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didoflex:
And The Spurs Keep Matching On!!!!!!

Where are you "matching" to?

^^ I finished the campaign two days ago and shelved it!

Currently playing Uncharted 3.

All I do is WIN!

^^ The reviews have been meh.

Bad Terrible Moment, Chapter 2 verse 6.

Alex-adona Song!

mok_t:
I got a white used *fat* ps3 20G *2006/7 model* = 22k with an external *used* HD of 500G = 8k containing 10 *copied/pirated* games = 10k in it. Im selling with on dualshock3 original pad. Im letting this go for 67k, Contact 0809732567 for info.

Subtotal = 40k. Is the remaining 27k for delivery?

Cool.

ben_duck:
Zack Splat, our free turn-based puzzle game for the iPhone and iPad, has been doing consistently well in Nigeria since we launched it two weeks ago.

I just wanted to pop on to Nairaland firstly to say thank you very much to Nigeria for downloading and enjoying Zack Splat. I don't know why it seems to have connected well with Nigerians. If someone can explain it to me, I'd love to know!

Where are you based? Are you a developer?

I haven't played your game, I'll download it today. Hope it's ad-free!

tboy1:
You were lucky this Game week, you met me on my off GW . . . Good Game though

"Lucky"? Hehehe, you lost by almost 20 points FFS!!!

You were just "unlucky" you came up against the top scoring team #CockBlockerzFTW

Link is back

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GET IN!!!

Keke-Maruwa for TBOOGIE please!

Bad Moment 2.0.1.1. . . . RC1!

Torres + Carroll = 85m on the bench

Those must be the two worst transfers in the history of British football.

STURRIDGE!

tboy1:
Game is not over yet

Better pray Walker gets a brace and Adebayor gets sent off then!

United stringing 3 consecutive clean-sheets. . .

As a sharp guy, Fergie has reverted to conservative mode after the gung-ho project culminated in a 6-1 thrashing by Citeh.

Villass Boass & Wenger, take note!

Taxi for TBOOGIE please!!

Blood WILL spill!

[size=14pt]Match of The Day:[/size]

Been away for a while, just catching up with the psx scene today, apparently there's now a stable, freeze-free fix for U3, that means no need to revert to OFW, yay!

Chic2Pimp and Sauron back from their honeymoon? This is serious

~Sauron~:
Hello people!
Back from peacekeeping in Iraq.

Sharon Stone!

Trick question: What role did Bergkamp play for Arsenal?

Your homeboy coogar reckons he never played in the hole for Arsenal and there was "no hole throughout England"

If you expect me to keep pointing out your stoopidity for eternity, it won't happen. But please don't put your Coogary words in my mouth.

ronaldo scored 53 goals in the spanish league last season(correct)
torres scored 33 goals in the english league in 2007/8(wrong)

Ronaldo did not score 53 goals in the Spanish League last season, and i never said, or concurred he did.


And don't try to take Coogary words out of yours:

when did i say classic number 10s are used in the hole - what a tool!

in euro 2000, holland played dennis bergkamp(a classic "10" in a role in the hole.

zonal marking said so that classic no 10s were used in the hole. as at that time, bergkamp was a classic 10 for arsenal between 95 and 2004 when he retired.

First dyslexia, now amnesia. . . Gregory House won't be able to cure you.

StarBoard:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8891523/Manchester-United-report-increased-turnover-of-78.3-million-in-first-quarter.html

United makes profit again.
But dandruff-sucking louts like duduspace say United's model is unsustainable.

*turnover

^^ SPOILER ALERT!!!

Words are lost on Coogar. . . I can only point out your own contradictions to show you how brilliant you are.

comparing a playmaker whose role cannot be filled by any other position to wingers(whose roles can be filled by virtually anyone on the pitch) is daft!

in defoe/crouch partnership, crouch becomes the playmaker.

rory delap's long-range throws ALONE make him a playmaker.

players like van persie, rooney, messi, berbatov, robbie keane, anelka, di natale, drogba, etc. players who can either play as a classic centre forward or a classic playmaker or both!

