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Kobojunkie:
Again...

1. Did God give men the power to infer anything on His behalf?

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You say your bible contains God's plan of Salvation, but it also contains the doctrines and traditions of men, which Jesus Christ warned are an abomination to God, lies. Your bible also contains words of Satan, the Father of lies. What this means is that not all that is contained in your Bible amounts to the Truth of the God kind, right?

Now, it is written in scripture that Jesus Christ is the one who is God's Word, and Truth, meaning there is no lie to be found in Jesus Christ. If there is no lie to be found in Jesus Christ, then it follows that Jesus Christ cannot be your Bible, meaning the Word of God, Jesus Christ, is not your Bible, and your Bible is not Jesus Christ, God's Word and Truth.. This is simple Logic!

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3. I don't believe in Paul, nor in Peter since both were men and are to this day in their graves waiting along with everyone else who claimed to believe in Jesus Christ for Jesus Christ to return and judge their every work. Unlike you, I actually obey God who said not to put one's trust in flesh and blood - Jeremiah 17 vs 5. So, for me, what Paul wrote and what Peter claimed, all should be validated against that decreed by God Himself. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you take it up with God who instead said that by the accounts of 2 or 3 witnesses shall truth(spoken of men) be established.

That's your cup of tea.

Kobojunkie:
It is gibberish because your mind can't seem to wrap itself around that which which in facts written right there in scripture since it differs greatly from the regular lies which you are used to being pumped full of by your pastors and mogs.

Everyone already knows you're a liar. I don't want more lies from an heretic.

Kobojunkie:
1. Did God give men the power to infer anything in His behalf?

2.

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You say your bible contains God's plan of Salvation, but it also contains the doctrines and traditions of men, which Jesus Christ warned are an abomination to God, lies. Your bible also contains words of Satan, the Father of lies. What this means is that not all that is contained in your Bible amounts to the Truth of the God kind, right?

Now, it is written in scripture that Jesus Christ is the one who is God's Word, and Truth, meaning there is no lie to be found in Jesus Christ. If there is no lie to be found in Jesus Christ, then it follows that Jesus Christ cannot be your Bible, meaning the Word of God, Jesus Christ, is not your Bible, and your Bible is not Jesus Christ, God's Word and Truth.. This is simple Logic!

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3. I don't believe in Paul, nor in Peter since both were men and are to this day in their graves waiting along with everyone else who claimed to believe in Jesus Christ for Jesus Christ to return and judge their every work. Unlike you, I actually obey God who said not to put one's trust in flesh and blood - Jeremiah 17 vs 5. So, for me, what Paul wrote and what Peter claimed, all should be validated against that decreed by God Himself. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you take it up with God who instead said that by the accounts of 2 or 3 witnesses shall truth(spoken of men) be established.

Go and sit down please. I'm not ready to continue hearing your gibberish.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're ready to learn i will TEACH you but if you're not then stop quoting me because you see the way i correlates what happened to an organization and it doesn't suit you doesn't mean i don't have freedom of speech.

Jesus himself said Satan will sow weeds among his fine seeds {Matthew 13:25} angels will not be allowed to separate them {Matthew 13:28-29} so both will continue to grow together and any botanist know that if such happens weeds will overpower the fine seeds. That's exactly what later happened as the antichrists in the first century {1John 2:18} later dominated the church of Christ and change everything that Christ established. In fact when Jesus looked into the future of Christianity he said that when he returns Christianity will no longer be as he commissioned it {Luke 18:8} but then a group of people will be making research to discover where the churches went of course.
So that's exactly what happened when Jesus returned in the year 1914 he found different sects claiming denominations of Christianity with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines instead of the oneness in thought that he prayed for {John 17:20-23} that's why he began visiting the sects one after another until he found the International Bible Students Association (IBSA) globally known today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, and as his custom Jesus began correcting them because that was the only group ready to make amendments.

That's why you will hear critics saying JWs have been updating their teachings ever since the time Charles Taze Russell (the first president of Watchtower) died. But one thing all these religions failed to notice is that this group has continued to prove themselves worthy of being true disciples of Christ in everything they're doing.

