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talkingtruth:
What kind of proof do you need?

Anything.

talkingtruth:
Bring your proof.

The burden of proof is upon you not me since you are the one making the claim.

AlBaqir:
# The thread is full of unsubstantiated allegations and the presentations are too provocative. Its absolutely difficult for me to reply in a civilized, evidence-based and with good exhortation. And funny enough, the guy is not done yet with his tales.

# All the same thanks a lot for the invitation

Yes sir.

Well, i don't like talking about what i don't know and so i will only invite AlBaqir

This thread should be in the Islam for Muslims section btw.

Cc: Seun

Demmzy15:
I doubt that snake own, maybe o go join you in killing them!

Really? Hehe

Or maybe we should stop eradicating scorpion too since they are part of the ecosystem.

talkingtruth:
Witchcraft is a spiritual practice, and you can't have physical evidence against anyone. I wonder how you want to take anybody to Sharia for judgement.

It is the power of the Almighty God that does expose them. Let me give you a testimony : I had a maid to support my wife in taking care of my children about 28 years ago. As soon as the girl got to my house, things began to change for the worse, though we couldn't trace the problem to anyone. We continued praying. Later, God revealed to my wife that the maid was a witch and she was responsible for the problems we were experiencing. After three days of fasting and prayers, the girl confessed she was a witch. She said she came to our house with a black witchcraft bird and a woman in our neighborhood gave her red bird witcraft, saying the woman had done all her best to harm us but didn't work and then she needed an insider to help her.

I called a pastor friend to join in conducting deliverance for her and, during deliverance, God revealed many things about the havoc she had perpetrated, not known to us and how she did them . And the end of the day, the girl was delivered and today she is a Deeper Life member, married with children.

Truthman2012 and lies like

2kaybiel:
Muslims may not be aware of the fact that their very own scripture admits that even during the time of Muhammad there were people tampering with the text of the Quran:

Are you an Arabic student to have known exactly what the verse meant in that particular chapter?

Greenbullet:
atletico pressing barca

Wrong thread ogbeni

Demmzy15:
My bros there are effects o but I don't know for snakes tho. I was watching a documentary about how a group of hunters in a wildlife in the US began hunting wolves. They reduced the population of the wolves by 90%, but guess what happened?

There was erosion and over grazing, in fact the ground was devastated due to overgrazing by deers and antelopes. So in reality(yet some people don't believe in God), they were created to compliment each other(biology calls it commensalism, symbiosis, parasitism, etc). If the wolves were enough and not killed, they would have hunted the deers and therefore the environment would be balanced but when they were hunted, they gave the deers and antelopes a go ahead to destroy the ecosystem.

Like myself, I was thinking of eradicating flies when I become President but I had a rethink, flies help in decomposition. If someone shit in the bush for instance, flies would gather and decompose it, so within days it(shit) dries up and it mixes with the sand.

So basically snakes have their own purposes too and one way or the other, they benefit you and I. Cc ladyf

I know. I was just curious to know about snakes. I really don't like snakes

ladyF:
Lol...this one is real photoshoot. You guys should stop killing these snakes, you are messing up the good chain, by the time you kill all the snakes in Nigeria and use for peppersoup, you will begin to see the adverse effects of their extinction. LadyF has spoken!

It's [size=15pt]LadyF[/size] again

Please outline the possible effects of their extinction.

Gossiplover:
What is Okorocha using for them that they are surrending?

Otumokpo

Firefire:
Wow! wonderful. I will be in that locality next week, if you wish to meet me, PM me and book an appointment.

See and bye for now.

Lol. Okay sha.

Mtscheew

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SalC:
On the contrary, 2Tim 3:16 is the last biblical verse to be used in support of sola scriptura. If anyone attempts to use that as a proof, it then means that any book can suffice as scripture once unanimously agreed upon.

Otherwise how can you justify a book written in 95AD as scripture being referred to and thereby approved so to say by a book written in 67AD almost 28 years before. Or how does a 67AD write up approve a Canon which took place almost 300 years later.


Paul does not know of Revelation when he wrote his letter to Timothy neither was Paul in any way considering his letter to timothy a scripture.
How then did these books become scripture being referred to by Paul?

