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GlorifiedTunde:
I still don't get your point as well as the sheeples.

Do you really think those who give to Churches were hypnotized into doing so? ( I know there are some stupid fake prophet cases)

I for instance give my tithes and and pay my offerings. The more God blesses me, the more I increase it.

I pay my tithes and offerings because it is the least I can give to God among other things for the gift of life and security over my family and career. If i truly appreciate God, then I must give to the cause of His kingdom and also His servant through whom God has taught me.

Now imagine the millions of people around the world with this same mentality - those who believe they have been blessed and must also be a blessing back.

If I had a 100 million to give out, I'll think of the Church, My Mom, the Less privilege etc. So If a thousand people like me give 20 million each to the church, you think we will bother about the crap you guys are saying?

I accept the fact that some members have no been that blessed. But trust me, the Church does so much charitable works that should better not be publicized - but that does not mean they can handle all the poor persons. What then is the duty of the government?

Please do more investigations and learn; most of these churches run their administration better than the government of your nation - the government robbing you in taxes, levies, dues, bills and still giving back peanuts with terrible infrastructure.

The RCCG and LFC for instance generated their own uninterrupted power supply and have schools that are fast beating the government counter part.

Learn objectivity by proofs; stop scoring cheap points with sentiments and criticism.

goldcoinhub:
A 35-year-old Nigerian man, Francis Ibegbulem, has been laid to rest, days after committing suicide in Altenstadt Bayern, Germany.

It was reported that Ibegbulem, from Imo State, moved to Germany from Turkey in 2015 and he was granted 3 years asylum by the German government.

According to associates in the European country, Ibegbulm was said to have made an initial attempt to kill himself with a knife. He was then rescued by friends after which he ran into the forest to hang himself.

When friends didn't hear from him for some days, a search party was organised before his corpse was then discovered in a nearby forest.

The circumstances surrounding his death is still unclear, as some of his friends said that he used to complain about unseen beings following him around, and that he used to soliloquize, prompting his company to sack him.

Some of his friends are also of the believe that the man got jilted by a girl he left in Nigeria. He is reported to have invested so much in her but it eventually happened that the girl got married to another man in 2017.

The Nigerian man was said to have been seriously heartbroken over the issue and he spoke to himself most of the times, in what looked like he was already losing his mind.

According to media reports, one of his friends who was interviewed says:

"We made so much effort to rescue Francis when it was obvious he was losing his mind. Everyone was aware of the lady he was dating before he left Nigeria and news spread to use here that she got married last year. Since then Francis has not been the same"

Francis has been buried in Germany as no family member laid claim to his corpse in the country as well as from Nigeria

http://lailasnews.com/nigerian-man-germany-commits-suicide-jilted-girlfriend/

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butterflyl1on:
You are so confused. One minute you are talking against Yahweh and Allah and the next minute you are speaking FOR traditional gods.

Please study yourself for a week if indeed you have e studied and Bible and Quran for 3 yrs as you claimed.

You are not well put together.

MrBottle:
Where are the stats to support this claims? You pointed it out so do well to bring in some data.

segunojo866:
Yahweh is a mythological non existent god

segunojo866:
believing in Allah or Yahweh is more dangerous than believing in nothing. it's obvious these god's are terrorists and we Nigerians have abandon our own traditionals god's to worship Yahweh and Allah which is very stupid

Martinez19:
do you mean your comments in this thread or all your posts? It would be better you show me the answer here, let us all see.

Martinez19:
do you mean your comments in this thread or all your posts? It would be better you show me the answer here, let us all see.

Martinez19:
I have thought of it. My conclusion is that I don't know if there is a God or not. There might be, there might not be. Nothing in the universe (be it the moon, stars, mountains, oceans) tells me that God exists AND his name is yahweh, he wants us to worship him, he sent his son to die for us. When I look up, I see just sky .

How humans came to conclude that God exists and his name is yahweh, he sent his son to died for us, he wants us to obey him, he wanted people to obey the old testament laws then and the new testament laws today etc. is beyond me. Can you give an irrefutable proof of the existence of yahweh?

dalaman:
Not true. I don't see the christians around me weeping after fornicating. I see them living freely and doing what ever they want. You keep acting as if we aren't living in the same Nigeria with the same christian friends, neighbors and family.

GlorifiedTunde:
If only you could reason without any bias or hatred, you will know that everyone who is hardworking, diligent and dedicated will turn out to be a success eventually no matter the field or area of endeavour.

He does not have to steal. You call him a thief because you cannot imagine that a Pastor can be that rich; well he didn't get there in just one day.

If you have not read a man's story, NEVER JUDGE HIM!!!

I suggest you go about your own business and leave this man alone. If you have billions in your account, please don't give to his church - your money is not needed there at all.

Poor, myopic, biased and judgmental human!!!

MrBottle:
I will be watching from the sideline. Confessing that they are brainy is an important factor for you to leave them alone before you get all swooped in by their ' seductive analysis'

MrBottle:
Op, for your sake and the sake of your beliefs leave atheists alone. Their logic and intellectual acumen and ability to argue brilliantly will make you question your belief in God.

MrBottle:
Op, for your sake and the sake of your beliefs leave atheists alone. Their logic and intellectual acumen and ability to argue brilliantly will make you question your believe in God.

