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Rossikki:
Please, can you name one major hospital built in Nigeria by the whites? Or one stadium. Or a power plant. Or one major industry. Thanks.

No response? I thought you people said white rule was the best thing that happened to Nigeria? Show us the hard numbers. What and what did they do? I look around and I don't see anything the whites built here. Apart from one rail line from north to the southern ports to evacuate our resources, what else did they build?

HausaOverlord:
I'd swap that kinda life in a heart beat for this crap fest we live in now, where everyone​ is a potential looter.

You are a liar. You prefer malnutrition and illiteracy to your current condition? LIAR.

HausaOverlord:
Really sad after seeing all this pictures, what a great nation Nigeria use to be, may still be?. I feel like this oil is a curse.

Please, can you name one major hospital built in Nigeria by the whites? Or one stadium. Or a power plant. Or one major industry. Thanks.

TekenaAduari:
Minus Slave trade, British rule is better for Nigeria. Yea I said it!!! I'm in my house come and slap me...

If not for Nigerian rule which brought you Education, you would not be able to type into that cheap phone you're using. Most likely you'd be an illiterate truck pusher, or shoe shiner.

NevetsIbot:
And we who are literate.... How well are we using this light bulb to light our path to greatness?

Would you rather be on a village farm with your hoe and matchet, or tapping palm wine from a tree, compared to what you are doing now, ie typing on your ipad, phone, or computer, well fed, literate, and aware? Independence has given you the chance to excel, something your forbears couldn't even dream about.

ACE1010:
That was when Nigeria was Nigeria. No kidnapping, ritual killing, Badoo, Boko Haram Fulani herbsmen Nigeria was peaceful. I feel like weeping seeing this pics. I doubt if Nigeria can reclaim her lost glory. Not in this generation This generation is full vipers!!!

There was malnutrition, mass illiteracy, zero infrastructure, and zero industries. Name one power plant built by the whites in their 70 year rule. Do you know they imported huge generators to power GRAs where the whites were living, and left the rest of the country in darkness?

NevetsIbot:
please share them. Let me see..... And while you're at it.. Let me know why we're not benefiting from it

The ones you have been posting, who benefited from them? Our grandparents were mostly illiterate peasants who never saw a light bulb till after independence.

piagetskinner:
if not for anything, at least there was orderliness...


now everybody does things as they like...

people were more loving then....now there's hatred everywhere

There was "orderliness" because most people were poor, illiterate, and stuck in the village. There was little economic activity compared with today.

Baroba:
Those nettle ( Volkswagen) were like 3k tear rubber, my old man bought one...Like my mum always say, The white man left too early...

Ask your mum why your grandparents were illiterate peasants if the whites were so great. They ruled for 70 years and exported our resources. So why were we an underdeveloped bush at independence without a single full-fledged university?

NevetsIbot:
Looking at these pictures....... I was close to tears.


What happened to my country?
Where did we go wrong?

What did you see in those pictures? There is nothing in those pictures that you will not find in greater abundance in today's Nigeria. Should I post pictures from today?

Omoluabi16:
This just makes me feel sad. Nigeria was so serene..so beautiful. we had so much promise, and at that pace could have been a 1st world country today. Herbert Macaulay would turn in his grave. The whites left, and within 3 years we bleeped it up.
Explorers you're a blessing to nairaland. I doff my hat.

What a load of absolute rubbish. And what a disgraceful thread. Nigeria is 100 times more developed today than in 1960. The British built not a single major power plant in the country. Not one expressway. Not one university. Not one major hospital. Near zero infrastructure. Illiteracy was 95% at independence, after 70 yrs of white rule. That figure is down to 25% today, thanks to black rule. In fact, it's a fair bet you would be illiterate today if the whites were still in charge. Just like your grandparents were under colonialism.

