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[quote author=advocatejare post=116404025][/quote]Antichristian, I have already told you that the Bible was not originally written as a religious manual. Different authors penned down their writings for different purposes, but miraculously, all the purposes are in alignment with God's grand plan of salvation.

The Books of Samuel, Kings and Chronicles were written by Israelite scribes to teach Israelites kids about Israel's history.

The scribes penned down what they knew to be truth, and did that with all honesty to pass accross the nation's history to the next generation flawlessly. There's nothing written with an intention to deceive. All records were written truthfully to the best of the Author's knowledge. That honesty is what God blesses. Anything human beings do have flaws, but if done in sincerity, God will still be glorified in those flaws. God uses only men for His works on earth. He doesn't use angels. Men are imperfect beings, but God uses faithful people to bless the world even when they have imperfect knowledge. God still uses imperfect people till today.

Several of these books were found to carry a divine message. Though some of the Authors were thousands of years apart, yet they carried a united message that unveiled God's plan for the salvation of mankind. They were then collected together to make up the Bible.

Reading through the Bible with an open heart would bring you into the understanding that God breathed upon those written words.

The Bible is not the Word[b]s[/b] of God, but the Word of God. Words in there are spoken by many characters, but the Book as a whole has only one message. That message is what makes it the Word of God.

Reading the Bible solely for the purpose of finding arguments and fighting Christians will yield no profit for your soul.

LordReed:
Been there, done that.

No. So you thought.

So many wrong places and wrong people look right to the uninformed.

LordReed:
And what I am asking for is more than personal experience.

You'll get it if you can move with the right people and be in the right places.

Mufakirnaqdiun:
Nice excuse to cover Christian stupidity.

Nice way to avoid deductive reasoning.

LordReed:
In other words you cannot demonstrate what you are saying. That's ok.

Oh, it could be demonstrated, because demons do manifest.

What I'm talking about relates to having your own personal experience.

LordReed:
And how can you evidence that an atheist is possessed by a demon? Or that demons even exist?

If your inner eyes are not open, there's no way you can see or experience the spirit realm. You'll be shut up in the realm of logic and think that's all there is to life.

Ask God to take you on a spiritual journey. Pray earnestly in the name of Jesus. You'll start having experiences as you persevere. The spirit realm is best experienced than explained. Human vocabulary is very limited as a medium for expressing spiritual things.

Mufakirnaqdiun:
Lol from a Christian website.If the Bible says that that’s where the ark landed then the remains are there but no one has discovered verifiable remains,why?

Then the most obvious evidence of a global flood would be human artifacts buried alongside, or underneath, the layers of rocks containing dinosaurs,lol.
In addition, we’d expect to find, e.g. fossils of modern cetaceans (whales, dolphins, and porpoises) alongside the fossils of ichthyosaurs, mososaurs, and plesiosaurs, since all were living in the ocean (or rivers) and all these groups occupied a wide range of ecological niches across the planet. We’d expect to find members of modern mammal families alongside the bones of dinosaurs. We don’t. Bones aren’t sorted the way we’d expect from a global flood (biggest and heaviest on the bottom, lighter ones above), but segregated by type, with the more modern-looking assemblages of species higher in the rock columns.
None of that,it's a myth.

You want to find the remains of a wooden ark that was built over 5,000yrs ago? Keep searching.

You want to find buried human artifacts of a civilization that had less than a million people in population and were carried away by a global flood? Keep searching.

Someday, you will find.

LordReed:
Sincere question: what do you think being an atheist means?

It means being possessed by a demon of self destruction that shuts a man completely away from spiritual realities and makes him to live a logical life in a spiritual universe to the destruction of his own soul.

So, Antichristian has not responded to this thread till today? The lies of Mohammed are so obvious but Spiritual blindness is real.

Only the Holy Spirit can do the work of salvation in a lost soul. They can't see the errors of their ways even if you show it to them in black and white.

May the Lord have mercy on all pershing souls and show them His salvation.

drololaaof:
Is the governor just waking up after 3years and six months. There is more to it than shown . Politics of destruction

They've been on it. They're just discovering more and more. Presently there are matters in court. Saraki got loans in the name of Kwara state government, but the loan were for himself. Many state properties and businesses were also converted to Saraki properties. Many matters. They're been in court on sundry issues relating to Saraki.

Obinoscopy:
What he meant is that the reason why we all speak different language was due to what happened on the Babylonian Tower in Genesis. I'm sure you know the story.

So, did we now inherit our different tongues from the Bible?

Mynd44:
Abdulfatai….

At the behest of Saraki.

Many Nigerians don't know how wicked and corrupt Saraki is. A very cunning fellow.

YungJo207:
SMH....madam/Oga have a nice day pls

We've been where you are. So, we can tell you the truth.