Only JWs preach from house to house in pairs just as Jesus commissioned it in the first century! Luke 10:1
Only JWs don't make noise in the streets just as Jesus did in the first century! Matthew 12:19
Only JWs separated themselves from worldly politics just as Jesus did in the first century {John 17:14; 18:36} and this has helped them to remain united in love {John 13:34-35} while others are devastated due to politics and racism killing their neighbours including fellow believers! Revelations 6:3-4
Only JWs don't protest against Governments order because they know what belongs to Caesar and they will never give God's things to Caesar! Mark 12:17
Only JWs don't monetize their ministry just as Jesus did in the first century {Matthew 10:8 Compare to Matthew 6:19-24} so whoever comes in never expects making money out of God's business.
Only JWs insist on marrying fellow JWs so no matter where you come from you can marry anyone you like among JWs! Matthew 12:46-50

I can go on and on the list of things peculiar to only this organization which makes all other religions including so called churches hate them calling them a CULT just as Jesus foretold they will call his true disciples! Matthew 10:25

So if you think all these are just coincidental well i don't, it's obvious that Jesus has been around since 1914 and working with this group to gather prospective subjects of his coming kingdom!

Lol. Jesus returned I the year 1914? Hahahaha.

It's alright. I don't want to continue with you.

VBCampaign:
Thread 2

My growing up years were in Zaria, Kaduna State. My father was a staff of the Ahmadu Bello University, so I had all my schooling there: elementary, secondary and even university education – all in Zaria. There is an account in this book on Leah that every Christian in Northern Nigeria can identify with: it is the fact that there is a general antagonism against Christians in the north. In Zaria, where the university offers a lot of liberal thinking, the antagonism was not that much (although we did have instances of Christians beings persecuted and killed for their faith). So when the book opened with the account that Leah Sharibu and her family lived in Dapchi town as minority Christians, I could understand. Their own situation was even more profound because Dapchi, Yobe State, does not have the Zaria liberal bent to Islam. Here is a classmate’s account of life in Dapchi as stated in the book:

"Dapchi is a predominantly Muslim town where only about 10% of the people are Christians. There are only four small churches in the Dapchi area and each church has a congregation of less than 30 people. The pressure to deny your faith and to live as a Muslim starts at a very young age. Generally, in Yobe State it is hard for Christian children to receive any formal education. As for Christian adults, they are often overlooked for jobs or leadership positions at the local or state levels due to religious discrimination. The persecution is real, and we live it on a daily basis. However, this kind of everyday persecution was nothing like what we were about to face…”

Another thing about living in northern Nigeria is that due to this ever present persecution, the nature of Christianity in Northern Nigeria is a lot different from the one in the south of the country. When you live day after day, knowing that one day you could pay the ultimate price for your faith, your commitment to Jesus Christ is real. There is a sense of not holding to the things of this world that is ingrained into your psyche; and then you join biblical accounts that tell you that the Christian life is one that is laced with persecution – including the reality of paying the ultimate price of being killed for your faith. From one’s early commitment to Jesus, the doctrine of never denying Christ no matter what is ingrained into your psyche. A deep Arminian theology also puts the fear of both renouncing faith in Christ and losing one’s salvation on the same stead. So when, in 2014, the Chibok girls were kidnapped in Borno State, all boarding schools in North Eastern Nigeria were put on red-alert. Everybody knew that it was only a matter of time before another school was ransacked by the terrorists.

So, in school, and at the Christian fellowship gathering, the students encouraged themselves in the faith and continually drum the fact into themselves that if ever their school was taken over by Boko Haram, there will not be a situation where any one of them will renounce their in Christ. It was doubly so for Leah Sharibu because she was actually the president of their Fellowship of Christian students. She was the one who taught the doctrine and it was her that must of a certainty live out its reality if ever it happened. Patience, one of Leah’s schoolmate, gives the account of events that happened at their dormitory, a day before the attack on their school:

... to be continued below

We're waiting for the continuation. The name of the Lord Jesus will be glorified in the north.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus chose the IBSA known today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES in the year 1914 before then all the religions on this planet were in the darkness spiritually speaking.

That's the truth!

That means all of Jesus' labours, including His death on Calvary were all a waste until 1914?

Kobojunkie:
Interesting twist! So, are we to assume that since God never said the Bible is the Word of God, then we are at liberty then to declare the Bible as the word of God?

In Scripture, it is instead written and declared boldly that Jesus Christ is the Word of God and Truth. But here you lot reject that all so you can instead declare your Bible the Word of God. Isn't this a direct rejection of that which is in fact written regarding that which is the Word of God?

