Na "billions" be everything for Naija now. The days of "millions" are long gone!

jerry0:

THIS ARE THE LIST OF CORRUPT ORGANIZATION IN NIGERIA AS RELEASE BY THE EFCC:

NIGERIA POLICE FORCE  58%

PHCN, WATER BOARD  39%

REVENUE OFFICIAL    39%

CUSTOM      25%

BRIBERY USE TO SPEED UP PROCEDURE  31%

BRIBERY TO HAVE BETTER TREATMENT    18%

Is this list justifiable?

http://corruptorg..com

Rubbish!

Actual levels:

NIGERIA POLICE FORCE  98% corrupt

PHCN  85% (WATER BOARD? Non-existent)

REVENUE OFFICIAL    80% corrupt

CUSTOM      100% corrupt

BRIBERY USE TO SPEED UP PROCEDURE  99%

BRIBERY TO HAVE BETTER TREATMENT    95%

Cohomology:

Thank you, but the Wikipedia article does not reference any source. And I'm going to request for some citation (the standard "citation needed" for that piece).

Done.

luxoire:
white guys are MORE romantic, however having said that, so are white chicks too, most of our african sisters just hear ppl talking about romance and they expect it, some do not even know the meaning of the word, let alone how to appreciate it or even offer it too ,  ROMANCE IS A 2 WAY THING. dont expect it, if u cn't give it, or arent open to it, or cant even recognise it.There are some african/black guys out there, who are definitely off-da-hook when it comes to romance, they'll blow your head away, but thing is dis my African sisters, some can NOT recognise romance when it stares them in the face, maybe its not that the guys that aren't romantic, it might be that we(women) just dont recognise it, abi? since its a 2-way thing

luxoire,

Thanks for this!

Can all those boderline-golddigging, confused, let-me-just-say-it-to-annoy-all-these-yeye-Naija-guys, ako-mi-ti-poju, self-centered, self-hating, prima-donnas, do the world a favor and read (and hopefully digest - but hey, we ain't holding our breadth) what the smart lady, luxoire, posted?

Growing up in Lagos, I recall the days of gbomogbomo (kidnappers of children). As in almost everything in Nigeria, these opportunist criminals were immediately ascribed with all sorts of powers attributed to the, you guessed it, juju they employed.

The stories went like these:

1. They can give candy to a child and if the child takes it he/she will immediately turn to something small, e.g., a piece of stone, a small tortoise, a fruit like pawpaw, etc. Then the kidnapper will just take the child away.

2. The kidnapper can just touch the child and the child will disappear.

3. The kidnapper can knock on the door and if an adult opens the door, there will be nobody, however, if a child opens the door the kidnapper, using his/her juju will magically turn the child to some small object, put the child in his/her pocket and stroll away.

These incredibly nonsensical beliefs were pervasive in 1980s Lagos and struck fear in the hearts of children and parents alike.

The damaging effect of these tales was that they incapacitated the mind of multitudes, as even some members of the Nigerian police subscribed to these magical wonders, and so made it more difficult to solve missing persons cases.

Of course some of the kidnappers were social perverts who wanted to have intimacy with children and murder them subsequently. Some are no different from the serial rapists and killers that have been well publicized in countries like America.

Though some may want to delude themselves to think that serial killers and rapists only exists in places like America, the truth is that we in Nigeria probably have more serial killers/rapists (per capita), but the following realities have obscured the truth:

1. A tangible disinterest, by both the Nigerian police and the Nigerian populace, in solving missing persons cases, especially when linked to juju-powered kidnappers. The sense of hopelessness due to the acceptance of the colossal fraud of juju-based claims render many to a faith of crippling despondence.

2. Lack of modern equipment to fight crime. This lack of modern crime fighting technology may also be tied to the belief by many, even those in government, that no amount of modern equipment can be used to fight juju-powered crimes; a very unfortunate view.

3. A general lack of interest by the press in pursuing and following up with cases of missing persons. Again, this should not come as a surprise because even if a journalist is interested in getting to the bottom of a juju-inspired kidnapping/serial murder/despoil/ritual killing, everybody around him/her will warn him about the omnipotent juju that can kill him instantly should he continue digging deep. Of course such a journalist will get no help from the juju-believing policemen; even the newspaper management will warn him about pursuing "dead end" cases that can bring the wrath of the juju to the newspaper.

