Scholar8200:
So when does a newcomer cross the line? Answer!

An old timer takes 5 bottles and is still normal,a new comer takes a glass and he is intoxicated, what then? It is forbidden totally the same way by which looking to lust is condemned as adultery.

none of my business. i didnt invent that passage my friend. and that clearly did not condemn drinking of wine but over-drinking of wine. so

Scholar8200:

29
Who has woe? Who has sorrow?
Who has strife? Who has complaining?
Who has wounds without cause?
Whose eyes are red and dim?
30
Those who linger long over wine,
Those who go to taste mixed wine.
31
Do not look at wine when it is red,
When it sparkles in the glass,
When it goes down smoothly.
32
At the last it bites like a serpent
And stings like a viper.
33
Your [drunken] eyes will see strange things
And your mind will utter perverse things [untrue things, twisted things].
34
And you will be [as unsteady] as one who lies down in the middle of the sea,
And [as vulnerable to disaster] as one who lies down on the top of a ship’s mast, saying,
35
“They struck me, but I was not hurt!
They beat me, but I did not feel it!
When will I wake up?
I will seek more wine.
Proverbs 23:29-35

You dont need anyone to tell you this is referring to the intoxicating one

21 envy, [size=18pt]drunkenness,[/size] riotous behavior, and other things like these. I warn you beforehand, just as I did previously, [size=18pt]that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God[/size].
Galatians 5:21

Otherwise they drink and forget the law and its decrees,
And pervert the rights and justice of all the afflicted.
Proverbs 31:5 This was written to a king and it applies to all who have the Word. That is why the call to sobriety rings continuously in the Bible.

Can we take just a little then? NO

Veterans will tell you that a green horn will be intoxicated when he takes what they call moderate!So, how do you define moderate? Impossible!

Good. now how does drunkenness equals drinking? if i can drink and not get drunk then where have i gone wrong according to that passage?


and i can as well say the passage is talking about non-alcoholic wine and not the alcoholic one. using your own type of logic. you are now comfortable assuming this particular verse is talking about the non-alcoholic wine lolz nice one

4everGod:


If Aaron and his sons were forbidden frm wine because of the tabernacle then is it Jesus who was the embodiment of God who would then approve and consume this same wine?

Your comment justifies the positions of Jesus regarding alcoholic wine. No priest is allowed to defile his body while in Gods presence. Jesus was the High priest so how then would he break the same rules guiding the priesthood?

Again I say ignorance is not something you should be proud of. Eschew it.

they were not forbidden to take wine. but forbidden to take wine before entering the tabernacle. two different scenarios. take note

Scholar8200:
WRONG! That's why there are passages that mention strong drink. Wine also referred to the fruit of the Vine obtained from the wine presses.

proverb 23 verse 20. Do not be among those who drink too much wine,+
Among those who gorge themselves on meat, Galasians 5 verse 21. envy, drunkenness,+ wild parties,* and things like these.+ I am forewarning you about these things, the same way I already warned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit God’s Kingdom.... drunkiness but not drinking.

Scholar8200:
WRONG! That's why there are passages that mention strong drink. Wine also referred to the fruit of the Vine obtained from the wine presses.

proverb 23 verse 20. Do not be among those who drink too much wine,+
Among those who gorge themselves on meat, alcoholic or not? yes alcoholic, but it didnt condemn it. it said too much. anywhere strong drink is mentioned wine is also mentioned

Scholar8200:
WRONG! That's why there are passages that mention strong drink. Wine also referred to the fruit of the Vine obtained from the wine presses.

show me a verse where the bible literately condemned drinking of wine

Scholar8200:
WRONG! That's why there are passages that mention strong drink. Wine also referred to the fruit of the Vine obtained from the wine presses.

in Leveticus Aaron and his sons were forbidden to take wine before going near the tabernacle. why? if thats not achoholic then why?

DeSepiero:


Like I said, if there's no alcohol, it's no wine.

Maybe you should ask Jesus or the Bible authors 'what the water really turned into' or 'why they chose to call it wine when according to you, it doesn't contain alcohol'.

same thing am trying to explain to him. these people are using modern connotative meaning of wine as non-alcoholic but forgotten that those days wine had one meaning. Alcoholic.

4everGod:



Smh...kids..

Despite all I have tried showing you...you still want to continue spewing doltishness...why is table wine not called grape juice? Can you tell me?

Especially since it has no alcoholic content why is it still called white wine and not white grape juice?

When Jesus turned WATER TO WINE not grape, water to wine the key alcoholic ingredient was missing and Jesus was the one who instructed them on what to do...HE SIMPLY ASKED THEM TO FILL THE VESSELS WITH WATER...HE NEVER EVER ASKED THEM TO INCLUDE GRAPES.

So again I ask you...why is non alcoholic table wine still called wine and not juice.

what key ingredient? the meaning of "wine" was fermented grape(alcoholic). stop trying to twist it.

4everGod:



Is there anywhere that the Bible documented that the people added grapes into the water? They only filled the cisterns with water and that was all that Jesus needed.

The alcoholic angle would have been right if fermentation or grapes were added.

