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They were probably inspired by some native people who they trade with  Just like Shango, he was not our original thunder god. He replaced the old thunder god.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=797242.msg9534894#msg9534894 date=1321051175]In addition, what happened to the artists and guilds who made these sculptures?

Were they enslaved, killed or exiled to other places where they did not practice their skills. That would be hard but maybe its possible since most of the scultpure is linked to the royal court and also ceremonial rituals. So if there was war which seriously destablished the known order of things, the artists would be without a base to practice their skills.

Just guessing here.[/quote]Mrs Tpia, artist who made this were not enslaved or killed. They probably change their style for the "Gods" and after life sake.

Why are white people so racist on the internet? This is internet dude, now shut the fvck up.

I dont know why black man want to be assosiated with jew or arabs so much. But anyway, lets do it like this

Christian yoruba are descendent of caan

Muslim Yoruba are from mecca.

And we atheist Yoruba, we belive in fact. The closest thing to earlist yoruba group is Nok, so we'll belive that until more evidence is found regarding Yoruba being from Mecca or are in family with the jews.

Because GEJ is working. They have something to cry about. It is a good news  

Nigeria have not build one yet because we have people like you alive

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=797242.msg9521198#msg9521198 date=1320924840]rgp,

First of all, I think you are ruining cordial discussions with the direction you have taken. Keep your emotions and sentiments at bay and share what you know without denigrating others. If you can do that it will be nice.

It is amazing that on meeting people ask what is my religion. No one ever ask what is my truth. We never speak to one another on truth, we speak on the currency of religion and academic scholarship - gaps and differences!

My friend, you do not know me enough to associate me with what you charge. Those with whom I have been on this journey of Yoruba roots will tell you that:

1. I have never said Yoruba is from Mecca.
2. I have never said Yoruba descended from Arabs.
3. I have never said Yoruba descended from Jews.

So please don't say things about me that you are unfamiliar with.


On the topic of roots generally, who are you to tell me whaat to claim or not claim about Yoruba? You are educated but you have failed to see a pattern in the way Western world write people history. They first remove what is not palatable to them and replace it with one they desire it to be. You cannot write European history (assuming you can) and leave out the source ofr authority of your accounts. So why should we excuse Burton or any of his comaptriots to write our history and not tell us where they authenticated it? We shut out the accounts of our forefathers as unreliable but we accomodate accounts of European racist as authoritative. What kind of education is this?

Samuel Crowther's work on Yoruba roots and ancestry was supressed and destroyed but his other literatures were published and circulated. What was it in that roots chronicle that they did not want you and I to know? Please my friend, stay with your belief and leave me with my belief that Yoruba is from AfroAsia. This is said respectfully.[/quote]Ye let agreed to disagreed.

Ifa on the other tells you how to live peacefully with other no matter what religion. Ifa is a way of life to the Yorubas. Thats why you dont see Yoruba muslim and Christian fighting.

I still belive that Yoruba muslims are more stvpid than their Christian counterpart.

Quran:

"Slay them wherever you find them, (Surah 2:190-)

"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people, They desire nothing but your ruin, You believe in the entire Book, When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

"If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches, " (Surah 3:156-)

"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)

"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=797242.msg9518365#msg9518365 date=1320884411]Do you know why?  Because Islam and Ifa share close similarity in rituals and mysteries.  Christianity does not have anything in common with Ifa so Christians are not readily aware of the link.[/quote]Only thing Islam and Ifa got in common is that both are religion or else Ifa and Islam got nothing in common.

Stop fooling yourself, that Oduduwa was from mecca was a propaganda used by Arab. Christianity also did it part, but that is another thing.

And please Negro_Ntns hold the jew arab thing to yourself.

BootyOnMe:
Abeg, go kill Boko Haram first.
Not mad at all.
Nor be to make mouth for h-internet!

umad? uafraid? https://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100731150958/uncyclopedia/images/1/16/Coolface.png

BootyOnMe:
Supported!
You are an unbeliever! An infidel according to them!
STAY AWAY!!!
Or, I will gladly join the Boko Haramites and KILL of of you myself for being busy-bodies!

Kill me, and ill kill you back. what what? u mad?

BootyOnMe:
When it comes to religion, YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS!
QURAN SAYS CHRISTIANS ARE INFIDELS!THEY ARE!!!
Don't go to 'enemy' territory. Period!

Bible says:Love they Islamic neighbours as thineselves!
They are both legitimate.
No Christian infidels/churches in the North.
Muslims are Christian neighbours. . . love them ASIS!!!!

