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Sapiosexuality:I think you are putting the cart before the horse. You have this idea that a people or a nation must FIRST develop a new consciousness, BEFORE they can hope to become a great nation. I disagree. It is not possible for that to happen. In fact it's the other way round. The nation must FIRST develop economically to a substantial level of industrialisation and self-sufficiency, BEFORE you can start to change the masses' orientation. The real "dreamer" is the one who thinks Nigerians can "change their ways" in the current conditions. "Their ways" are a direct and logical response to the climate they find themselves under. Asking them to 'change' while the climate remains intact, is asking them to go against their own internal logic and rationality. It won't happen. Economic growth FIRST. Then people can afford to read, research, study and explore the finer aspects of life such as morality, ethics, faith etc. That was the way the western world developed. They were barbarians. But they conquered agriculture, such that only a small proportion of the population needed to engage in farming, to sustain whole communities, and ultimately, nations, allowing the rest of the population to develop other professions, from the sciences to the arts, and philosophy. They were lucky though, because European soil is the most cultivable and fertile on earth. African soil is the worst on earth for cultivation. Which is why we've always had food issues, and needed whole communities to engage in farming. So a society needs to first create the agricultural/economic surplus, freeing up the population to pursue aspects of life that have little to do with physical survival, like food, shelter worries. Once freed from those basic wants, the human mind then opens up to other realms of reality, thought, and existence. Creativity becomes the norm. Philosophies sprout. Minds open up to new ways of seeing things. But it all starts with ramping up the Economy. As Bill Clinton famously said, "It's the Economy, stupid." |
Ezedon:Good government? The Indian majority will strongly disagree. |
Sapiosexuality:Those ''lofty'' thoughts are already happening before our eyes, with or without 'mental foundation'. You're just too consumed by negativity to see it. One example. Are you aware of the number of car manufacturers that have set up/or are setting up factories in Nigeria right now as we speak? Honda, Kia, General Motors, Toyota. Plus some new indigenous manufacturers a la Innoson. Read this: ''The Nigerian Government through the National Automotive Design and Development Council has awarded licences for the establishment of 12 new vehicle assembly plants in the country. This is contained in a document made available by the spokesman of NADDC, Bello Rasheed, in Abuja on Monday. The document stated that the benefitting companies are automobile manufacturing giants such as Toyota, Honda, General Appliances West Africa, Perfection Motors Company, and Richbon Nigeria. The others are R.T. Briscoe Nigeria, Nigeria-China Manufacturing Company, Nigeria Sino Trucks, Coacharis Motors, DAG Motorcycle Industry Nigeria, Globe Motors Nigeria, Century Auto-Assembly Nigeria, and Concept Auto Centre. The plants are expected to produce a wide range of automobile products such as sport utility vehicles, passenger cars, pickup vans, buses, tricycles and motorcycles, among others. The document also indicates that the companies, with their corporate offices in Enugu and Lagos, have started making arrangements to begin operations.'' http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/187744-nigeria-grants-12-new-auto-assembly-plant-licences.html Essentially, Nigeria is well on the way to challenging South Africa as the major car manufacturer in Africa, producing in due course millions of vehicles per year, for the local and international market. That is industrialisation right there. Thousands of jobs in high end end manufacturing. Many ancillary industries will be established to serve those manufacturing plants, with components, equipment, services etc... No need for any philosophical or ethical revolution in the country. It's happening now, live. They are building those car plants now, across Nigeria. It's not a ''dream''. It is happening now. These are the sort of things that a group like PriceWaterHouse Coopers looks at, and are able to project where Nigeria will be in 20, 30 years time, based on what is happening today. It's not dreaming. It's based on reality backed by billions of dollars in contracts that have been, and are being signed, as we speak. Another example. The national railway network. I've seen the masterplan. It's a wonderful, ambitious project, costing over $25 billion. It's a network that will connect all nooks and crannies of this country, by high speed rail. They've started the projects. It