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[quote author=mondi_cheeks]w
and u wonder why some of ur women have lost respect for men like you. hahaha, sweetness never in my life has a man called me a s***head, u will never hear an educated men down this side opening his mouth to degrade his own like that. being educated goes beyong acquiring high school qualifications, a real educated man knows the true value of a woman, if he was raised by one he will act like it[/quote]Down what side?

Nigeria?

somalia6: THE SOMALI PEOPLE

So what is their achievement?

somalia6: TOO BAD SHE IS NOT INTO MONKEYS. SHE IS A PURE SOMALI.


DONT CLAIM HER AS BANTU. ITS EMBARESSING.

You mean "embarrassing"?

somalia6: LETS NOT GET AWAY FROM THE POINT.


TELL YOUR HIGH FRIEND OVER THERE THAT SOMALIS ARE NOT BANTU. ITS SO CRINGE WORTHY WHEN THIS NEGROID TRIES TO CLAIM THE SOMALI RACE

What point?

You mean from the point that you are an illiterate?

[quote author=mondi_cheeks]Well I never diss our men. They treat us with respect.they don't call us s***heads. All the women u praise prefer dating with in southern african, they have respect for their own. You are making laughing stocks of urselves. SA take pride in taking care of their woman, angolans are the sweetest things on this planet, so nurturing. Basotho men take pride in the beauty their women possess. Mozambiqucan men are hardworking, they know the role of a man and they don't need to be nagged to know their place as men. Zambia and Zim men take pride in being called the providers, their women take up after them, they are not lazy. Namibia has the most gracefull women, their men love and honour them. Tswana women not only beauty but the are outspoken. Have u heard tswana men praising other women and degrading their own? In return we take good care of our men cos they deserve the respct we give them[/quote]Cut the BS! You are a Nigerian woman.

somalia6: AS EDUCATED AS ANY OTHER MEN IN MOST OF THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES.
BUT THOSE WHO HAVE OPERTUNITY DOGE BULLETS TO GET TO UNIVERSITIES.

As educated as which third world?

You think it is only 3% that go to higher education in the Third world?

You think people in the thrid world cannot spell "opportunity"?

somalia6: BECAUSE THAT MONKEY OVER THERE SAID SOMALIS LOOK BANTU. LMAO

So tell me, are Somali men educated?

somalia6: SOMALIS


1. SOMALI LEADER OF ALSHABAAB

2. SOMALI FINANCE MINISTER

3. SOMALI INFORMATION MINISTER

4. SOMALI MINISTER OF WOMEN DEVELOPMENT AND FAMILY WELFARE

THESE SOMALIS LOOK MORE INDIAN/ARAB THAN BANTU...LMAO


AGAIN THESE ELECTED SOMALIS LOOK NOTHING LIKE BANTUS. STOP SHAMING YOURSELF AND THINKING YOU LOOK LIKE US...SAD MONKIES

Why are you posting the pics of your khat-smoking, hungry, illiterate, ugly men?

Luul: i have decided the losers on this site are not worth my time.
The nigger heres are a testamen to inferiorty complex.


Douces. This is my last comment.

Hope you niggers know how we feel about you.

What is "Douces", illiterate?

50% have NO QUALIFICATIONS whatsoever! Only 3% go to higher education! And this fucktards want to come to cyberspace to claim being educated.

Were you not mutiliated?

shymexx: Why do you like making up stupid lists just to big up Nigerians in the UK? I'm Nigerian and I'm proud of my ancestry/Nationality - however, I detest lies!

Caribbeans, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis are far ahead of Nigerians in the UK...

Most of the black Aristocrats, black MPs, and richest black Britons are of Caribbean ancestry...

There are loads of Pakistanis that work at the top at both the home office and DVLA... And the same can be said about Bangladeshis...

The Chinese don't belong in the top6 tier in the UK...

You are a moooron!

If you actually attended university and picked the Guardian/Target report of the ethnic breakdowns of those that get hired by industrial sector, you will find that Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are NO WHERE NEAR Blacks (Africans) in ALL sectors. And Black (Africans) is dominated by Nigerians. Fool!

They compete with Blacks (Carribeans). Cretin!

Not to mention if you also were intelligent enough to work professionally, you will observe the ethnic profiles of people at the top.

All I can say to the videos shymexx and KingMichael (Royal - you videos are not coming up) have put up that I am watching this morning is "glory".

If I had made enough money to be financially secure for life, I would move to Trinidad just because of the girls.

Beautiful variety and the girls are extremely classy. I have met them in London. Gawd! Classy and beautiful things.

