Nadaken:
slave of beer you have no question

I have trashed them



In the absence of no tangible question or contribution other than crying like a broken record

I would like to draw a conclusion to this because the intelligent one has to control debate and end it when the respondent has become a joke

Mind you hope you know you look stupid before Muslims claiming your own god approves alcohol whereas the allah they ascribe to the Bible God forbids it

Nadaken:
slave of beer you have no question

I have trashed them

Nadaken:
Trash

Usually grasping at straws lines

I study Bible for myself, for my spirit, I don't follow man

All the debate I have exposed you so far which you are struggling with saying i cherry pick Bible verses

Bring your own verses now, you can't find

You better hide in shame, you have been roundly defeated in this debate like your colleague who is now at large

rex21:

You are very funny o. Wine is an english word right ??
Please, look up the dictionary definition of wine

Moreover, the write up said The wine is aged in elongated amphorae, known as 'Gaza jars'.
(Third paragraph to the bottom) ever heard the saying that wine tastes better as it gets older. Can you say thesame for 'grape juice'.

Abegi, dont drink wine so that you can get a hold of yourself and avoid misbehaviour due to drunkenness, not because wine was condemned by the bible. this is what you should preach

rex21:

All these points and i ddnt say anything ??
Did you check the meaning of wine ??
Did you read the paragraph i asked ??
Now for a simple one. Please show me a non alcoholic wine.

Nadaken:
you have not said anything not all wine is alcoholic

Nadaken:
oh, I suppose you are athiest too, don't run yet you have been asking for my attention

What do you mean by pentecostal Bible or do you belong to the Mary worshipping set who say they honour her.

If you Catholics think drinking beer in front of Mary is prescribed in the bible it is false

I said showed you the New King James translation why don't you go online and just find it

The translation says drink wine and buy what you desire, but you hypocrites changed it to strong wine (no surprise because Catholics where the original custodians of these translations and they drink beer)

But instead of been stupid why don't you ask yourself what God has been saying about alcohol before that verse?

God is consistent not bending in his laws before the Deuteronomy scripture he has condemned alcohol already in Leviticus and numbers

Leviticus 10:9

“Do not drink wine or strong drink, neither you nor your sons with you, when you come into the tent of meeting, so that you will not die—it is a perpetual statute throughout your generations

Above scripture is why i love God, you Catholics said you can drink alcohol in God's presence but he has said don't drink alcohol when you come to his presence

Never Forget that Leviticus and Numbers comes before Deuteronomy, God can not command his people explicitly not to drink strong wine and changes it later on

Numbers 6:3

he shall abstain from wine and strong drink; he shall drink no vinegar, whether made from wine or strong drink, nor shall he drink any GRAPE JUICE nor eat fresh or dried grapes.

It is clear from the above that there was different types of wine gotten from grapes in those days (the one of alcohol and the plain grape juice)

Isaiah 5:11

Woe to those who rise early in the morning that they may pursue strong drink,
Who stay up late in the evening that wine may inflame them!

As you can see the prophet of God is cursing those who drink strong drink wether day or night

God recommends grape juice as wine, you hypocrites are making a fool of yourselves

You see the deceit you hypocrites beer drinkers did in Deuteronomy 14:26, because it talks about God giving a little freedom in merriment you people changed it to your wildest fantasy of drinking beer forgetting God has settled that

Nadaken:
I actually figured out your question is irrelevant as I have trashed that already why exposing the other ignorant athiest that has since run away after complaining I back my debate with too many solid scriptures which leaves him shallow

So quoting you is just a duplication

This is the Deuteronomy 14:26


◄ Deuteronomy 14:26 ►

New King James Version
And you shall spend that money for whatever your heart desires: for oxen or sheep, for wine or similar drink, for whatever your heart desires; you shall eat there before the LORD your God, and you shall rejoice, you and your household.

So what is your point exactly?

Go and get educated, the ignorance you speak of is from your mirror

Nadaken:
An athiest that doesn't believe in the bible but want to argue the history of the bible with the one who believes is this not madness

My ability to quote the Bible shows I am grounded in the historical antecedents of my Bible and why they happen

Your inability to know Jack shows you are clueless about Bible history and antecedents

Jews are commanded by Yaweh not to eat any day leftover meal or drink and that is the law

You can't be blabbing without quoting and referencing the archeological, historical heritage of the Jews which is their Torah/Bible

Scientists who are even athiest still use Bible passages to trace anything concerning jews

Yaweh gave his laws for a memorial, Practicing Jews don't eat left overs whether passover or no passover (until I bursted you, you were saying it was only manna for the Jews in the wilderness for manna time, you have shifted goal post after knowing it's a law for ever)

Genesis 32:32, NIV: "Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob's hip was touched near the tendon."

