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Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 2:50pm On Nov 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I was attending to some business.

God is a happy person but why not ask of their offense before God asked the Israelites to exterminate this people?🙂
😂

Exactly my point... They did nothing and you can't tell me what they did either... And yet you justify their extermination...

You see how religion is messed up?
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 8:21am On Nov 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The people who came to enslave others are not believers in Christ so you got it wrong again Sir! 🙂
God, through Christ and the apostles, instructed slaves to obey their earthly masters, even when harsh (Ephesians 6:5–8; Colossians 3:22–24; 1 Peter 2:18). Christ did not condemn slavery;

Today, our sense of justice and freedom exists independently of these instructions.
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 8:14am On Nov 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Again you got it wrong Sir!🙂
There is no difference between those in your village and people around the world they are all humans so to be really happy you can't inflict pain on people who has done you no wrong only to take the spoils to yet other humans.
Right thinking ones among those you are taking the spoils to will refuse to take it from you when they discover you are hurting others just to please them!🙂
Very Good, Let's run a litmus test



God commanded the Israelites to kill every man, woman, and child in Bashan under King Og. You had never touched them, never provoked them, and still you were slaughtered and your land taken (Deuteronomy 3:1–6). Was God a sadist?
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 8:02am On Nov 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Now you've stopped asking questions but telling me what you concluded due to events. smiley
First of all God shouldn't reveal all these things to us but out of kindness He has done what even you won't do.
Adam and Eve chose to be on Satan's side and billions upon billions of their descendants are following their path so God is doing this for the few among Adam's descendants who have proved to be different despite all the troubles caused by the three rebels even though they don't know how or what led to all these but they still try as much as possible to live by their conscience! Romans 2:14-15
So why do people like me believe that the Bible God is the one and only true God?
After narrating how everything started and what led mankind to this condition He made a promise and today He is fulfilling it globally just as it's written in the Bible.
Where most people like got everything all wrong is when you failed to investigate matters expecting things to fall in place like Job in the Bible then instead of humbly seeking guidance like Job your summed everything up and concluded there is no Yahweh {Psalms 10:4} but when the table turns and you find yourself in the same situation you expect everyone around you to dig deep before judging you! smiley

Well if you want to know what God has promised and if fulfilling throughout the earth today i will be here to show you but if you're still keeping grudges against God for the consequences of the evil deeds of Satan, Adam and Eve i wish you luck!🙂
I do not know if I can keep engaging this. People brought religion to us and did things their own scriptures approved, even slaves had bibles grin, yet I am expected to hold a grudge against God or Satan. I do not care about either. Eternity means nothing to me. What is the point of eternal life? Happiness without sadness has no context, you'll need opposites to know one. Endless existence without contrast is emptiness.

The fear and greed that fuel Christianity are childish to me. I will not live like a coward because someone threatened me with eternal fire or promised me streets of gold. None of it is real. If heaven were real, it would not look like ancient human fantasies filled with trumpets, gold, and robes. Muslim heaven has horses and feasts. Christian heaven has gold and giant-sized fairies. These are not divine visions. They are human imaginations.

People live here on earth, yet spend their lives obsessed with another world they cannot see. Good for them. I hope they reach their heaven or their hell. As for me, I will not be in either.
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 7:50am On Nov 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You got it all wrong Sir!
Those whose life has a purpose are really happy and so they derive joy in making others around them happy or let's just say they love putting smiles on people's face.
It's sadists whose life is purposeless to them that feels like inflicting pain on others!🙂
A man whose purpose is to bring happiness to those around him goes to others, murders and pillages their land. Then, brings the spoils home, and his community is happy and joyous. Meanwhile, the people he took from suffer in pain and tears. Is this not the purpose you just defined?

Is he not a sadist?
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 7:38am On Nov 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what makes many to become sadistic and when others are rejoicing you will be complaining as if everyone should join you to become sadists.
Well that's the good thing about life we all can't reason the same way if you feel like your life is purposeless with God try to make a purpose for yourself without God nah!🙂
Same reason why another finds purpose in Allah, and turns terrorist.