Back to the videos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_AkYdQrEac&feature=fvwrel

shymexx: https://relowed.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/bria-myles-hips-on-deck-magazine.jpg

JESUS!

Father help me.

[quote author=mondi_cheeks]Well now we know those raised by a-sses and those raised by educated women...[/quote]I have very little doubt you are a Naija girl. shymexx is right!

[quote author=mondi_cheeks]im a realist..you can safely rate a woman according to physical appearance but when nigerian men are rated according their bank accounts all hell will break lose. you want to measure other people with certain qualities but you wouldnt want the same to be done to you. explain to me where the intellectual part is[/quote]You sure sound like a Nigerian woman.

You are FREE to rate/bait/chop/winch/moof/cham/gbogosa/pankere whoever you want the way you want. They are free to formulate any perception of you based on your mentality.

FREE! NO ONE CAN FORCE YOU!

Don't then whine when your action is judged based on your behaviour.

chamotex: Damn! You got me
[size=2pt]What's good bro? U still in the ends?[/size]

I still dey o.

[quote author=mondi_cheeks]is the nigerian economical and political structure not run mostly by men? are men not the ones who contributed greatly to what your environment is like now? i dont see why the blame should be put on the women. most nigerian women are loyal to their own men.[/quote]Excuses!

There are societies with similar or worse economic and political environment than Nigeria and they have higher quality women.

[quote author=mondi_cheeks]like you said, you shouldnt "settle for less" so why is it if a nigerian woman expresses herself in the same manner she is called materialistic? does she also not deserve what she wants too?[/quote]If she is expressing herself through her hardwork and paying for herself, no one will call her materialistic.

She deserves what she can fundamentally afford.

[quote author=mondi_cheeks]so we should be thrilled for merely being seen as an object for another man's gratification?[/quote]You don't have to be thrilled. No one can force you to be thrilled if you don't want to.

As long as no one is forcing you to do anything, life is all good.

None of the "women are victims" feminist tosh!

onila: sagamite yr name is here

https://www.nairaland.com/1083728/arrogant-romance-section-nairalanders

I am not arrogant, I am conceited.

onila: yr sisters, nieces, cousins are Nigerian girls

If they behave like ladies, they are ladies.

If they behave like women, they are women.

If they behave like shytheads, they are shytheads.

The fact they are related to me should not change facts.

Objectivity is my religion!

ANNOUNCEMENT:

That is not Chamotex o!

I have seen him in real life several times and he is not as fine as that o.

The nigger went to pick the pix of a supermodel in New York and is claiming that is him. Shior!

[quote author=mondi_cheeks]I am from southern africa and I still don't see the need of insulting ur own people... Women who give birth to nigerian men like u... The women who give u life to pple like you. Imagine if you own mother had to see something like this from you. Even after other southern africa women see something like this, you think they wld genuinely what to be wit some who can't appreciate his own first before he can appreciate any other woman elsewhere? Southern africa woman want a man who can appreciate those round him before he can show appreciation elsewhere, I'm talking about real classy women. If u can say something like that about ur women, next thing when a namibian girl breaks ur heart what will u have to say about namibian women?[/quote]Oh! Good.

I will give you 2 advice I use fervently in life and hope you get it.

1) You can not fully understand a person until you spend a day in his shoes.

2) Never claim to know a place more than its locals.

Let me go further.

- Women who give birth to Nigerian men or gave life is really just emotional tosh to me. It does not stop me from giving an objective view of a nadir I see.

- Secondly, the women who gave birth to my generation are completely different from the women of this generation. We have raised a generation of poor quality women in Nigeria. I blame the environment and the parents of older generation.

- I don't appreciate my own first. My mind is too advanced and I am too intellectualy developed to think at that level. I appreciate things based on appraisal value and quality irrespective of the origins. A shoe made in Italy will always be better in my eyes than the one made in Nigeria because it is of better quality.

- I will judge Namibians on average, not based on one girl. As I said, this mind is heavily intellectually developed and I have unmatched, immortal clairvoyance when it comes to observations. That was used on those Somali moorons when I was telling them about their community before I found the UK Guardian article. I will say it humbly, "I am incredibly observant".

Shollypopz: Don't waste ur time, some ppl are not worth it

mondi_cheeks, this is an example of the typical Naija girl I am telling you to study.

A depraved shrew!

https://www.nairaland.com/969496/men-it-love-acts#11176666

She is setting the ground stone for all her kids ending up only seeing their fathers only at the weekends considering her personality.

onila: then go get those ones now

go get german or swedish visa, yr a rich man

e no go hard

Let them come and get me.

I am the catch now. I have reached an age and developed a profile where I run the game and rules, not them.