Are we then supposed to infer that since God didn't say the Bible is the word of God, we are therefore at liberty to say it's not the word of God?

Jesus is the Word of God. The Perfect Word of God. Tell me what the Bible is all about? Is it not about God and His plan of salvation through Jesus Christ? The theme of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation is Jesus.

You heretic say you don't believe in Paul, so I'll quote Peter:

2Peter 3:13
"He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction."

What does the scriptures mean in at the bolded. It mean the word of Satan?

MaxInDHouse:
Because you're seeing humans acting so you feel it's man-made shey?
Well that's exactly how the people who were antagonizing God's people reason back then, since it's humans they're seeing they felt God's people aren't special!

You guys should stop all these!

When the Lord Jesus commissioned His disciples and baptised 120 people in the upper room, and also sent them out into all the world to preach the gospel, was He doing that because of Charles Taze Russell? Christ was doing it so that Charles Taze Russell can found Jehovah Witness Organization? That means all who lived before 1872 when Jehovah Witness was founded are all lost?

God's work is borne by many people in different organizations. There are tares, very many, but there are a handful of wheats too.

Even when Elijah thought he was the only righteous man in Israel, God made him know He had several others who had not bowed the knee to Baal.

Making your organization the only Godly organization on earth is satanic, and infact, that makes your organization a cult.

Kobojunkie:
Where is it written though that your Bible is the Word of God and it is backed by the Spirit of God?

Where is it written though that my Bible is not the word of God, and that it is not backed by the Spirit of God?

Sixfiguresmart:
shows him mercy for road traffic Violation? What was he supposed to do to him?

The mumu wants Buhari to kill him. You see, if you block this mumu's road, he'll be ready to take your life for it.

Dangerousboy:
THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD

Currently, there are some group of present day preachers who emphasize so much on the supernatural and believes they are being raised to correct some doctrinal errors in the body of Christ. Though Christianity itself is supernatural and believers are to live supernaturally, it's shouldn't be our main emphasis. Our emphasis is Jesus (the living word of God). We are to live and be guided by the word. John1:1, 5:39

Their new revelation is that the bible is not the word of God. Some even went as far as saying Paul and the Apostles made some errors. Their argument is that the number of times God speaks in the bible is just but a few.

Yes, that's true because God is not a talkative, he most times chose a willing vessel to speak through. And this was how most of the scriptures was written, Holy Ghost breathed/inspired.

2Tim.3.16 - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2Pet.1.20 - Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pet.1.21 - For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Rom.2.16 - In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. ( Or letter)

Isa.34.16 - Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.

Rom.2.16 - In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. ( Or letter)

Josh.1.8 - This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Ps.1.2 - But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. [/b]

So this new teaching of the bible is not the word of God is a fallacy.

Correct!

No matter who's speaking, once the word is backed by the Spirit of God, it becomes the Word of God.

Any word spoken by anybody becomes Buhari's word if such word is backed by Buhari.

The Bible is the Word of God because it's backed by the Spirit of God.

AntiChristian:
Good! Now give the reference and corresponding manuscript this was obtained from.

Advocatejare has done justice to this already. I posted the Hebrew scriptures earlier but was banned by bots.

AntiChristian:
Bro, abeg stop! I don't want to say you're telling lies yet. Even if we agree Elijah is your typo for Elisha, but your claim that a curse gives authority to the demons to do evil.

Elisha cursed the lads in the name of the Lord.

How does this turn demonic?

A curse is carried out by demons. The name in which the curse is laid only compels the demons to obey!

When we pray in Jesus name, all spirits obey because of the name.

If you do something in Buhari's name, does that mean Buhari is doing it himself?

Sometimes, when I read your reasonings, I am stunned at the deep ignorance Muslims have about the spirit realm.

Again, you should attack Mohammed first, since he saw all these in the Bible before confirming it.

AntiChristian:
I asked you these questions before, was it with your other moniker?

Of course no one has ever been able to answer how virgins were determined in your Bible?

Tell us the exact process!

Use your senses. How has warriors been determining virgins amongst their female captives to be dedicated to the service of their gods? Is it not through the help of older women? Even kids shouldn't be asking such questions.

Or you may ask Mohammed, since he saw this in the Bible before confirming it to you.

AntiChristian:
So we should agree that your God did kill innocent kids because of their fathers sins.

Also killed animals because of the people's sin!

