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troy20:
just quit it buddy.you know her so well apparently she knows you so too well as well.there is something in your personality that doesn't fit her ideal man for a more committed relationship.she is not in love with you.if she is offering you a parting gift such as sex then it describes a lot about the kind of person she knows.that offer is kinda demeaning you know.

Kinda agree with you. Something not right with that offer... that "parting gift" appears more like the trojan horse to me. Take it and you will be in way deeper than before, more emotionally entangled. Literally a pun on her chess-board. Then again, it could also work the other way. Personally, I wouldn't take it though!

afrodoc2:
How many league titles did this manager win with Dundee United?
And please WHEN DID DUNDEE UNITED WIN THE EUROPEAN CUP?

My mistake. Played in the final I should have said.

afrodoc2:
In the 7 yrs during which Ferguson coached Aberdeen before coming to Man Utd he won the Scottish League 3 times and the Scottish FA Cup 4 times , breaking the Celtic/Rangers hegemony of almost 100years.
He also won the Cup Winners Cup with Aberdeen beating Bayern Munich and Real Madrid on the way, before winning the European Super Cup.
ALL THESE HE HAD ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED BEFORE EVER COACHING UNITED.
That was why he was given the time he was given, he had proven time and time again that he was a winner.

Please do not compare SAF to Moyes again. They are both from Glasgow, the similarity stops there

Do you know there was a manager in that same Scotland that won the SPL and European cup with DUNDEE UNITED beating all the same teams you've quoted there? Na SAF select David Moyes by himself and nobody force am to, so no dey shout ontop my head abeg!

afrodoc2:
It is this kind of proud and smug mentality that got the once almighty Liverpool into the bottomless pit they are in now.
Thinking the way you have done it in the past is the superior way and the only way while the world is changing before your eyes.
United have always been a club that combined groomed youth players with expensive buys ; Denis law, Bryan Robson, andy Cole, seba veron and rio Ferdinand were all British transfer records.....and many others did not come cheap.
United's image which attracted so many people over the years was of success on the field achieved via high octane football.
Moyes had no history of success or playing that brand of football, he had 1 year to prove the doubters wrong.... And he failed woefully.
In any profession in life if you do not have the CV or records to back yourself up you better make sure you don't phuck up when you get to a new job. The case of Moyes is a life lesson for everybody.

There is nothing "proud and smug" about building a brand based on an identity and trying to maintain it. Brands that have become institutions may go under radar but never out of business - Coca-cola, Microsoft, Real Madrid are just some examples.

With the bolded there, you may be referring to majority of the "post-1999" era UTD supporters.

What got Liverpool into a hole is far from what we are talking about now. The circumstances are far different - Liverpool never quite got the chance to leverage their iconic on-field status financially because the money hadn't really started flowing back then. Coupled with the fact that English sides were banned from European competitions at a time which coincided with the peak of Liverpool's dominance, they really were not making that much money.

You easily reeled out names several high profile players that UTD has signed over the years but how quickly does this come to a lot of people. Riddle me this, when you are at a viewing center, beer parlor or newspaper stand arguing or listening to an argument about UTD in reference to other clubs, do you ever hear UTD accused of "buying the league"!!? But the same line of attack is constantly being used against Chelsea, Man City etc. Psychology Baba...this is the myth that has been woven around UTD intentionally or otherwise!

Moyes may not have had a trophy-laden resume but was at least known for running a club on a shoe-string budget and was going to build a team on solid British base as did SAF if given time. I can categorically tell you that Fergie himself was a gamble by UTD because, at the time he was signed, he wasn't the most highest profile Scottish or British manager on the scene and yes, he also almost got fired too.

afrodoc2:
Your love for Moyes is baffling.
There is nothing Moyes did before , during or since his United tenure to show that he was the right choice for such a top club.
Ferguson had a winning reputation before coming to United, THAT was why he was given so much time.
LVG also had such a reputation and was given some time until he proved he was not the right man. Jose with his record of winning titles too would get more time than Moyes. That is the way life works.
In my line of work if a patient is in distress and a doctor who has never successfully intubated anyone before (Moyes) tries to intubate this patient, he would be given just 1 shot at it. If he fails he would be pushed aside. On the other hand if an experienced doctor who has successfully done it before (Fergie,LVG,Mourinho) tries and fails he would be given a 2nd or even 3rd chance to do it.........because he has the record to back himself up.
No name managers like Moyes have only one shot to shine at a big job

This is where you and many others do not get it... It is a not a love for Moyes per se or any one manager for that matter. Ask yourself, really think beyond the surface, why SAF opted for Moyes at the time when with his and United's influence, he could easily get a much higher profile manager?
The way I see it was all about keeping that "image" which attracted so many people (myself included) to the club. That "illusion" that UTD is a "common" club quite far removed from the opulence of a Milan, Madrid Munich or Barcelona. An institution that believed in "grafting" out success, not buying it. Do you think it is a coincidence that all through the history of United, there is rarely focus on the big-money, star signings the club makes? Granted, they are not as many as some other clubs but if you look closely, the perception of Man Utd is one of a club that makes stars not buy 'em. Which is not entirely true. The Moyes signing was keeping to that tradition and hedging the bets that in 2-3 seasons, the returns in silverware will come (notice the sync with SAF's own start). So the club wins in both ways. Baba, everything na psychology!

Elxandre:
Which patience?

