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ipin:
Thanks but can i do that without an account, dont have a twitter account.

kabrud:
I wonder if this is the best you can do or you felt you got it right so there wouldn't be any possible response to your post.

Abdulgaffar22:
According to the Muslims, Qur’an is the last and final revelation from God. They believe that Qur’an was revealed “word for word” by God to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) through Angel Gabriel. But how true is this belief hold by the Muslims? Is it not possible for anyone to write a book and then claim that it is a revelation from God? How then are we completely sure that Qur’an was truly authored and revealed by God? This is a logical question that demands a logical answer. If the Qur’an was not authored and revealed by God, then it must have been authored by someone else other than God. This is totally unavoidable since a book cannot be authored by itself. Therefore, we can get to the root of answer to this logical question-“Who is the original author of the Qur’an?”- by analyzing all the possible authors put forward by the atheists and the non Muslims to explain the origin of the book we known as Qur’an.
Many of the non-Muslims believe that Qur’an was deliberately fabricated by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Some of them proclaim that the prophet was secretly taught by one or more human teacher(s). Again, few of them believe that the prophet was a crazy and a pathological liar rather than being a deliberate liar. Yet very few among them went to an extent of saying that the book was inspired by Satan. These are the four possible alternatives that Non-Muslims usually put forward to explain the origin of the Qur’an since they insist that the book was not revealed by Almighty God. In fact, there is no any other possible alternative; all alternatives have been exhausted. Any other alternative you can think of can still be grouped under one of these four alternatives. Hence, if we are able to nullify these four possible alternatives, then all the sincere atheists, who deny the existence of God, and all the truthful believers, who are yet to become Muslims, must have no option other than to believe in Qur’an as the final word of God and then accept Islam. Now, let us analyze these possible alternatives one by one.
Is it possible that Qur’an was deliberately fabricated by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)?
It is a well known fact that the prophet can neither read nor write. Qur’an 29:48 says; “Neither did you (O Muhammad) read any book before this Qur’an, nor did you write any book with your right hand. In that case, indeed, the followers of falsehood might have doubted”. Now if this verse is a great lie and the prophet could read and write, then how could he have comfortably called himself illiterate and recite this very verse in the presence of his close relatives and his friends who knew him very much and also believed in him as a true prophet of God? Would a false prophet lie to his close relatives about the matter he knew they are well acquainted with? If the prophet was able to read and write, his immediate family and his close friends must have been well acquainted with this fact. Therefore, it is very unlikely that lying to them about this matter will ever come to his mind. He can lie to the strangers about this matter. But he can never fabricate such a lie in the presence of his close relatives who must have known or heard about his educational history. In fact, nobody, during the life time of the prophet, ever challenged him or disputed with him over this matter. Now, having established that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was truly an illiterate, then how could he have fabricated many verses and plagiarized the Bible and then come up with such an eloquent book like Holy Qur’an? Before he could come out with any fabricated or plagiarized verses of the Bible or chapters and then reciting them to the hearing of his companions directly from his memory, he must have written down the verses, memorized them and rehearsed the recitation many times in his private room. Yet all these activities would be very difficult, if not impossible, for an illiterate person. We have never heard it in history that an illiterate person authored a book. If it was just a few lines of words, then we might say it is possible for an illiterate person to fabricate and memorize such words. But Qur’an consists of many chapters with large number of long verses. For example, Suratul-Baqara, chapter two of the Qur’an, is made up of two hundred and eighty-six verses. For a person that can neither read nor write to plagiarize, fabricate and memorize such large number of words is impossible. Even if we assumed that it took many days for him to recite the verses little by little to the hearing of his scribes for proper documentation, there is still need for him to memorize the whole chapter later on. This is because there are many reports from the companions that the prophet used to recite this very chapter and many other chapters of Qur’an from memory while leading his followers in five daily prayers and also while observing his night prayer. All these activities are impossible for an illiterate person who has not received any divine favor from God. In fact, God mentioned this very fact as follows: Certainly, We have made this Qur’an easy on your tongue, in order that they give heed (Qur’an 44:58). Besides, during the time of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh), one thousand four hundred and fifty years ago, Bible was yet to be translated into Arabic language. This very fact, coupled with his inability to read and write, completely nullify the assertion that the prophet came up with the Qur'an by plagiarizing the Bible.