This socially enabled fraud of juju continues to set us back in Nigeria. The most unfortunate aspect of this tragic saga is that those who are educated and who should know better and maybe help liberate people from a psychological gimmick with roots in the slave-trade that only stifles the mind and cripples creative thinking on far-reaching social issues, join the barbarian many in continuing the longest running fraud in the history of not only Nigeria but many of the regions affected by the slave trade, including those across the Atlantic in Haiti and Jamaica, all in the name of "preserving our culture".

ALL juju claims are fraudulent.

Beaf:

Tell me where in todays Europe or USA you can find the equivalent of the massacres in Jos? The best examples might be Rodney King or Stephen Lawrence, but they pale compared to our regular Boko Harams, Helen Ukpabio's etc. We are much worse than we think.

I love Nigerian but the attitude of the average Nigerian towards those different from him/her is pathetically horrible! We are in the stone age compared to the US in terms of dealing with complex social issues. Ours is a basket of rancid tribalism, ethnic bigotry and religious idiocy. I truly hate those aspects of Nigeria.

Hopefully, this will end the humanitarian crisis Israel, headed by Zionist/racist Netanyahu, has caused.

I'm yet to see one good trait in our Nigerian police. The NPF remains a force of evil in Nigeria.

AjanleKoko:

It's true.
India was so good in football (like Ladysmith Black Mambazo in isicathamiya and mbube choral competitions in SA) that FIFA had to ban them.
They played Nigeria in the 60s. They beat us 99-1.
It was horrible. Sometimes the keeper would see a lion rushing at him. GOAL!!!

Thunder Balogun scored our only goal. He used his left. His wife told him to.
The ball tore through the Indian keeper's abdomen and the net, like that Power Horse ad .  It must have left a real mess behind. But at least we pulled one back.

At least that is my version

AjanleKoko,

This is exactly the version I heard. Did you grow up in Lagos? Just wondering.

sizzlers:

wht abt INDIANS i heard that they use juju thats why they were ban is that true? If so how do FIFA noticed their  JUJu?

Alas! The all too familiar India-is-the-greatest-in-football story. I heard this growing up in Naija. Wow! Mass deception is alive and well.

Andre Uweh:

Nigeria can win the world cup with Otumokpu (juju). This can be achieved if they can keep some basic instructions the Dibia will give our players. Such as, they must not eat any food prepared by a woman throughout the the duration of the tournament. Second, they must not bath for 14 days prior to their first match. Third, the supporters club must bury a live cow at the middle of any stadium our boys are going to play.
If instructions as above will be kept, then the trophy will definitely be in Nigeria's kitty.

But these Dibias have a way of explaining their way out when things go wrong.

1. What color must the cow be?
2. How about the sex? I assume female because you typed "cow".
3. Can it be pregnant or not?
4. Must it be a virgin cow?
5. Hornless?
6 Size of horn?
7. How deep must it be buried?
8. When must it be burid - noon, midnight, etc?
9. Should it be wrapped in any cloth before being buried?
10. What color of cloth?

The Dibia must be clear about the instruction so that we don't miss the 2014 world cup.

cold:

All these things you just mentioned is as petty as they come.On top of that it's easy to sit behind your pc lyk so many peeps here  & act all tough (thnx to the internet) when in all honesty,you're all hollow on the inside.

I'v never had any rzn to go fetish,i don't bliv in its efficacy,nonetheless,i wont be foolhardy & say to myself 'let me give it a try'.

Richy Black claims he is a firm xtian,& his siggy says somthin abt principalities & powers.What are these powers & wat are they capable of?Talk abt tongue in cheek argument.

Wish i cld stay up & follow up the rejoinders but alas i'v got bills to pay.

So, you don't believe in its efficacy but you're comfortable defending it's efficacy?

I'm getting confused just thinking about this kind of confusion.

SapeleGuy:

What type of question is this? Do you not see that our players are virtually doing bible studies in that prayer circle at half time and the start of the game. Obviously they are born again and they clearly believe in miracles. Unfortunately the oppositions defence  and midfield refused to part like the red sea.

