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PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 8:21pm On Apr 10, 2011
payless:
Interesting! I am waiting for you. Blue Devils!
Better to be a blue devil than a fake devil. Enough with your stupidity. Don't detract the thread!
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 7:49pm On Apr 10, 2011
Good! This will put you in check from making any frivolous statements.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 7:39pm On Apr 10, 2011
@ Payless, I am trying to stop fake people from making false impressions.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 7:34pm On Apr 10, 2011
@ Payless,
Post your full name and department you graduated from in Duke. I will check to confirm if you are real. If you are actually educated like you claimed, then you should know that most of the products are made in China. When people shop, they buy what they can afford. Try WalMart and see the amount of low quality products. Stop running down Nigeria.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 6:58pm On Apr 10, 2011
@ Payless,

No need joining issues with ignorant person and probably half - educated. You are not stating any facts. The facts remain the same: there are broad range of quality products from the lowest of the low to the best, period! China makes most of those products, and that is a fact.
Posting pictures does not mean anything. People should buy whatever quality products they can afford, home or abroad.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 7:08am On Apr 10, 2011
@ Payless, Your argument is baseless. I was saying that I shop @ home depot regularly and will even be there today. This was to point out that I know a lot about the products they sell in their shops. I was not infering that I will checking MADE IN CHINA when I go there.
You need to understand the postings before replying with ignorant comments. I wonder the side of America you live in (white house?). There are a lot of substandard goods here. Go to WalMart, WinCo, JCPenny, Best Buy, Sears,  etc,  Like I stated before there are BROAD RANGE OF QUALITY from the lowest of the products to the best that dollar can buy. Your statements are pitiful. One does not look down on his home country because he is based in America. I am a proud Nigerian American. But I am Nigerian first. Everyone knows that America is far more developed that Nigeria. That's not the point here, the point I am trying to make is that most of those products can also be found in the top shops in Nigeria (like Mega Plaza in VI and other high end shops). America also have low quality products made for the poor masses. I hope you will use Kohler and American Standard products for your little house in Nigeria! Be real!
Let us not detract from the main topic. But I hate fake people trying to be whiter than white. Nigeria is a developing country and we want the place to be better.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 10:30pm On Apr 09, 2011
Am Alone:
@ Sagewood,
I strongly agree with you!!!
I am very glad I didn't check out
the price of Twyford Envy before
I went to the market to buy them
I bought it for 80k while the price
online was around 120k!
@ Am Alone, Please continue to do the good work in this thread. Much appreciated.

@ Payless, Don't get carried away by Kohler products. I am going to homedepot this afternoon. Check all those products, all MADE IN CHINA.
It depends on the shop u visited in Lagos / Nigeria.

payless:
@AM Alone

You have to be there to see what they sell. The stuff they sell are on differenet level from what I saw in Lagos. There are lots of other stuff that are well less expensive than what you have up there. Checkout both websites to see more of their stuff. In case it asks for zip code, just put 27455. I actually saw a nice set; jaccuzzi with phone shower, standing shower with shower head, toilet bowl, and seat with double washhand basin for my master bedroom for $2,455. They look fantastic!


@Segewood

The stuff I am talking about are brand that come from U.S. The Kohler and American Standard are not made in China. They are made here in the U.S
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 10:12pm On Apr 09, 2011
payless:
I went to do window shopping for Jaccuzzi bath tub, toilet seats, washand basins, sinks, standing shower, and bathroom accessories. I can say for sure that the American brands for all this stuff are more sophisticated than the England and Chinese ones you have in Nigeria, in terms of quality and prices. They are just no match for what they sell in America. Checkout the websites below and confirm this.

Pls visit: www.lowes.com or www.homedepot.com
@ Payless, Those items you listed are all MADE IN CHINA. Just check under and you will find out. Even in homedepot ( I shop there regularly), you will find out that all those items have broad range in quality and prices. All can be found in the top shops in Naija. Quality for quality, most of those items will be cheaper in Naija.
PropertiesRe: Quick Sale- Filling Station 4 Sale In Abuja by Sagewood: 6:05am On Apr 08, 2011
How can u say the pumps are functional when they are removed for whatever reasons? Functional pumps will mean they are in current use and serviced up to date. Anyway, get ur acts together before posting more pics.
PropertiesAluminium Windows by Sagewood(op): 7:34am On Apr 07, 2011
If you have the idea of the real costs of Aluminium windows with these sizes, please post them here. Thanks

