn people away from God to their selves because of what they start d to gain. They find it hard to dig deep into the World to find answers to spiritual hunger that Christians are faced with such as the one we are analysing here. They just tell us we should refrain from them.

Akiintom:
* a circle drawn by man, has a beginning and end. With naked eyes, this points can be observed. More observable with special lens.

*Since it's man, that relates with "circular God", men do know it's (God) beginning of existence.

*God is an idea, that begin to exist in the imagination of early men (who were grossly ignorant and perplexed), and were trying to understand the cause of "mysterious"phenomenon like thunder, rainbow, fireflies etc, in their environment.

*men created Gods!

Nice observation but u could be right and wrong

ElsonMorali:
Nobody created God. He always was, he always is and he always will be.

He has no beginning, neither will he have an end.

The concept of time and space is only peculiar to this realm of existence.

And that's all we know, so it's quite difficult to grasp the concept of God and spirituality.

U said that it is quite difficult to grasp the concept of God but also claim that He has no beginning nor end. Isn't that contradictory to your stand of difficulty in knowing him because it holds that u have known him already?

What I'm asking here is this: the fact that He exists presupposes that He must have began to exist somewhere sometime. How come His existence is the puzzle

Wilgrea7:
i don't seem to understand you.. how is the beginning of the circle the end?... if it is, then are you saying that every part of the circle is its beginning and its end?... please clarify.. thanks

Have u drawn a circle before?

AlvanT:
There's no way you can deal with such sensitive issues without involving logic,God is in our core like the scriptures said "don't you know ye are gods and sons of the most high".Religion alone might never satisfy your thirst for this question,except getting costant threats like you've seen above.I believe God is the universe "without him was nothing that was made",everything is energy and bundles of consciousness...these are my pantheistic views.Thought the might help... I rest my case

Have bn enjoying ur meaningful contribution all along. Are u backing out already? U shouldn't. Ppl r still talking. U may meet a point or two to pick from their comments

Wilgrea7:
talking of the concept of an all supreme creator, God is believed to be the creator of everything.. including time.. so its a little out of place to ask for a “time" when God didn't exist before he began to exist.. he being the creator of time, he has been existing.. i would've said existing before time was created.. but that would be saying there was a time before time itself.. which is wrong... or basically you can take time to be a measurement to be a measurement of events in eternity.. so anything that begins to exist had a beginning in the event of eternity and might also have an end.. but God is believed to be eternal, dwelling in eternity.. meaning he didn't have a cause or beginning in eternity.. just like a circle has no beginning or end... God is believed to have neither beginning nor end..



please refer to the point above.. not everything that exists must have a cause.. just everything that BEGINS to exist.. something that his existing is existing.. just is.. like the circle scenario above.. something that begins to exist has a beginning and cause for its existence.. being subject to laws

Ur last sentence tends to invalidate others above it. Even the notion of infinite regression makes little sense to me. The circle as we see it, has a beginning and the end terminates at its beginning. That we fail to notice it doesn't mean it does that have.

AlvanT:
I don't mean to confuse you bruh but think about it as energy cos it can neither be created no destroyed,my question would have been where was God before he created the heavens and the earth according to Genesis 1:1? grab?

God is not and can't be energy. He isn't dat wic he created. Where he was before He created the heavens and the earth might be a question for another day but how He came to be. He didn't just spring forth form somewhere. Another force might be responsible for His coming to be

teelaw4life:
We're both seeking answers to the same question.

Looking forward to anawers

swagguElite:
So far so good! ...people with a WholeLotOfNoSense have contributed into making this question look sinful! ...wat is so wrong with someone asking a question he/she doesn't understand ...if yu have no PerceivedKnowledge about wat to say pls swerve rather Dan saying:

"No start wetin you no go fit finish oo."
OR "stop making researchs about how God was created else you might run mad or even die."

This is a question posted to enlighten others not only d





O.p! ... It is like saying the principal said we should not eat until 12pm ... N someone asked who created or made him principal ...Nd yur answer was " No start Wetin you no fit finish "

Pathetic ...very pathetic! ...we ar here to learn! ...you have nothing to say ...yu have no reason to stay! ... Bon voyage!

Nice observation. Let us not attack ourselves but my question

Zita55:
Read john1,, verses1_4 ..


May the Lord ,help you!!

I just did and with the little I was able to grasp, made reference to God as that which has been from the very beginning. Now, who began that beginning?

teelaw4life:
Lol, you think it's because I'm against the op asking that question. I was only referring to fanatics who'll jump in here to tell him how such a question translates to heresy, blasphemy and what not instead of addressing his question head-on.

If anyone terms the question as an act of heresy, no problem. All I want to know of is why it is one

Wilgrea7:
yes.. you missed the point... everything that BEGINS to exist has a cause/creator... the key word there is “begins".... the view of an all Supreme creator is one which exists.. although does not begin to exist.. not everything that exists must have a cause.. everything that BEGINS to exist.. an all supreme creator is one who never BEGAN to exist.. that's what we call “eternal"... cheers

I have modified that last comment on ur post. U can check it out.

Wilgrea7:
Hello.. God is believed to be eternal.. without beginning or end.. the premise that “everything has a creator" is wrong... the correct premise is “everything that begins to exist has a cause/creator( i used creator because I'm approaching it from a theistic point of view)

.. God is believed to be existing... He is not believed to have begun to exist at any point in time.. so it cannot be said that He was created

Tnks very much. To you, God's existence didn't start nor begin from somewhere;as such, has always been. But to reason, everything dat begins to exist(effect ) has a cause /creator.God's existence not to be said to have started from somewhere is hard to understand. For a thing cannot be that which it is and nothing else.

Interesting

ellagabs:
help me tel am

Dnt know why ppl always avoid this like the plagues of Egypt. We can do more

smartty68:
This question has no answer

I still believe there is or reason why there shouldn't be

danthommies:
stop making researchs about how God was created else you might run mad or even die.
may that not be your portion.

Have I Committed any sin in asking? If yes, back it up with a verse. Let me know my stand.

teelaw4life:
No start wetin you no go fit finish oo.

It's not meant to be an argument but to enlighten me.

I don't mean to sound as an atheist but this question has always popped up in my mind every now and then. Now, religious-wise nlanders, help me out.

How Did God Come To Be?

I'm not even impressed

dollyjoy:
Some guys are soooooooo stvpid!!!

And one of dem is bleeping ur f***king ass every now n den

Let's be truthful to ourselves. Most of the points mentioned I. That article are facts. My only problem is that he is over generalising.