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~Sauron~:
Then you would lose your bet cos De Gea is actually the youngest and the newest in the league. . . .
That said, he's a better shot stopper than any in the top-six, he has the best distribution as well. The only flaw of De Gea is when the box is crowded and he would get better at dealing with that when he beefs up his svelte physique.

I can't lose my bet cos he's the youngest because his age not relevant to the matter at hand. .  .

Gomes is the best shot-stopper in the top-six but he sits his arse on Tottenham's bench cos shot-stopping is one of the least crucial parts of goal-keeping especially for a top side.

dayokanu:
Coogar in case you are interested

Cover for Robbery/Muller or is the boy good enough to displace any of them before the end of next season?

The kid's got ability but he strikes me as the sorta player that will disappear for long spells in a season.

^^ Mr Man, you're on minimum wage so betting your salary won't impress anyone.

Who said anything about Arsenal goalies But while we're on the subject I can "bet my lunch" De Gea is easily the worst #1 keeper in the top-six!

I coulda sworn I gave him kudos for anticipating the flight of the ball. . . I don't know why more goalies don't take the gamble when they know from that distance the kicker will go for the near-post 90% of the time.

^^ It depends on what the 15-20m is being used for. . . Does he mean 15-20m after paying the yearly debt or before?

Either way I don't understand why he's making comments like that to the media in the first place. Does he not realize Arsenal's "street cred" is already in a precarious position?

The whole situation is depressing!

Nothing special about the save per se, De Gea had already ANTICIPATED were Mata would place it.

Look at the second gif, he's almost in the middle of the goal by the time Mata strikes the ball instead of covering the other side of the wall.

Kudos to him for his anticipation, though if Mata had gone far-post he coulda ended up red-faced.

Frimpong has done his ligaments again. . .

That means another 9 months for Arsenal physios to run their mad-scientist experiments!

Hehehe

Define "popular"?

Most widely known or most played?

Modern Warfare 3 is too new to be either of the two.

I want:

Uncharted 1, 2 & 3

Resistance 1 & 2

Mass Effect 2

Little Big Planet 1 & 2

Ninja Gaiden 1 & 2

Super Street Fighter IV

Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom

Soul Calibur V

PES 2012 & FIFA 12.

Are you up to the task?

Hehehe, just trying to show you the risk you are about to take cos you can't get any guarantee interested parties will hold up their end of the deal. If you are ready to open a shop in Alaba, then carry on!

Abeg make una leave Howard Webb matter. . . On the balance of play, United shoulda won 4-1!!!

Seriously, how Chelsea scored 3 goals must be the eight wonder of the world.

AVB has proved beyond reasonable doubt he should be managing under 11s.

Fernandon't Scorres!!!

mukina2:
who said something about demba not scoring?

Na me

mukina2:
Senegalese football fans will be 'chapandeying' Papis and Demba

What is "chapandeying"? Razz azz west-African girl

Chelsea will win handsomely.

javijabor:
I'm interested in batman and need for speed at 7k each. Can pick it up tomorrow if u r down. 08032036180

Bros, that's below the retail price overseas, not to mention importation/profit. You need Jesus!

SOUL CALIBUR V!!!

lalaboi:
i think am the only one not captainig vanP. . .thats messed up considering i had him in my team

Yea, it wouldn't have been messed up if you didn't have him at all!!

Dortmund the biggest winners. Guerrero was impressive today!

^^ Yea, Le Coq was superb, even provided a Ronaldinho-esque assist! I don't think he's ever had a bad game in an Arsenal shirt, "top, top player"!

debosky:
Sharrap!

He wasn't ready when he was benched. . . . once he showed sufficient readiness he naturally took his place in the team.

I coulda sworn he'd already shown sufficient readiness in the UCL/Milk Cup to be at least making the bench. It's a disgrace Gervinho had to go to AFCON and Arshavin had to be Michael-Jackson-bad for him to get a chance!

Anyways I'm just happy to see the boy take his chance with both hands.

Chamberlain once again making a mockery of Debosky/Wenger's intelligence!

Bloody hell. . . Morison benched. PhAwK Me!!!! He better not come on in added time!