That's at least three different positions(CM - Delap, Striker - Drogba, Support Striker - Rooney) you've listed as playmakers. But according to you: a playmaker's role "cannot be filled by any other position".

By now it's obvious to all and sundry you are a nutcase and not worth my time.


Quick recap of your legendary lines from the last 48hrs:

"Torres scored 33 goals in the English league"

"There must be a '10'(playmaker role) in a football game because it's played by 11 players"

"Crouch is a playmaker"

"Shearer, Yorke and Delap are also playmakers"

"Drogba is a CLASSIC playmaker"

"Classic number 10s are used in the hole, Bergkamp at Arsenal is a prime example, but THERE WAS NO HOLE THROUGHOUT ENGLAND"

"Zidane is a 10. 10 was a support striker until euro 2000(4-4-2) formation."

"Camoranesi played for, and won the Champions League with AC Milan"

"A wingers role can be filled by virtually anyone on the pitch"


If Jesus knew you'd be born in the future, he would have lived a very long, crucifixion-free life!

slimshay:
Debosky and HellBoy will you guys please stop taking the piss. . .sorry. . . .peace. . . .sorry piss.

Hehehe, the problem with Coogar is once you stop entertaining his lunacy, he's actually deluded enough to believe he has "won"

Ergo the wise man's most famous line.

Watch him celebrate his "victory" soon

My goodness, it's still talking!!!

for the sake of others, i meant bergkamp!

Bergkamp retired in 2004?

zidane is a 10. 10 was a support striker until euro 2000(4-4-2) formation.
during the tournament, tactical improvement then placed zidane in the hole - which means classic 10 now played in the hole!!!

You mean after Euro 2000, the God of Soccer spontaneously declared "10 is no longer a support striker"?

Oh wait, you read an article on zonalmarking about 10s circa 2000 and arrived at the unfortunate conclusion.

crouch is too slow to even be a centre forward. he plays as a withdrawn striker for his ability to hold the ball against defenders and spread the play to his wingers and main striker.

Crouch is a withdrawn striker/playmaker who "spreads play to his wingers and main striker". Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first!

go and google les ferdinand and alan shearer. after then, google cole/yorke partnership. see how they work in tandem and got goals.

Because they work in tandem you figure one of them is a playmaker?

yet again, pedantry that had nothing to do with the argument.

Hehehe, i ask you who the wingers were in AC Milan, you drop a massive "Camoranesi" bombshell(initially Gattuso, yea i saw that before you modified it) and you call it pedantry?

So if i say Messi won the CAF Champions League with Enyimba, you will write it off as "pedantry"?

if a team plays 4-3-1-2, they have sacrificed bits of width from their forwards for the creativity in the middle but they would still maintain width by letting the full backs overlap and contribute. this is why you see dani alves, evra, leighton baines, etc bomb forward and produce crosses. so you want to argue those teams don't have wingers when alves, evra, rafael, ashley cole, etc virtually sit in the opposition's half and stretch the play?

The question isn't whether or not AC Milan have width, it's whether or not they have wingers. Full backs are now wingers?

so what is messi if he's not a false 9. who were vidic and rio marking in the champions league? eduardo?
messi is a classic false 9 now ever since guardiola pushed etoo and henry wide in 2009 to allow messi initiate play from deep and score.

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/08/18/mourinho-messi-false-nine/

"False 9" is a NAME given to a role, what we are debating here is the NUMBER(i.e Name = DM. Number = 4). What number is ascribed to a "false 9" in Coogar's metric system? Please don't say 9.

From your "holy book" aka zonalmarking:

Real tried to play high up the pitch, but Messi played so deep that Jose Mourinho didn’t know how to deal with him – the two centre-backs stayed in position, but holding a high line. Therefore, Messi could receive the ball in space, turn, then send a ball through to one of the wide forwards coming inside.