My God is the Creator God. He has His good reasons for doing whatever He does. He's the only one who knows who's innocent, not you.

1Kings 14:13
"All Israel will mourn for him and bury him. He is the only one belonging to Jeroboam who will be buried, [b]because he is the only one in the house of Jeroboam in whom the LORD, the God of Israel, [/b]has found anything good."

The person referred to here is a new born baby. God knows the hearts of even a new born baby, and knows what they might do in future.

AntiChristian:
Too much waste of words, time, data, etc . The thread is about the Bible and i resist the urge to diversion to another topic.

I await your translation of the verse!

The translation of the verse from its original Hebrew is:

"Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel...,"

Meaning Saul's reign for the first one year was uneventful, but after two years, these things began to happen.

So, what's the fuss all about?

AntiChristian:
Olódò! It's not Elijah in the equation it's Elisha! This story is not John 3:16 that you know by heart! And as we know holy spirit doesn't exist, at least not in you!

So once again it's Elisha not Elijah that cursed lads to death!

So Jesus loves kids but his dad killed kids!
What a difference!

I should make a post with this.

You should have known that I meant to type Elisha. Elijah in that text was a typo. I didn't reread, I would have noticed it.

Was it God who cursed the kids? Elijah did.

First, what is a curse? A course is a word that gives demons authority to do evil.

When curses are released, demons are invoked. How does that involve God. I already told you that Elisha had the power but whether he misused it or not is a matter between him and God.

AntiChristian:
I know you'll respond! And of course I would reply. If it was Jesus what would he have done? Of course Jesus is peaceful unlike his father who is fond of killing.

I still don't know how this is a loving and forgiving God at all!

Virgins were even reserved for your Lord after the killings! I knew you won't be able to answer the associating questions?

How were the virgins figured out from the non virgins? Was it the holy spirit?

Man, what are you really struggling with?

This issue about virgins reserved for the work of the Tabernacle has been raised by you in the past. Are you a kid? How long should it take you that mature Israelites women would know how to figure out the virgins and report the matter to the appropriate authorities? You ran away from that thread only to be asking the same questions again. Don't you ever get tired?

Regarding the issue of what Jésud would have done; that's where many of you are.

Jesus was the one who brought the message of grace. In the Old testament, the law took preeminence.

Some disciples asked Jesus to send fire on some people who rejected Him as Elijah did. His reply:

"But He turned and rebuked them and said, “Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of." Luke 9:56.

You can't compare Jesus to anyone. He was a perfect Being.

AntiChristian:
So He can kill who or whatever He wishes to kill even if the killed has no sin right?

How many who and whatever did He kill? Trace all records. God punishes only sinners and blesses the righteous.

Even the Canaan invasion story had a long foundation. God told Abraham long ago that He'll use his offspring to punish those lands, "but that's be about 400+ yrs to this time. For the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full." Genesis 15:16.

AntiChristian:
So we can now agree that your God is violent too abi? Good! He has a sword! Good! To kill the wicked! But are all of them wicked? The fetuses? The animals? The kids?

Elisha and the Two Bears (2 Kings 2:23-25)

23 Then he (Elisha) went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25 And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.

So who killed the 42 kids and why were kids killed for mocking a man of God?

Na wetin God use the sword for be this?

Elijah was a man who had the power of God. God's power is God's gift to His people. Men can misuse power. In this case of Elijah, the matter is between Elijah and his God. I can't judge God's Prophet.

You should be worried that Mohammed couldn't raise the dead like Elijah did, but he killed many people unprovoked in his lifetime, and instructed you to do the same.

AntiChristian:
See another lie in bold from a Holy Spirit filled Christ follower!


See this below! Oya bring another excuse! Heaven and hell never dey then! When?

Numbers 31:17-18
So now, kill all the boys, as well as every woman who has had relations with a man, but spare for yourselves every girl who has never had relations with a man.

All boys/men are killed.

All women who had previously had sex were killed. (I still wonder what instrument was used to do this- Sexometer or Vaginometer)

Only virgins were spared!

Numbers 31:35
and 32,000 women who had not slept with a man.

How was this known? Will they have to open them up and use a speculum as in HVS test or what?

Yahweh gets a share of 32 Virgins!
Numbers 31:40
and 16,000 people, including a tribute to the LORD of 32.

No doubt, God is not the author of confusion or nonsense!
Far is He from what they ascribed to Him.