[quote author=mondi_cheeks]if you are saying nigerian women are s***heads tell more interesting things about the male internet scammers, the men who use women for rituals, the men who engage in human and drug trafficking. after that kindly define s***heads again.[/quote]What has that got to do with the fact that majority of Nigerian women are rude, classless shrews? Basically a shythead!

What next are you going to say? That what about Nigeria's poor roads, healthcare and schools?

What has that got to do with the stinking personalities of an average Nigerian woman? Please cut the crap!

[quote author=mondi_cheeks]wide hips and boo-bies are not wat makes a woman. how many of you date women for their assets and still complain about how materilistic they are...now thats what i call pure stupidity! you go swim in an ocean with sharks wit an open bloody wound and u expect those sharks to play nice with you.[/quote]You will meet several Southern African woman with better hips and bibbies and yet they are not materialistic. They are dolphins, not sharks. One will enjoy swimming with them because they are normally nice people that will play nice despite being finer.

Please lets not start giving excuses that being fine excuses or entitles the fine Nigerian women to be shytheads.

There is nothing wrong to being fine and having a great personality.

DON'T EVER for one day in your life think a guy like me would compromise and take an ugly girl because she is nice. I will never short-change my life when I deserve what I want!

[quote author=mondi_cheeks]i have respect for some nigerian women, the ones i met on this forum and the ones i met in university. they are well-mannered and they know when not to be taken for granted,they know what they want and they wont settle for less. we might have smashed other people on other threads together but i cant stand it when a man disrespects another woman without looking at his own faults first[/quote]I have also met some very nice and lovely Nigerian women in real life and some even on this forum that I chat with off-NL.

But if we are generalising based on averages, if you are saying Nigerian women are well-mannered, that only suggests to me that your standard for manners is very low.

On average, Nigerian women are poor mannered and utter shytheads. Maybe you are used to the culture and it has become part of the norms for you hence you fail to notice.

I will suggest you conduct an inchoate empirical study of Nigerian women and their manners based on assessment of rudeness and classlessness over the next 2 weeks. Look out fot them at parties, on the train, in the market etc. Then if you are privileged to know women from other societies especially Southern and Eastern African or European girls or Trinidadians/Barbadians/Dominicans (not Jamos or West Africans), study them and then compare. Just compare, don't make bias excuses to justify the obvious stinking behaviours you will see in the average Nigerian women, objectively compare.

When I say Nigerian women, I mean those raised in the UK or who migrated from Nigeria or are in Nigeria. Not the ones raised in other European countries because those ones are brimming with class.

AjanleKoko: @BD and Saga,
It's not out of place, guys, at least not for the average African.
The life of an average Nigerian or African is one of deprivation and perception of lack. The lack is over-emphasized in the society. To the point where most people have little value for life itself, only money and what they think it can bring. A doctor won't even look at you if he won't get paid. A government official would not want to do any work at all unless they get a bribe.

Even a desk clerk for an airline will try to rag you as you're boarding the aircraft. That's a relatively comfortable person.

You are absolutely fcking right!

I guess I can sit my arsse in London and be chatting opaata because I don't see real poverty everyday and there is a safety net if things fail.

ba7man: Oh no, you didn't !!! That was waaaay below the belt!!!

Yeah! They took a blade way below her belt to mutiliate her.

Bloody savages.

somalia6: ^ stop chasing after people who dont want to do anything with you.
Leave us the fukkk alone. We are Somali. You are a slave. Why are you chasing after us like a desperate prostittuute.

Failed people!

www.nairaland.com/1051173/consider-somalis-black/11#12682114

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/feb/21/somali-community-britain-finds-voice

[size=18pt]Somali community in Britain begins to find its voice[/size]

[size=14pt]Britain's Somalis have talks with David Cameron about problems of jobs, poverty, stress and image[/size]

They like to talk in the dimmed light of the Food Palace, a Somali cafe in west London. As daylight recedes, men of a certain age sip coffee, nibble on finger dishes or grapple with big round plates of rice and lamb, all the while bouncing opinions back and forth. Much to talk about this week, as William Hague and the government embark on their grand diplomatic scheme to save Somalia, with an international conference involving heads of state from 55 countries.

All very good, says the cafe talk. About time for the seemingly endless war and the issue of Somalia to be discussed at the highest level. But at the same time, there is another question; what about the fate of Somalis here? A question David Cameron explored with leading figures in the UK Somali communities (even these are uneducated poor mosque rats) at No 10 on Monday.