OtemAtum:
Okay, so you mean the atheists were the ones committing those crimes under the guises of Christianity and Islam? Well, I know two atheists or simply put, irreligious people in the name Tai Solarin and Wole Soyinka, who were moral and did not do evil to humanity, yet they don't believe in Yahweh or Allah. This is to tell you that atheism has nothing to do with evil-doing. It is just a state of mind of disbelieving one more god, while theism is a state of mind of believing just one out of the 4200+ known gods. I don't see much difference between you two.

OtemAtum:
I am talking about a Nigerian atheist, not in the US. I have known pastors here in Nigeria who were caught as rapists, murderer, but I have never heard of any Nigerian atheist do so. If any, can you name?

OtemAtum:
Since I was born and now I am getting old, I ave never heard of or seen a rapist, a murderer etc who is a murderer but I ave heard of many Christian pastors who are evil. It is ironical I guess.

OtemAtum:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

vaxx:
Then it is illogical, No good student willing to learn will ask for a purpose of a device without learning what the device is meant to do . for example what is computer will answer its purpose, i do not need to ask what is the purpose of a computer when i do not know what it is. it will be very unintelligent to do so.

OtemAtum:
You don't need to disbelieve Yahweh as d almighty God, same way other religious people won't need to disbelieve their own god as the Almighty God, but the truth remains that God Almighty is far greater than any of them and none of them can come as close as 1/infinity in comparison with GOD.

darkchild64:
well everyone can blv whatever s/he wants,for me I have objectively analyzed religion and the idea of "God" and I don't see any reason to be a religious person,if "God" exists and wants me to acknowledge that and be devouted to him,he would reveal himself to me and from there a relationship will be established, other than that,I don't see myself having anything to do with "God" or religion

darkchild64:
The phrase in bold doesn't make sense,how can "God" realize something,doesn't that sound odd to you

If "God" is omniscient he would have known the outcome of things if he allowed it happen in a particular way and if he is omnipotent he would know the way to allow something to happen in other to yield the result he wants,so no matter how you twist the logic "God" if he exists is responsible for the bad things that happen on earth,if not for any other reason for creating Satan knowing fully well that he would mess up everything,there is no way around that either. And again the Bible says that if one knows what is right and refuses to do it then it is sin,if you see someone in pain,it will only be right to help the person,if you don't do the right thing(help the person) then it is sin according to the Bible, now let's see how "God" is guilty of this,"God" has the power to stop bad things from happening but refuses to,therefore according to the Bible "God" sins,except if you say that "God" doesn't have to obey the Bible,and if "God" doesn't have to obey the bible,then that means Jesus who is "God" doesn't have to obey the Bible, and if Jesus doesn't have to obey the Bible, then christians who are followers of Jesus don't have to do what their master doesn't do hence they don't have to obey the Bible.
IF YOU DISAGREE WITH MY POST LOGICALLY DISPROVE IT

ABBkelvin:
My question is as straight forward as it come. I'm not here to come and argue for or against existence of God. Answer my question or agree with me that whatever has no purpose or drive is meaningless. What is God purpose for existing?

darkchild64:
very good question,have Christians ever wondered what "God" does with all his powers,little children are starving to death in so many parts of the world,he supposedly has powers to stop that from happening,women are raped everyday,children are orphaned everyday,natural disasters ravage people and shatter their lives,"God" if he exists should have the power to stop these things especially the natural disasters but what do we see,it is still humans that do everything for themselves,so of what use is "God" and all his powers
If you still don't understand look at it this way,now imagine you have 1 billion dollars,and a poor child needs just 1 million naira to undergo an operation to save his/her life won't you give him/her the money,now for every child who goes through this condition and still dies,"God" could have saved him/her but with all his powers choose not to
Christians would tell you that he has his reasons,one of the major reasons I don't believe in "God" is because of the level of suffering thee world has seen and is still seeing,I can novimagine that someone has the power to stop it but chooses not to,I don't believe there is a reason to justify that

ABBkelvin:
Answer this question and I will believe in God and religion; what is God purpose for existing?
@ ronpet777

OtemAtum:
Atheism comes at a stage when people are getting to realise the folly of their beliefs. People tend to become atheists when they discover that what they have spent their lifetime believing is buried in falsehood and deceit. It is like realising that a bottle which you believe to be containing water is actually containing poison. You pour the poison away and then start afresh.
Atheism is a starting point. It is somehow positive because now you learn things logically and not through brainwashing. It is simply a disbelief in all the 4,200+ known gods(deities) while theism is the belief in 1 out of the 4,200 gods.
For example, you Op, you are different from all the atheists by your belief in Yahweh while you disbelieve the other 4,199 brothers and sisters of Yahweh. So the difference between you and an atheist is Yahweh.

In a nutshell, atheism is common here because people tend to learn and unlearn. They tend to learn that God cannot be a talkative as presented in all religious books, so they are fully convinced that people like Allah, Yahweh, etc you guys worship cannot actually be qualified to be called GOD ALMIGHTY and I agree with them, even though I am not an atheist.

The truth of the matter is that EXISTENCE is not created by anyone and it is the most qualified thing to be called GOD. Existence gave birth to all these beings you humans deify, so EXISTENCE is GOD.

I am a part of existence, so I am a god.
Yahweh is a part of existence, so he is a god.
Olorun is a part of existence, so he is a god.
Osun is a part of existence, so she is a goddess
Atheists are parts of existence, so they are gods
So GOD(Existence) can be defined as the summation of everything, everyone etc. regardless of beliefs, culture, norms, values, etc.

For more, read the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH.
See below for excerpts of other gods you don't believe in, but are actually co-gods with Allah, Yahweh, Odin, Atum, Me and You.