#biblicalterrorism999

The scriptures you quoted above relates to war between Israel and an enemy nation. During wars, it is normal to kill your enemies. God specifically instructed the Israelites on how to deal with the conquered enemy after He delivered them into Israel's hands. God used Israel to judge those nations because of bloodshed and idolatory. When Israel also committee the same sins, He used other nations to judge Israel too in the same manner. A God of justice! Remember, at that time, there was neither heaven or hell promised to anyone. All punishments for sins were physical punishments.

This has nothing to do with religion. God never said, kill unbelievers as wicked Allah instructed Muslims.

Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims)

Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)."

Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …"

Tell me who is lying. Myself or your quran?

Can't you see? Allah can't save, neither can he destroy. He needs you to help him destroy his enemies.

The God that scattered Israel in AD 70 because of their sins, promised to make them a nation again in the later days, and fulfilled that promise in 1949 can only be the true God. Have you ever considered that 2000 years of a nation's destruction makes it impossible for that nation to ever be made again. That miracle alone is a testament to the power of God.

AntiChristian:
So your God get power to destroy?

I thought it's only deliverance, miracles and property He's in charge of!

But all na lie!

If your God get sword, wetin Jesus get? Missiles?

Weyin animals and kids do your LORD?

I've told you several times. God blesses the righteous and destroys the wicked. That's justice!

The Creator of the whole world is also the Judge of the whole world!

AntiChristian:
1Samuel 13:1 - Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman

Evangelists, Pastors, Missionaries, and Bishops will not stop telling us that the Bible is the (inspired) word of God. When we study the Bible carefully, we will discover that this is the greatest blasphemy of all time.

The book of 1Samuel 13:1 and its translation in versions of the Bible has caused a great embarrassment for Christian apologists:

1.NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.

2. ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION
Saul lived for one year and then became king, and when he had reigned for two years over Israel.

3. KING JAMES BIBLE
Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

4. NET BIBLE
Saul was [thirty] years old when he began to reign; he ruled over Israel for [forty] years.

5. NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE 1977
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty-two years over Israel.

6. JPS TANAKH 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

7. AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

8. YOUNG'S LITERAL VERSION
A son of a year is Saul in his reigning, yea, two years he hath reigned over Israel

The bible is far from being the word of God and as David Cross puts it, ” Back when the bible was written, then edited, then rewritten, rewritten, then re-edited, then translated from dead languages, then re-translated, then edited, then rewritten, then given to kings for them to take their favorite parts, then rewritten, then re-rewritten, then translated again, then given to the pope for him to approve, then rewritten, then edited again, then re-re-re- re-rewritten again...all based on stories that were told orally 30 to 90 years after they happened, to people who did not how to write...so..."

Any seeker of truth should not find it difficult to disregard the bible being the complete word of God rather it is a book that contains the words of God, Historians, Poets, Kings, etc...

From the book, 'Truth for the Truth Seekers - (A total demystification of the Bible and Christianity (Revised Edition)
Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman

RoyalDiadems
truthmans2012

The Bible has never been rewritten or re-edited in its original languages. The re-edition and re-writing was done only in the translated languages to move it into more perfect translation of the original languages.

The Bible as we have it today was canonized at Nicea in about 327 AD. Mohammed came 200yrs later to confirm the same Bible. So, what is your point?

All the noise you make about the re-edition and changing of the Bible is false, and targeted at barring others from knowing the truth.

The original Quran was destroyed by Uthman. He wrote another Quran of his own and translated it to 7 languages. The original Quran Mohammed gave you guys is long gone. What you're holding onto today is Uthman's Quran written by Uthman. Are you guys not being deceived?

AntiChristian:
Zephaniah 2:12-13
The Judgment on Cush and Assyria
12“You too, O Cushites (Ethiopia), will be slain by My sword.” 13And He will stretch out His hand against the north and destroy Assyria;

You didn't tell us Yahweh get sword!
Has He destroyed it?
Where is the sword now?
And how is He using it?
RoyalDiadems

This should tell you that the God of the Bible is the true God. Where is Assyria today, destroyed!

Google it. He has destroyed Assyria. Assyria ceased to be a nation not long after that prophecy.

That's something Allah can never do.

Yes, God has sword. He has instruments for punishing the wicked.

AntiChristian:
This is what the LORD of Hosts says: ‘I witnessed what the Amalekites did to the Israelites when they ambushed them on their way up from Egypt. 3Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.
1 Samuel 15:3

1.But why kill women and infants?