What if i told you that Jews do not eat the tendon of a meat to date because an angel touched the hip of Jacob during wrestle.

It's all practice and culture you don't tell people what they practice

What muslim do is irrelevant because Muslims are not Yaweh chosen people, neither did Yaweh give me that law.

Nadaken:
you have not said anything not all wine is alcoholic

Nadaken:
And where was it stated that wine is alcohol there

The wine is always referenced with sweetness meaning it's grape wine

ntrukpum:
Hello friends, my daughter is very far ahead of her peers (class mates and outsiders) academically and otherwise. She started school when she was 2yrs. 3wks in school she had already knw how to write 1 to 10, A to F (I mean write not just to read).

Now she is 3yrs and she does things extraordinary. She can write 1 to 200, Aa to Zz without anybody assistance. She does her H/W alone, can read and spell two letter words. She sings a lot. I wanted her to play at least one musical instrument b4 she turns 5.

Two yrs ago, I had this vision of grooming "exceptionally intelligent" kids btw 9-12yrs to study outside their normal school curriculum. I mean a 9yr old kid in JS1 answering physics and advance maths question. Am still working on it. But my child is just 3yrs old and i am begining to be afraid. Married with two kids, an average of 30k monthly income as a private school teacher, I think, I lack the financial resources to push my daughter to where she deserves.

I need proper advice on how to guide her now.

anorexicmuster:


Well the only way Nigeria can give back to the people is by raising enough revenue so that we can do that

Subsides on petrol and power and many otjer things prevent growth in those sectors which means reduced taxes .Why? Because as i have said many times it involves price controls which reduceprofitability , job growth and investment

Then because most of us dont pay taxes ( it is a fact and the World bank has criticised our goverment for it and it is because most of us work in the informal sector) goverment ia forced to rely on oil which doesn't give us enough of a revenue because of fluctuating prices

All that is part of the bad management of the government. Then corruption and nepotism is the cherry on the top so tp speak

But most Nigerians are a Marxist anyway. They want goverment to spend imaginary money on solving real problems. No wonder we are in debt.

Good morning

anorexicmuster:


They are running it at a loss because they are the government, not a business.

Back when British railways was run by their government, tickets were very cheap, yet many of the trains, while running were rundown and poor.

Then the government privatized the railways. While ticket prices went up too high, the quality of the trains went up.

Government is not a business. They exist to 'serve the people'. So, they run things at 'people's prices' . That's how many communist countries used to roll...till they started running out of money , and collapsed. Now, the private sector runs a lot of things in those same countries.

At the end of the day, they (NRC) would be forced to privatize because they would run at a loss.(AND then they have to pay back the chinese loans)

In a way, I am not surprised the government is running rail at a loss. That's how they run most things around here. And, eventually...down the line, they may privatize the thing lock, stock and barrel. Or keep running at a loss, meanwhile no profit to fix the train carriages well, to upgrade the lines, to pay for new innovations. And then corruption and patronage sets in too.

anorexicmuster:


If subsidy goes

1. Marketers would earn more profits

2. Goverment would save money and would actually earn more money in taxes

3. There would be more refinereis since it would now ve profitable to refine fuel in Nigeria

4. No more.sharp practices like smuggling and so on

5. There would be more jobs and more jobs and more investment. That for me is what i care about more than the above reasons

We are all shortchanging ourselves by using cheap fuel. And the results are bad refinereis, bad practices and no jobs. And trillions dowb the drain.

Venezuela sells fuel at 40.naira. they also lose 18 billion dollars to smuggling alone

You can laugh, you can call me a propaganda man and a fuel marketer. I am not. I dont even know any fuel marketers personally. I am.not in governemt nor do i back any of the main parties. I backed fuel subsidy for a long time until i got my wake up call in 2012

Thanks for chatting anyway. But as for me price controls and subsides dont work. Whoever is in charge.

Cheap fuel is really expensive

anorexicmuster:


The problem with subsidy is that by its nature everyone is shortchanged. And everyone resorts to sharp practices...whether it be government corruption or false claims to make money...because if you don't , you lose.

At the end of the day, price controls don't work. Someone is going to lose money as a result.

