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Crazy timelines. 33yrs - with average lifespan of 47yrs - most Nigeria will not see the completion of those roads. Kenya the last 7yrs has build nearly 10,000kms of roads. Annually we are adding more than 2,000 Kms of new roads. The old network are well maintained. Most of murram roads all over kenya are also well maintained.

68816419:
One thing this administration is known for is the fact that they hardly abandon any project, Itake- Warri rail line is completed after 33 years, Lagos Ibadan rail was started in 2017 and now completed, Maiduguri road is 92% completed, 300km+ Abuja Kano road project which got started just 2017 is now 33% completed, Abuja-Lokoja road is undergoing road markings, 10 lanes Ph-Enugu road is about 50% completed and many more

Will they get completed in your lifetime - and there will be julius berger towns all over. No Money. No roads. Nigeria is too broke to build infrastructure.

68816419:
Every roads should be dualized and be of good standard, all our highways are been dualized into 4-6 highways.
1- Abuja-Kano road project 375.9km(6 lanes)
2- Kano -Maiduguri road project 236km(4 lanes?

Innosson is not a car manufacturer.

68816419:
80% of Nigeria's steels are sourced locally, if not so, where does cars manufacturing companies (Innosson motors and the rest) gets their metals from?

According to this https://constructionreviewonline.com/features/africas-growing-steel-industry/ -
2015.
Take for instance the case of Nigeria where annual consumption is estimated at 1.5 million tons, this year a new steel rolling mill was established with a capacity to produce 65 percent of this consumption.

But according to World Steel, your steel consumption per capita is 4 times less than kenya.
Kenya imports 1.5m metric tonnes as of 2019 (so definitely 1.6M is old data). Nigeria 5m metric tonnes..
I am still looking for steel production figures for kenya.

sirjerry:
kenya annual steel consumption is just 1.6 million tonnes. Are you sure about that?

Thats less than that of Ghana.

Nigeria is around 7 million tonnes.

Before we get to production. Let talk exports. Kenya exported 150,000 tonnes to regional countries of iron and steel.

Just30:
you make too much noise


where you not talking about steel production?

Now you've jumped to consumption?

Talking of steel - as of 2015 - Nigeria (the paper giant) per capita was 9, TZ 12, Ghana 33, Kenya 37 and South Africa 97.

The mental retardation is rather troubling. We could be engaging a man-child.

popizaino:

Rvp2018 - All Ghanaian cities are shitty looking.

Justidiot - The fact that all Kenya cities are shitty


Classical idiot .

Do you sometimes take time for a little personal introspection? I suggest you do it regularly - and see a shrink if possible. Something clearly wrong somewhere in your mental processing.

Just30:
The fact that all kenya cities are shitty does not mean everyone else is shitty like you.

The best of Nairobi could not even compete with the ordinary of Takoradi, rest your noise.

Talk is cheap - Kenya Government data indicates that currently the annual consumption of steel is above 1.6 million tonnes. Maina said that the iron and steel industry in Kenya forms about 13 percent of the manufacturing sector, which in turn contributes significantly to the gross domestic product.3 May 2019

Just30:
yes you are progress

After Nigeria slapped 49% tariffs on imported steel, Nigerian steel manufacturers have ramped up production in a new sign of relief.


Now steel importers have shifted their import to Ghana in an attempt to kill our 1 million production per annum where.
Ghana is also preparing legislations to levy imports heavily.

Is that Lamu -Isiolo or Isiolo-Moyale. I know Lamu-Ijara-Garissa Road (250km) is under construction. I am not sure if Garissa-Isiolo has started.

Shma2020:
527 km lamu - isiolo road.

I am talking about steel plant that convert iron ores into iron pigs into billets. Not one that imports steel from China or India - and roll them.

IGpro1:
Nigeria isnt what you and others think.
We havs several steel rolling plants/mill in plateau state, kano and several other places.
The sad part is that they don't produce at maximum capacity and are not enough to meet local demand considering the level of industries springing up here that requires them.

Sometimes use at least 5 common senses. Of course unless you're blind.All Ghana cities are shitty looking.

Just30:
I've posted enough Takoradi videos you can refer to them. They make nairobi look more slummish

Data source please.

Shaytun:
Lol.. you know they get excited over little things.