2. Why kill Oxen, sheep, camels and donkeys?

3. Why kill innocent people?

RoyalDiadems
truthmans2012

Bring una excuses o! God is so merciful and Forgiving!
#biblicalterrorism999

You've created many threads on this same topic, each time, you abandon your own threads. Don't you ever get tired?

The scriptures you quoted relates to Israel and the Amalekites. God promised Israel that He'll punish Amalek and wipe them off the face of the Earth. He did exactly that. Tell me where is Amalek today. The God that can speak and do what He says ought to be feared.

Tell me where Allah ever forgave someone in your quoran. Allah doesn't forgive. He says one thing and does another. Typical of the devil.

Allah is forgiving, yet he commanded you guys to kill unbelievers instead of saving them.

God is merciful and forgiving only if you repent and forsake your evil ways. If you continue doing evil, He'll wait a long time for you to repent. It you don't repent, He'll destroy you!

God destroyed Amalek about 400yrs after waiting long for them to repent. That's mercy at its best.

AntiChristian:
1Samuel 13:1 - Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman

Evangelists, Pastors, Missionaries, and Bishops will not stop telling us that the Bible is the (inspired) word of God. When we study the Bible carefully, we will discover that this is the greatest blasphemy of all time.

The book of 1Samuel 13:1 and its translation in versions of the Bible has caused a great embarrassment for Christian apologists:

1.NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.

2. ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION
Saul lived for one year and then became king, and when he had reigned for two years over Israel.

3. KING JAMES BIBLE
Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

4. NET BIBLE
Saul was [thirty] years old when he began to reign; he ruled over Israel for [forty] years.

5. NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE 1977
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty-two years over Israel.

6. JPS TANAKH 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

7. AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

8. YOUNG'S LITERAL VERSION
A son of a year is Saul in his reigning, yea, two years he hath reigned over Israel

The bible is far from being the word of God and as David Cross puts it, ” Back when the bible was written, then edited, then rewritten, rewritten, then re-edited, then translated from dead languages, then re-translated, then edited, then rewritten, then given to kings for them to take their favorite parts, then rewritten, then re-rewritten, then translated again, then given to the pope for him to approve, then rewritten, then edited again, then re-re-re- re-rewritten again...all based on stories that were told orally 30 to 90 years after they happened, to people who did not how to write...so..."

Any seeker of truth should not find it difficult to disregard the bible being the complete word of God rather it is a book that contains the words of God, Historians, Poets, Kings, etc...

From the book, 'Truth for the Truth Seekers - (A total demystification of the Bible and Christianity (Revised Edition)
Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman

RoyalDiadems
truthmans2012

Was the Bible written in English? Why don't you quote from the original language? Translators can make mistakes. Check the original language for the real message.

The Bible is the Word of God, not because of those who spoke and acted in it, but because, through it you can have encounters with the Spirit of God.

AntiChristian:
And this your so-called Judgement is not violent terrorism right?

What kind of Hypocrisy are you guys exhibiting here?

Seek one or more excuses for your Book and demonise the other wanting no excuse!

Violent terrorism against whom?

At that time, there were no promises of heaven or hell. Punishment for sin waṣ physical.

He who gave the land, took the land back when it was filled with blood.

Is that not different from Allah who instructed Mohammed and all Muslims from generation to generation to go on a killing spree against those who reject Satan who is Allah in disguise.

If I'm wrong, tell me where Allah ever instructed you to save unbelievers out of mercy for their perishing souls.

haekymbahd:
Yeah you're right the Father of Jesus deserved to be blamed for this...

Isaiah 13

13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble; and the [b]earth shall be shaken out of its place at the wrath of the Lord of hosts in the day of His fierce anger.

14 And like the chased roe or gazelle, and like sheep that no man gathers, each [foreign resident] will turn to his own people, and each will flee to his own land.

15 Everyone who is found will be thrust through, and everyone who is connected with the slain and is caught will fall by the sword.

16 Their infants also will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be plundered and their wives ravished.

17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, who have no regard for silver and do not delight in gold [and thus cannot be bribed].

The scripture you quoted above was God's judgement for Idolatrous Israel. Not against unbelievers.

God gave Israel the land of Canaan with the promise that if they commit sin as the people of Canaan did, He would judge then the same way He had used Israel to judge Canaan.

