₦airaland Forum

franchizy: I wonder why people just comment witout reasoning. Creation of states is a good move because it will give many Nigerians the opportunity to have access to development and growth rather than live in poverty. It will also help to fight insecurity. If you don't know wat to comment, why not shut up your dirty mouths rather than say foolish comment.

I missed this.

Where is this person?

franchizy, please come here. Saga wants to speak to you.

Katsumoto: Nigeria with retrogressive politicians, people, and policies. Instead of returning Nigeria to 1963 regions or present 6 regions, they are balkanizing states further. Any state that can't generate its revenue should be added to a better state.

If only the Ijaw boys can stop the flow of oil or win secession. This nonsense will never stop. Nigerians are getting dafter by the minute.

So you don't think we should create states based on each region that had warriors back in the day?

You don't think we should reward "gallantry" by giving any arbitrary tribe with an instance of war victory a state?

What has revenue got to do with anything, why not lets create states, balloon the civil service and push more public funds into worthless states that produce nothing and civil servants with low productivity?

You are a product of an education that is not Nigerian!

Traitor!

staaari: actually, it is better to be small and efficient rather than big and useless.

Lagos is the most productive state in Nigeria yet it has relatively small landmass!!

You are a person!

Why do you think Lagos is the most productive state?

staaari: @Desola,

you are not helping @Sagamite.

I will not join in your abusive nature. It is only a sign of weakness.

I have spoken, if any group fought for the INVADERS hard, it was Ijebus. That historical fact is clear and I have shown why Abeokua was made capital of Ogun state and also why it was called Ogun State just because Mr Obasanjo is Egba son.

And your fucktardic nature is a sign of what?

Lets say it together: "Product of a failed education system".

Desola: Ekun abijawara fun ra e! O tun ti de, omo ijoba!

Yes o. Emi noni.

staaari: @sagamite,
U need to show maturity instead of being abusive. Provide a more superior facts.

There is not group in present day Nigeria that fought the invading British HARD like the Ijebus. It is well documented.

You are a person!

U need to show sense instead of being moronic.

There is no maturity on my side for people that are purely and utterly moronic.

I have no maturity for a mooron that states the reason to create a state is because some people fought gallantly in 1891.

A fcking cretin! I have no patience for someone at that intellectual level. I just call them what they are.

You are a person! A cretinous product of a failed education system!

It is a crime against humanity you have a right to vote.

[quote author=*Kails*]First and foremost nobody can teach someone how to love themselves. That has to come at their own merit or will. Only experience will prove to be the best catalyst in putting one on that journey to find, love, and cherish themselves to the max.

However most ppl with the healthiest self esteems were raised with both parents in the home (again i said most not all!) who showered them with love and played their respective roles. The fathers being there to guide their daughters on how to recognize a mans real love and affection and being their support or backbone. The mothers there to teach the young girls how to be lady like, wife material, and how to carry themselves.

Parents can only guide them by setting the example. Do that and you have a better chance at raising a true lady.[/quote]Well said, babes.

staaari: Foremost, most comments here are lacking in-depth.

Without Ijebu there would be no Nigeria. Go to your history!

In May 1891 the British Acting Governor, Captain C.M. Denton C.M.G., left Lagos with an escort of Hausa constables (Hausas are from the Islamic north of Nigeria) to visit Jebu Ode to make agreements allowing the free passage of trade goods through Ijebu territory. However the Awujale refused to agree to the British requests and he also rejected the British presents given to him by Denton, doubtless fearing that to accept them would obligate him in some way.

The Jebus were believed to have up to 8,000 men and some old Snider rifles, but the tribe was not rated highly as fighters. This assumption was mistaken. On 19th May the Jebu made a determined stand on the north bank of a ford over the Yemoyi River, five miles south of Jebu Ode.The Ijebu were determined to prevent the British from crossing the ford and as warriors were shot down or ran out of bullets fresh relays of men from the rear replaced them.

If any region in Nigeria deserves a state, it was Ijebu. They fought the British hands down. Lossing about 1000 men to the Maxim Gun. Obasanjo was a cheat, he created Ogun state in 1975 and make Abeokuta capital since he came from there.

It is time to reward the Ijebus for their galantry. Yes, welcome Ijebu State!

You are a person!

Cretinous product of a failed education system!

GboyegaD: If he knew they were not meant to ply on highways, why did he used them on the highways when he was campaigning? Besides, how many jobs has he created before stopping their source of livelihood? These and many more are the questions we should answer and then tell me what you think.

Is there something in the campaign guidance and rule books that state what kinds of roads you can utilise certain vehicle types when campaigning?

Please feel free to direct me to the book and the section of it that creates that edict.