I have given my life a purpose, if I didn't define what life is to me, I would have quit living. I wrote that culture gives life a purpose, let me extend it by adding that it gives deities like God or Allah a purpose too

As a Christian, your purpose is to worship God. Then those who aren't Christians have no purpose or perhaps have a wrong purpose...
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 7:17am On Nov 26, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So you're saying that the purpose of life is culture? Is that the purpose why we're here?

If you agree that they do, what is the ultimate standard for determining what Is right and wrong?
Life has no inherent purpose until you give it one. If you truly knew the purpose of life, you would not search for it in a book. Defining your existence by a text written centuries after humanity began suggests that everyone who lived before it had no purpose, even those who wrote the book. Life does not come with a pre-written meaning; you awaken, open your eyes, and you are here. You alone give your life meaning.

Culture, not a book, shapes the way life is lived. It defines life and gives it context. Searching for purpose in a book is a shortcut that ignores your own humanity. Morality and understanding of right and wrong should arise from your experience, not from pages written by men centuries ago.

Beyond religion, ethnicity, or race, you are a human being. You feel pain, joy, love, and loss just as any other person does. When you read accounts of violence, injustice, or oppression in those texts and justify them, yet react with emotion when seeing similar acts in real life or in movies, it becomes obvious that religion has warped your sense of morality.
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 7:01am On Nov 26, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The Bible called it "dust" not "sand" 🙂
Meaning the figurative snake will feed on whatever he sees humans doing here on earth instead of the spiritual food (divine guidance) creatures on earth were all created from dust {Ecclesiastes 3:19-20} so Satan can't get any guidance from the divine anymore rather it's the earthly creatures that will determine his next line of action throughout the rest of his life until God destroy him!🙂


If you have met Churchians claiming they are Christians this is not the usual Churchgoer o so instead of jumping to conclusions thinking you have gotten all the answers try to ask questions and wait for response otherwise you will get yourself provoked while thinking you can provoke me with your attitude.
Satan wasn't driven out of heaven from the beginning God separated him from among his loyal spirit sons so Satan was in spiritual darkness meaning there is no further divide information he could get from that very moment.


Peter became a born again Christian and it's these anointed Christians that God started revealing sacred secrets of what happened in heaven to which Satan and other rebellious angels have no access to! 1Peter 1:12
So the Born Again Christians knew so much that even ancient servants of God before them never knew.

BORN AGAIN are not misinformed Churchgoers o!
So take a deep breath before asking the questions, your attitude can never ever piss me off like you have done to those misinformed churchgoers. smiley
I am not here to soften the truth. If God wanted His message clear, it would not have been buried under centuries of translation, debate, and human tampering. The Bible did not descend from heaven; it was written, edited, and selected by men. A message that must be endlessly reinterpreted cannot condemn anyone for misunderstanding it.

Timothy’s claim that “all Scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit” never meant the Bible as we know it. That collection did not exist. Yet today, believers defend contradictions, moral conflicts, and endless reinterpretations as divine truth. Thousands of churches read the same book and preach different doctrines, each selecting different portions from God’s imperfect words that syncs with their ideal of perfection.

Let's shine candlelight: Catholics don't agree with Jehovah Witness, just as Abel Damina is deemed a reprobate by fellow Christians...

Satan, often blamed for evil, is only performing traits God created. If God watches while destruction unfolds, He shows a love even for the devil that many humans never receive. The cosmic battle looks less like justice and more like an experiment, with humans as pawns, God and Satan playing their roles.

Christianity itself spread on violence, conquest, and coercion. Guns, chains, whips, and Bibles brought people to the faith. Brutality, manipulation and indoctrination enforced conversion, yet believers speak of the gospel as THE GOOD NEWS!!!