And that's exactly what He did. He stirred up several nations against them as punishment for worshipping idols. Babylonians, Medes, Assyrians, Midianites, etc.

That's justice! And that applies only to Israel as a nation, not Christians!

This is unlike your satanic Allah who says all Muslims must fight their neighbors. There nowhere in the quoran where Muslims are urged to save unbelievers from hell! They're asked to kill them instead.

Meanwhile, the need to save the lost and help UNBELIEVERS come to the knowledge of salvation is the major theme of the Bible.

And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Jude 1:23

This scripture above has thousands of its similitude scattered all over the Bible. Give us just one quranic equivalent of it.

Maynman:
Trash from someone under the influence of middle east gods without having knowledge of the deity he’s worshipping.

You are so desperate to worship deity, how can unknown authors lead you to anywhere? Do you know the deity those UNKNOWN AUTHORS are talking about?
Your yahweh is dead and is in the GARBAGE, and you will worship Abrahamaic gods till you D I E!
You are an idiot that will forever be a slave to middle east gods even when you DIE, i only pity your kids!
Your useless yahwrh is only found in a random book with UNKNOWN AUTHORS, he’s useless outside those books!

If you are not brainwashed and brainless you won’t bring that dumb analogy, do i need to travel to londo, to read their history?
Tell me which DOCTRINE are you? You this indoctrinated lifeless sheep.
Do i need to believe in a deity before I experience london? Yahweh worshipper bwahahahah

The more you are quoting random books with their characters inside i.e devil and demon, the more stupid you will continue to sound. I don't expect you to show any more Intelligence, I have already observed you and your Israelite deity to be irredeemably stupid.


Your deity is a jealous genocide dunce, what a loving god you reta,rd is serving. Why don’t you worship Yahweh father, El and Asheera, without them your Yahweh doesn’t exist

Don’t it sounds foolish to you that you are basing your life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS?
Calling me “satan” and “devil” without knowing the meaning, is that how miserable and desperate your life is?

Fool, you are just regurgitating what your shepherd told you, better look up the origin of the word “Church” and keep worshipping in your shrine

Keep on quoting random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS, and living in delusion, when you die you’ll go to heaven or hell that exist only in those random books, i only pity your kids

Tell me who destroyed your life that you can’t do without deities, you even went as far to middle east deities, is your life that terrible?
Even your god stood as a “satan” to baalaam. That’s what you get when you say words you don’t know their meaning.
You’ll worship middle east gods till you D I E!

Why are you heading for doom, RoyalDiadems? Garbage you are, Garbage is your useless israelite god, yawheh both of you fools will return to dust bin!, let that sink in to your indoctrinated brain.

You see, sane people don't have discourse with lunatics. Everyone knows you're a psychiatric patient. I just mentioned you thinking you might have been healed.

But, since your illness has grown even worse, the sane man must leave the mad man to himself until the day he finds healing.

Bye!

Maynman:
Brainwashed RoyalDiadems, i bind the indoctrination and brainwashing destroying you in baal hadad name!, i can also call name from random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS

You don’t know what you worship, what language was your random books written? What do they call “hod” in those languages?

Your London analogy is flawed like your useless Yahweh, you’ve been to london, have you been to “heaven and hell?
Besides If I want to learn the history of London i read history books not go and live in London,
If i need to experience london, i can travel, verify and come back, not listen to your belief about london! you see your stupidity in glare?

For basing your life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHOR and chanting “satan” and “demon” without knowing their meaning can you see how dumb that’s?
Outside those random books where else do you read about them? I’m satan and demon, what else is written in those random books to call someone for exposing your Israelite god? Bwahahahah


You are basing your miserable life on books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS, i pity your kids!
You will worship middle east gods till you D I E!

You’ll always sound retar,ded quoting books you don’t know their ORIGIN or AUTHORS. And being delusional about generic experiences as if other deities worshippers don’t have same experience too!
Besides those experiences couldn’t work in a church in Owo, are doomed!

You cannot force your indoctrination and ignorance on me, worshipping middle east deities based on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS, and calling me names that’s only found in those random books, do you think It’s effective? bwahahahah

do you even know the deity you are worshipping, Yahweh is a tetragrammation of YHWH, why not start from there and see how you’ve duped into worshipping middle east gods till you D I E!
You follow yahweh of shasu tribe because that’s what you’ve been indoctrinated with from birth, worshipping Middle East gods!
Why don’t you verify the book you are seeing all these yahweh claims and see Israelite propaganda
For you to know the history of london, you need to read on their history or even visit their artifacts and museums, which have you reach in heaven or hell?
Or you are reading it in books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS?
Do i need to believe in a deity before I experience london?