While in reality steel production in Africa is dominated by this countries:

Egypt
South Africa
Algeria
Libya
Nigeria
Zimbabwe

Nigeria use to to be rich during colonial period because of palm oil. One of most profitable British colonies. If they can resuscitate their palm oil industry they will get out poverty.

kikuyu1:
Wacha tu! No need to cause feelings bringing up Ajaokuta.

Steel rolling plants. Or steel plant that produce billets? I doubt any exist in Nigeria. Despite Nigeria iron ore, coal and name any mineral.

IGpro1:
how do you know this, you have never been to ajaokuta steel complex.
Besides Nigeria has many steel making plants. The reason everyone keeps mentioning Ajaokuta is because of the size. It's a city that takes hours to tour and each section of that city is a part of the plant. A lot is still being produced there but not to the capacity it was designed to handle.
There are several steel plants in Nigeria, we just don't make noise about them. It's high time y'all stopped thinking everything must be in the news.

mtisTheQubit:
Me I don't have issue with the vaccine if it works even though the slicing of dna an stuff is alittle bit scary.

My problem is the double standards we practice today..HIV which has really hit africa so hard never got a vaccine..it's like now 30 years...covid got a working vaccine in less than a year...
There is something wrong with the whole thing

more reasons to appreciate people like Bill Gates..modern pharmaceutical industry is profit driven

kikuyu1:
True! Malaysia is struggling to get to first world by 2030 with a per capita GDP of 11,000 USD. They SHOULD get there if pre COVID growth recovers.
Look at Kuala Lumpur today! Whooo!?

A fascinating factoid: their growth is fuelled by oil palm, the first seedlings of which were sourced in 1917 from NAIJ!

They earned 38 bn ringgit,almost 9 bn USD in 2019. Imagine that every decade for the last 50 years!

in Kenya palm oil is 3rd most important import..key ingredient for manufacturing of many household items. Nigeria should seriously work on it.

kikuyu1:
This is loonngggg overdue! Without INDIGENOUS steel MAKING YOU'LL NEVER get anywhere! All your industrialization plans will remain on shelves gathering dust as your dream of car manufacturing/ship building/arms making and aerospace capabilities remain just that.
Eg naval ships need specific 'soft' , high nitrogen steel. You can import but to build a fleet of of 4 frigates displacing a total of 14,000 tonnes you NEED A STEEL MAKING PLANT!
I'd ask about Ajaokuta BUT what's the point?

precisely..ajakouta is rusted to the ground

500M dollars steel plant in Kwale to set up own 55MW plant.

Second-largest in Africa after South Africa’s Iron and Steel Industrial Corporation

This will produce steel billets.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/business-news/article/2001402843/kwales-mega-steel-plant-plans-own-power-station

The Port of Mombasa is gearing to handle up to one million tons per annum of raw material imports for the modern DEVKI Steel smelting plant currently under construction at Samburu, Kwale County, about 54 kilometers from Mombasa.
KPA Board Chairman Gen (Rd) Joseph Kibwana led a delegation of senior managers on a visit to the plant projected to be operational in June this year.
“This is a very serious industry not just in Kenya, but it is the biggest in Africa,” said the Chairman of DEVKI Group of Companies Dr. Narendra Raval “Guru”.
The two held fruitful discussions after a conducted tour of the plant. On his part Gen (Rtd) Kibwana affirmed that the Authority is customer oriented and follows its customers with a view to providing satisfactory services to them.
Bulk iron ore, coal, clinker, gypsum will form part of the imports by the plant. Last year, Devki’s bulk imports recorded 1.36 million tons making it the biggest customer on the conventional cargo side.

You started this comparison = of neighberhood - and I was trying to help here slumdog.

Austine1213:
Go check your dictionary



What you posted are just municipal demarcation

Define neigberhood in South Africa terms.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Johannesburg_region_map_with_names.jpg

Region 1
DiepslootKya Sand
Region 2
MidrandIvory Park
Region 3
BryanstonDouglasdaleFourwaysRandburgSandtonStrijdomparkSunninghillWoodmead
Region 4
EmmarentiaGreensideMelvilleNorthcliffRosebankParktownParktown North,
Region 5
RoodepoortConstantia KloofNorthgate
Region 6
DoornkopSowetoDobsonvilleProtea Glen
Region 7
AlexandraWynbergBruma
Region 8
Inner City
Region 9
Johannesburg SouthCity DeepAerotonSouthgate
Region 10
MeadowlandsDiepkloof
Region 11
Orange FarmEnnerdaleLenasia

Austine1213:
You can visit a dictionary

Define Neighberhood.