I wait.

quid: "Ijebu" : the name sounds bush.

Can't they find a better name?

binger: Ijebu state?...i don't even like the way it sounds,so primitive!

You are fucktards!

lakeside025: It will be a good development to this country and it will improve development from †ђξ grassroot.. More states, more local governments...pls david mark, remember my tribe in U̶̲̥̅̊я̲̅ states creation agenda kingdom o. IJESHA STATE. One time

Explain how.

Moronic leaders of a Banana republic.

Instead of forging ways ahead, they are coming up with mundane initiatives.

Ijebu state my arsse! Foooooooool!

sucad: ok am not somalian. Am african american.

Okay, you can be Somalian Afghani Chinese for all I care, what is Somalia and Somali's achievements?

somalia6: if they only knew that sagamite is my other troll name

You simply don't have the education to pull off being a Sagamite.

[quote author=info@lpf]Quoting Chanceman:


By your statement, you show a fundamental lack of understanding of basic investment and economic principles!

1. Investing in property, just like investing in the stock market, should be for the long haul, except if you are a day trader. As such, periodic blimps and bumps may affect the overall net worth of your portfolio, but the economy usually recovers, and values return to historic highs. Go into history and track the trends over the last century.

2. Demand alone does not drive the prices of property. Availability of housing and land mass, jobs, geographic proximity to economic capital etc also play a huge role. NYC is a tiny strip of an island with no land growth opportunity thanks to the Hudson and East Rivers, it enjoys a close proximity to the nations capital, is the economic capital of the USA etc, etc. Dallas on the other hand still has new cities and subdivision not yet considered, and other than a surge of banks and tech firms head quartering there to spur growth, not much else to its economy! Quite simply, NYC has limited housing, so prices are high. The demand you speak of is relevant to NYC only because the other factors mentioned above are present, otherwise NYC would be just another dirty, noisy city by the water with abnormally huge rats and roaches as inhabitants. Sort of reminiscent of Lagos and its relevance to Nigeria!

3. The foreclosures in the US market and the steep decline in the housing market stemmed from an abnormally high percentage of "sub-prime" mortgage loans and from bad decisions taken by wall streeters to securitize those sub-prime loans, creating a secondary market in a fundamentally bad derivative investment! When those sub-prime loans started to default, it created a domino effect and everything came crashing down and the Kings went dancing naked on the streets!

4. Housing in all but a few US markets has until recently, seen solid growth over time. Even average markets have seen 4 - 6% growth in the sector. A few markets have seen outstanding 20-25% growth (NYC, Silicon Valley etc). The foreclosures that you refer to, I see as an opportunity to amass a nice portfolio at a reduced price. Consider it a huge sale at your favourite department store! Remember the fundamental rule of investing? Buy low, sell high!

So Chanceman, yes, I stand by my original statement, because the investment in the US properties I referred to, will not only generate immediate income from rent, but will also eventually appreciate, and then I can sell high or pass on to my descendants after a couple of decades. In the meantime, that one house that you would have purchased in Lekki for the same amount would now be mouldy, sinking at the foundation, with cracking walls, all tiles and bathrooms broken, all taps and pipes leaking, roof leaking, with a sewage system that stinks to high heavens, thats assuming that the Atlantic OCean has not come back to reclaim its original position!

BTW Your bottom? Go shake that someplace else! Your arguments, like your bottom, are full of hot air![/quote][quote author=info@lpf]^^ Like I said previously, Chanceman, you clearly do not understand rules of investing, so I am wasting time on you. Have you ever heard of a little thing called Insurance? Yes, that takes care of those fires and earthquakes.

You talk about rate of returns -
1. If the ROI in Nigeria is so high, why is there a glut of badly finished buildings on the market?
2. Since you claim to know so much about ROI - calculate this, and post the results in your reply:

Option A:
Spend N50 million naira ($312,500.00) on 1 badly finished house, live in it with your family, spending upwards of N1M per year fixing plumbing, tiling, foundation and electrical problems, not to mention N1M for generator, diesel, service charges etc etc. No income from the property, except perhaps your rented out boys quarters at N400,000 ($2500) per annum. Your exit strategy may be to sell when value hits $500K, but with the real estate collapse in Nigeria, and flooding and sinking cities, when will that time come?

Option B:
Spend $300,000 buying 8 to 10 houses in some city outside of Nigeria, with solid growth projections, solid industrial economy, good education and a good population (note, this is not about Atlanta?). Derive income of a minimum of $500 per month per unit, for a total of $5000 per month, $60,000 per year (N9,600,000.00). Exit strategy? Buy and hold, deriving income for the next 30 years, use a small portion of income to pay for insurance, taxes, repairs and maintenance, and then pass on portfolio to my descendants.

