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Princewell2012:
It seems there is a little contradiction between the teaching of Jesus and that of Paul?
1 Paul introduces the five fold ministry. But Jesus never mentioned anything on that. He only peaches that Christians should go into the world and make disciples of all nation. He want everybody to be saved. He want sinners to become his children. He wants everybody to become bornagain and receives the Holyspirit. But Paul makes church to become like an office. I used to tell people that every bornagain Christians are one, and we only have one pastor and one shepherd, which we were all looking at, which is Jesus.

Good, let take a look at the duty of a prophet. Who is a prophet? One who prophesy. And what is he prophesying? Good that is another question completely. Any prophet who is prophesying anything rather than preaching the gospel is completely not a Christian infact i can call him a prophet of doom.

Paul make Christians to look unto their pastors rather than looking unto Jesus.

If it is anything to go by. Then every bornagain child of God is a prophet, pastor, teacher, evangelist, and apostle. Why because they were operating by, and from the same spirit. And God is not partial.

Now today Paul make men to lobby for titles. His royal Highness,
his Holiness, reverend, arch bishop, bishop, pope, senior pastor, climate, general overseer, and doctor.

I repeat the teaching of Paul contradict little to that one of Christ. And am not happy about.

Everything paul represented is purely antagonistic to Jesus. Paul and Jesus teaching are diametrically opposed

blueAgent:
How can you claim to be a disciple of Jesus when you reject his word the Bible?

Don't get it twisted. The bible is not the word of God. It's a collection of different books by different authors

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Are you a born again Christian?
Can you give me biblical verses to buttress your claims?

I'm not a Christian. I'm a disciple of Jesus. All Paul's teachings contradict Jesus'. About fatherhood, shepherd, master, teacher, death, sacrifices etc.

Kalatium:
Jesus is not English it's Latin go and browse it

So? It's now an English word

Tithe is a system that encourages the pastors to exploit their members legally and in the name of God

Pls, don't go to any church. It's evil. They encourages people to disobey Jesus in churches.

God is not calling anybody to any five fold ministry.
He only calls people to obey and follow His son Jesus.
According to the parable of the wicked tenants, did He send anyother person after His son was killed? No. So, He's not calling anybody.

bennyann:
Can you please give me instances to the bolded?

And I hope all is well with you or maybe you've been busy? Cos it took you a while to mention me.

Jesus said He will build his church, Paul also claims that he's a wise master builder.
Jesus said He's the sower according to the parable of the sower, Paul claims he plants also

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Really? Who is Christ? Was there anywhere in the Bible that mentioned Paul was any kind of Christ?

Matt 24:24 said many false Christs will arise. Paul is one of them

blueAgent:
So you select the words from the Bible to believe and discard the others as not Jesus words?

I'm not a disciple of the bible. I'm a disciple of Jesus.

bennyann:
It's quite understandable but the disciples didn't reject the name you know. The unbelievers saw them to be like father like son hence the name Christians.

So you don't agree with the Bible?

Why do people just generalize? The Christ in Christian could be anybody including Paul. What makes you think that the Christ they were referring to is Jesus of Nazarath.
Don't be deceived

bennyann:
Are you saying we shouldn't identify with the name Christians because it wasn't revealed first by believers?

why nt stay with the name Jesus called his followers?
Is like you chose the name an outsider calls you over the name your parent named you

bennyann:
Are you saying we shouldn't identify with the name Christians because it wasn't revealed first by believers?

why nt stay with the name Jesus called his followers?

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Please can you point out what is wrong with the name itself, or is it just because they were called by the unbelievers?

Both.
The name is Christian. Christian means follower of Christ.
The question is which Christ were they referring to?
Was it Jesus or Paul.

bennyann:
Even Paul was against anyone saying they were his disciples.

I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans? For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere human beings? What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe—as the Lord has assigned to each his task. I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow. So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor. For we are co-workers in Godʼs service; you are Godʼs field, Godʼs building. By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:2-11 NIV
http://bible.com/111/1co.3.2-11.NIV

Paul had followers, he had children, he's a spiritual father. Paul severally equated himself to be Christ. He completed the suffering of Jesus. Paul is a crook and a thief

Kalatium:
I was heard that Jesus real name is Yeshua

Jesus is they English translation of Yeshua.

naijadeyhia:
Its indeed a compliment for the world to be able to see Christ in us and declare we are like Christ. This is a great approval as the Bible says we are living Epistles read of men and the ernest expectation of the creature is to see the manifestation of the sons of God.


If you are said to be LIKE CHRIST even by the world the question you should ask yourself is WHO WAS CHRIST? Was He a demon? Is He God? Remember in psalm 8 the Bible says YE ARE GODS AND ALL OF YOU ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH! BUT YOU SHALL FALL DIE LIKE MEN AND FALL LIKE ONE OF THE PRINCES...YE KNOW NOT NEITHER DO YOU UNDERSTAND. 


The unbelievers in antioch who also heard or saw Christ when he was here looked at the disciples and gave them an approval rating and that approval rating is called CHRISTIAN (LIKE CHRIST).


The disciples represented Christ extremely well hence that word Christian.


Any Atheist who is saying nonsense is only being used by the devil to sow doubt.


Remember when Jesus met the man possessed by legion the demons Knew who Christ was. When the seven sons of sceva attempted casting out demons the demon knew who Paul was and who Jesus was. The demons did not know them as one of their own but people of the light. People of God! So even a demon can speak truth when its undeniable same way it can speak lies when manipulative.