Real played high up the pitch, but Messi was STILL TOO DEEP for the CBs to mark. He even had the luxury of picking up the ball between the lines and playing in the wide-forwards COMING INSIDE(i.e to temporarily fill the CF/"9" slot)

Does this sound like a "true" number 9(Shearer) to you?

fernando torres scored 33 goals in the english league in 2007/8 so stop yapping.

Can you quote anyone from anywhere saying Torres scored 33 goals in the "English league" that season? If you cannot find a single quote from the millions of soccer websites/communities online to back up your next rant then you obviously need to shut up.

you are still debating the technical difference between the league of england and the premier league. shame on you.

Champions League/Carling Cup, olodo!

analysis: here, coogar was asking ritchboy to explain his small man/big man target men theory he argued earlier. coogar asked ritchboy to answer which of henry or bergkamp would be considered small or big. which of shearer would be considered big or small

This is what i said:

In a traditional English 4-4-2 the two forwards are usually a big target man(Crouch) and a smaller pacey runner(Defoe). So who is the 10 in that formation? The ball-boy?

Usually being the key word. Are you dyslexic?

where in coogar's diatribe did coogar say they were classic playmakers?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-673205.2336.html#msg9555171

Read your response to the quote "Yorke/Cole, Shearer/Les are also "classical number 10 playmakers"("yes they were"). Dyslexia's a bytch!

of course, there was no man in the hole - united played 4-4-2. there was no man between the lines(between defence & midfield)
must a supporting striker play in the hole? cole/yorke were both target men and were both supporting strikers for each other depending on the state of play.

Coogar: There must be a 10 in a flat 4-4-2.

Coogar: In a flat 4-4-2, the 10 is a support striker in the hole: i.e Bergkamp.

Coogar: In the Yorke/Cole partnership, there was no man in the hole.

LOLOL

According to Coogar, an out-n-out center forward/"target man" like Andy Cole is a 10 But wait for it, he actually isn't! Or is he? LMAO

analysis: simple question, was dennis bergkamp a 10 for arsenal in his prime? ritchboy answered bergkamp played mainly as a forward in the hole.
it's a known fact arsenal played 4-4-2 when bergkamp was in his prime. there was no hole. throughout england

Coogar earlier today: zonal marking said so that[b] classic no 10s were used in the hole.[/b] as at that time, bergkamp was a classic 10 for arsenal between 95 and 2004 when he retired.

"There was no hole throughout England" - - - "zonal marking said so that classic no 10s were used in the hole as at that time, bergkamp was a classic 10 for arsenal"

Arsenal must be a Japanese club then. Talk about a scatterbrain, this boy takes it to unprecedented heights!

This is the last 25 minutes i'm going to spend analyzing your [404: word not found in dictionary]

zonal marking said so that classic no 10s were used in the hole. as at that time, beckham was a classic 10 for arsenal between 95 and 2004 when he retired.

Beckham played for Arsenal and retired in 2004? This is serious!

a 10 is not a midfielder in the hole, you homoerotic ninny.

So basically, Zidane isn't a 10?

Lemme guess, Zidane doesn't play in the hole. . . He plays in the pit!

an unorthodox playmaker!!!
what do you call those knockdowns to the path of his strike partners.

You must be an unorthodox phool, every single louse in your nether region knows knock-downs are affiliated to target-men not playmakers, but apparently you don't.

see this mumu. he's not a classic playmaker like the zidanes, kakas, rui costas, etc.

De Gea is also a playmaker because he can initiate attacks with his kicking, innit? 

yes they were. they interchange the roles based on the state of play. this is why we now have hybrid of strikers (10 + 9) or messi's false 9!
players like van persie, rooney, messi,  berbatov, robbie keane, anelka, di natale, drogba, etc. players who can either play as a classic centre forward or a classic playmaker or both!