Good point

Firefire:
Which school?

Finished from kwara poly and by next month InshaAllah a unilorite

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Even if what he said applied to Christians, which it does not, we do not sit before PAUL'S JUDGMENT Throne- actually, he doesn't get a Throne.

HE SAID that HE was going to JUDGE ANGELS- he CURSED any Angel Preaching YAHSHUA'S ORIGINAL GOSPEL.

You don't need to take whatever he says seriously.

In other words, Paul was preaching fake gospel about Yashua?

KOTO AIYE

Jay542:
Why

She's quite disgusting in that form

Please add graphic pics warning next time

Firefire:
Me too as all time Big cash crop farmer has decided to have a small garden farm beside all my houses. (Lagos, Ogun, Ilorin)

I will be uploading my 'garden / farm' experience soon by His Grace. Watch out!

And please mention me when you start your thread. I'm really loving this.

Firefire:
Me too as all time Big cash crop farmer has decided to have a small garden farm beside all my houses. (Lagos, Ogun, Ilorin)

I will be uploading my 'garden / farm' experience soon by His Grace. Watch out!

I'm still an undergraduate. I can help you manage that of in ilorin

Emusan:
Lol...it's like a Christian accusing Muslims that, how can Muhammad say he received revelation from God but [b]God doesn't reveal things.

Mr man, you are getting it wrong. I never said God doesn't reveal things, but Christians seems to be the only one that receive the true revelations according to their claims. My question is, how can they substantiate this without appealing to blind faith?

I didn't see any question here.

Well, i think I'm done here since its obvious you dont wanna see it. It's okay btw.

You see, simple comprehension is hard. If you're accusing Christians as having blind faith simply because they say you need Holy spirit for interpretation & understanding of the Bible, revelation & knowing true doctrine to God.

This is what Jesus allegedly said about the Christian holy spirit:
John 16:12-14 (NIV)
[b] 12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth . He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come . 14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you.

From the above chapters, we are told that all the information that Jesus was not able to disseminate will be done in full by the holy spirit, guiding them (Christians) into all truth, including giving them revelations of what is to come.

All Christians are believed to be led by the holy spirit, or is it possible for one to be a Christian and not have the holy spirit as guardian?

Now the questions i want to ask here is that, since they all claim to have the holy spirit: why then do they follow different understanding and interpretation of the Bible as well as receiving different alleged revelations and following different doctrines? What makes yours different from Catholics and Jehovah witness?
Is this spirit really guiding anyone or revealing anything?

And now the blind faith therein is that, how can one point to the real holy spirit amidst thousands of confused bunch?

We can then ask, how does their claim different from what Muhammad claimed about Qur'an and Islam?

Trying to ignite another argument when we aren't done with one? Sorry i will pass.

As far as I understand, Bible was written in a human languages and expresses the mind the of God in a human understanding.

Do you know those who wrote it? How did you know that they were really expressing the mind of God? How did you know the mind of god? You have a telepathy?

talk about them receiving revelation, can you truly say they really received revelation? If so, how then can you confidently say other people that claim to receive revelation are lying?

So different people have interpreted

Are you saying anyone can just pick the Bible and interpret it to mean anything? Do you believe anyone can understand the Bible without having the holy spirit?

Bible both believers and unbelievers and both have come to same understanding and conclusion.

Really?

Do all people who have read the Bible have same understanding and conclusion of it?


Was Paul lying when he said 2Cor 3:6 ...for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life?

This part is very funny. If you as a Muslims receives revelation from Christian God the only Creator of the universe and knows the doctrines of worship that leads to Him, will you still be a Muslim

That's not really my point. My point is that, since its only Christians that claim to be receiving revelation from the only creator of the universe, why then do they differ in the revelations and doctrines of worship that leads to him?

Yeah, this is where Christianity wins and Islam lost.
The same Spirit who revealed the mind of God to people of old, He's still in work today.

I asked a question on this up there.

That's why if you're a Christian and you haven't received revelation of God through the Holy Spirit you need to work on your faith.