Now i wish i brought in Ba on my WC!

coogar:
even if he starts, he would be too tired to come back and start firing. . .he couldn't even punch through a wet paper-bag in africa.
wouldn't touch him with a pole yet. .

They couldn't resist the knee-jerk could they?

Meanwhile, some people didn't captain RvP

Let's hope Wenger doesn't take him off at half-time so he can complete his hat-trick of goals and assists

RvP is starting. . . But the nuccahs who brought in Ba may be interested to know he probably won't!

Your console should play "all disc types"(CD, DVD, Blu-ray) by default. Games in Nigeria cost about 10-20% (importation/profit) more than the "official" RRP depending on the retailer.

coogar:
i know you have always fancied john terry.
he fancies married women too.

I thunk BD was divorced

Ibime:
Im just worried about Coogar/Sharon. Maybe I might sacrifice 4 points this week.

Hehehe, now you've wasted a transfer getting Kompany back in, do you agree bringing in Savic was an idiotic move?


#backontopbeetchees

Now to claim my rightful place in the classic league

coogar:
yes, they did. . .
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/28/tottenham-hotspur-gareth-bale?intcmp=239

Internazionale of Serie A are READY to make an opening bid of £40m for him and treble his wages to £120,000 a week. Guardian speculated they were "ready", hehehe, is that the best you can do? I'm utterly disappointed!

saha is perpetually injured.

Saha has managed about 1,300 league minutes and has scored only one goal. . . That must literally be the worst record of any striker in the whole of Europe! Even Fernandon't Scorres has done better and no one considers him a "top, top player" anymore!

how is clichy not a top player. ever since ashley cole left arsenal, gael clichy was arsenal's left-back.
in his time there, arsenal competed in europe and never finished below 4th. in that period, clichy won a place in the pfa award and with your own mouth, you declared clichy was a better left back than evra. so how's clichy not a top player.

Past Vs Present. At the time Clichy left Arsenal, he'd been crap for two seasons and was easily the weakest link in the team. If he was a top player then everybody else in the starting 11 must have been zenith players.

tevez was never a united player. he was loaned to united.

United had the option to buy him, no?

ronaldo was a one-off

Cesc was also a one-off!

the stoppage time was added in the first place to balance the moments of inactivity on the pitch.
a streaker runs on the pitch and it took 3 mins to take him out. . . .in those 3 mins, the match was halted and the 3 mins was later added as stoppage time.
are you saying every starter on the pitch played for 93 mins

And how many times does this happen in a season? Every time there's a set-piece and the kicker/thrower is waiting for players to get into position/referee's whistle the match is also "halted", maybe we should deduct those minutes as well cos stoppage time definitely doesn't account for all the "stoppages" in a game!

plus added time my arse. your criteria was 1600 mins. vdv hasn't even copped 1500 mins.

Typo. Obviously i meant 1,500 mins otherwise i wouldn't have included VdV.

why should i add these ones?

You should add them cos they woulda been starting games if they were fit.

the difference is at best very marginal. it does not correlate with the massive difference in points

I'm sure i reiterated a dozen times i wasn't citing injuries as the main reason Spurs are above Arsenal.

man utd don't even have 8 starters that have copped more than 1600 mins this season and they lie 17 points ahead of arsenal.
can you explain why this is so? you are free to use any mathematical theory + added time and the atmospheric pressure in england.

United are obviously better than Arsenal. I'm sure you read the part i said they have the deepest squad in the league.

if ramsey isn't a starter, how did he cop 1800+ mins?
ramsey has copped 23 appearances this season. .  .he has started every league game for arsenal this season bar the wolves game.

He's starting because Wilshere/Diaby are injured. How did Amos cop minutes against Stoke, is he now United's number 1?

Mr Coogar, i don't have any more spare time to be debating who is better than who, but:

inter made £45m bid for bale.

When? Where's your credible source?

they have no top players and they are way above of you in the league. . . . . .what does that say about arsenal's top players?