is Public/Private Partnership arrangements, meaning it WILL get done, and it WILL come with adequate maintenance, staffing and upgrades locked into the contracts. We've seen it happening LIVE. The Abuja-Kaduna rail network is a world class development. it is only a small part in the overall masterplan. But we can see it is working well, and is a great concept whose replication around the country will transform the nation. By the year 2050, the entire national rail system would be on line....an ultra-modern high speed rail system befitting the Giant of Africa. You will be able to travel from anywhere to anywhere in Nigeria on high speed rail. So it's happening before our eyes. Did Boko Haram stop them from building the Abuja-Kaduna high speed rail network? Did corruption make them embezzle everything and ditch the project? No? So it can be done, and it is being done. |
Tomorrow somebody will say Nigeria is not developing. Some of us are old enough to remember when the only flyovers n Nigeria were in Lagos. Today, they're like sand. Including Abakiliki. Village. |
noxy1962:Had SUIT even been INVENTED during the time of Jesus?? What the hell has wearing a suit got to do with being a pastor or priest? You people and your inferiority complex. Please don't come online and be disgracing us like this. You know people from all over the world visit this site. |
freshest4live:The day Nigerian leaders stop wearing traditional wear, will be a very sad day for Africa and for the black man. May that day never arrive. A Nigerian leader in traditional wear is a loud statement to the whole world, that the black man still knows who he is, and where he comes from, despite the machinations of our enemies over the last 500 years. |
Money talks... Bullshiit walks....like Ipob protesters. This Kanu fellow seems set to get very rich from this movement of his. |
Bahddo:But Nigeria has experienced an average 6% annual GDP growth in the last ten years, overcome military rule, including the previously intractable phenomenon of rigged elections, and expanded the middle class, despite the ''superstitious minds, religious and ethnic bigotry'' etc etc. In fact it is likely that as economic growth continues apace, a lot of those social problems will start to decline. Nothing like a growing economy to keep people happy. In India today, there are entire states where you will be killed by superstitious mobs just for eating beef. Yet today, India is rapidly overcoming poverty, and becoming a major economic and industrial superpower. China today is actually a brutal dictatorship where the rights of the individual are very limited, and there is no free press or free speech.. Yet they are the world's second biggest superpower. Look at Brazil. Corruption is the order of the day there, plus gross inequality, yet, they are still moving forward. SO PLEASE SPARE ME ALL THESE EXCUSES. NIGERIA WILL MAKE IT, EVEN WITH HER PROBLEMS. Just contribute your own quota and pray for the nation, that's all. ![]() |
nku5:See what I'm talking about? This despondency is outrageous. How is it a ''failed educational system''? This same ''failed system'' produces more doctors, engineers, architects, lawyers, computer scientists, and industrialists than any other country in Africa, exporting their talents to all corners of the Earth. This same ''failed system'' produced Nigerians who work in NASA, who hold leading positions in major international institutions and firms. This same ''failed system'' has produced Nobel prize winers, Booker Prize winners, fabled mathematicians and scientists, from Chike Obi, to Professor Ilesanmi to Olikoye Ransome-Kuti. You talk of 'failed educational system' as if we came from this really lofty heights from which we've fallen.. In 1960 we had zero universities in Nigeria, after 70 years of white rule. Today, we have nearly 200 universities, courtesy of African rule. That's progress, whichever way you look at it. That's not retrogression. That is PROGRESS. ...Sure the universities have problems here and there.... BUT... They are still there. Still functioning. Still churning out educated, qualified people. If YOU want to help, why not start a pressure group for greater funding of unis? Or greater transparency in their financing etc? There are ways YOU can help. We are a developing nation, so our universities will not be level with Harvard or Oxford for now, but if we keep improving on them, one day they will be. |
Sapiosexuality:What is not possible, the GDP projections of $7.3 trillion, or the population, or what? I never said every Nigerian will live in a palace in 2050. Why should it take "centuries" in our case? The GDP projections for 2050 by PwC, are based on current economic growth rates. So it makes no sense arguing that they are wrong. |