Again, is it possible for the prophet to have a secret human teacher who assisted him to fabricate the Qur’an since he could neither read nor write? Even if we assume that the secret human teacher assisted him to fabricate the Qur’an, there would still need for him to read, revise and memorized the fabrications before reciting them to his companions. Again, this is impossible for an illiterate person. Furthermore, how can that teacher be kept in secret for good 23 years and remain hidden from his immediate family and companions who believed in him as a true prophet of God? Besides, all the points raised above to disprove the plausibility of the first alternative can also be leveled against this second alternative because both presumed that the author of Holy Qur’an was an impersonator and deliberate liar against God.
Is it possible that prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was crazy to the extent that such craziness made him to be a pathological liar against God rather than being a deliberate liar against Him? Before that craziness would become manifest to the extent of causing him to impersonate God and boldly lying against Him, it must have been detected and reported by his immediate family, and there would be no way to believe him as true prophet of God. Even if we assume that his immediate family managed to hide the secret from the public, there is no way for such craziness to escape the notice of the companions of the prophet who always stayed with him and believed in him as a true prophet of God to the extent of dying as a martyr in the battle field. Besides, how can a crazy author come up with such a clear and meaningful book like Qur’an?
Finally, is it possible that Qur’an was inspired by Satan? This is the most illogical and weakest of all the possible alternatives. In fact, a single verse from the Qur’an is enough to destroy this baseless assertion. Qur’an 16:98 declares as follows: When you want to recite the Qur’an, seek God’s protection from Satan the accursed one. How could Satan gives a command that before reading his book you must first of all seek refuge and protection with God against him? Does this make any sense to you? Furthermore, we read in the Qur’an as follows; it is not the devils that have brought it (the Qur’an) down. It would neither suit them nor would they be able to produce it. Verily, they have been removed far from (even a chance of) hearing it. So invoke not with God another god lest you be among those who will receive punishment (Qur’an 26:210-213). If the devils are the author of Qur’an as some people proclaimed, then how would the devils feel comfortable to say that revelation of such a book like Qur’an does not suit and befit them? Again, if Satan is the leader of all the devils, then how would devils feel comfortable to say that anybody who wants to read their book should first of all seek God’s protection against their leader, the accursed one (Qur’an 16:98)? Which of the devil’s aim would be achieved by so strongly condemning and sabotaging their leader? If it is agreed that Satan is evil and promote disobedience to God’s commandment, whereas Qur’an is full of warning against idolatry and all other evil practices, how can the two be reconciled? How could Satan have enticed and misled a person to guide the idol-worshippers in the ancient Mecca to the idea of believing in one God and all biblical prophets including Jesus Christ? To hold such a view is repugnant to reason, as Satan would only have undermined himself and his objectives by furthering the cause of God. Even the Bible attests to this fact: And if Satan has risen up against himself and his divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end (Mark 3:26).