Everything we know, everything we call divine, was shaped, interpreted, and maintained by human hands, from the divinity of Christ, to the canonisation of the books that made it to the bible and clarification of doctrine. If God remains silent while His words are twisted, authority rests not in heaven but in the mind of the interpreter.
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 11:04pm On Nov 25, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Of course they died the day they ate the fruit as no human ever lived up 1,000 years which is a day in God's own eyes! 2Peter 3:8



Evidence you never read through the comments you just picked few words and started making your own comments.
The tree of good and bad means setting standards for others (their yet unborn children/generation) of course they know what is good and bad literally speaking nah!🙂




Satan is a spirit not human so no gate can keep him out of the garden nah!🙂




Do you know that snakes according to their DNA had limbs but till today scientists can't explain why this limbs refused to grow out from their bodies.

I think that is enough to make us think deeply about what the Bible says!🙂... Anyways, he still went to have meetings with God about job... Are you sure God and Satan didnt have a bet on your biblical ancestors?
"I am in shock that you know snakes don't eat sand?"


So, God kept Satan out of heaven to come to earth to get all the allowances he might desire? undecided

And it was called the tree of the fruit of knowledge...



So, in the creation story, when God made on the first day is actually refering to what he made in 1000 years, so day and night are like 2000 years? undecided


Peter don enter God eyes to know that God doesn't see night only day... The sun shines for a 1000 years apparently
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 8:24pm On Nov 25, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The words of Satan is recorded in the Bible:

At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die. For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad." Genesis 3:4-5

This is where the investigation begins if you want to understand what has been happening around you.

God told the first human couple never to think of setting up standards for others as in their yet unborn children rather they are to rely on what God set as standard for right and wrong. This is the meaning of the tree of good and evil.

Satan told Eve (the first woman) that God lied regarding their return to non-existent and that if they should decide to live by their own standards they will surely succeed and not only that this couple will become God for all their yet unborn children.

From that very moment till today 99.99% of humans believe in setting their own standards and forcing it on their fellow humans that is what led mankind to start having human governments (rulers) something that's against God.

So if you don't understand something try to ask others around you at least there is no crime in calling out for understanding! Proverbs 2:3 compare to Matthew 7:7

May you have peace!
I have peace, you don't gotta wish it...


God said they would die after eating it, well they didn't die.

If they don't know good and bad, how then can they differentiate between the two?

But, here is the baffling thing, God made a garden, and didn't put a gate to keep the devil out... He instead made a gate to keep Adam and Eve out, lest they eat of the tree of Life...

He punished Adam, Eve and serpent... Funny, how serpents don't eat sand but rats, rodents and the likes...

They they believe fables as reality, look woman get 1 rib...

grin
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 6:39pm On Nov 25, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
God has told us in the Bible these things will happen and there are reasons why He must permit it.
He said Satan (a rebellious angel) is behind this acts but we need to use discernment for us to know how Satan is using his tactics.
I wonder what Satan says... If God permits it, then you could say God is using Satan and by extension that is God behind "these acts."
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 6:37pm On Nov 25, 2025
[quote author=Truthseeker10 post=137590294][/quote]Life has no purpose except the one you give to it. I used culture to define it, as it is defined as a way of life.

Are you saying that those who didn't know about God, don't have a concept of wrong and right?
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 10:11pm On Nov 24, 2025
[quote author=Truthseeker10 post=137589139][/quote]1. When a person dies, their body stops: no movement, no speech, no breathing. Burial or cremation follows.

According to your belief, what happens then?


2. Claiming to know how life began is as absurd as me telling you what happened when you were born.

If you weren’t conscious to verify it, are you just going to accept my story when many contradict it?


3. Culture is a way of life, shaped by the meanings people attach to it. Some are buried simply, others with cows and parties. These reflect the values societies give to life.


4. Divisions arise from differences, culture, gender, perception, language, belief. To overcome them, see yourself as human, beyond labels.

Unity comes when you look past religion, caste, class, or family. Even being a believer separates you from nonbelievers.


5. You may use the Bible as a moral standard, but you act rightly because you know what’s wrong, not because a verse says so. This book has been used to enslave, murder, and oppress millions.

Moral consciousness exists outside it. If the Bible were your only guide, what would stop you from stoning a child, killing, or enslaving a person, afterall, it says, "Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything..."?

Are atheist countries worse off for lacking it?