Have a nice day too, and thanks for your time.

YungJo207:
Lol madam/ Oga go and get more knowledge from your field and don't be too religious.

We have passed that stage. Who has religion ever helped?

A definite encounter with Jesus is all you need. Not religion.

YungJo207:
That your own problem I would just advise you mind your business next time or seek more knowledge.

See them na them holy pass like you even know a demon if you see one.

My friend, give your life to Christ. There's no problem prayers cannot solve.

These things you're adventuring would bring temporal solutions while bigger problems appear. I'm talking from what I've gathered from people's experience.

Jesus can solve all your problems permanently without charging you a single dime.

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silibaba:
Before you will start arguing, go and read the bible very well.

The Roman Catholic Church is an occult church. It was originally a true church of God until it was taken over by Constantine. Eventually, an occultic man from the Babylonian Cult became the pope. He infused the church with so many occultic and Antichrist doctrines.

The Roman Catholic church principally worships the queen of heaven which is Shemiramis, also called Ishtar. They call her Mary only to deceive the gullible.

silibaba:
What am trying to pass across is that, the communion you receive doing

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your communion service does not hold water.

Only the priest is ordained to carry out such sacrifice. But is so sad that now pastors now indulge in it.
Go and read why samuel said OBIDIENCE IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE

1samuel 17:34

Read it carefully.

The communion is not a sacrifice!

The Apostles of Jesus were not priests, yet they served communion.

The communion is a symbolic representation of Christ's sacrifice. Not a sacrifice in itself. Calling it a sacrifice is satanic!

OkCornel:
Therefore Satan’s speech in the book of Job is “the word of God” right?

The Bible is God's message to the world.

The individual speeches are not our focus. We focus on the message that makes it the Word of God.

Sixfiguresmart:
Well, I get that. You see, the Sunni Muslims dislike the Shiites but they need them to fight the war against the Christians.
When they have killed all infidels, they will never spare the Shiites.

Hilarious. .

The Shites too won't spare the Sunnis. That means, even after all infidels are killed, the Jihad continues.

OkCornel:
Where Satan accused Job before God, are Satan’s words there “the word of God”?

I already explained that the Bible as the word of God does not refer to individual characters or events. Satan spoke but the entire message in that episode is the Word of God. There's a message from God in that episode.

Kobojunkie:
Notice how all of what you state here is according to your digest of what is written and not actually according to that which is stated by God Himself?

You take it upon yourself to decide for God what is His Word and what is not, and in the process You ignore that told you by God Himself all so you can instead assert your will in place of His. Isn't that an amazing thing about those of you who claim to worship and revere God?

You need to be prayed for. I wouldn't waste time explaining scriptures to you again. You actually need deliverance. Everyone knows that. So, go seek God's face first. You're an heretic serving Satan thinking you're serving God. The day you come to realize this, that's the day you would be librated.

OkCornel:
So where demons spoke, it’s also the “word of God”

Where Satan spoke, it’s also the “word of God”

Interesting…

In all places where demons spoke in the Bible, you learn many things:

1. Demons know that there's God.
2. Demons fear God.
3. Demons are powerless before God's people.
4. Demons tremble wherever the name of Jesus is mentioned.
5. Demons submit to anyone who has the Spirit of God.

And many more.

Now, these example 5 points above, are the the words of Satan? Does Satan even want you to know all these? That's the word of God! Everything in the Bible carries a message for you. That message is revealed by the Holy Spirit.

AntiChristian:
No i won't attack someone who never mentioned Bible. No Muslim believe in the Bible of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, etc.

Yeah, we pray only in the name Allah as we believe only Him is able to answer us.

Those who pray to idols believe it will fulfill their needs.

So Elisha prayed in the name of the Lord as it's only Him that answers prayers!

When your Biblical God killed animals, was it demons He sent?

When kids are sent to be killed no be demons!

Isaiah 45:7 say your God created good and bad no be demons!

But since your god created nothing, why should you fear him?

Yeah, my God created good and bad because as a judge, He must both bless and punish.

Your ignorance of the spirit realm is alarming. The Bible says "God will judge the righteous and the sinners." Why? Righteous people can misuse divine privileges.

What Elisha had was not just power but Spiritual Authority. Any spiritual man reading this will understand. Both since Islam is given only to sense logic, how can you understand?

AntiChristian:
Tell me the nitty gritty? Were the warriors testing them with hands or candles?

Quote Bible verses as women were not involved in the war from Moses side!

Ask Mohammed to tell you the nitty gritty. Since Mohammed still confirmed the Torah to be the word of God even after reading this.

AntiChristian:
But hypocrisy won't let you give the same excuse when it's other religion?

Your God can do anything even if doesn't make sense to you at the moment!

You should defend your own religion if it has anything to defend. It's irresponsible to say accuse other religions in a bid to justify your Allah's errors.