Austine1213:
Johannesburg metro has 500 neighborhoods, 6m
Capetown metro has ove 400 neighborhoods, 4m
Pretoria metro has over 400 neighborhoods 4m
Durban metro has over 300 neighborhoods 4m
Port Elizabeth metro 1m
East london metro 1m
Nelspruit 1m
Bloemfontein metro 2m
Polokwane 1m
Ekurhuleni metro 1m


Lol you think I'll argue you got another thing coming sorry to disappoint you

You actually think only interchanges we have are in thika road - I am not sure when they deported you; but Nairobi has been replacing roundabout with interchanges - and wider roads - even eastland now has interchanges.

This one example of interchange in pipeline - that is now complete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9cvOLR00t0

68816419:
U mean the same Thika highway(interchanges) where all the videos of Juja and Thika are been shown as independent towns ?

As you may know Nairobi has many low and middle class highrise than south africa cities - it's more like Cairo.

Within Nairobi border - it's start from Zimmerman - all the way down to Pipeline. The high rises are intermix with middle class estates.

It generally referred to as Nairobi Eastland... 2 out of 3 Nairobi stay here.

Nairobi has sowetto like estate - council houses for poor people like you - built during colonial period - that are now being demolished to built highrises.

Austine1213:
Show me more

Kibera has 5 wards. 3 wards are slums. 2 wards are proper middle class estates. Therefore you can say about 100K live in slums.

Wuoche:
Kibera constituency has a population of 180, 000. Remember upperhill and Nairobi West population is included in that 180,000.

Let me ignore the trash you're posting. Focus on those pictures. You cannot use GDP ppp when threshold is for NOMINAL GDP.

Yes gdp ppp is an attempt to get something equivalent to the dollar - but obviously it has it weakness - and therefore is not accepted.

Nominal gdp is therefore the gold standard here. Obviously there is some use for GDP PPP - for example for internal stuff like tracking poverty etc.

jln115:
You see this is why you really shouldn't speak on things you know nothing about!! You just spewing garbage that you simply suck out your thumb!!

Firstly GDP ppp was formulated as to give a fair and more accurate comparison of GDP.........its never intended for "internal" use or what ever dumb sh1t you are referring to.

Secondly:

https://esaro.unfpa.org/en/publications/republic-south-africa-facts-and-prospects

Where did you get 350B - which is 2019 level - you mean all that contraction and rand depreciation - is nothing to you.

Your economy is expected to contract by jaw dropping 8% - that alone will take out nearly 30-40B out of 2019 figures.

Now add rand depreciation - economic contraction of - 8% + rand depreciation - and you will get South Africa nominal gpd for 2020.

jln115:
I asked how did you come to the figure of 280 billion..... Now quite stalling

Nice - with Ruaka developing into high rises - that area could form a new business district/city.

Shma2020:
No one will understand this video unless you're a kenyan or an outsider with deep understanding of kenya state of dynamic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ych7v3rkVw

This is just another upcoming city at two rivers and nearly all the buldings you'll see on Renders are completed and some under construction .

This year (2020) I have seen 280B estimates. It's about time we get final figures from South African statistic body - they must be crunching the last Q.

I don't calculate - it's only SA stats body that does that - the rest of us can only estimate based on figures we see

jln115:
I'm pretty sure SAs GDP Nominal is still 350 billion bro ..... And the highest its ever been was 416.

Please indulge me how you calculated 280 billion

Look here idio.t. Nobody uses GDP ppp outside their country. It's used for internal purposes. The classification of countries into LDC, LMI, UMI and Developed countries is based on NOMINAL GDP.

To become developed - you need to cross 12,500 usd - at least by world bank - although many consider even higher figures.

South Africa has no hope - given it's gdp per capita - (again keep the PPP for your own internal use) - is 4,500 now - just 500 dollars - before World Bank/Imf/ everyone declares you a LOW MIDDLE INCOME country.

jln115:
please dude no more gdp calculations from you

FYI SAs gdp ppp per capita is 13000

Nairobi replace street sweepers with sweeping machines