You ONLY know what’s written in those random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS and lack knowledge of the israelite deity you are worshipping, you are a reta,rd!
You’ll worship Semitic god till you die and go to hell that’s described in those random books with UNKNOWN AUTHOR


Garbage you are, Garbage is your useless israelite god, yahweh and both of you will return into a dustbin! aka hell


See yahweh father below
Once again, You’ll worship Abrahamaic gods till you die!

Thrash from someone who's under the influence of Satan without knowing it himself.

Unknown authors can lead you to a known God. Yahweh is almighty! He's been here and worshipped by men and feared by Satan and demons ever before your fathers were born, and He'll continue to be here after you're long dead. He has outlived everyone of you fools. And you fools will still meet Him face to face when you die.

Had it been you're wise, you would have intelligently considered the analogy i gave you above rather then shouting 'Brainwashed' up and down. The more you shout 'Brainwashed', the more stupid you will continue to sound. I don't expect you to show any more Intelligence, I have already observed you to be irredeemably stupid.

Why? Because, there has never been a church gathering where people are brainwashed. I myself would have departed Christianity in 1999 if not for the miraculous encounter that I had prior to my forsaking God. I can say I was fortunate.

God is so sweet to walk with; very loving and immeasurably powerful. You don't know whom you're pitching your tent against. He's waiting for you only to repent. Once your cup is full, you will drink the dredge of the full cup of His indignation.

Yeah, it may sound foolish to you because God is not like man, and He's extremely patient and kind with humans. He would not act rashly until He has given you enough time to repent.

Keep on in your delusion, hell is waiting to receive you. But I pray for you that you may have your eyes opened and embrace salvation.

Tell me, what has God done to you to make you hate God that much? Your campaign has been against your Maker instead of channeling it against Satan who's the archenemy of man.

Why destroy yourself maynman? Dust you are, and to dust shall you return. Let that sink!

Maynman:
Brainwashed royaldiadems, that just goes to show you lack knowledge of the deities you are worshipping, the god you are worshipping is found in a random book with UNKNOWN AUTHORS that’s what you are basing your miserable life on? Pity your kids!
Your indoctrinated mindset won’t let you think!

Reta,rd i never told you to prove anything, it was you that said you had “ various veritable evidence” yet you can’t prove them, semitic gods have destroyed you!
Your yahweh is a useless common storm god, if you so much love middle east gods why don’t you worship yahweh father and mother, EL and Asheerah?
Your deity couldn’t arrest those killers that killed people in church in owo, he is more interested in matters like this?
You see the rubbish you are worshipping?

You are calling iesus chrestus another Roman creation bwhahahah.
Better look up the meaning of “demon”, all what you believe is a LIE, have knowledge about your religion, you’ve been duped, sheep!

I’m dust, your useless yahweh too is dust. Your future is already messed up but baal hadad can give you a better future if you make him your god. I pity your kids!

You are in eternal bondage of semitic gods o

Dumb maynman. I bind the demons in you in Jesus mighty name!

I know what I worship, okay? You cannot school someone who has been to London about London it you've not been to London yourself. What you read in books about London does not mean anything to someone who has experienced London. There in iies your foolishness.

For, trying to use web articles to teach someone about the Almighty God with whom he/she has a personal ongoing relationship with deep seated supernatural experiences, where satan and his cohorts remain subdued is an effort in futility.

You will always sound foolish because what you describe in your copy and paste posts are very dissimilar to what we experience. Perhaps, if your posts bear a striking similarity to our group experiences, reason would that we should listen to you.

You cannot force your evil ideologies based on your warped thinking influenced by satanic propaganda on anyone!

We don't believe or follow Yahweh just because of who He claims to be. We've passed that stage. We're human beings and our senses are fully awake. We follow Yahweh because of whom we discovered Him to be in our walk with Him. If our position with God would change, the reason would be experiential, not propaganda. And, as I noted before in the London allegory, experience is superior to theory.

You know only what you read, and we also know whom we serve, okay. Stop being foolish!

Dust you are, and to dust shall you return!