I stated things as they are without pointing accusing fingers at Islam. *
"They're telling you, this is what your God did", your reply "Your God did the same" is irresponsible. Why can't you defend your own God?

Moreso, everywhere you point in the Bible to justify your Quran are always erroneous. That's what we have just shown you. There's no justification anywhere for killing people simply because they are not Muslims! Mohammed took his murderous tendencies further by instructing you to do the same! Where's the similarity?

You'll be referring to Israel's wars of national sovereignty as a way to justify religious murder. Is that right?

AntiChristian:
Yeah and you both proved that your Hebrew scripture was incomplete as the number of years was represented with dash twice.

See my second post on this thread.

So where does the dashes come from, the holy spirit or from the copyists?

There's no dash in the Hebrew texts. Translators often struggle to understand the real import of words. Hebrew, Greek, Latin and Aramaic are perfect languages. Sometimes, a word can convey so many meanings related to its context. So, it takes a lot of thinking to arrive at what the original writer is trying to imply. Coupled with the fact that any other language, including English have vocabulary deficits in relation to the aforementioned languages.

OkCornel:
So where demons spoke in the Bible, are their words also “the word of God”?

Calling the Bible the word of God does not refer to individual Bible characters.

The Bible is the word of God because it's backed by the Spirit of God. Even where demons spoke, you learn something about God, His power, and they of God's enemy.

Sixfiguresmart:
Do you hate Zak?

He is Nigerian and has same rights as everyone else. How can death be the consequences of blocking a road? Where is that written in the constitution?

He didn't vocally demand that Buhari should kill him, did he?

Now, what section if the constitution gives president the right to kill a citizen whenever he decides to?

Is the presidency above the judiciary?

Read again. I was talking in your defence. We're on the same page.

Kobojunkie:
You can't respond as all you have to offer are the soundbites you have been fed by your pastors and mogs, right? And when none of that works, you are quick to attach the messenger instead of the message, abi?
Again...
1. Did God give men the power to infer anything on His behalf?

2.

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You say your bible contains God's plan of Salvation, but it also contains the doctrines and traditions of men, which Jesus Christ warned are an abomination to God, lies. Your bible also contains words of Satan, the Father of lies. What this means is that not all that is contained in your Bible amounts to the Truth of the God kind, right?

Now, it is written in scripture that Jesus Christ is the one who is God's Word, and Truth, meaning there is no lie to be found in Jesus Christ. If there is no lie to be found in Jesus Christ, then it follows that Jesus Christ cannot be your Bible, meaning the Word of God, Jesus Christ, is not your Bible, and your Bible is not Jesus Christ, God's Word and Truth.. This is simple Logic!

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3. I don't believe in Paul, nor in Peter since both were men and are to this day in their graves waiting along with everyone else who claimed to believe in Jesus Christ for Jesus Christ to return and judge their every work. Unlike you, I actually obey God who said not to put one's trust in flesh and blood - Jeremiah 17 vs 5. So, for me, what Paul wrote and what Peter claimed, all should be validated against that decreed by God Himself. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you take it up with God who instead said that by the accounts of 2 or 3 witnesses shall truth(spoken of men) be established.

Mtcheww.

Kobojunkie:
You can't respond as all you have to offer are the soundbites you have been fed by your pastors and mogs, right? And when none of that works, you are quick to attach the messenger instead of the message, abi?
Again...
1. Did God give men the power to infer anything on His behalf?

2.

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You say your bible contains God's plan of Salvation, but it also contains the doctrines and traditions of men, which Jesus Christ warned are an abomination to God, lies. Your bible also contains words of Satan, the Father of lies. What this means is that not all that is contained in your Bible amounts to the Truth of the God kind, right?

Now, it is written in scripture that Jesus Christ is the one who is God's Word, and Truth, meaning there is no lie to be found in Jesus Christ. If there is no lie to be found in Jesus Christ, then it follows that Jesus Christ cannot be your Bible, meaning the Word of God, Jesus Christ, is not your Bible, and your Bible is not Jesus Christ, God's Word and Truth.. This is simple Logic!

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3. I don't believe in Paul, nor in Peter since both were men and are to this day in their graves waiting along with everyone else who claimed to believe in Jesus Christ for Jesus Christ to return and judge their every work. Unlike you, I actually obey God who said not to put one's trust in flesh and blood - Jeremiah 17 vs 5. So, for me, what Paul wrote and what Peter claimed, all should be validated against that decreed by God Himself. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you take it up with God who instead said that by the accounts of 2 or 3 witnesses shall truth(spoken of men) be established.

I have engaged you several times enough to know that you've sold out your soul to the devil. No one can help you now. Only Jesus can.

I can't waste my time schooling you because you never desire the truth.