Pay attention nigga. I said bar Modric, no club has shown any concrete interest in their so-called "top, top players", i hear Saha(who Fernandon't Scorres has ironically outscored this season) is among them!

bale, modric, van der vaart, lennon, walker, etc are top players. they held on to what they have. . . .within the same period, arsenal have lost hleb, adebayor, clichy, nasri, fabregas, kolo toure.

See daylight fraud. . . Okay, you can start by listing all the "top players" to have played for both clubs since Carrick era(when Spurs started competing for UCL spot) and how many bids they have received. I hope you're aware listing the likes of Clichy and Walker(lol @ Spurs "held on to Walker!" as a top players could potentially flood the room with worms!

In the same period, United have lost: Ronaldo, Tevez, Saha("top, top player!" O'Shea & Brown(can't be worse than Clichy! ) etc

walcott - 1705 mins
van persie -1984 mins
arteta - 1737 minutes
koscielny - 1868 mins
metresacker - 1668 mins
szczesny - 2070 mins
alex song - 1667 mins
ramsey - 1833 mins


van der vaart hasn't even copped 1500 mins this season so he fails to meet your criteria.

Van Der Vaart has over 1,500 minutes(including stoppage time). Also, 'Arry frequently subs off Van Der Vaart around the hour-mark when he customarily disappears from games, which twist his stats.

You forgot to add:

Vermaelen - 1,100
Santos + Gibbs - 1,080
Sagna + Jenkinson - 950
Wilshere - 0
Diaby - 22

You can't be listing Ramsey as a starter, nor Per AND Kos.

Next2Bezee:
Before Skyrim,

ME2 > Skyrim!

Has to be Checkers(Draughts)!

dipo+:
You know so much about footie, yet compare Saha with the likes of Chamakh/park!! Whatever you're smoking is really distorting ur thinking.

Only pathetic deluded fans like you won't admit that the Spurs have a better squad than we do. So much gap between us on the table at this stage in the season and reality is still beyond u.

I rest my case. Live a lie

I'm not under any illusions nigga, at this stage i expect Spurs to finish above Arsenal cos they have a healthy lead + form/momentum, that doesn't mean they have a better squad. An average team can have a great season, just as a great team can have a bad season(no I'm not calling Spurs average or Arsenal great). Inter were hovering around the relegation zone not so long ago. I'm sure idi[color=Black]o[/color]ts like Dupe woulda interpreted that as the likes of Cagliari having "a squad that cannot compare with Inter".

Anyways i shouldn't be calling you an idi[color=Black]o[/color]t cos your predicament can't be explained by words in the oxford dictionary. . . I'd need to receive the holy ghost and speak in tongues to do justice to your status!

dipo+:
Admit it bro, you goofed by trying to paint Park as anything near a quality striker.

I never described Park as a "quality" player, i said he was one of the best forwards in Ligue 1, and i don't think there are too many "quality" forwards there. You on the other hand made the most absurd comment of 2012 to date when you called Saha a "top, top player".

Plus RvP did not cost us less than Park cost us. RvP cost 2.75M pounds in 2004 while Park cost us 3M[b]euros[/b] in 2011. Do the math.

Arsenal don't officially disclose transfer figures so it depends on your source. In any case it doesn't affect how stewpid your argument that Park can't be a good player because he cost just 3m euros is. Using your daft logic RvP must be equally useless and Andy Carroll is world-class.

dipo+:
You don't have any reasonable point. The tottenham squad players cannot be any worse than the likes of Djorou, Sqillaci,Ramsey, Arshavin and Fabianski

How someone who knows so little about football arrives at these conclusions is amazing. I'm sure you can't tell me anything tangible about the likes of Livermore if i asked(what's his natural position, what are his qualities/weaknesses what does he even look like?). You just assume the grass is greener on the other side by default. Is it not the same Spurs that have Nelsen, Kranjcar, Giovani, Gomes, Bentley etc on their books?

Ibime:
Only Arsenal defender that can make Tottenham defence is Vermaelen.

I'm sure he's better than a hybrid of all Spurs' defenders

Is Jenkinson a player? Who is mentioning him here?

Gibbs is just a joke despite all the hype. Gimme Rose anytime.

Ode, if you don't know Jenkinson's qualities why don't you educate yourself?