No convertion necessary!
Soooooo,. . . . .WHAT IZZZZZ DA PROBLEM?
CHRISTIANS OF COURSE!!! TROUBLE MAKERS!!!

Quran:

"Slay them wherever you find them, (Surah 2:190-)

"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people, They desire nothing but your ruin, You believe in the entire Book, When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

"If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches, " (Surah 3:156-)

"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)

"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

yommysomguy:
Alexander the great died as a result of malaria, That wasnt 200 years ago

Alexander was not African. So your point mate?


Before total brainwash, Africans were more Advance in medicine that Europe. One of the few thing they cant disagree on. How herbalism was far more superior to their chemical stuff.

Quran verse :

"Slay them wherever you find them, (Surah 2:190-)

"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people, They desire nothing but your ruin, You believe in the entire Book, When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

"If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches, " (Surah 3:156-)

"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)

"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

kpolli:
Where u dere 200years ago?

Rumor spreader

If you got nothing to contribute, just shut up!

I wonder when UK will announced most inspirational white or asian people.

Anti gay pastor ? something to be proud of? And who is this man? what has he done for Africa to deserve such a title?

Omg. Oba Awole really cursed us

"My curse be on you and your disloyalty and your disobedience, so let your children disobey you. If you send them on an errand, let them never return to bring you word again. To all points I shot my arrows, you will be carried as slaves. My curse will carry to the sea and beyond the seas. Slaves will rule over you, and you their masters will become slaves. Broken calabash can be mended but not a broken dish; so let my words be irrevocable."

May this yeye Oba burn in hell.

anonymous6:
understood

well the Nok connection with the Yoruba's are factual but I guess the Egyptian connection maybe to far back to be confirmed, it is still a never ending debate in the Yoruba community but the Nok ancestral connection to Yoruba is fact but I never ever believe Yoruba are from Arabs( I don't know who believes that). I have heard the original Egyptians were black africans(since their ancestors are the Nubians) but lighter until they started mixing with Arabs, Greeks, and etc though

Many Yoruba muslim belive Oduduwa is from mecca. When the Arab and yoruba start trading, them arabs try to convert us to islam. One of the propaganda they should was that Oduduwa was from Mecca. We can all thank Oba of oyo for not beliving that shi.t and for defending yoruba people from arab invaders.

Oduduwa is not from the north, just the Arab playing with us.

anonymous6:
I am not admitting to nothing because I don't believe it, only the benin believe that story, Yoruba's don't and they have their own story. Whjat I am saying is if you are telling em not to believe the yoruba account that oduduwa fell from the sky, and speak as if it you & all benins think it is nonsence when you believe in that for your own origins then you have no right to criticise yoruba's in what they believe either, and I already told you I don't believe he came from the sky.

"“The Yoruba history begins with the migration of an east African population across the trans-African route leading from Mid-Nile river area to the Mid-Niger. Archaeologists, according to M. Omoleya, inform us that the Nigerian region was inhabited more than forty thousand years ago, or as far back as 65,000BC. During this period, the Nok culture occupied the region. The Nok culture was visited by the “Yoruba people”, between 2000BC and 500BC. This group of people was led, according to Yoruba historical accounts by king Oduduwa, who settled peacefully in the already established Ile-Ife, the sacred city of the indigenous Nok people. "
http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/2139

I brought up the Nok because of the Bronze casting not because of anything else, also the igbo's & Igala have nothing to do with the Nok or share the same language with Yoruba's; that is a bunch of nonsence
If the Yoruba's ancestors came from the Nok, and the Nok also did bronze casting then they must have been doing bronze casting in yorubaland before IFE.

"WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT YORUBA'S(INCLUDING ME) WILL NEVER BELIEVE THE BENIN STORY OF ODUDUWA BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR OWN VERSION. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN BINI'S BELIEVING THEIR VERSION BUT THEY CAN'T FORCE THAT ONTO YORUBA'S, JUST ACCEPT IT."

I belive we Yoruba are descendent of Nok people. And were not from Egypt.

We became too religious. 200 year ago, we would go out to find the cure. Today most african would rather pray to "god" than work.

Too religious

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emmatok:
@PhysicsMHD

The Benin people are [b]heterogeneous [/b]they have historical links with Itsekhiri, Yoruba, IJaw and Igbo people.

So it is possible they learnt bronze making form the Yoruba s.

This thread is about Yoruba, we should keep it that way.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=797242.msg9502889#msg9502889 date=1320709346][size=20pt]^^YOU ARE GETTING TOO IRRITATING.

PLEASE SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/size]

GEEZ!!!!![/quote]Why are you always angry? Take it easy for once.

Fvck off from this thread is you wanna fight. Take that shi.t somewere else.