Nwakaumu:
Abohki,bring the war on we are waiting for you come october 1st to start the killing or you people we be seen as cowards.Buhari boasted more than this and later ran away to london looking like a human skeleton in biology lab. Biafrans have stated they don't want to be part of your useless nigeria. shege,banza waka.Buhari yamutu,daniska.

This was the same big mouth your people were using to boast in 1967 before they massacred 2 million of you, and forced your leader to flee on a plane to Ivory Coast. This time again, you still have no weapons, yet you're challenging the govt to fight again. Bunch of low IQ idiots with death wish.

Integrityfarms:
And you swallowed these words, hook, line and sinker baa

You mean her recorded messages shown by US investigators? Sure I did.

Good heavens. $4 million on furniture? I know people in this woman's family who are struggling for their daily bread. Her selfishness and cruelty are beyond belief. Horrible, disgusting person (spit).

DrogoG:
They're probably second-hand aircrafts and will be badly maintained by the Nigerian Airforce due to corruption!

Dummy, are you even aware of the current fleet size of the Airforce? Do you even know the meaning of fleet? Illiterates just typing rubbish from your empty heads.

access081:
See the toy they are buying and calling it super aircraft,, which modern country still use such....

Oh shut up. Ignoramus, only good to criticize from your ass. If it isn't some fancy US jet you see on CNN, then it must be a "toy aircraft". Mumu.

BuariCopyPaste:
What's the fuse when it's gonna crash in a couple of months

Dummy, how many of the jets we have now have crashed? Walking dunce.

LUXURY YACHT (cost: £50 million) bought by Kola Aluko, from Diezani bribe money.

Daily Mail
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2017/07/14/21/wire-959997-1500065183-0_634x422.jpg
US authorities plan to confiscate the "Galactica Star" a yacht owned by Nigerian oil executive, Kola Aluko, in an effort to recoup funds earned through dirty contracts awarded by Nigeria's former oil minister

Full report:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-4698038/US-moves-seize-140-mn-Nigerian-oil-corruption.html

https://static2.uk.businessinsider.com/image/56001d4f9dd7cc14008bbd5b-1200/unveiled-in-2014-the-galactica-star-won-a-neptune-trophy-at-an-event-described-as-the-oscars-of-the-super-yacht-industry.jpg

https://static4.uk.businessinsider.com/image/5600212b9dd7cc0f008bbc7c-1200/the-interior-was-made-by-bannenberg-and-rowell-design-one-of-the-most-prestigious-names-in-yacht-design-the-inside-is-meant-to-reflect-the-sleek-metallic-look-of-the-hull.jpg

https://static3.uk.businessinsider.com/image/560123589dd7cc23008bc12f-1200/the-yacht-is-kitted-out-with-everything-you-could-need-at-sea-catering-especially-for-warmer-climates-where-the-guests-can-relax-in-the-sun.jpg

Kola Aluko once rented this yacht to Jay Z and Beyonce.

Report:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/jay-z-galactica-star-holiday-yacht-picture-2015-9/#unveiled-in-2014-the-galactica-star-won-a-neptune-trophy-at-an-event-described-as-the-oscars-of-the-super-yacht-industry-1

Wow..This is huge.. It's in the Financial Times.

https://www.ft.com/content/88a4b26a-68d7-11e7-8526-7b38dcaef614

And Bloomberg.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-14/u-s-says-manhattan-condo-yacht-part-of-nigerian-crime-assets

And Reuters.

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-corruption-nigeria-idUSL1N1K51UI

kka2007:
The Black man will steal from his own people and take the money to his colonial masters. The Black man will only go for vacation abroad...in his colonial Masters' countries....little wonder that the Black man is still behind!

This was the black woman bro...

uzolexis:
That is not true. Most of my friends from other African countries so love 9ja. Our music, our movies etc. Nigerians don't appreciate their own that's d problem. I didn't know pple were crazy about Nollywood till I left the shores of Nigeria. They say they like the way we carry ourselves and are always like Nigerians are so proud and they admire it, they want to learn pidgin, it makes me proud to be Nigerian seriously

A Kenyan friend once said this about Nigeria "anything we do (good or bad) we do to the extreme "

My brother, I keep telling people how I went to Jamaica a few years back, and everyone I met there was asking me about these Nollywod stars, Genevieve, Omotola etc, as if I was related to them simply because I was Nigerian.