Sapiosexuality:The number One "western influence" is saying "No...it can't be done". It was the white man who implanted such feelings of inadequacy in you, which you are here propagating. Get rid of that particular bit of western influence, and the others will similarly disappear. |
aribisala0:Stop lumping everyone together. Each country you listed has its own story. Pakistan is not China, and India is not Indonesia. China hosted the wretched of the earth, yet look at them today. |
vantage001:Rome, Egypt, Babylon, Greece, and other powers, similarly destroyed all in their path until time for their own destruction came. |
aribisala0:I can't think of any nation in the last 200 years that was the world's 3rd most populous state, and yet wasn't highly influential in the comity of nations. Nigeria in 2050 will likely hold a billion people, roughly the current population of India. That is MARKET. That WILL attract major international capital and commerce. |
aribisala0:If you are the world's 3rd most populous nation, you will attract INCREDIBLE amounts of investment, which is certain to boost your economy. |
Sapiosexuality:Problems are not solved overnight. Look, in the UK, in the days of Charles Dickens, ie the Victorian era, about a century ago, people slept 10 to a room in London, Manchester, Liverpool etc. Disease was rife, child labour the norm. Poverty was widespread, as the aristocracy lived large in huge palaces. But, over a 100 year period, political agitation in the British Parliament led to societal changes, introduction of welfare benefits, and other policies aimed at alleviating the suffering of the poor and elderly... it took DECADES and DECADES of activism by various interest groups to get those laws passed, to what they have today. So development is not about saying, "look, we have problems. Therefore we can never succeed." That is the wrong way to approach the issue. If you have an agenda, your job is to PUSH that agenda politically. |
EvilUnityBeggars:No societies are perfect. Europe fought two "world" wars in the last century, that killed 100 million plus people. That's like 50 Biafra wars, in terms of casualties. 6 million Jews were gassed in concentration camps in Germany, by a brutal dictator. Stalin killed over 10 million Russians. All this barely 50 years ago! If they could recover from that, then why should Fulani herders or arguments about restructuring stop Nigeria? They can't. |
vantage001:Yawwnnnn. The world has heard those boastful words before. Pride comes before a fall. Read the book of Revelations. Babylon the Great... I believe it's referring to the US. |
Sapiosexuality:China didn't go through any great intellectual awakening between 1970 and 2017. In the 1970s, China was just your typical developing country. Most people rode around in bicycles. They just enacted some protectionist economic policies, clamped down on corruption, and focused on manufacturing. Result? The China we see today. You people overthink this development thing. It's really not that complicated. |
EvilUnityBeggars:But at the rate India is growing economically, it's only a matter of time before she surpasses Germany. You people need to look long term. European nations' economies are growing by 1 to 2% annually. Africa and Asia, 6 to 10%. Any development economist will tell you those figures are highly significant going forward. |
vantage001:Actually, my money is on the US to crash. Military might is an illusion. Many powers existed before the USA.They all came crashing down despite their military superiority. Indeed, BECAUSE OF their military superiority. One lesson of history is that military dominance ALWAYS leads the dominant nation to over stretch...over reach...over extend... TILL THEY BREAK and come crashing down. The US today, typifies such calamitous decline in the making...Watch and see. |
vantage001:Strictly your opinion. You also have this naive view that current superpowers will ALWAYS be there to impose their will and curtail emerging nations. There's no guarantee the US for instance, will even exist in the year 2050, given their reckless military adventurism and societal friction. At the rate they are going, it will be a shock if they don't get wiped out in nuclear conflict with Russia and China. Or implode into some dystopian dictatorship following a crashed dollar, and a rise in Trumpian anarchy and chaos. |
EvilUnityBeggars:Greatness is a subjective term. What do you mean by "great"? |
EvilUnityBeggars:Are PriceWaterhouseCoopers dreamers also? Do you have any clue of their level of expertise in economic analysis and projection? This is how you will sit there doing nothing. Indians will read those reports which you call 'dreams', and start strategising on how to capitalise on the Nigerian economy. Chinese, Lebanese, same thing. You? Oh it's all a dream. Hopefully other Nigerians are smarter than you. Or else, we'll wake up in 2050 and that huge Nigerian economy would be owned by foreigners. |