6. Look at what you worship: tribalistic. He divided humanity, confused tongues, and set tribes against each other. The 144,000 of the New Jerusalem, twelve thousand from each Israelite tribe, exclude Gentiles. Division is built in.


P.S.

You’ve been conditioned to repeat stories, twisting evidence to fit them. That’s not thought, it’s training. And when scripture says “my people perish for lack of knowledge,” it’s backwards: people began to perish because they gained knowledge after eating the fruit...

So, I should not tell you that the biblical deity demands that you don't engage reasons because his foolishness is wiser than man's greatest wisdom. grin
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 8:44pm On Nov 24, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
These is as a result of errors on the part of translators.

Here is the correction:
The anger of Jehovah again blazed against Israel when one incited David against them, saying: “Go, take a count of Israel and Judah.” 2Samuel 24:1
So God was angry because David failed to distinguish between inspired expressions from Satan and that of God according to God's promise to Abraham no human will be able to count the children of Abraham! Genesis 13:16

The 1Chronicles shows the real person behind the inspired expression. 1John 4:1



Amos is telling the Israelites that when they are attacked by enemies it means God is fulfilling His words regarding what He seriously warned them against! Deuteronomy 28:45-48

The second quotation God is telling Isaiah that whatever weapon enemies want to use against His faithful worshipers He created it and has the power to make it work in a strange way.
Take for instance God created all the gasses that formed heat (fire) but when Nebuchadnezzar decided to use fire against God's faithful servants God redirected the gasses to form air-conditioner while the same fire killed Nebuchadnezzar's strong guards.
Again God created light and darkness but when He wants to prove His power to Egyptians the sky refused to bring it's daylight for three consecutive days.

That's the practical application of what you quoted Sir!😟

It’s baffling that a perfect God would let His “precious word” be mistranslated for centuries, leaving humans to argue over versions while He did nothing. Every new translation, whether the common Bibles or the Jehovah’s Witness version, simply exposes how fallible the process is: people translate, edit, and reshape the text to fit their beliefs. And while all this was happening, real people were slaughtered, even babies, by divine command in those same scriptures. Yet the survivors are still expected to call God good, even though their experience makes Him anything but.
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 8:39pm On Nov 24, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Since the bible does not provide the answers, my questions still stands.

So are you saying that all the perspectives of afterlife from every region of the world is false?

I would like to ask you...
How did life and the universe begin?
What is the purpose of humans on earth and how did we get here?
Why is there so much suffering in the world and what is the solution to all suffering?
What do you think is the standard for good and evil if you believe they exist?
I haven't died to know which is true, and if they are different why should I pick one afterlife belief from many?

I can not tell you how life began, cuz I didn't witness it. And neither can anyone tell you how either.

Why must there be a purpose to why humans are here? For you, the purpose you give to life makes it meaningful, otherwise it is meaningless.

I have told that suffering stems from division, biases and boundaries.

If the standard for good and evil comes from the bible then no culture or civilization should have existed asides from people of the book. Since, the concept of evil and good is only found among the people of the bible... angry
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 9:44am On Nov 22, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Can you please expatiate on the highlighted?😟
Let's have a look at a few

Please say it is my lack of understanding of what is written and then give the right context...



2 Samuel 24:1

“Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, ‘Go, take a census of Israel and Judah.’”

1 Chronicles 21:1

“Now Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.”

Amos 3:6

“Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?”

Isaiah 45:7

“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 9:37am On Nov 22, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Because your school teacher introduced maths to you doesn't mean he is the originator of mathematics, because the English man brought Bible to you doesn't mean he is the author.

There is 100% evidence that Satan exists and that he is controlling mankind just as the book Bible says. 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

All you need to do is ask for proof!🙂
Without Satan, God ceases to exist.

And God has not proven that he is not Satan either, since he embodies the characteristics of Satan....

Even the book of Chronicles and Samuel... Told the same story, using God in one and then, Satan in the other. grin as the being that pushed David to carry out the census
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 9:33am On Nov 22, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So are you saying that all the perspectives of afterlife from every region of the world is false?