The cream on the cake: Now, if I so desire, I can take N4M out of the income from my investments, and rent a suitable place in Nigeria, or simply pay for hotels when I am visiting.

Dude, do the math. I think you just got schooled![/quote]You obviously fcking know your shyt about property investment.

Well said!

sucad: uhm, am not even somali.

Yeah, of course you are not.

You are Somalian.

[quote author=*Kails*]sagamite you should do one of those interviews from missy b's thread. [/quote]I can give you a private interview session if you want.

Tolaaaaannni: Oh the Irony in that comment , sorry to break this to you but you are a somali on a Nigerian website. What kind of message do you think that pass?

Stop being too harsh.

You should realise he is uneducated like most Somalis and would not understand the meaning of "irony" without you explicitly explaining it to him.

You are harshly stressing his vocabulary.

kiara11: Now that makes sense.Somali please make your country proud.
He will take you on if you dwell on matters of identities/race and stuff, but take off when challenged on development.
That sick mentality is what keeps them retarded for years.
I will be back to read another achievement ayanle.

Yep!

Don't ever come back hopeful you will see anything.

He has searched and has realised that "Shyt! This Sagamite is right! We are a failure and have zero positive achievements in our history when compared to other black people. We are the only people that lack achievements".

So he would never answer that question and will keep on trying to deviate or distract attention. But he is not a hundredth as intellectually sharp as my small toe, so I will lock him down on that question.

kiara11: roflol. Was wondering how you could be so blind.

I am starting to really like him

Now sucud,luul please don't call me monkey cz you deserve to be loved by humans and animals alike.

It does not matter to me what ID he uses to list his people's achievement and show they are anywhere as intelligent as other black people.

I am very focused on that goal and will not give him the opportunity to use a debate on "identities" to deviate from that line of questioning. Just like I don't let him use a debate on whether Somalis are black to deviate.

I am ruthless when focused.

kiara11: @SUCAD.

Where do u get all these ID'S?

Gender: f
Time registered: October 28, 2012
Time spent online: 3 hours & 31 minutes
Last seen: 11:52am

And yep I am tracking you from Europe to Afmadour.

I know too!

I already checked.

Just playing with the moronic psycho to see if he would even be tempted to use another ID to list his people's achievement.

somalia6: no. your obsessed dude. might i suggest signing up for somalinet.com too feed you appetite

You are a person!

Is Kenya, South Africa and Uganda not feeding your hungry arsses?

What are your achievements then?

What is on Somalinet to feed on?

Can Somalis really talk about food, talkless of feed?

sucad: you need to find better things to do with your time.

You are a person!

So you have nothing to list?

sucad: Why does what a people did in the past matter?

I am not only talking about the past.

If you were an educated person you will realise "existence" refers to the past and the present.

Knowing about what people did in the past and present shows the level of their brain power.

Start listing the "a lot" Somalis have done that you have stored in a secret vault.

Start now.

somalia6: it was male arabs who came from the middle east...not females.

Do you agree?

salbis: . He's an intelligent man and he can't just board a plane without going through the basics. He's a graduate of aviation college Zaria.

What makes him an intelligent man?

How intelligent is he?

salbis: That aircraft is not his person belonging, rather it's a government property. What to investigate then? I thought one of the governors' from southern part just paid 50 million dollars for an aircraft.

And your point is?

Please make sure the point you unveil is intelligent and not moronic, for your own sake.

taharqa: hahaha...1st off, a person who is remotely intelligent does nt assert it, he doesnt need to; bliv me i know. Your above comment defines you, you'hv done d job 4 me....oh by d way, what are doing bout d leadaship questn. U think screaming d Loudest Or stamping yr feet d hardest on an online forum count in d least? Again, what are u doing or what can you do...#Noisemaking COWARDS

You are a person!

Where did you get that "scientic proof"? How did you arrive at that conclusion as "fact"?

Product of a failed education system.

I wait for your proof.

You will see what I can do to cretins like you.

sucad: why are you asking me?

Why did you come on the thread to take a side if you were not willing to defend it?

somalia6: what do you think about a group of people who have been enslaved by whites, arabs, somalis.

I tink they produced Somalis in the tit-for-tat r.a.ping of the medieval wars with Arabs and they are far more intelligent than Somalis because they have achievements and feed Somalis who are a failed people.

Don't you agree?

sucad: somalis have done a lot. best believe that son.

Okay.

List that "a lot" let us hear. The person called Somali6 has not been able to so far.

somalia6: lol...i consider slaves at the bottom of the barrel.

What about hungry people that have failed in their entire existence?

You did not know the thing that separates humans from animals is our brain power?

Somalis are at the bottom of the human food chain hence why they have no food.