gocac:Recession is not permanent. This thread is about the future. If you cannot see beyond your nose, or beyond your immediate circumstances, you probably should leave the discussion. |
vantage001:Who the hell are you to impose a "ceiling" on Nigerian possibilities? There are no "ceilings" for a country that's set to be the 3rd most populous nation on Earth after China and India. No ceilings whatsoever. |
Zi:We? Are you not part of the "we"? What stops YOU from manufacturing tissues in your backyard? It is not govt's job to manufacture tissue. It's your job. You are in the private sector. By the way, next time use ur head. Don't assume that because a company comes in to manufacture tissues, It means that no company is already manufacturing them here. I have also said it before, we need recolonization! The lessons we learned from them have either faded or maybe we didn't learn anything at all.At independence, literacy rate was 10% compared to 75% today. At independence we had not one university. Compared to almost 200 today. At independence we had not one major industry, and no manufacturing sector. Today we manufacture chemicals, vehicles and computers. Not even a single stadium was built by the colonialists. Not one expressway. Not one power station. So what exactly did ur colonial masters teach you? And why would you want them back when they did NOTHING in their 70 years in power in ur country? Why was your country an undeveloped bush at independence in 1960 despite the fact your white masters ruled it for 70 years straight? And exported your resources - cocoa, palm oil, groundnuts, tin, timber, zinc, iron ore, rubber, coal...for 70 years. What did they do with all the money? Name me one major hospital they built. Mr colonialist lover. Don't go and ask them for your money. Ask instead for more ra.ping. ...smh. |
Nigeria by 2050 will be the the world's 3rd most populous nation on earth, after China and India. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/jun/13/nigeria-larger-population-us-2050 Egypt of the Pharoahs 900 BC was the tail end of the mighty Egyptian empire, which had lasted for thousands of years, and had been Africa's Number 1 nation, exporting knowledge and technology across the earth. The great empire of Mali, between the 10th and 16th centuries AD, tried hard to replicate the Egyptian miracle in the heart of West Africa, but eventually fell short due to lack of resources. NOW COMES NIGERIA. ''We project new emerging economies like Mexico and Indonesia to be larger than the UK and France by 2030 (in PPP terms) while Turkey could become larger than Italy. Nigeria and Vietnam could be the fast growing large economies over the period to 2050.'' PriceWaterHouseCoopers https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/issues/the-economy/assets/world-in-2050-february-2015.pdf ''Indonesia, Mexico and Nigeria could push UK and France out of top 10 Economies'' http://www.pwc.com/jp/en/japan-press-room/press-release/2015/world-in-2050-150227.html Nigeria, the emerging African Colossus, set to have a larger population than the USA in a couple of decades. With a projected GDP by 2050 of $7.3 TRILLION, the nation is a growing magnet for high end indigenous and foreign investment, and is projected to be among the world's top 10 economies by 2050. NIGERIA appears set to lead a powerful African resurgence onto the world scene, and make Africa Great Again. |
Thermodynamics:At first, the new country will have equal representation in govt.. but as the years go by, the Igbos will start to use their population dominance to CHANCE the other groups.. Before you know it, they'll start to call the south south ''no man's land'', and become the new oppressors. |
uglyafonja:But where were all these points when Jonathan was in power for over 6 or 7 years?? I never heard this long list of complaints against Nigeria by you and your folks when President Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan, was in power. All of sudden, a Hausa-Fulani man becomes president, and you suddenly discover this long list of problems with Nigeria. |
durangokid:You did the exploration yourself to discover these vast quantities of oil and gas in Anambra and Imo? If not, please show us the research studies, showing how many billions of barrels reside in Anambra. Kindly awaiting. I suspect there are SOME deposits there, but there are infinitely tiny compared to major oil and gas producing regions like the Niger Delta, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Angola etc. |
biafraone:Same reason as now. Because of the OIL. By the late 60s, it was very clear the direction world oil demand was going, and Ojukwu saw it as a chance to corner the oil resources of the region. Hence the agitation for Biafra. 2. Who and who were the front liners of the movement at that time?Ojukwu and his gang. Who else? |
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