I would like to ask you...
How did life and the universe begin?
What is the purpose of humans on earth and how did we get here?
Why is there so much suffering in the world and what is the solution to all suffering?
What do you think is the standard for good and evil if you believe they exist?
I have once been asked this question and this was my reply...I suppose you are JW

Many people turn to sacred texts,chief among them, the Bible, in search of clarity on life’s most enduring questions: Where do we come from? Why are we here? Why is there suffering? If we all seek peace, why is there war?

These texts are often treated as divine instruction manuals, handed down to light the way through human confusion. But when we pause, not out of fear or inherited belief, but from a place of curiosity and courage, we begin to notice something: the answers may not be as absolute as we've been told.

Let’s begin with origins. The Bible offers a creation story, but it is far from the only one. The Yoruba tell of Oranmiyan forming the earth with a five-legged fowl and a shell of sand. In Chinese cosmology, a cosmic egg splits open, birthing yin and yang from which all things emerge. Among the Fulani, divine milk pours from the heavens.

None of these accounts can be proven, but that’s not their point. These stories are cultural expressions of wonder in the face of the unknown. No human witnessed the beginning. So, we make meaning through myth. These tales, passed down through generations, are reflections of the questions people dared to ask, not blueprints of universal truth, but mirrors of cultural imagination.

Why then is the biblical story elevated as the truth?

Largely because it was carried by empires. In Africa, Christianity didn’t take root through some grand spiritual revelation; it came wrapped in colonial conquest. With the missionaries came the sword, and the Bible.

Even the language we now use to describe the divine reveals this history. In the original Hebrew, the name revealed to Moses was YHWH, so sacred it was rarely spoken aloud, often replaced with titles like Adonai (Lord) or HaShem (The Name). Today, we say “God”, a term not native to Hebrew, but from the old Germanic word, "Gudan," meaning “that which is invoked.”

This is not just a translation. It's a transformation. To rename the sacred is to reshape it. It’s a shift not only in language, but in power. Names carry identity, and to change a name is to assert control over how something is seen, spoken of, and understood. You could say even God’s name was colonised. And isn’t that the essence of colonisation, the power to rename, redefine, and rewrite, even the divine?

This isn't an attack on faith, but a call to examine the forces that shape it. Belief is never formed in a vacuum. It’s shaped by culture, politics, and power.

Now to the question of purpose: Why are we here?

Many assume the Bible holds this answer. But much of it is a record of ancient people grappling with their own questions, Abraham, Moses, David. These were not universal declarations addressed to all humanity. They were moments in a larger, evolving dialogue. To rely solely on a 2,000-year-old manuscript to define our personal destiny is to ignore the voices of billions who have sought, and found, meaning in other ways.

If purpose is truly divine, wouldn’t it speak to each of us directly, rather than solely through ancient intermediaries?

Consider also the problem of suffering. When innocent people suffer, the explanation is often “the devil.” But even that raises questions: if God created all things, did He not create, or at least allow, the devil? Isaiah 45:7 says, “I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil; I the Lord do all these things.” That verse alone challenges the neat division between good and evil often presented in Sunday school.

The Eden story further complicates things. Two humans, innocent and unaware of good or evil, are placed in a garden with a forbidden tree. They’re told not to eat from it, but not given the moral understanding to truly grasp the command. When they do, they are punished, and all of humanity is said to have inherited their guilt, except Enoch and Elijah who are not of his seed.🙃 But then we’re also told humans were made perfect in God’s image. Which is it?


Even more troubling are the stories where God commands the killing of entire nations, including infants. What do such acts say about suffering, innocence, justice, or divine love?

And when we ask why humans war even though they seek peace, the answer often lies in identity. People fight to protect or impose their sense of who they are, tribes, nations, beliefs. Ironically, the Bible itself tells of a time when humanity spoke one language and worked together. But it was God who, fearing their unity, scattered them, confused their speech, and planted the seeds of division. From that division came borders, religions, and conflict.

So we must ask: does the Bible really offer peace, or the beginnings of fragmentation? Does it answer our questions, or deepen our confusion?

