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Boomark: If they are influenced by their elders, at least they don't have the son of perdition to corrupt that influence.

So does the pope have influence on you?

But do you agree to the fact that your elders influence you? And how can you prove they don't represent this your son of perdition?

tobechi74: Nigerian blessed michael tancy has been pending since over 15years while popo john who died few years ago is already a saint...........


At times i doubt if politics is involved in this





(by d way am a catholic)

St Nuno who was canonized by Pope Benedict xvi died some six hundred years ago. He was beatified by Pope Benedict xv and canonized by Pope Benedict xvi almost 98 years later.

MostHigh: Stop dramatising tins I know you aint no drama queen.

The brother is only trying to stimulate your mind.

what are your chances in the event of a mojor disaster what would be your options without the infrastructure you worship now?

What happens if that infrastructure is suddenly and completely destroyed, how would your address the paradigm shift?

Most of the known world is presently heading for the above explained conditions all operating at varying levels of violence, meanwhile the masses are being desensitised daily to perceive this as an isolated problem to themselves.


Well its not isolated at all you are all a part of humanity so you are involved

The prophets are only here to make you sensitive once again to the realities around you.

Just ask yourself this question are you prepared .

Prepared for what? I don't even know what you are trying to say.

obadiah777: WHAT IT DO MY BRETHREN SAL C. I SEE YOU DO NOT RESPOND TO SOUND DOCTRINE. OK LETS TRY THIS ONE MAYBE YOU WILL BE CONFOUNDED BY THIS HERE SOUND DOCTRINE >>>> JAMES 4 VS 4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

And how does this translate to one not earning a living the proper way while on earth?.

obadiah777: OK SEEING AS THAT VERSE WENT ABOVE YOUR HEAD LETS SEE IF YOU CAN BREAK DOWN THIS SIMPLER VERSE LUKE 9 VS 23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

The answer to this is not far from the one I gave you before.

Denying one's self means not putting your personal issued first before considering God.

Carring one's cross daily and following him means following him even with your multitude of problems.

But Obadiah777 says we should be earthly useless, and keep angling our head at 45 degrees because we want to join the elect.

Hi Lord Obadiah how are you doing?

Boomark: The samaritans fear God but worship idol. For you to truly worship God in spirit and in truth, you must not be led/influenced by the son of perdition and his doctrine.

If you are influenced by your so called son of perdition, that's your own business not mine. I don't know him and I don't have a business with him.

But you seem to know him too well, please is he in brooklyn?

Boomark: The problem is not being in the temple of God. Do you worship/honor the son of perdition, knowing fully well he is not of God? Do you live by what he give? He is not there as a "photo," he influence billions of people who call him father.

No wonder you all are being deceived by oral tradition from him instead of sticking with the scriptures.

Can you tell us that the pope has no influence on you?

Till you prove your elders in Brooklyn have no influence on you.

shdemidemi: you err.. Jesus Christ ministered to the Jews before He was sacrificed-

8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

The risen Christ spoke through Paul, we therefore got a mandate from the apostle-

11 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

So after the sacrificial death of Christ, his own chapter closed and that of Paul opened?.

Btw the bolded got me cracked up.

shdemidemi: you err.. Jesus Christ ministered to the Jews before He was sacrificed-

8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

The risen Christ spoke through Paul, we therefore got a mandate from the apostle-

11 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

My problem with your explanation is that you singled out Paul as the only apostle whose epistle is to be used as the standard. What then happens to the likes of Peter, James, John and other apostles?.

All am saying is that the teachings of Christ himself must prevail.

shdemidemi: Let me help you here, anything contrary or anything that as no precedence from the bible, especially the epistles written to the church by Paul should not be accepted.

Gal 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed

So the epistle of Paul now supersedes the words of Christ.

Now I know u've truly deviated from the teachings of Jesus Christ.

shdemidemi: So you say...the bible says you all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness by following the doctrine of seducing spirits. We both agree the pope is on his own with the satan, right? But the bible says you also might be damned by following those doctrines.

Why do you always read odd meanings into peoples post. Who ever told you that"Pope is on his own with satan"

Boomark: Have you not read tha The isrealites worshiped idol in the temple of God.
heartbreak for those who are rejoicing because they saw catholic church was referred to as the temple of God

SMH for those who are influenced by the one who make himself God in the temple of God.

If God allow people to go into his temple and worship idol that's between them. My concern is that I worship God in his temple.

obadiah777: MATT 10 VS 39 IS TALKING ABOUT MARTYRDOM ? LMAO. YOU NEED TO BE A COMEDIAN BRUV.

AND I THINK YOU GOT ME WRONG. THE ELECT ARE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE GOING TO HEAVEN. THE ELECT ARE THE RULERS OF HEAVEN. BIG DIFFERENCE. I AM NOT SAYING ONLY 144,000 MEN ARE MAKING IT TO HEAVEN.

HAPPY NEW MONTH TO YA TOO CHIEF SAL C

Losing ones life for the sake of christ simply mean believing in God, following christ even if it means dying for his sake. It doesn't mean that a follower of Christ shouldn't earn a living in a proper way while on earth.

Again your will be done on earth as it is in heaven does not mean heaven will be on earth.


For instance if a decree made by obama becomes also effective in Nigeria,does it mean USA is in Nigeria?


How did you get the concept of your own elect?.

MostHigh: Are you implying there are no men in heaven?