Yorke and Shearer were classic playmakers?

Even Drogba is a CLASSIC PLAYMAKER!?!?!?

ac milan did not have right midfielders? in 2003, they had camoranesi and zambrotta on their flanks, they won the champions league then.

Blunders galore. . . Camoranesi played for AC Milan?

this is the easiest task i have been asked to do all my life.
because the formation is a 4-3-3 formation employing 2 wing forwards, messi becomes 9(false), villa is 11, pedro is 7.
xavi and iniesta rotate the 10/8 roles depending on the state of play.

Hehehe, Messi is a 9(false). Do you know anything at all or you just copy/paste everything from zonalmarking without grasping what they are even talking about?

in which european league did torres score 33 goals in 2007/8?

NONE! He scored 24 goals in the English league(top division), 3 in the League Cup, and 6 in the UCL. If this is beyond your comprehension your name should be written in gold on the brain-transplant list.

the state of play determines who the 10 would be. both are now partners.
just like the midfield. who between keane and scholes is the defensive midfielder? they take turns to fill that role depending on the state of play.
when scholes burst forward, keane must hold and vice versa. similar stuff applies in the attack, when cole holds the ball, yorke must dash forward to receive the pass and score + vice versa. this are intelligent footballers with no static roles. this is football intelligence.

the all conquering united team of 1999 had no big man, man in the hole. andy cole and dwight yorke were both target men - Coogar 4 days ago!

You have just proved beyond reasonable doubt you are by and far the phatest phool on Nairaland!!!

At this juncture i implore Nateevs to hand over the staff to you. Blimey, it should be surgically attached to you cos there's not a single life-form in the universe capable of making less sense!!

coogar:
coming from someone who supports arsenal. was dennis bergkamp not a "10" for arsenal in his prime?

A 10 is a midfielder in the hole(CAM), Bergkamp played mainly as a forward in the hole(SS).

in defoe/crouch partnership, crouch becomes the playmaker.
the balls floated to him are headed in defoe's path for defoe to finish with aplomb. and the traditional english 4-4-2 does not have to play 2 forwards of big target and small target. yorke/cole - who is big and who is small? henry/bergkamp? who is big and who is small? shearer/les ferdinand? who is big and who is small?

Crouch is a playmaker?

Yorke/Cole, Shearer/Les are also "classical number 10 playmakers"

it is - every player has a role to play on the pitch.
otherwise, teams will be fielding 11 pure strikers on the pitch. someone has to be a full back, someone has to be a defender and so on and forth.
you cannot assemble a team without someone assuming the role of a playmaker. ryan giggs played that role for man utd despite him being a traditional left winger.

that's an emergency.
then the team would adjust and go 4-4-1 or 4-3-2 and this is why the advantage is lost to the other team. and in most cases of equally matched teams, the team with more men would win

AC Milan have played without wingers for a long time, your "there must be a playmaker" argument is simply absurd. It's amazing how you manage to say so much but evade the question. Unless you are telling me there are only 11 FIXED roles in football then your argument falls flat on it's face.


                                    GK Valdes 1

RWB Alves 2       CB Pique 5   CB Puyol 6   LWB Adriano 3

                                  DM Busquets 4

                           CM Xavi ?        CM Iniesta ?

                                      SS Messi ?
                RF Pedro ?                           LF Villa ?


Why don't you try ascribing numbers to the rest of the team and see how silly you'd look.

6 of the goals scored in the ucl were scored by a player from an english club from the english league!
jeeeez - english league does not necessarily mean premier league. for example, the spanish league produced the highest goal scorer in the champions league last season. . . .it means messi scored those european goals in la liga?

You've already been found out after making an absolute mockery of your brain, and yet somehow you are still talking.

According to Coogar:

the english league is a composition of all the competitions in england. for example. english league produced a ballon d'or winner in 2007/8 does not mean that winner did not participate in the champions league.