But I thought juju will work whether one (particularly an African) believes in it or not. so, the players have to believe in it for it to work? I'm learning every day.

cold:

A lot of folks here bliv juju is fraud.Fine but i bet you if you were told in some remote part of Ijebu that 'cross this line maq i see weda you go wake up tomoro',nobody wld dare cross for fear of the unknown.My point;i don't take issues bordering on juju seriously but then again neither i nor anyone else here wld want to test the waters with both feet.

Same rzn you wldn't jump into a lion's lair lyk the proverbial Daniel based on your firm belief in God.

ElRazur:

Omo speak for yourself.

I have fished from a rvier that is considered as sacred in my village.

I have kept Okete (Big white giant rats) as pets. Apparently, it can bring bad luck and untimely death etc.

I have put my feet on the stone representing God of Iron - and am still alive.

I have looked into and dance in front of the mirror when it is raining

ETC.

These so called "do not do this or this will happen to you" means poo to me.

Let me add to the list:

I have volunteered my footprints (the sand it was made on) to the old woman in a remote part of Western Nigeria who can kill anyone by having access to the sands the person's footprints were imprinted on.

May be I'm dead and my spirit is typing this.

[img]http://www.eportfolio.lagcc.cuny.edu/ePortfolios/capstone/amy_monte/images/footprints_in_the_sand_op_493x600.jpg[/img]

harakiri:

@RichyBlack

You and these your relentless juju threads. . .lol

I understand what you're getting at but trust me. . .most people would rather believe in unknown myths than use their brains. If a guy dies before the age of 40, that means "hand dey inside".If a guy loves a woman too much, that means "she don cook give am chop".If a guy is very successful in his job or business, that means "him dey use something". If an armed robber gets shot to death, that means "the police jazz pass him own".

It's pathetic but that's the way it is.People must always find something or someone to blame for their problems/incompetence.

@harakiri,

I believe that the widespread belief in a fraudulent practice devised by profiteers of the slave-trade to psychological weaken the populace and would-be captors, has had its run and needs to be exposed for the mere fraud that it is.

A luta continua!

~Sauron~:

Do Jazz to win the World Cup?

U still need the players to do their part and unfortunately, Nigeria have more pregnant cows than football players.

Sauron,

But how can we organize a one-thousand strong juju committee to ensure that we win the 2014 world cup?

We can't be languishing in pity every four years when we have all these powerful juju men. We're seriously under-utilizing Nigeria's human resources.

debosky:

The juju didn't help us win the Nations Cup the last time we hosted, though it worked for the country for the All Africa Games.  

It has 90% efficacy.  

debosky,

That's true. We hosted the Africa Nations Cup in 2000 and came 2nd. But in 1980 we hosted and won!

Can we still get hold of the babalawo we gave the juju contract in 1980?

redsun:

How about magu?

If it works, can we re-engineer it to make us win the world cup? Is there a babalawo skilled enough in the art of re-engineering juju that can do this for us?

naijababe:

Typical escapist response. I leave you to your delusions

The response of an intellectual vacuum!

I leave you to your idiocy!

bgees:

[size=18pt]Because juju no dey work for oversea!![/size]

Okay, so does it mean that if Nigeria hosts the world cup then we will win it?

ActiveMan:

OMODE O MO OGUN O PE NI EFON ( A SMALL CHILD DOES NOT NOT JUJU HE CALLS IT MOSQUITOES).
AND ALSO YOU DONT BELIEVE THEIR IS GOD?


PLEASE BEFORE YOU SLEEP SAY IN YOU HEART I WANT TO KNOW IF THEIR IS GOD OR NOT.  
COME TO THIS TREAD AND TELL US WHAT YOU FEEL
YOU WILL SEE THEIR IS GOD.

PLEASE THEIR IS GOD.

This is not about God. Countless Americans, Europeans and Asians believe in God but would die of laughter if you tell them some the claims made by juju proponents.

You can believe in God and still ask the question:

[size=18pt]Why can't we use this juju thing we claim can do anything win ordinary world cup?[/size]

redsun:

African religion is a practical religion,more real than christianity and isam,it is based on day to day interaction with the spirit and natural world,not waiting for the appointed time for hell and heaven.It a continious belief system that never stops as long as african families,communities and traditions exist.