In the case of antioch the people spoke the truth as that was evident for all to see through the lives the disciples lived .


Shalom.

Christians tend to see whatever they wanna see. The name Christians does not have a definite meaning, they're still debates on it.
Let even say, the name means followers of Christ. Which Christ were they're referring to? Is it Jesus of Nazarath or Paul of Tarsus (for Christ means an anointed one)
According to Matt 24:24, false Christs will arise.

People have generalized almost every hard thing (especially relating to Jesus) as being impossible.
Impossible and hard should not be used interchangeably because they don't absolutely mean the same thing.
It is impossible means it is impossible but when it is hard, it means it is hard but possible.

It is hard but not impossible to be perfect.
It is hard but not impossible to live without sin.
It is hard but not impossible to follow in the footsteps of Jesus.
It is hard but not impossible to do away with lies even 'white lies'.
It is hard but not impossible to forsake all and follow Jesus.
It is hard but not impossible to hate ones life in this world.
It is hard but not impossible to call no man on earth father.

gentlegenius:
I guess the 11th commandment is 'THOU SHALL NOT BE CAUGHT'.
This very commandment is more important to today's Christians than the the real 10 commandments because even if you disobey the whole 10 and obey the 11th by making sure no one caught you, then you are still a saint in the eyes of others.
That's why our world is terribly evil. The more the number of churches and religions, the more corrupt our world is. Every body pretends to be religious by hiding their sin and being careful not to be caught while committing sin. They just obey the 11th commandment and forget the rest.

That's why Jesus and religion are diametrically opposed

Wilgrea7:
i thought u were an atheist

MODIFIED

i went through your posts... u have nice points tho.. i agree with u on so many terms. God help us all

Seriously? Pls, can you list those terms, I'm interested

bennyann:
Please why exactly did you say so?

Remember Christians were given the name because they behaved like Jesus. That's what is still expected of anyone who calls himself Christian. Christians are to emulate Jesus only. The life of a Christian should reflect Jesus to the world.

Check my post on Who should name a child

blueAgent:
What is the word of Jesus and how do we identify his word?

The words of Jesus are Spirit and they are life The words are recorded in Gospels. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

What lennycool said is accurate but the true is that Christians don't obey Jesus.
Anyway, there is no difference between churchianity and Christianity, there are the same. Besides, there is nothing like churchianity.
My dear follow Jesus and not Christianity

Why do you judge God's word by moral standards, the world's institutions?
You say He does not mean it literally because He's loving.
Pls, do you consider His 'lovingness' when you say He sent His on a suicide mission?
Greater good, abi?
Ok. Contunu!
#matt23:9 #luke14:33 #luke14:26 #john12:25

God is not sending prophets ooo. Anybody that call himself a prophet is a false prophet

blueAgent:
Which one is in a christainly way?

Christians claim to follow Jesus that don't obey His words

You don't have any excuse not to follow Jesus.
Billions of people aren't following Him does not excuse you from following Jesus.
Cultural and social values does not support following Jesus, this does not excuse you from following Jesus.
All sectors or components of this world does not encourage following Jesus, this also does not excuse you from following Jesus.
Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you; I do not give it to you as the world does. Do not let your hearts be distressed or lacking in courage.
John 14:27

Christianity is not unique. It would've been unique if Christians actually follow Jesus as they claim. Christians are disciples of Paul and not Jesus

The Jesus Christians follow is: the Jesus that does not tamper with cultural values. the Jesus that does not mean what He says. the Jesus that His commands can be relaxed because it's hard. the Jesus that understands and changes with dispensation. the Jesus that understands and can not be understood. the Jesus that left the twelve He chose and went after Saul of Tarsus

blueAgent:
Who is confused ? the one who believes he descended from Apes or one who believes he was made in the image of God?
Everything about Athiesm and Evolution defy logic,Science and reasoning.

I'm not an atheist! I believe in Jesus. I follow Jesus but in a Christianly way

ScienceWatch:
THE JEWS REJECTED JESUS CHRIST. NIGERIANS DON’T REJECT THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IN SCOAN NIGERIA.
There are dramatic changes taking place in the religious world right now as demonstrated at the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria.
There is a ferocious battle from religious leaders to force their congregations to be loyal to them, but they are failing. There can be no more tragic expression of human foolishness and perversity than the Jews rejection of The Messiah and the Pentecostal PNF rejection of the Holy Prophet TB Joshua.
The majority is experiencing an awaking from blind loyalty to loyalty to the whole truth of Jesus and His promises.
Church goers are not witnessing the life of the WORD in the Holy Scoan Church, which says 'I came to make all things new." Come to me all you that are burdened and I will make it light."
It is written “The Word became flesh and made His dwelling amongst us.” Meaning Jesus is living amongst us, as demonstrated so powerfully in Scoan Church Nigeria.

This statement to the world is the most significant and memorable ever written.
Its implications are unlimited. This is the key to the understanding of the mystery of Jesus Christ. Scoan Church Nigeria demonstrates with mind-blowing verifiable evidence that Jesus Christ is the Word and the Word has miraculous power.

PFN or CAN, their rejection of SCOAN does not mean anything.
Christians generally scoan members inclusive enjoy disobeying Jesus.

Follow Jesus!
Christianity is evil!