Agboriotejoye:


Kudos for engaging the guy. You're the 1999999th person on this forum who will floor his flawed and false claims.
My joy is the govt have now come out to spell it clearly, the reason everyone knows subsidy can't be removed.
Subsidy is social order. It is like food stamps or welfare bonuses. Remove it and in a month, you'll witness an Arab Spring of some sort.
Even with subsidy, we are having social challenges.
As for that dude, I suspect he's a fuel marketer or related to one, or engaged by one to push his propaganda. He has opened many monikers and failed severally, even vowing at one instance to leave the forum for good.
But here he is again. Man must whack

anorexicmuster:


1.The matketers were.engaging in sharp practices because subsidy made it difficult for them to make a profit.

Back in 2012 it cost N99 to import one liter of.fuel. Marketers then sold same fuel at N65


By 2015 it cost N132 to import one liter of.fuel. Marketers were then selling it at N87.

Meanwhile the falling price of crude meant available revenue to pay the difference ie subsidy was running out. Oil was at 108 dollars per barrel in 2012, by 2015 oil fell to 60 dollars per barrel

Under such circumstances the only way to make a profit was by sharp practices


2. Even now marketers are barely breaking even. If not for the fact that goverment also subsidises the transport of.fuel from.depot to base they would have been broke


3. Add the fact that the cost of refining fuel goes up...

anorexicmuster:


NNPC is the sole importer of fuel since 2016.They also pay for subsidies out of their pocket. Government helps too

Also many marketers made profit pre 2016 by making false subsidy claims and by smuggling to neighbouring African countries where fuel is more expensive . And by selling on the black market during scarcity times

There are a lot of reasons why gej wanted to remove subsidy.

anorexicmuster:


Good evening. I have tried.

If you bought shoes at N8000 a pair to sell at N14000 a pair to earn a profit of N6000 a pair and then government comes in and forces you to sell at N4000 a pair meaning you lose N4000 but goverment pays you a subsidy of N2000 reducing your loss to N2000 a pair, would you like it?

You wont like it if i called you a communist . Because that is what you are. You don't want businesses to make enough profit because you think it ends up in their pockets. It does not.

You cannot be business friendly and be supporting price controls which are an inherent part of subsidies

anorexicmuster:


The cost of refining petrol is not static. It rises

So anytime oil prices rise , the cost of refinong petrol rises.

To keep petrol cheap in Nigeria , we have to pay more money to the sector in the form pf subsidy to compesate them for the losses made selling petrol at a cheap price.

Thats a large part of the reason why we don't see much benefit when oil prices rise. We are spending a large part of the revenue from crude on subsidising fuel


Plus we import because subsides make it unprofitable to refine petrol in Nigeria. Unless your name ia dangote and you have enough collateral to take loans from banks to build a refinery

anorexicmuster:


Yeah it sounds funny but when one thinks about it it isn't funny anymore

anorexicmuster:
So we keep on pouring money down a bottomless pit.

Also subsides is why we dont have more refineries. Who wants to refine fuel at above 250 naira a liter and sell it at 162 naira per liter? Unless you are Dangote

HarunaWest:
Una no dey hear word ni. Stop taking your phones to the kitchen...The gas might react with the phone and just expode..

jos4kay:
They tell members to store their treasure in heaven while they kept theirs in Pandora. That's fraud

Gandollaar:
Guy are you being serious or just capping?

Illuminatiship:
My elder brother say today as he wan use POS send me money POS swallow him ATM na true?

Simplythebest:
I was reading to see where they said he launder money through the company but i didn't see. So as a business man u need to reduce cost in other to survive. Am yet to see were they said he use the company to embezzle money.

They should tell us the real thieves.

RapistOnBail:
Big brother naija wey no concern me at all go make me fulfill my promises take down my account?

Even Buhari sef no fulfill him promises and him still be president, who I come be?

FalseProphet1:
Get over the excitement son, it's definitely going to be premature, cos you aren't going home with the bag, if you win it, I'll stop prophesying on Nairaland.

This I have seen.

RapistOnBail:



If this yellow fagggot wins that 90million I swear I go deactivate my account (Rapistonbail)


It’s either General Pere or Playboy Cross for the funds.

FalseProphet1:
Get over the excitement son, it's definitely going to be premature, cos you aren't going home with the bag, if you win it, I'll stop prophesying on Nairaland.

This I have seen.

MPESA:


Re-read am again, you go understand wetin him talk.