From what I gathered there, almost every household has some Nollywood DVDs in their collection. The Jamo people I met said they used to think we all lived in huts and shanties in Africa, until they started watching Nollywood movies, and seeing mansions and big cars, and now they know ''Africa'' much better.

Naija is too much. But we don't realise our value. Go to London, New York, or Los Angeles today. Switch on the television in your hotel room and look for a foreign channel. Under Asia, you will find Indian, Chinese, Japanese channels. Under Europe, you will find UK, German, and French channels.

Under Africa, you will find NIGERIAN channels, ONLY.

From AIT, to NTA, to Channels TV, to TVC.

You will not see any channels from Ghana, from South Africa, Kenya, Zimbabwe, and all these other countries that are supposed to be ''better'' than us.

ONLY NIGERIA. Representing the whole African continent.

Look, if Nigeria breaks up, it will be a huge disaster for the entire black world, many of whom have come to look up to this country as a symbol of a greater tomorrow for the black man.

YOU CAN ''BOAST'' OF YOUR EDUCATION AND EXPOSURE.

BE THANKFUL FOR INDEPENDENCE IN 1960.

Your grandparents/great grandparents were stark illiterate peasants, totally neglected by the colonialists. Stuck in the village and illiterate, they didn't even have the option of migrating to the UK, US, China, South Africa, Ghana etc. What would they do there?

Today, the story is different, courtesy of the post-colonial Nigerian govt policy of mass public education. You can hustle a visa and go wherever you want in the world, equipped with the skills that can see you survive and even thrive there.

Today you have choices that your forbears could not even dream about. They walked around barefoot and malnourished, from farm to village hut.

Today, you are on IPAD, IPHONE, maybe a Jeep, and live in a reasonable accommodation.

Compared to your grandparents, in this same Nigeria, you are one lucky mothafucka.

So STOP MOANING. GET OFF YOUR ASSS AND DO SOMETHING USEFUL TO HELP YOUR SOCIETY. AND IF YOU MAKE MONEY IN THE PROCESS, FANTASTIC!

cumbak60:
Go handle yourself old man. History revisionist. Not your fault, an anonymous forum gave your ape like mouth to talk nonsense.

OIL THIEF... Frustration for other peoples' oil is no way to live your life.. Why don't you and your ilk use your famed entrepreneurial ability to transform your region, instead of looking for south-south oil to steal, under the guise of fake ''brotherhood''?

Ole.

God knows the south-south will never fall for your manipulation. They saw how you called Lagos 'no man's land', and they KNOW that if you can be so bold to do that hundreds of miles away from the SE, you will do much worse with the south-south, if you get your chance. They know you call them drunkards behind their backs.

''Special Brothers'' to drunkards by virtue of crude oil.

Ngozi123:
We're not descended from the Ancient Egyptians

Young woman, please do not talk about things of which you know nothing.

Can you describe the race of this Pharaoh below please?

Statue of Pharaoh Tutunkhamun 1341 BC

............................https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/02/ab/a2/02aba255216c73ec1ca386ae6c282959--african-culture-african-history.jpg

and we are not more related to Yoruba people than the aforementioned minorities. You wanted DNA evidence that proves that some Igbo communities intermixed with some of these minorities, here you go:

"Therefore two groups from Igboland to the west of the Cross River region (IG-E and IG-N) were added to the inter-language group analysis to take into account the potentially unusually high levels of inter-ethnic admixture that may have taken place involving Igbo from Calabar."

https://bmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-10-92

This is just one example of the intermixing going on between these two groups.