Jenkinson isn't a player but Danny Rose is, and he's a better left back than Gibbs?

Sagna and Walker pata pata na draw

In which universe? Let's even assume it's true, doesn't that make him the second player that "can" make Spurs' back four? I thought you said only Vermaelen could. See how you've managed to paint a vivid picture of your stupidity with your own words?

Less said about Mertesackher the better.

I'm pretty sure he's better than Ryan Nelsen.

Koscielny is improving but no match for Dawson.

Says the man who watches all his football in pubs from acute angles.

Djorou and Kaboul is like comparing Garba Lawal and Amuneke.

As in both equally useless!?

dipo+:
One of the best forwards!!!
Lol,  And he cost us how much?

Normally ths is the part i ask you to name who you think the best forwards in Ligue 1 are but you obviously know nothing about the French league so why bother?

Obviously his value was low because his contract was running out and he has military service next year + Monaco's relegation.

FYI, RvP cost Arsenal less, and Carroll cost 35m. Andy Carroll must be a world beater then.

dipo+:
But ritchboy's delusion is mind-boggling.  If Arsenal paraded 27 different players in this campaign alone and Tottenham have showcased nearly the same 11 in as much time, yet still lead us with 12 points after 23 games, what does that tell us? It says our numbers are crap!! We have a WEAK squad.
Injuries is no excuse for failure cos its part of the game. Injuries is why Tottenham have the likes of Saha as a back up while we keep Park (a 'quality' striker that cost like 2.5M pounds) in case RvP gets injured.

See how you've outed yourself as a 5-star mor[color=Black]o[/color]n in one fell swoop. . . Tottenham have had the luxury of playing almost their strongest XI most weeks, and to you that's evidence they have a better squad than Arsenal?

Your cranial cavity must be occupied by unicorn shyte.

coogar:
this is so farcical. . .

in the defence, spurs have walker, kaboul, corluka, bassong, dawson, gallas, ledley king, assou ekotto
even if we choose walker, kaboul, king and assou ekotto as 1st teamers. . . .it still leaves corluka, bassong, dawson and gallas(can play as left back).
tottenham's 2nd team defence is better than arsenal's. . . . .

I thunk you woulda noticed i left out players on loan. One of Gallas or Dawson would partner King in the first team so you cannot list both of them as back up players.

A back four of Nelsen, Dawson, Kaboul, Rose cannot be better than Jenkinson, Mertersacker/Koscielny, Djourou, Gibbs.

then the midfield. . . .
spurs have huddlestone, rose, krancjar, sandro, livermore, lennon, bale, modric, parker, van der vaart
they often play 5 in the midfield. . . . .i put it to you that spurs would still play huddlestone, giovanni, livermore, sandro, krancjar, etc and still beat up the arsenal's 2nd team.

Yes, Huddlestone, Giovani, Sandro, Livermore and Kranjcar are of better quality than Rosicky, Ramsey, Diaby, Chamberlain and Benayoun. Don't make me laugh.

carrick and berbatov - 2 players out of the multitudes they have been able to hold on to.
bale was wanted by most european teams after the season he killed uncle maicon.
they turned down modric's £40 million bid too. . . . .let's compare to arsenal that have lost adebayor, hleb, toure, nasri, fabregas, clichy within the same period.

Hehehe, which multitudes? So far you've managed to list just Modric and Bale, who no one ever bid for! Apparently clubs are only (concretely) interested in him on goal.com.

Like i said, Spurs have no "top players" to hold on to because they either aren't in demand or aren't "top players" to begin with.

abeggi. . . . let's call a spade a spade. . . .spurs are not 12 points ahead of arsenal because of fluke. . . .they have been better cos they have a better squad.

Story, Spurs' "squad" hasn't been stretched, it's the same group of players that have been carrying them(Friedel, Modric, Parker, Bale, BAE, Walker, Adebayor, VdV, Kaboul). All these players(9 in total out of a starting 11) have copped about 1600-2000 minutes in the league while Arsenal lead the league in players used with a whopping 27!

Let me reiterate again, i am not trying to play down Spurs' achievements, they've been great. But some of the comparisons are baseless.