The strands are interwoven, for sure. No one questions the contention that if things were stable in Somalia, there would not be so many Somalis in the UK. But the domestic issue is also distinct, and many would argue it requires domestic solutions. Somalis have lived here for hundreds of years, a consequence of a shared tradition of seafaring. They adopted port cities. Somali seamen are said to have fought in the battle of Trafalgar. But as a group, they still struggle to find their way. "We get attacked because we are Muslim, and attacked because we are black , but black people won't support us," says Sabra Mohamed, the 21-year-old manager of Nomad, the "UK's No 1" Somali station. "We always have that debate; are Somalians black?" The young live and go to school in mixed communities, but find there is no immediate affiliation, she says. "The indigenous population says we're black. And then the black kids will say 'you're not black – you're Mali'."

Thus isolated, they seek to progress.

Three groups populate Britain's Somali communities. One group, mostly from the-then British colony of Somaliland, put down roots here long ago, in places such as Liverpool, Cardiff, and London's Docklands. Somalis were targeted in race riots in Cardiff in 1919.

Others arrived during the second world war and stayed. A second group fled directly to Britain to escape the civil war, mainly between 1991 and 2001. A third group has arrived via other European countries such as the Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden. Newer communities have settled in towns and cities such as Milton Keynes, Slough, Northampton, Southampton, and in London, notably Ealing, Tower Hamlets and Newham.

Different paths result in different perspectives. Much, not least clanship, sets the different groups apart. What is their number? No one really knows. The census in 1991 counted 43,515 Somalis in the UK, but no one thought that an accurate figure even then. The rise since has been exponential, but there are worries that even the most recent census won't provide an accurate snapshot. Many unsure of their status were reluctant to get involved, and some, traumatised by officialdom back home, fear engagement with government (illiterates).

The Office for National Statistics employed a Somali in the hope of overcoming these obstacles, but no one expects anything but partial success.

"We have a best guess but there are no facts here," says Omer Ahmed, director of the Council of Somali Organisations, sipping cappuccino at the Food Palace. "The best estimate I have seen was the figure recently mentioned in parliament; 350,000 (99% on benefits - scroungers). Many say 1 million. We don't really know about the flow from Sweden, Denmark and Holland in the last five to seven years. And the area that is never really understood is the growth in the Somali population internally. The average family size is quite large. (being fed by tax-payers) If you go back to 2001 and look at the nationality of people looking to become British citizens, 21% were Somali."

Ahmed, a lawyer, says numbers matter. Communities inadequately assessed miss out on social provision, and struggle in terms of education, jobs and housing . A 2009 report by the Department of Communities and Local Government found that "Somali-born migrants have the lowest employment rate of all immigrants in the UK. Levels of education within the community are also low, with 50% having no qualifications and only 3% having higher education qualifications."

In their isolation, Somali communities strive to tackle these issues. They need a voice. They are only just beginning to find it. "People are getting politically active," says Ahmed. "Ahmed Omer was the first Somali mayor, in Tower Hamlets. We have four councillors in London. We are very proud of them. But that number is still shockingly low." It doesn't help, he says, that culturally, many Somalis have a suspicion of hierarchy. "The equality culture says every man is his own president." The CSO, which speaks on behalf of 30 organisations, took four years to establish. And under-represented communities face real problems. The DCLG research spoke of "Somalis becoming caught in a cycle of depression, isolation and poverty" (giro-hungry, failed people). Too many, it said, turn to qat, a natural, plant-based stimulant. (I SAID IT!!! KHAT. ) "Many Somalis are also affected by stress, anxiety and loss of self-esteem due to being relegated from a position before the civil war where many had properties, jobs and were financially well-off, to the lowest strata of society in the UK."

Focus groups voiced worries about young and old. Demotivated elders (failed, hungry Hooyos and Aabos high on khat! ); young people drawn to antisocial behaviour and crime. Ministers worry that the vulnerable are ripe for religious radicalisation and worse.

But that's far from the whole story, says Sabra Mohamed, supervising her radio station's output of news and sport and music and debates, a mix leavened with regular shows on culture and fashion. Anything but politics – too contentious. Young Somalis present most of the programmes and comprise most of the 75,000 listeners. Progress is slow, she says. But it is progress.

"Most Somalis I know are going to university, getting their masters, becoming successful business people. Our parents have pushed us. It has given us a certain drive," she says (Liar! research shows 50% are illiterates and parents are high on khat. A failed community ). They could do even better, she adds, but all the while they are fighting negative perceptions – the Somali as benefit claimant, gang member, terrorist, piracy supporter, low achiever (YES, YES, YES! WORTHLESS PEOPLE! ). That problem is exacerbated by events here and abroad. Stories about piracy and the activities of the militant group al-Shabaab, which has twinned with al-Qaida, take their toll.