Window sizes: 2350 X 1200, 1800 X 1200, 1200 X 1200, 900 X 1200, 800 X 700, 600 X 600.
PropertiesRe: Various Plots For Sale @ Ajah Axis, Lekki by Sagewood: 7:20am On Apr 06, 2011
Post evidence to show the land has C of O or Gov's consent.
PropertiesRe: Plots Of Land For Sale In Ajah by Sagewood: 7:13am On Apr 06, 2011
@Chyke4,

How many plots are available at the moment?
What is the size of each plot?
Post pictures of the land and evidence to show that the land is gazetted by Lagos State Govt.
PropertiesRe: Pictures Of Decent Duplex At Gemade Estate Gowon Estate by Sagewood: 3:54pm On Mar 31, 2011
Send clear pictures, if u are serious!
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 7:00am On Mar 27, 2011
Great threading, keep up the good job guys!
PropertiesRe: Issues Of Land Documentation And Building Plan Approval by Sagewood: 8:24am On Mar 26, 2011
LASYEM:
@All,, its good to be back,, there is an issue that have been bugging people I need to share which I think might be a topic on its own,,, it the multiple taxation on building plan approval and governor concent/ C of O, It have been observed that people pay tax when they want to apply for C of O or concent, they even pay tax for the omo onile they bought from i.e .(if omonile sold 100 plots of land and there is 4 signatory frm the family who sign the deed. That mean the buyer will pay for all the 4 signatory and every other buyer of the remaining 99 plots will do the same.
The second is, after the concent the buyer submit for approval and when the file gets to LIRS ,, an addition tax is being added, The question is the initial payment made during concent for tax which i think is fixed at 60k and during approval the lirs just fixed figure.,egional planning law provisin does not require some application to get to the commissner to grant,, .Are they saying A District officer (DO) of level 14 officer who have spent offer 15 years in service can not grant approval until it goes thru the GM to PS and commissional for permission b4 it goes back to be signed by the DO,,lol,
I need all your contribution and and expirence on the cumbersome approval procedure, LIRS syndrome as it concern Building pan approval and governor concent, Cheers grin