Since all the four possible alternatives put forward by the non-Muslims to explain the origin of Qur’an are unacceptable to reason, therefore God must exist and Qur’an still maintain its identity as being the word of God, the creator of the heaven and the earth
If God would allow a liar to impersonate Him, then He should have clearly informed us in the Bible just like Jesus informed us about his own impersonation: “Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, saying ‘ I am the Christ’, and will deceive many(Matthew 24:4-5)”.See how Jesus declared in an unambiguous terms that many liars would impersonate him. This is even enough to prove that we cannot have 100% assurance over all the words attributed to Jesus in the books of the New Testament. But you can never find a single biblical verse where God informed us that a great liar is going to impersonate Him. If God of truth and wisdom would also allow a liar to impersonate Him, He should also have informed us in a very precise term just like Jesus did. But instead of pre-informing us about His impersonation by a great liar, God only informed us about “a prophet like Moses” which God would put His words in his mouth; I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in My name, I Myself will call him into account. But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die. And if you say in your heart; How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken? When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is the word the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him (Deuteronomy 18:18-22). Base on these very verses, what then can we say about the Qur’an whose author spoke in the name of the Lord of Israel. For example we read in the Qur’an as follows: “O children of Israel! Remember My special favor which I bestowed upon you, and fulfill your covenant with Me as I fulfill My covenant with you, and fear none but Me. And believe in what I have sent down ( i:e this Qur’an) confirming that which is with you, and be not the first to reject it, nor sell My verses for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone(Qur’an 2:40-41). Are we going to accept it as the word of the Lord of Israel or reject it as the word of a great impersonator? In the verses of the Bible underlined just above, the only acid test put forward by God to distinguish His actual word from the word of His impersonator is that the word of such impersonator would not come to pass or come true. But unfortunately for the Jews and the Christians, Qur’an contains many words of prophecy which have come to pass and come true. For example, one of the great prophecies is that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) will be victorious over his enemies (Qur’an 58:20-21). Another prophecy is that Islam will be established and continue to spread, and the number of Muslims will continue to grow (Qur’an 24:55, 110:1-2, 48:28). Another prophecy is that Qur’an will be protected from destruction and corruption (Qur’an 15:9). Another prophecy is that Qur’an will be made easy for memorization (Qur’an 54:17, 22, 40). Another prophecy is that people will continue to pay visitation to the house of God in Mecca (Qur’an 22:26-28, 2:125). All these prophecies are known to be true. If they were not true, we would not have a religion known as Islam and we would not have a book known as Qur’an in the world of today. All these prophecies are general ones known to all. However, there are some special miraculous prophecies in the Qur’an that God bestows upon whomsoever He wills among His servants. In fact, it happened that I personally experienced one of these miraculous prophecies; for whosoever care to believe me. I swear by God that this incident happened to me many years before I later discovered that Qur’an specifically made mention of it in a very clear and definite terms. As a matter of fact, it was among so many things that motivated me to write this very write-up. As usual, I was just reciting the Qur’an on that fateful day. When I got to a verse which I could not vividly remember, suddenly, my body began to be shaking. This act of shaking, which lasted for almost a minute, was so strong to the extent that the Qur’an I was holding fell out of my hand. When this act of shaking stopped, my heart began to beat faster and all my skin felt cool. It was after many years, when I was reading the translated Qur’an that I came across the verse that read thus; God has sent down the best statement, a book that its parts resemble each other in goodness and truth, oft-repeated. The skins of those who fear their Lord shiver from it. Then their skin and their heart soften to the remembrance of God. That is the guidance of God. He guides therewith whom He pleases and whomever God sends astray, for him there is no guide (Qur’an 39:23). In fact, I could not believe my two eyes when I saw this verse. I was so happy but at the same time, I wanted to be sure that the word translated as “shiver” in the English translation of Holy Qur’an actually corresponds to the original Arabic word. This Arabic word is “taqsha’irru. So I quickly searched for Arabic-English dictionary and I later discover that the word can be translated as “shake or shiver or tremble or quake”. This is how that very incident strengthens my faith in Holy Qur’an as the word of God. My faith still increases further when I came across another verse which says; We will show them Our signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this Qur’an is the truth (Qur’an 41:53). Therefore, according to those verses in the book of Deuteronomy quoted above, Qur’an is the last and final word of God because of its speaking in the name of God and the fulfillment of its general and special miraculous prophecies. But If you think that I am only lying about my own personal experience I narrated above and that the author of Qur’an was only impersonating God, then wait for the day you are going to die and meet the reality of this very verse; And whoever will not listen to my words that the prophet shall speak in My name, I Myself will call him into account (Deuteronomy 18:19). Does this not terrify you? God Almighty is threatening to call you to account if you did not listen to His word; yet you feel relax and you think there is no problem despite the overwhelming evidence put forward above to prove that Qur’an must be authored by God. If it was according to the divine plan that the author of Qur’an would be a great impersonator of God, then Bible should be full of warning and information about this impersonator. But instead of warning us and pre-informing us about the so-called liar that is going to impersonate Him just like Jesus talked about his own impersonators in Matthew 24:4-5 (quoted above), God only demonstrated to us through His dealing with Hananiah (the false prophet who spoke in the name of God in the Bible) that He would never allow such a thing to happen for a long time; Then the prophet Jeremiah said to Hananiah the prophet, ‘Listen, Hananiah! The Lord has not sent you, yet you have persuaded this nation to trust in lies. Therefore this what the Lord says: I am about to remove you from the face of the earth. This very year you are going to die, because you have preached rebellion against the Lord. In the seventh month of that same year, Hananiah the prophet died (Jeremiah 28:15-17). Therefore, if God did not even allow Hananiah to live for just a year, then how could he have allowed the supposed author of Qur’an to impersonate Him for good 23 years? This is indeed a food for thought for the sincere Jews and Christians who truly believe in the existence of God!

abduljabbar4:
... even when you add and change the verses for your selfish reasons

sarz:
LEMME SEE HOW GOOD YOU ARE IN THINKING: A
POLICE OFFICER HAD A BROTHER,BUT THE
BROTHER HAD NO BROTHER.HOW COULD THAT
BE.

kabrud:
1.It is consumed as food. 2.A very good substitute in za aza room. 3.

kabrud:
2.A very good substitute in za aza room. 3.

kabrud:
This must cost fortunes, considering its 'importance'.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN, SO YOU WON'T SEE ANYTHING.