Most top clubs woulda fired Moyes or LVG even earlier!

You wan try Madrid, Chelsea, Barca etc?

Go figure. Man Utd never became a TOP club under SAF by mimicking Real Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea or Bayern!

raumdeuter:
Exactly. You dey reason well, As much as people like to make fun of spy360, I like him, he has his own unique opinions and he is willing to defend it

Some people never bring any new perspective to issues, its just to tag along with the popular opinion

Coogar says Rooney is bad, so everytime Rooney is bad, Ibime says Oscar, Mikel is bad so consensus is they are bad, Someone says LvG is bad so the consensus is that he is bad.

Meanwhile... be sure to put it officially on NL records that I still support David Moyes till tomorrow while many others do not

Elxandre:
Moyes that took us to 7th from first?

I even stopped watching football then. Lol

No matter how patient a club is, you'd get fired in that circumstance.

200 million pounds plus later... is UTD any better!? Guess that is the price of a little patience!

SIRcumalot:
Me too,and suspect most of us, but you can tell the guys wey no send Jose among us, diadem073 or na kagawa10 no hide am, I suspect adelana1 sef no send am,ruddie Don migrate fully and Don dey comot the roaches and cobweb for him one man Sevilla thread.
My point is,if Pep joined us instead of city you go hardly hear any guy against the move even if Jose na your guy.
Of cause as Utd fan I want him to fail, nothing personal.

Neither. I will be happiest with keeping in the UTD tradition - and yes, David Moyes!

Elxandre:
You guys don't get it! Is he truly the 'Master' or the 'Fortunate one' we shall see.......

More like certain Man UTD fans are already looking at a "Pep failure" as a basis for giving Mourinho an "initial pass". I don't give two fvcks about Pep. The only reason this pains me is because, as with LVG's start, VERY FEW gave David Moyes this kind of "initial pass". Sacking that man, is the root cause of UTD's woes and will continue for some more seasons still!

elampiro:
I am not sure Di Matteo or those other names could have won it in Porto.

Samson Siasia, given the chance, might deliver a UCL with Barca. Deliver the league with Bayern and PSG.

With some clubs, the job is half done. Having Messi, Neymar and Suarez as your front three is 80% victory guranteed.

Story, story... and Jose Mourinho could not deliver the UCL with the same Chelsea. Abegi!!!

weedtaker:
wetin mourinho do you? are you angry bcuz ur new Vida would be shipped out abi wetin?

I dey balance the argument na...shebi me and u go dey here witness am as e go happen na

PietroRico:
Zidane has won the UCL only 6 months in charge or thereabout..
Make I hear anybody make noise about Enrique again and even Guardiola.

AdeLaNa1:
Lool. No mind those childish Barca fans

Guess this also means Roberto Di Matteo is better than Jose Mourinho too.

People just funny sha... arguably two of the most high profile managers in the world, hired by two clubs in dire need of success - so what is the argument here!?

ramdeuter and nihilist... i hail una for keeping it real jor!

This "Mourinho experiment" will fail, one way or another...

RuuDie:
Keep your eye out for the Sevilla #4, Krychowiak... 2-3 seasons from now, that guy is going to be very, very sought after!

The first game he played for Sevilla was against Real Madrid in the Super-copa straight out of the transfer market from Reims. Barely even trained with the team. That's where airmark pulled off the tackle on CR7 gif. I don't know about comparisons with Busquets, what I do know is someone in Europe will be paying something in the region of $25-35 million for him very soon and whoever that is, they have a darn good deal!

Ok. We lost the CDR... but hey, who cares when Europa can be

chrisley024:
Which one o

Smalling x Wickham. Should have played the advantage!

Chrisley

shey you don see "bad officiating"!?

elampiro:
What na happened eventually, was Sturridge substituted after he scored? I didn't see him again. Even Origi and Benteke never held the ball like players.

What happened is Unai "tha genius" Emery took the shackles off his boys and let them run amok...something LVG seems to not be able to do!

chrisley024:
Poor officiating

Poor officiating is the final of the world cup in South Africa!!!

Klopp dis, Klopp dat. Bla, bla, bla... 'true' genius doesn't need mainstream media to blow its trumpet!

Unai Emery!!

UEFA can keep their UCL spot - we love it here in the Europa

Captain Coke - from full back to winger - that's talent!

SIRcumalot:
see cobwebs everywhere for your thread.

so this na your escape route if we continue with our philosophy policy?

keep space for me Abeg.

Na now u notice? Escape Prison break wen I don do since wen una sack my man David Moyes! SAF wen use all his "wise-ness" go sign am, na craze been dey do am!!?

usbcable:
You don run comeback.

Barca no pay you again?

Why!? Dem still dey pay like maga... dem go soon come for Mariano and Gameiro

raumdeuter:
You better score a 4th goal because Liverpool is famous for comebacks

Not against Sevilla... and especially not in the final when our 5-yr lease is not over!

Game over!!!

Na who born Liverpool or any EPL team in Europa for dat matter where Sevilla dey!

Europa cup is on 5-yr lease to Sevilla. Na beg una go take collect am back

Na who born Liverpool or any EPL team in Europa for dat matter where Sevilla dey!

Europa cup is on 5-yr lease to Sevilla. Na beg una go take collect am back

Instead of UTD to come buy players from Sevilla dem dey form big club for there... just watch how much we go sell Nzonzi - yes, the same one from Stoke!