@ LASYEM, Is there a website for the Lagos State Physical Development Authority or other Lagos land related issues? How long does it take to process a C of O / Governor's consent? Do you have current lands for sale in non- govt acquisition areas?
Concerning the issues you raised above, the govt should have a website that details all govt policy as regards land and related issues.
PropertiesRe: Pictures Of Decent Duplex At Gemade Estate Gowon Estate by Sagewood: 6:47am On Mar 25, 2011
You are not doing a good marketing with the quality of pictures of the house.
Use digital camera (not your phone camera) to take clear and quality pictures of the duplex, and I would let you know about my next plan.
PropertiesRe: Buy Affordable Property In Kuje Abuja! by Sagewood: 6:30am On Mar 25, 2011
Is the C of O individual or global? Are the lands free from government development plans/ acquisition?
FamilyRe: She Left Me After My Effort With My Kid by Sagewood: 4:57am On Mar 21, 2011
chaircover:
Ok She just woke up one morning and decided that she no longer wanted to be married. . . . . but somehow I doubt it
@chaircover, she decided she does not want the husband when she met another man helping her out. Here in the USA, it is very common. I understand if you doubt the man's story. The other thing is that people get carried away easily when they come over here.
@ poster,
Sorry that this happened to you. Honestly, I was not surprised to read about it. Love is BLIND, right? The truth is that it happens all the time. I remembered when I was living in one of the European countries few years ago, there were instances of similar abandonment perpetrated by Nigerian women against their husbands. It was the usual story: successful and unsuspecting husbands in Nigeria send their new wives to Europe to have their babies, and the next thing after having the babies, the women will start having affairs and refuse to come back home. You should try and keep the communication open with your wife and hopefully she may allow you to see your son and maintain a close relationship.
The courts favor women here. Those giving "evil" advise should refrain from complicating an already hard and difficult situation.
Stay blessed!
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Pledges To Establish Airports In 36 States by Sagewood: 5:38am On Mar 19, 2011
GEJ, please focus on the basic foundations and necessities of daily living before embarking on BIG white elephant projects. Nigerians need standard infrastructures and capacity building in education, healthcare, security, power & energy, rail/ road networks and communication systems to expand the economy and create good jobs for the people.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 5:37am On Mar 14, 2011
aaidel:
i really must say this thread has been an eye opener im planning to start work on my own house soon
as for the constant bickering and squabbling we all should be more mature and patient in getting points across
as for the ratio controversy i asked a friend who is a civil engineer and into construction works and he said 1:2:4 means i bag of cements is equivalent to four headpans of sand and 8 headpans of gravel but he also pointed out that it is not cut and dry deal and often it is down to experience. so i think that should help for those of us that dont really understand what the big fuss is about
@aaidel,
Thanks for the update. This is exactly what will need in this thread. We need to give objective and measurable data. I am not a construction expert, what exactly is a headpan (Is is a measurable unit or is the pan the construction workers carry on their head to move sand/granite/ gravel etc from one area of the site to another?) The more one is informed and educated on these details, the better one can discuss with the builders and engineers, and able to ask them meaningful questions in order to monitor and compare quality and cost.
PoliticsRe: Boko Haram Group Killed A Muslim Cleric In Northeastern Nigera by Sagewood: 2:51am On Mar 14, 2011
The Federal and Borno State governments have failed the peace loving citizens and residents of that State. What an irony as the motto of the State is "Home of Peace." The govt of GEJ remains spineless and unable to deal with irritants and home grown terrorist groups like the so-called BOKO HARAM. Where are the security forces? Bombings everday and no end in sight.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 10:57pm On Mar 13, 2011
Am Alone:
Assuming kor, Azubike Ni!!
@ spyder you are the illiterate here
the ratio 1 for the cement is half bag of cement foooooooooolz @40
a bag of cement  contains 2 headpan
@ all
Civility and etiquette are very important rules to follow when in a public forum. Other people, including Non- Nigerians from around the world that may have interest in building and buying a home in Nigeria may join nairaland, and may I say they will be disappointed at the level of immaturity being displayed in this thread. No need to be emotional and be carried away just because people are erecting structures. Many of us want to start to build in Nigeria. I like this thread and I would suggest we use objective analysis and if you want to question or query anyone's postings, please do so with objective criticism. Thank you all.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 10:01pm On Mar 13, 2011
spyder880:
Building houses can be much fun, thats why I stay around my site everytime and make sure I count everything my workers and engineers use. Some people like to argue for what is very clear, my mixing ratio is very tight, this is my personal house and I can afford to build two. I have another project, a commercial house am doing at the same time so nobody can complain about funds.
I keep stressing that am building in Enugu, and my costs can never be the same with those building elsewhere. My wide experience is also a factor for my reduced costs. Those who used very bogus sums to do their houses should just look and learn, we dont have to make building a house harder than it is and scare intending house owners. I am here to demystify the building porcess, to make it simple and not throw together a few blocks and claim I have spent N20 million!
Let us please learn new ways of doing things, change is possible. I want to know how much this house costs, because I will do two more later this year. If you dont like what am doing, please say so politely, lets not resort to insults and name calling.
@Spyder, Your posts remain very informative and educative. Keep it up! I am following this thread because I will commence a 6BR Mansion soon. This thread is about 6 BR duplex and the real cost. We should always use measurable data and not trying to compare apples and oranges.
ComputersRe: What Are The Factors Limiting The Growth Of Internet In Nigeria? by Sagewood: 8:13pm On Mar 13, 2011
The government can really speed up and grow internet usage in Nigeria by introducing basic computing and internet applications courses in primary and secondary schools as part of the curriculum. My 7- year daughter uses the computer and internet for basic assignments and entertainment. I believe this is the key. The parents will by default learn how to use the internet as a way to assist their kids in completing their assignments. Govt can provide subsidy The provision of constant power supply is also very important. The government is really myopic in the way they have been dealing with power supply. They have been promising uninterrupted power for the past 10+ years and nothing has improved. How about investing in solar power, especially in rural Nigeria? There should be a National Policy and Laws in place to accelerate the growth of e- based business and banking, e-based courses in the tertiary institutions and building of necessary infrastructures to support the IT systems in the country.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 11:48pm On Mar 12, 2011
@brabus, do you know the recommended ratio of cement to sand/granite/ gravel etc mixing for such important stages such as foundation/ german flooring and decking and stairs for a Six BR Mansion?
If there are any guidelines or recommendations from seasoned builders/ developers and structural engineers, please let us know so that nairalanders will be able to monitor the quality of their projects. Thanks for all your contributions.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 11:04pm On Mar 12, 2011
@Spyder880,
I am planning a Six-Bedroom Mansion with 2 living rooms and a family room (den). Please can you tell me how many rooms you have from your house design, that will be downstairs and how many upstairs? I need it to be able to make some comparative analysis for my soon to commence project.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Sagewood: 6:52pm On Mar 12, 2011
@Spyder880,
Good job! I like the way you are updating the building process without any ambiguity. Thanks for that, looking forward to the next update.
PropertiesRe: How Much Would It Cost To Drill A 100m Borehole In Ajah? by Sagewood: 7:56am On Mar 12, 2011
@dolapobore
U are still wandering in dreamland. We are discussing borehole right? I have a house in Lagos with borehole and I know the cost is less than 10% of your ridiculous estimate. We need real and serious minded people in this site, and not jesters like dolapobore. Get a grip!

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