You are the ignorant one here sorry.

the bible clearly said Jesus miraculously turned water to wine. from recorded history wine had only an original meaning which included alcohol.

did Jesus need grape before he turned the water to whatever he liked? are you saying that without grape brought forward Jesus cant turn water to any wine he likes? is that what you are saying?

the problem with you new Generation is that you are lost in history when it comes to Christianity, you think only the bible can give you knowledge, forgetting the bible was compiled among many other books. my friend aside the bible, there are many other books written by men of God which was not included. and many other historical accounts of past event. thats where the vatican got an edge.

thats enough

4everGod:



The wine which came from the water Jesus turned was not alcoholic.

For wine to be alcoholic the grapes must have been fermented and Jesus did not need grapes for the miracle all he needed was water so where did the alcoholic content come from?

NO GRAPES...NO FERMENTATION....MEANS NO ALCOHOLIC CONTENT.

Read and read and read some more so knowledge would hit you square in the face.

there is original meaning and there is connotative meaning. wine was originally alcoholic, it was not long ago that a connotative meaning was given to wine to accommodate non-alcoholic. the wine in the times of Jesus was fermented grape. Alcoholic. this is the position of the roman catholic church which has more history records than you can comprehend so dont be ignorant

Be careful of what you say or read. history is deceptive. no one knows which is true and which is false. if you cannot do torror research then the best position is to pretend you know not. there is wisdom in ignorance. be guarded

This just reminded me when i went to work on some ihs installations in idah and ankpa anyigba. ofugo, Dekina, mozzumbaga, checheleche, and some other weird villages inside thick bushes. OP that ankpa na useless place oh, i mistakenly went there with less cash meeehn i had to sleep over cos the ATM cue there na die. even the next day before i could withdraw it took me 7hrs. Great experience though

saintCaligula:
I stop reading when you wrote that a voice told you to surrender or go blind...
@op GOD will not force anybody to serve him and will definitely not harm someone that refuse to follow him...

exactly where i also stopped

I only blame the Christians in the south who sit and watch being humiliated. when you ask them to react they tell you God will fight for them while they praise Israel military humiliation of Palestine. why didn't Israel wait for God to fight for them?

none of my business

i wonder why people are surprised. sex is cheap these days

rheether:

It's. They aren't running a day care centre. Bills have to be paid.

judging from your pics you look well to do.
not everyone has such luxury. things are really hard for many people, person wey wear shoe na him know where e pain am.

jimb:
oboy if I nak u my own ex p, u go mad

go on.

mhisbliss:
she concentrated on her studies because she obviously got no distractions, including boy problems, one benefit of not being good looking, she happens to be the best among her colleagues including the boys, she wont end up in the other room in Jesus name

how is she not good looking? because she didnt wear make-up? that girl is pretty, your saying girls with insecurity problem are the cute ones now. rubbish

must men kneel? who brought that idea?

Oladimejyy:
Those of you write RIP as if you his creator,if he does what pleases God he goes to heaven but if he does the otherwise he goes hell.Simple no need of typing RIP you are not the one that will decide his eternity

hmm this is a new dimension. what church preaches this concept?

MackBrooklyn:
So, yesterday, my mum and I were strolling when we walked past a weed joint. My mum started coughing cos of the smell. I had to start coughing too so it won't look like I've joined bad gang

haaaaaahahaha

"real" or "fake" makes no difference. everyone's just trying to survive. IMO

doveda:
Of course we would


Beibg alone is not past o. I think it depends on the couples though. Inasmuch you can do other chores in the house, no wahala but personally , it shouldn't be a total no.

only an inconsiderate man would make it a total no. it maybe a busy man too. anyways, nice talking with ya

doveda:
I disagree. If you can do it when you live alone, you can definitely do it when you live with others however I don't mind splitting the chores but you need to realise that cutting grasses and charging lightbulb aren't everyday chores so they don't compare. Personally, the only argument I can understand is if you do not genuinely like a chore, even at that you need to learn to love it unless the other person is willing to understand.

being alone is past. besides, there are many chores a man can do but cooking and washing plates no no. assisting in cooking I can do that cos I love to taste stuffs while a girl cooks it's fun.
if you ladies have your way you'd put the baby in a man's stomach for 4.5months so he'll have his share of the pregnancy responsibility. hahaha

Joy1706:

But when it's time to eat, you can open your mouth and eat. Exclusive my azz. What's there in changing bulbs?

I don't talk to angry people. go away

doveda:
So if I pay MY children school fees and feed MY family, I become the husband of the home....seriously toks, can we get dvmber than this
My husband is no less of a man or a father or a husband if he does the chunk of house chores. Unless of course, you are insinuating that house chores is for slaves and subhumans.

there are some chores you can ask a man to do as a married man and there are some exclusive to women. A man should have little or no business in the kitchen. a woman on the other has no business cutting grasses or changing light bulbs.
that's how I personally see it. if you think differently please don't try to bite me lol

Explorers:


Not just white, if you are here bro you will definitely follow the system also. That's not a jungle.

I said whites because they created the system. few days ago I and a friend drove through a junction in festac side, you should see what Nigerians did even when the traffic light was working. it was disgraceful. we spent over 20mins.

Explorers:
Traffic as far as the eye can see: Thousands of families have been caught in gridlock across the state and up the East Coast into the Carolinas and Georgia, as they flee their homes ahead of the storm while the National Guard trucks drive towards the evacuation zones to assist.

whao this is so cool. they maintained just two columns, nobody overtook anybody. I love the whites, they obey laws.

This is embarrassing.

Pistolx:
they are named after the first person to discover the huricane

for real?