This makes no sense. I could easily go to Alaba in Lagos and take DNA tests of all the young 'Igbo' boys running around there. Many of them will have Yoruba genes due to large scale admixture between the millions of Igbos in Lagos, and Yorubas. In fact in Lagos there are thousands of Igbos who can't even speak Igbo, but speak Yoruba like the indigenes. Face it, the south west don't have oil, and are your rivals, and that is why you do not consider them ''brothers''. Ditch all that DNA nonsense pls.

The Yoruba migration story is from Bini land so how is it that you're related to us when the Bini people, who's language belongs in an even more distant language group to us, separate us? Pray tell...

If Igbos and Yorubas don't have a common heritage, and a history of very ancient admixture, then how come they have so many words that mean the exact same thing in both languages?

Ngozi123:
So just because a few words in Igbo and Yoruba sound similar, it must mean that we're genetically related? I've seen people do this with Ancient Egyptian - does that now mean that we're Ancient Egyptians?

Err... actually yes it does. We ARE descended from Ancient Egyptians and other groups from the north and the Levant. In remotest antiquity, West Africa was virtually deserted. Most groups here have a tradition of having migrated from elsewhere - from the Hausas to the Yorubas and the Igbos.

As for Igbo/Yoruba, it is more than ''a few words sounding similar''. If one were to sit at it, one would find HUNDREDS of words shared by Igbos and Yorubas which point to a common and recent ancestry. Don't allow your silly ethnic hatred to blind you to what should be a fascinating revelation.

Ngozi123:
He doesn't need to, it's oral tradition that many Igbo communities intermixed with these minorities.

Igbos have intermixed with millions of people across Nigeria. We don't need oral tradition to see that. What makes the south south different, Madam Love Nwantiti?

I even think that there was a DNA database that alluded to the high Efik admixture in many Igbo communities, and vice versa.

You ''think''? Sorry, I prefer facts.

We are most definitely not more genetically related to Yorubas than the aforementioned minorities. Stop trying to link us with Yoruba people.

Until you conduct DNA tests, you are in no position to state that.

Excerpts:

"I was first given the idea that Yoruba and Igbo must be genetically related when a childhood friend, Ogbonna told me that words for some well known body parts are virtually the same in both languages. For instance, Yoruba Imu/ Igbo, imi which means nose. There is also Yoruba eti/Igbo nti which means ear. Also Yoruba enu/Igbo onu which stands for mouth. Other examples abound like Yoruba orun/Igbo onu meaning neck. And so on and so forth.

Much later in life, at the university, I was to learn in Language class that Igbo and Yoruba and many other African languages are members of the same language family. Those are members of group languages which all developed out of a common ancestor or a parent. And in the very distant past, these languages were no more than mere dialects of the original language".

https://www.nairaland.com/574377/how-yoruba-igbo-became-different


More Igbo - Yoruba Language similarities

Goat: Ewu(igb), Ewure(yor)

Cat: nwologbo(igb), Ologbo(yor)

Rock: Okwute(igb), Okwuta(yor)

What: Gini(igb), Kini(yor)

Where: Ebe(igb), ibi(yor)

Pouch\bag: Apka(igb), Akpo(yor)

Box: Apkati(igb), Apkoti(yor)

Medicine: Ogwu(igb), Ogun(yor)

Fever: iba(igb), iba(yor)

Acrobatics: Nkpokiti(igb: i remember nkpokiti dancers), Gbokiti(yor)

Dog Bark: gbor(igb), gbo(yor)

Akara - akara(igb), akara(yor). I think this is modern word, can't say it's igbo or yoruba

Moi moi - mai mai(igb), moi moi(yor). Also a modern word.

Ngozi123:
Thank you for saying this so succinctly.

Rossikki Come and see what I was trying to tell you.

Has he conducted the DNA tests? If he hasn't, then you've no leg to stand on.

By the way, if you conducted those tests and the results showed that Igbos were more genetically related to Yorubas than to delta groups, will you invite Yorubas to form a new country?