That means there are two "leagues" in the fray - "English" and "Champions". Torres scored 27 goals in the "English League" and 6 in the Champions League, WHILE PLAYING IN THE ENGLISH LEAGUE, while his hair was blond, while you were(and still remain) a mor0n etc etc etc.

Only an idi0t of the highest caliber says Torres scored 33 goals in the English league and vigorously defends it.

you are an olodo! telling me 4-4-2 does not have a number 10.

Beckham Keane Scholes Giggs

               Yorke   Cole

Who is the "number 10"? If we convert your intelligence to heat, the world would freeze over!!!

coogar:
spoken like a true football illiterate that you are.
sergio busquets? overrated? he's easily the best defensive midfielder in the whole of europe since 2009.
always available to receive a pass, always available to thwart threats

Best defensive midfielder in Europe since 2009. . . You've just succeeded in proving he is indeed overrated.

Of course they told you he's the best thing since sliced bread on zonal-marking and being the mindless creature you are, you've accepted it as the gospel truth!

bergkamp? zola? cantona? and all players who have played between the lines are "10" and they all played in a 4-4-2 formation.

They are all forwards. Because they could play between the lines doesn't make them 10s. A player "in the hole" can either be a second striker(Rooney) or an attacking midfielder(Ozil). Of course it's not always black or white(VdV), however, a 10 is a central attacking midfielder. This is pretty basic stuff.

Classical No. 10 playmakers are not often renowned for their tackling or defensive capabilities, hence English commentators often see them as a luxury in a football team, but they retain their places due to their ability to change games. In a 4-4-2 formation a playmaker will usually play alongside a defensive midfield player to ensure that the team is not vulnerable to attack. However with different formations a team may play with multiple playmakers. Most English teams usually use only one playmaker to minimize defensive frailties and also because using more than one may inhibit each playmaker's playing style

There is no "Classical No. 10 playmaker"(Zidane) in a flat 4-4-2, otherwise it's not a flat 4-4-2.

I'm sure you mentioned something about 4-1-2-1-2 and 4-4-1-1 earlier. What you've copied/pasted only talks about a playmaker in a 4-4-2, not the "traditional/flat" 4-4-2 you are talking about. Understand what you're quoting before you quote it.

i hope i have been able to educate you. telling me there's no number 10 in a 4-4-2.

Even after lifting quotes from all over the internet to polish your ignorance you still haven't made any sense.

see stupidity of the highest order. . . . .defoe isn't the 10. robbie keane/berbatov played as the "10" when defoe played alongside them.

Abdul Mumuni, I'm not talking about any season/partnership in particular, i'm talking about Defoe's ability as a footballer.

In a traditional English 4-4-2 the two forwards are usually a big target man(Crouch) and a smaller pacey runner(Defoe). So who is the 10 in that formation? The ball-boy?

there's no "10" in a game of 11 players? so if there's no "10", what do you have? "13"? "21"?

Hehehe, so you think it's about the number of players on the field?

Does this mean if a defender gets sent off and a striker is sacrificed to "keep the shekpe"( (c) Ibime), there is no left-winger(11) on the field because the team is playing with 10 men?

torres scored 33 goals in the english league is very correct. it's quite different from torres scored 33 goals in the premier league.
the english league is a composition of all the competitions in england. for example. english league produced a ballon d'or winner in 2007/8 does not mean that winner did not participate in the champions league.

Ho ho ho, i laff in father christmas. Even if we use ur brilliant definition, 6 of those goals were scored in the UCL which by your own definition is not part of the "English League"(a composition of all the competitions in England).

See how you've taken an RPG and blown ur phucking feet off. . . Boko Haram are hiring!!!

nateevs:
"There is no "10" in a traditional 4-4-2. Unless you want to call Jermaine Defoe a "10"

Ritchboy 2011.

This phat phool still has an opinion? Wonders shall never end!