There is great power in questioning. Sacredness is not diminished by scrutiny; it is revealed through it. Faith born from fear may feel comforting, but it is not freedom. True understanding begins when we stop clinging to inherited answers and start daring to ask better questions.

Because if this text cannot withstand my honest doubt... would I be right to say that it is divine in the first place?
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 8:14am On Nov 22, 2025
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MaxInDHouse:
You need to know the tricks Satan uses to catch people...

God is the Creator of all the herbs...

These atheists don't believe in the Bible..


So it's either you choose God's word or the atheists claiming scientists...
The Hindus, Koreans and Africans have different perspectives on afterlife, that you claim the one from Europe tells the truth.

Satan only exists within the same stories of God, so without reading the bible you wouldn't know Satan and without evidence you are forced to believe.

God didn't come up with anything. It is the trial and error of man, that lead man to utilizing herbs for illnesses... Moreso, the book claims the devil is the one causing illnesses... God preferred man to be a dummy eating rotten fruits and decaying meat, because he wouldn't have knowledge of good and evil.

On going back, will they be serving chicken and fried rice in heaven? If they would, is the chicken resurrected too?

God's word if one were not indoctrinated, one would never choose it nor call it the word of God... It must interest you to know that many of those who are atheists became atheist because they didn't just read the bible, they studied and know it, where Christians believe it, even when it is obviously faulty...
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 8:00am On Nov 22, 2025
BODMIC:
Genesis 3:19

" In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return"

Surah Taha 20:55

“From it (the earth) We created you, and into it We will return you, and from it We will bring you forth once again."
Summarily, humans were created from dust,
after death, they return to dust, on the Day of Resurrection, they will be raised again from the dust.
There is a reason why they used bread... If Africans weren't eating bread, then the message and book ain't for Africans.

What does your own culture say? Did they say anything about Abula or Gbegiri?
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 6:00am On Nov 22, 2025
DiarisGodoo:
Except that REALITY proves you wrong. There are countless cases of children who clearly remembered their previous lives!

Reality?
People claim past lives or near-death visions of heaven, hell, or Jannah, but I don't have such memory or identity, can I claim be a returning consciousness? If I returned as a grandson would my father recognise me as his grandfather? Am I still the same grandfather, even when I am from the loins of my father? And even if I were, where did I go to? The answer still screams, belief!!! Yet, what is that you?
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 5:47am On Nov 22, 2025
kgr8mike:
They simply go back to there maker and give account of the time that was allocated to them to live here and they will be rewarded accordingly.
It’s funny, they will “go back to their Maker”, when the so-called Maker has never personally appeared to them to say, “I am the one who made you.” It becomes even more interesting when you remember that countless people lived and died long before Arabs and Europeans ever arrived with the unHoly Books and "their maker" was forced on them.

So the question stands: Which maker would those people return to?
Would it be the Middle-Eastern deity they never knew? Or Chukwu, or any of the deities their cultures recognised?
Christianity EtcRe: When People Die. Where Do They Go. I Want To Know. by Roycemadeit(m): 5:36am On Nov 22, 2025
It’s not a strange question, but it’s one our minds have been conditioned to ask, assuming that when a person dies, there must be some other place they go. Yet the obvious answer is right before us. When someone dies, they are placed in a coffin and buried, or they are cremated and their ashes scattered or stored.

If the question is pointing to something other than you, something that is “you but not you”, then we are stepping into realms beyond what our senses can confirm. And the moment you enter that space, you’re no longer talking about observable reality but about belief. For you to imagine a destination that your eyes cannot see, you must first accept the premise of belief.

So this question itself springs from belief. Any answer given to you about where a person “goes”, beyond burial or cremation, will be based on belief, not empirical fact. And belief, by nature, is an assumed knowing.

What we know is simple: when a person dies, they go into the ground, or their ashes are kept or scattered.
RomanceRe: Ladies, How Do You Feel When Your Man Kneels Down To Apologize To You??! by Roycemadeit(m): 6:08pm On Oct 23, 2025
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I do not apologise, not out of pride, but from understanding. Life has taught me to speak only when I mean it and act only when I must.
CelebritiesRe: MC Mbakara: Why My Daughter Has Been Asleep For Nine Years by Roycemadeit(m): 5:33pm On Oct 23, 2025
ParadiseDark:
I don’t know if it’s a mental problem or just something we’ve normalised, but I find it strange how, whenever people face challenges, the first thing you hear is “God will do this...