Ngozi123:
A part from the fact that many Igbo communities have been intermixing with these minority tribes for centuries before the white man came, right? You'll find Igbo communities with high admixture from these minority tribes, can you really say the same for Yoruba and Bini?

But there are millions of Igbos interacting and intermarrying with Yorubas and even Hausas right now as we speak. There are parts of Kano you will visit and you will wonder if you are in Aba or Umuahia. Same as Lagos. But I've never seen any Igbos in those places talking about forming a new country with those people there.

cumbak60:
Oh God! Nairaland has really made some dumb fellows with zero intelligence to think themselves brilliant. You're probably basking in your euphoria by this trash you littered here with. Not your fault. Nigerian educational system is already flawed, so its not a surprise to see flawed brains roaming around.

Sorry, who are you?

I'm not your mate, little boy. Kindly get your bloviating dunce of a self out of this thread before I handle you.

Nwadiuto247:
And I told you to go ask Patience Jonathan and her husband "Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe" Jonathan who announced the brotherhood of south south and the south east to the world and even used it in all their campaign.

You can also ask ipob members who still claims south south is their brother. You don't need to be hypocritical here.



Before Jonathan's journey into the presidency, there was no noise about South east and south south being brothers. It was madam peace and her husband that blew the trumpet so stop telling yourself that it is your land and oil that made Igbos have interest in you, it was your leaders that blew the trumpet so your question makes no sense where the Igbos are.

Again you and I know that IPOB membership skyrocketed when Jonathan lost power because Igbos were angry over the defeat of Jonathan. Despite the threat by Buhari of 97% and 5% the igbos have remained on their stand against Buhari and continued their support for Jonathan with only a few of us supporting Buhari. Igbos are not backstabbers neither are they confused and hypocritical like some of you. When they want to support you they do it without fear of whatsoever intimidation.

I repeat, take your question to madam Jona and her husband who blew the trumpet of south south and south east brotherhood pls.

Why can't you people answer a simple question?

Another essay.

So because Jonathan said you were his brothers, to get your votes (since he really didn't do much for the SE), you are latching on to that to prove you are brothers? Hahahahahahahaha......

But Osinbajo the other day announced that all Nigerians are brothers and should forget about break-up.

Did you listen to him?

Nah... There's no crude oil in 'Afonja land', so he can go to hell with his ''unity begging''.

Please, don't hold Jonathan responsible for your Love Nwantiti with the south-south. And it wasn't just ''after Jonathan'' that Igbos began calling the south-south their 'beloved brothers'. They've been doing its since the 1960s, when oil became a huge commodity on the international market. Ojukwu declared 'Biafra' and ensured he had guys like Major-General Phillip Effiong, and other powerless delta Yes men in his cabinet, to keep up the appearance of 'inclusiveness', even as total power lay in Igbo hands. Will a new Biafra be any different? I doubt it... The south south will play second fiddle to you, as usual.

Nwadiuto247:
We know the Igbo speaking areas that are our brothers

Ipob people are the ones still lumping south south as our brothers so you can go and sort things out with them. They are not representing igbos.

During GEJ's campaing in Enugu during the 2011 election, Jonathan's wife was the one who addressed the crowd in Enugu in Igbo language telling us to vote for her husband that south south and south east are brothers. Jonathan agreed with the wife. The numerous south south people that came with Jonathan never countered the assertion. Igbos in their open mind accepted Jonathan and his south south people as their brother and stood by him against all odds even uptill now. This could be the basis that ipob sees the entire south south as brothers to igbos. Stop deceiving yourself that its all about your oil.
All thru Jonathan's stay in power you people in south south never countered the assertion that south south and south east are brothers. Suddenly you ve woken up from your sleep and now you are pretending as if there was never a time south south people called igbos their brother. What a shame. . Continue with your hypocrisy but you cant deceive us . Its the IPOB miscreants that gave u people the room to talk trash.

I asked a simple question which you didn't answer, but chose to write an essay.

It's a simple yes or no answer.