The London bombings of 2005 didn't help. Two weeks after the murderous attack on the tube, a second atrocity was averted when devices failed to detonate. The botched attack involved two Somalis. "The bombings caused real panic," said Omer Ahmed. "There was a massive focus on us and people didn't know what to do. What came out was the realisation that we couldn't keep responding to crisis without having the capacity to do so."

A negative perception, he says, begins to fuel a negative self-perception. "There is an urban legend that 40% of the young men at Feltham young offenders institute are Somali. The way people think drives their behaviour." For all that, the fate of young Somalis in the criminal justice system should be a priority for government, he says. "Twenty years ago, the problem was perceived as Jamaican yardies. Now it is those out of control Somalian gangster kids. Over the years, one black monster is replaced by another."

The media plays a part, according to Sabra Mohammed. "One person does something wrong and that becomes our image. I have never seen an article about us that was positive(Because their is nothing positive about Somalia and Somalis in their entire history. That is what I have been banging on about when I told you fucktards to list achievements and you cannot. You are below monkeys in achievements.) . Our listeners hate the Daily Mail.

"It is so one-sided. You feel that all the while you are having to provide extra proof that you are here and educated and don't milk the system (But you DO). You hear all about the ones who go to prison; nothing about those who open businesses and all the internet cafes. It is so frustrating."

If there is external pressure, there is also internal discussion about the way young Somalis mould their identities in modern Britain. "The older generation worry that the culture is being diluted. But just because someone is successful and the director of a company doesn't mean they are not cultural." (Backward-thinking Khat murrafckers don't what to change)

Tradition endures, to good and bad effect – witness the debate about qat, which some want banned. Witness discussions about female ge.n.ital mutilation, which is illegal here. Figures here say it is largely shunned outside Somalia itself. The tradition is largely conservative. Parents whose sons go to prison often disown them. Reputation and pride matters. Recently three Somali girls in Leicester escaped jail after attacking a white English girl in the city. They told the court they were drunk, and that as Somalis unaccustomed to drinking, they deserved leniency.

The court was sympathetic. The community, says Sabra, anything but. "Not only did they embarrass us, they were drinking. They are pariahs more or less. I don't know how they are going to redeem themselves. Many listeners said they should have gone to prison. We are our harshest critics."

So luul are your ge.n.itals not mutiliated?

Here is the hierarchy of the major ethnic groups in the UK in terms of success professionally plus in terms of Wealth:

- Jews
- Whites (includes white SAcans)
- Chinese
- Indians
- Premier Africans (mainly Nigerians and but also Ghanaians and Kenyans)
- Pakistanis (held back by their religion and big families)
- Middle range Africans (SA, Uganda, Zambia etc)
- Bangladeshi (held back by their religion and big families)
- Carribeans
- Rest of Africa (French speaking [like Zaire, Senegal], Sudan etc)
- Ethiopians and Eritreans
- Somalis

Look at how far down your cretinous, skinny arsses are but yet you have the audacity to challenge people above your league in achievements?

BlueDiva: A thousand applause for the highlighted statement.
However, such mentality is driven by poverty. The average Nigerian wants to beat poverty at all cost and a very few want to beat it legitimately.

However, most of these people are inexperienced and will find out soon enough that it takes more than money to have a satisfying career.

Well said!

I have come to this conclusion for years but unfortunately the pathetic mentality of an average Nigerian is to judge success by how much money someone makes.

The one that makes most money is the most successful in the average Nigerian's view.

There are teachers I respect more than investment bankers.

basra: ^ We both now that hiv is not prevalent in Somalia, where adultery is punishable by death, where people are monogamous.
I dont expect a slave like yourself to understand. After all you are a nigger.

Where people are monogamous?

Stop making me laugh!

Where is your Aabo? Does he feed the family?

Are you saying he does not frequently travel "for some reason" to Kenya?

The old man takes all the giro he gets to go to refugee camps in Kenya and take a starving 14 year old wife behind Hooyo's back. Your daft arsse is talking about monogamy?

Does he even test himself for HIV? Does Hooyo test herself or she sees it as haram?

Start talking about your Aabo's paedophilia, not monogamy!

I hope you know the conservative government is setting policies to cut welfare budget. That is misery for your greedy, big, starving family. Maybe that is the source of your frustration that you are trying to let out on NL.

Failed community, failed country, failed people, broken families, worthless men = Somalia!

somalia6: Nigger boy. Stop talking to our women you ugly ape.

person, this is what we do to your women:

https://www.nairaland.com/1059447/undeniable-immortal-beauty-somali/2#12674056

I can't believe bottom of the food chain, illiterate niggas can think they can talk where senior blacks are talking.

Fcking mooron!