Such as, that, since I am the one doing the quoting, the Scriptures obviously have significant meaning to ME.

Also since you do not quote any Scriptures yourself, Scripture has no meaning to you.

[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6.

ALL The Commandments
which I Command thee this Day
shall ye observe to do,
that ye may live,
and multiply,
and go in and possess the Land
which The LORD
sware unto your fathers.
2. And thou shalt remember all the Way
which The LORD thy God led thee
these forty years in the wilderness,
to humble thee,
and to prove thee,
to know what was in thine heart,
whether thou wouldest
keep His Commandments,
or no.
3. And He humbled thee,
and suffered thee to hunger,
and fed thee with manna,
which thou knewest not,
neither did thy fathers know;
that He might make thee know

"THAT MAN DOTH NOT
LIVE BY BREAD ONLY,
BUT BY EVERY WORD
THAT PROCEEDETH
OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD
DOTH MAN LIVE."

4. Thy raiment waxed not old upon thee,
neither did thy foot swell, these forty years.
5. Thou shalt also consider in thine heart,

“THAT, AS A MAN
CHASTENETH HIS SON,
SO THE LORD THY GOD
CHASTENETH THEE.”

6. Therefore thou shalt keep
The Commandments of The LORD thy God,
to walk in His Ways, and to fear Him.

A WORSHIPPER OF GOD CAN NEVER COMPLAIN THAT SOMEONE WAS GIVING HIS SOUL "TOO MUCH FOOD."

[color=silver].[/color] PROVERBS 27:17.

17. Iron sharpeneth iron;
so a man sharpeneth
the countenance of his friend.



THAT IS OFF-TOPIC- CONFIRMING THAT YOU ONLY CAME HERE TO DIVERT THE TOPIC AND DERAIL THE THREAD.

cooncudee:
After observing the argument between the proponents of atheism and theism, I've realized that the bone of contention is the 'occurrence of paranormal phenomenon (extrasensory perception (ESP), telekinesis, ghosts, poltergeists, life after death, reincarnation, faith healing, human auras, and so forth)'

Now, all theists believe in paranormal phenomenon and that they are divine, while some atheists believe they are made up and some others believe they came be explained.

This has caused a lot of back and forth between the two parties. Both parties present lots of examples to back up thier claims, but none of these claims have proved to be sufficient enough to triumph over counterclaims, which has left thier beliefs questionable.

All the threads on this topic lack substantial evidence that no conclusions can be drawn from them.

My opinion:
I don't see the point in entering into an argument/opening a thread on 'this is the right ideology' when you don't have enough/sufficient evidence/proof. to back up your claim and sufficient knowledge of the opposing ideology to disprove it.

My advice:
The religious people should desist from arguing this topic (because you cannot win, you can't provide the evidence the atheist is asking for) and face thier faith. Pray for them. Preach to (not argue with) them, and if they refuse to listen. Leave them alone, the truth will be revealed on Doomsday.

The atheists on the other hand, actually have something to lose, because if doomsday eventually comes and God's existence turned out to be true, you'll end up with the short end of the stick. Therefore, you have to study /find enough evidence to disprove the existence of God and to provide explanations to all the unexplained phenomenon that has be attributed to providence.

And for people like me........you can keep waiting
Being an atheist is definitely harder than being a theist.

ItsTheBachelor:
Hahahaha.
Funny one. But they wouldn't be smiling saying that na.

oaroloye:
THE UNBELIEF OF UNBELIEVERS is highly Relevant to BELIEVERS, because these are the people who are going to terminate their lives, if they are not strong enough in The LORD, and in The Power of His Might.

The lack of Faith of Unbelievers and Hypocrites is why TRUE CHRISTIANS must WORK HARDER to find better ways to Save them and Heal them.

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 5:1-20.