If Christians truly receive revelations, why then do they differ in interpretation and understanding of the Bible? Is the holy spirit the one confusing them? And what revelation in particular have you been receiving ? What have you done about them?

So you can see that Christians don't have blind faith like Muslims who Allah can't reveal himself to but Christians experience spirituality through the Holy spirit everyday.

Really? continue lying for Jesus

If Muhammad revelations are true it won't contradict the previous revelations.

How can you substantiate the trueness of the previous revelations?

As if you know Muhammad too.
That's why the Holy spirit is there. What Jesus and the apostles said many years ago can be confirmed by any Christian today through the Holy spirit. ]Remember, Muhammad also claimed that Holy spirit brought down the Qur'an. Now, how do you know whether what he claimed was right or wrong?

Wow! So in other words, one doesn't have to read the Bible before one can confirm what Jesus alleged said many years ago as well as what the apostles wrote as revelations? If no, then how else can you confirm then aside what was written down?

diegwu01:
Your decision to be proactive and go into a Productive venture like farming, instead of embarking on Yahoo Yahoo or oil bunkering is the "CHANGE" we are talking about.

That's true actually.

I think it's high time i started farming too since SHANGE has refused to come

sukkot:
lets hope you washed your ass before you pulled your jeans down cuz aint nobody tryna smell yo funky ass

Naso

tiwiex:
Saraki has said it. Dangote has said it. Trust me, they are all involved in this matter. FG will just come out and tell us they have listened to the cry for sale from people through the senate. Bros, these are heading towards a door. This is the way of starting the information flow. It is not Lai that said it o.

Lol.. It's like you don't know Buhari to be a stiff-necked man that doesn't bend easily for cries such as this.

Let's just be hopeful that he doesn't bring his 'orikoko' into this.

The news is not entirely true. Naij is just speculating because of the call for it. Let's wait for official statement from the federal government.

FlirtyKaren:
According to Portharcourt based journalist/sports anchor China Acheru, sperm donors are charging 150k, egg donors 400k in Port Harcourt. How tempting is this offer?

Don't forget the consequences, huge implications of sharing your sperm with fertility banks. lol. Funny reactions from China & his followers continue after the cut.

http://www.lailasblog.com/2016/09/so-sperm-donors-are-charging-150k-egg.html

What are the consequences and implications?

Emusan:
Ohhh So Muhammad own wasn't blind faith when Allah revealed and interpreted Qur'an to him through the alleged claims of the Holy spirit revelation.

Can you now see why i said arguing with you is a waste of time. As usual - as a typical christard- instead of answering the question i asked, you deviated by bringing up another thing. Covering the loopholes in Christianity by claiming Muhammad also did it. Lol.

I already told you, i won't be doing this with you since it will end up to be a futile engagement. If you have no idea to the question i asked, you could have easily shut up and find some other thread and jobless people to make do your silly argument.

Let's just simply forget about this since you are not reAdy to answer my question.

The question you should've asked yourself before making statement out of frustration was, how does God reveal His will to people?

Oh lol.. So you will be the one to tell me the question i should be asking and i have no right to ask you questions on my own? Haha. Shows that you know nothing. Just simply say you don't have the answer to my question, it's very simple

By the way, you Muslims quote Bible as you like; is it Holy Spirit that interpreted those verses to you

Which automatically refer you back to my question. Must one become a Christian before one can understand, interpret the Bible in its correct form as well as receiving revelation from God and knowing the doctrines of worship that leads to the Christian god?

But your question is myopic because you forgot that Muhammad made the same claim.

In other words you are blaming Muhammad for the blind faith Christians hold on to?

God revealed them,

How did you know that? Are you there when God was revealing it? What make you believe Muhammad also didn't receive any revelation?

and one of the thing is God can not lie

But how did you know that those who claimed to have receive revelation from God are not lying? Do you even know these people?

but Muhammad said Allah is the BEST DECIEVER

Like i said, you are trying to deviate from my point. In your attempt to cover your inability to answer my question, you are trying to introduce another argument. Sorry, i will pass.

onyekachee:
very funny
it has been said that before sex the man doesn't reason well while the woman does,after sex the reverse is the case

Lol, what a myth