Pray without ceasing, makes a whole sense!

So when you say “God will,” are you not just lying to yourself?
Exactly. Same thing I found strange with that “Dress Like a Miracle” challenge I saw on X. How does someone work hard; plant, weed, water, nurture; and when the crop grows, they call it a miracle? I thought miracles were things that happened without effort. So where’s God in that?

And when something terrible happens, people say it’s the devil. But where was God when the devil was doing it?

"If I had a health challenge with no cure, I’d rather choose euthanasia than live in endless pain."

Why create a child just to suffer them?

If you really think as a Christian, you’d realise it’s a contradiction to have children when you believe most will end up in hell.
Music BusinessRe: Where Can I Find A Good Music Producer That Charges Below 30k For Production? by Roycemadeit(m): 7:16pm On Oct 19, 2025
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RomanceRe: Why Do We Only Rest In Peace??? by Roycemadeit(m): 9:43pm On Aug 23, 2025
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Why do we only Rest in peace?
Why don't we live in peace?😗 cry
The phrase “rest in peace” reflects a belief that true peace cannot be found in this world. This idea is deeply tied to Abrahamic traditions, which often describe the earth as a place of struggle and unrest, while presenting heaven as the final dwelling of peace after death.

Yet there is an irony in this promise. If one reaches heaven but their loved ones do not, how can peace truly be complete? And if one fails to reach heaven and is condemned to hell, peace is absent altogether. In either case, the notion of peace after death becomes uncertain.

What is overlooked is the present moment. While people are taught to long for peace beyond the grave, they neglect the peace that can be cultivated here and now. Beliefs, once deeply planted, shape how we live, but they can also confine us. The real work is not waiting for peace in death, but creating it in life.
FamilyRe: Why Do Many People Talk Bad About Marriage? by Roycemadeit(m): 9:25pm On Aug 23, 2025
lexy2014:
how does community and society raise children?

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A parent can only do their best, but no child remains under a parent’s watch from morning till night. Inevitably, children are shaped by the world around them. These influences come from the larger body of society. Society is not only what is shown on television, though television itself is part of it—it is everything children see, hear, and interact with beyond the home.

No matter how carefully a parent raises a child, they cannot be present every hour of the day. The classroom is society. The church is society. The neighbourhood, friends, cousins, and even the streets—all are parts of society. By the end of the day, what a child learns from a parent may be far less than what they gather from these wider encounters.

This is why it is said that a community raises a child. Human beings are social by nature, and no child can grow in isolation. Parenting begins at home, but society continues the work.
FamilyRe: Why Do Many People Talk Bad About Marriage? by Roycemadeit(m): 7:37pm On Aug 13, 2025
People have been made to believe marriage is some divine decree, written in the stars or sealed by the heavens. It is not. Marriage is simply people deciding to live together under a shared agreement. That’s all. No cosmic stamp. No eternal law. Just an arrangement that humans created.

But over time, it was dressed in rules, rituals, and pressures—until refusing to marry became a mark of shame. Many now enter marriage without knowing themselves, without even asking whether they can coexist with anyone long-term. And yet, we keep pretending it’s the natural order of things.

[color=#9900ab]Marriage may help build pockets of society, but it does not, on its own, raise children. A community raises children. A society raises children. Marriage has merely been inflated into a badge of responsibility, so that avoiding it makes you “irresponsible.” That is a lie we have swallowed for generations.[/color]

[color=#6B3000]You must ask yourself—do I actually want to marry, or am I just ticking a box the culture handed me? Age, money, tradition—none of these are reasons. Marriage is not compulsory. It is not sacred. It is not divine. It is human—fragile, flawed, and entirely optional.[/color]
RomanceRe: Sucide Is Not A Sin: My Experience by Roycemadeit(m): 7:41am On Aug 01, 2025
I’ve read your reflections on suicide, and I offer this—not as debate, but as quiet philosophy.