AND seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain:
and when he was set, his Disciples came unto him:
2. And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
3. "Blessed are the poor in spirit:
for theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven.
4. "Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5. "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the Earth.
6. "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after Righteousness:
for they shall be filled.
7. "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8. "Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9. "Blessed are the Peacemakers:
for they shall be called The Children of God.
10. "Blessed are they which are persecuted
for righteousness' sake:
for theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven.
11. "Blessed are ye, when men
shall revile you, and persecute you,
and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely,
for my sake.
12. "Rejoice, and be exceeding glad:
for Great is your Reward in Heaven:
for so persecuted they the Prophets
which were before you.
13. "Ye are the Salt of the Earth:
but if the salt have lost his savour,
wherewith shall it be salted?
it is thenceforth good for nothing,
but to be cast out,
and to be trodden under foot of men.
14. "Ye are the Light of the World.
A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15. "Neither do men light a candle,
and put it under a bushel,
but on a candlestick;
and it giveth light
unto all that are in the house.
16. “Let your light so shine before men,
that they may see your good works,
and glorify your Father Which is in Heaven.
17. "Think not that I am come
to destroy The Law, or The Prophets:
I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18. "For verily I say unto you,

'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS,
ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE SHALL IN NO WISE
PASS FROM THE LAW,
TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'

19. "Whosoever therefore shall break one
of these least Commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called The Least
in The Kingdom of Heaven:
but whosoever shall do and teach them,
the same shall be called Great
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
20. "For I say unto you,

'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
SHALL EXCEED (THE RIGHTEOUSNESS)
OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' "

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



WHAT IS THE RELEVANCE OF THAT SILLY REMARK?

If someone were killing themselves, is THAT what you would say to them?

Is that what you should say?

GOD BEING GOD HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THOSE WHO CANNOT ACCESS HIS RESOURCES.

The Martyrs in the meme died under the DECEPTION that DWIGHT LYMAN MOODY perpetrated: THAT GOD LOVED THEM- though He was doing NOTHING to save their lives.

Many Christians ignore their examples, and expect that their own fate would be different- as if God loved them better than those dead at the hands of ISIS and similar.

ashantigirl83:
I just feel like my life is a bad dream.

My mother was diagnosed with stage 3 lung cancer in July 2014 and given 1 year to live.

Thank GOD, she defied doctors and is still here almost 3 years later.

However, the cancer had spread to the bone and brain. Although they were able to 'cure' the cancer in the bone/brain, the one in the lung remains and still growing.

Therefore they have stopped treatment and said she only has months e.g. 3 months to live. This was in Jan 2017.

I feel like we are being punished. We have made mistakes in the past and repented, but I feel like we are being punished.

I am sad and angry at God, there are people who have done worse - those evil politicians etc and they are enjoying their life whilst a mother is just trying to train her kids and enjoy her life quietly (her children - I am oldest age 23, middle child age 21 and youngest age 18) with her husband (my dad)

I am confused, look at those girls who had children as a teenager or at a young age out of wedlock - should I have joined them so that my mother would have been able to see my kids and hold her grandchild? I am angry, bitter and jealous of a girl who is my age and had a baby out of wedlock age 20, her mother and grandmother are alive to see that child..whilst I am still a virgin age 23, and my mother is terminally ill only expected to live a few months and not see my children/her grandchildren - who gained?

I still have hope in God, as since November 2016 they were saying she only has weeks but she is still here, but now they said months in Jan 2017.

She has made 'some' progress considering her situation, e.g. she used to have seizures up to 5 times in one day but after many prayers the seizure has stopped on itself. She could not walk, and was on wheelchair - but now after many prayers and annointing oil she can walk and climb stairs. She seems to be having a sharper memory and she looks very healthy, but she still has that diagnosis over her and is still very unwell.

I feel like dying because I feel like my life is falling apart! Like we are cursed! Our enemies will be happy and those who have been jealous of my families previous success will be secretly happy if she dies.

Yesterday, I felt like breaking down - I am not from a rich family at all, but yesterday my dad paid a herbalist £1,500 which is 591,997.58 Nigerian Naira because we are desperately searching for alternative treatments as the doctors have given up on her. £1,500 is no joke, we are not rich at all and I know he suffered to get that money but we are desperate, and the man looks like a 419 but we are desperate.

This shame is too much, look what we have been reduced to!


I was originally catholic but now have joined redeemed and another church aswell as my catholic so I am currently running up and down going to 3 different churches aswell as praying at home. Plus trying to study for my final exams but finding it hard to concentrate.
My life is a mess,please help me

If my mum dies it is either because
1. God is not a good God and he let her die. Spare me that BS about if she dies its for the best and God knows best, what can be best about an 18 year old boy losing his mother? A mother who don dey sow sow sow and neva fit reap?

2. God is not real... and I have been living and defending a lie my whole life, and I have no divine protection...