It harmonizes,it sanitizes,it heals and it unifies communities,what it lacks like every other thing in africa right now is innovation.Religion or tradition is a way of life and life is not static,it's subject to changes

But we're not talking about "African religion", whatever that means (as if the Somalis and the Senegalese have the same traditional religions), we're talking about juju and the fraudulent claims attached to it.

[size=18pt]Why can't we use juju to win the world cup?[/size]

naijababe:

@ OP
So walking on water, turning water to turn wine and feeding five thousand with food sufficient only for five is in tandem with universal laws of physics abi ?
Seems to me like you are confused

Well, you need to read before making very ignorant conclusions.

ElRazur:


I don't understand.

Jesus walking on water is something that defies logic. Muhammed sleeping with a minor and his followers still doing the same defies logic don't you think?

Or maybe I am not understanding your point.

Jesus walking on water is an event recorded in the Holy Bible, a book Christians believe by faith. Christians do not try to explain how he did it, or show you some steps that can be taken to achieve this. This act, walking on water, is one of the many acts classified as "miracles" in Christian teachings. This belief is based on faith.

Mohammed sleeping with a minor may seem absurd today, however, it doesn't seem that it was an act outside those acceptable by the prevailing culture Mohammed was living in. There is historical evidence that such actions were not uncommon among the people of 6th century Arabia. This is not an issue of faith.

Let me give you an example, have you ever heard a Christian claim something like "If you fast for seven days and seven nights, and pray to God through Jesus Christ for N70,000, after the fasting period, you will see N70,000 in brown envelope under your bed."

That is, a formulaic way (of course with claimed guarantee) of achieving something specific.

ElRazur:


Oga, they are all form of beliefs. Refer back to the examples of similarities I gave to Bluetooth. Don't forget that voodoo have all types and sub types attached to it. Focusing on the magical part, may not be a true representation.


By the way, Muhammed sleeping-with a 9 year old defies logic and natural law.

Can you point to me one claim made by a Christian or Muslim outside of faith that defies logic?

Being a Christian/Muslim and also a scientist are reconcilable realities because those religions are based on faith and no logical arguments or actions by humans can interfere with that.

Before the Renaissance, Christian teachings tried to cross that line and claimed the sun revolved round the sun, even against scientific revelations by Nicolaus Copernicus and Galileo Galilei, which showed that the church's position was wrong. Well, today, the church has learned some hard lessons and have accepted the scientific position. See this wiki for an interesting read.

SEFAGO:

jesus does not exist lol. He is a figment of your imagination.

Not true, there is historical evidence of Jesus' existence.

However, the Christian teachings about Jesus are entirely based on faith - belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

manmustwac:

he could have been walking on strategically placed stones  in the sea  

Another possible interpretation.

However, belief by faith puts the discussion outside the realm of logic - the basis of all religions.

ElRazur:

Richy, how do you explain Jesus walking on water?

Easy, I believe Jesus walked on water by faith. See definition of faith if unclear.

FL Gators:

Are you still tryin to prove to us that juju is not real?

We get it. But no matter how you scream, there are still going to be weak minded ppl out there who are going to use juju as their last resort to a problem.

It's also a cultural belief, so trying to explain to ppl that juju is a shenanigan is like trying to explain to some Christians that Jesus Christ does not exist. You're threading on a thin ice lol

You're right.

But the difference between Christians and juju believers/proponents is that Christians believe by faith, however, juju claims to have a method to a result, whether you believe or not.

For example, if a juju proponent goes to Benin to make a juju that can be used to kill somebody, and that works this way:
1. Get a piece of white cloth.
2. put the juju on it.
3. Get the person's photograph (black and white - they seem to prefer it for some reason).
4. Call the person's name seven times.
5. Use a knife stained with blood of a white hen.
6. Stab the picture three times.
7. The person will die within three days.

If I tell the person that this will only work for those who "believe" in it (of course it's all gibberish nonsense), do you know the response I'll get? See this one way America don scatter im head. Look, whether you believe or not, dis juju na real and e go kill anybody way dem use am for. Except say the person juju pass the person way make dis one.

Unlike, Christianity or Islam, juju is not based on faith, but on magical claims that defy both logic and the natural laws.