Let’s begin with “sin.” Sin is not something you’re born knowing. It is taught, handed down, dressed in culture and fear. A child does not instinctively know sin; they know consequence, empathy, and pain. What we call “sin” is often just cultural disapproval wrapped in sacred cloth—used to shame you for being human.

Now consider suicide.

Why is it labelled a sin to want peace when life becomes unbearable? Why is choosing to end suffering seen as rebellion against the divine, while enduring endless pain is called faith?

Let’s take euthanasia. A person writhing in agony, with no cure in sight, asks to be released—and we call it wrong. Even when they beg, lucid and clear-minded, we refuse in the name of morality. But what is more moral: to honour their request for peace, or to chain them to pain so we can feel righteous?

Religion often answers this with hope—hope that the pain will pass, that God will come through. And hope is beautiful. But hope without change is theatre. It becomes a way to keep people quiet rather than whole.

They say, “God will not give you more than you can bear.” But how can anyone know what you can bear except you? Only by surviving do we say we endured. But not everyone survives. And that’s not weakness. That’s reality.

You didn’t ask to be born. And if life becomes too much, choosing to leave it isn't sin—it’s autonomy. A deeply human choice in a world that often forgets your humanity.

And perhaps that, in itself, is enough.
CrimeRe: Girlfriend Stabs Man To Death In Ondo Over Infidelity by Roycemadeit(m):
One of the most ridiculous ideas is the belief that human beings can be possessed like property—stripped of agency, choice, or emotion.

When two people agree to be in a relationship, the first question should be:
Are you being real? But even then, you can only speak for yourself.

The other person must also feel real in their own way, with the freedom to choose and change. Many were raised to think dating is a form of soft marriage, but that’s a misunderstanding.



Dating is simply a space to discover whether both of you can walk life’s path together. It’s a test of alignment, not a vow of ownership.
RomanceRe: What To Do If You Catch Your Wife With A Man In Your Matrimonial Bed by Roycemadeit(m): 7:23pm On Jul 27, 2025

What Would I Do If I Caught My Wife in Bed With Another Man? undecided


These days, we’ve heard it over and over — people sharing how they caught their partner, even on the matrimonial bed, with someone else. And almost every time, the relationship breaks.

So if you ask me, “What would you do if you caught your wife in bed with another man?” — here’s my answer.

First, let me make one thing clear: I’m not insecure. I don’t measure myself by other people’s standards. I don’t project insecurities that I don’t have. I’m a secure person. So my response isn't coming from fear, jealousy, or wounded pride — it's coming from principle and self-respect.


Now, for most people, catching a partner cheating stings deeply. Not just because of the act, but because of what it represents — that you weren’t chosen, that you weren’t enough. And then the mind begins to wander: Is the other person richer, better-looking, more confident, or more “satisfying”? But honestly, those details don’t even matter.

Because for me, it’s about trust.

If I were to walk in and find my wife with someone else, I don’t think I’d argue or shout. I wouldn’t even ask for explanations. I’d just walk away. Because once trust is broken like that — not just in secrecy but in intimacy — the bond is already gone.


Look, nobody’s perfect. No one can meet every single need of another person. We're human, we evolve, we get tired, and sometimes our desires shift. That’s understandable. But that’s why we talk. That’s why communication exists. If something isn’t working, speak up. That’s what builds trust.

But if you can’t talk to me — your partner — and instead you sleep with someone else behind my back, then that tells me all I need to know. You don’t value the relationship enough to protect its core: honesty.

So no, I wouldn’t want to know why. I wouldn’t care if it was “my fault.” Because if something was wrong, you had the option to be open — and you chose betrayal instead. And for me, that’s where it ends.

Where trust dies, love cannot survive. And no matter how secure I am — and believe me, I am — I will never stay in a space where deception is normalised, and dignity is compromised.

So, yes. If I caught my wife in bed with another man, that would be the end. Not because I feel inferior — but because I know my worth.

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