What I mean is that the verse he quoted in revelation mentioned men but didn't say they will be on earth.

Are you saying there will be no women among the elect?

Hope you are doing fine?

obadiah777: MATTHEW 10 VS 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it <<< YUP THATS EXACTLY WHAT AM SAYING. HEAVENLY CONNECTED AND EARTH USELESS ( KEEP IN MIND HEAVEN WOULD BE ON EARTH )
AND THERE ARE NO ELECT WOMEN. IN THE KINGDOM THEIR WILL BE ORDER. WOMEN WILL RULE THE CHILDREN AND OTHER WOMEN. THE ELECT ARE ALL MEN ( REVELATION VERSE 7 )

Kai Lord Obadiah777 Matt 10vs39 is clearly talking about martyrdom nah.




Revelation vs 7?
The elect are all men according to your quotation and you still say heaven is on earth?

Happy new month joor.

shdemidemi: Ok sal c, if that is what you want to believe I have said, it is fine.

I didn't just want to believe but I read it up there.

Trust you are doing great sir?.

italo: I already made you prove it on this thread. You called it "the temple of God."

That is how I like to work.

Weldon bro
He has confessed.

shdemidemi: You need to go through our posts, if you can't figure that out through his argument. Tough, I can't spoon feed you on this one.

Spoon feed who?
You are the one who is in need of serious spoon feeding and I can help out.

You brought the idea of proving everything from the scriptures but fell to do so when it was required of you.

You brought the idea of not bowing before images; terming it worship, then a simply question that begs for an honest and simple answer was asked "Joshua bowed before an image; does that translate to worship?"

Where did redefinition of scripture come into play here?

obadiah777: WELL THE ELECT ARE THE ILLUMINATED ONES. IF THAT MEANS THE THIRD EYE, SO BE IT. NOT SURE I HAVE HEARD IT CALLED THIRD EYE IN THE BIBLE. I THINK EGYPTOLOGISTS AND THE CONSCIOUS COMMUNITY USE THAT TERM. BUT THEY ARE DEFINITELY ILLUMINATED.

I DONT THINK YOU REALLY KNOW YOU ARE AN ELECT TILL ALL IS REVEALED. YOU MAY HAVE SUSPICIONS AND INKLINGS THOUGH. LIKE YOU HAVE THIS FEELING THAT YOU ARE DIFFERENT AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, AS AN ELECT YOU GET LOTS OF DREAMS FROM GOD. SO THERE IS A SUSPICION.

THE SEED OF THE UNION ? SEED COMES FROM THE FATHER. THE KID WILL BE OF THE FATHERS LINEAGE. THE SEED WILL BE HEAVEN BOUND, IF THATS WHAT YOU MEAN. AN ELECTS FAMILY WILL ALL BE SAVED THROUGH HIM.

AS SAID EARLIER, NO ONE KNOWS THE ELECT. BUT JUST WATCH HOW PEOPLE LIVE. YOU MAY GET AN INKLING. THE MAN ROLLING AROUND IN A HUMMER DEFINITELY AINT NO ELECT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR SURE LMAO

A CHANNEL JESUS ? WELL JESUS IS THE ARCH-ANGEL OF THE ELECT SO YES.

CAN THEY ASPIRE TO ANY HEIGHT OF CAREER FULFILLMENT AND ACCOMPLISHMENT IN THIS WORLD ? NO. THE ELECT HAVE THE MIND OF CHRIST AND CHRIST SAID EMPHATICALLY I AM NOT OF THIS WORLD. THE ELECT WOULD KNOW THEIR GLORY IS NOT IN A SATANIC WORLD. ITS LIKE TRYING TO GET YOUR SLICE OF HEAVEN IN HELL.

Obadiah is at it again!

Ok in a situation whereby the elect happen to be the woman, what happens to the product of the union?

So an elect cannot cruise hummer?

Will the elect be heavenly conscious and earthly useless?

candiva2013: Guy, you are very funny.

Really funny.

shdemidemi: The Roman Catholic compiled the bible so they can redefine the scripture----italo's conviction

Where did Italo say so

italo: Jehovah's Witnesses! Do you know how many times they have falsely prophesied the second coming of Jesus?

Last time, when the date passed and nobody saw Jesus, they lied that Jesus had already come and gone invisibly.

Jehovah's Witnesses!

Itsfacts: There satanic teaching is getting out of control

You will be right if they are not able to refute your claim.

Though I don't subscribe to most of their teachings.

Itsfacts: I was going through a thread where some jehovah's witness claim Satan is a divine being. I am not surprise because the jehovah's witnesses have always spread lies.
Same people claim Jesus is a FALSE god, same people claim we are same god as Jesus. Why should anyone listen to them? From their bible to what comes out from their mouth are full of lies.
Same people claim that Jesus is not important as our savior.
They claim other prophet are as important as our savior as Jesus.

Question!! Why should anyone want to be a witness with satanic teachings like this?

Hmmm


Sound like your mind's already made up about them.

Going through the link, I realize she's probably a stigmata.

That's a known phenomenon in the Catholic church.

The likes of St Padre Pio and other were equally stigmatized during their lifetime.

Thank you Lord for your love and mercy

Evil Brain: A while ago a 27 year old man was brought into the emergency where I used to work. He had been hit in the thigh by a stray bullet which had torn the main artery there just minutes before.

As they were bringing him in, he was already confused, struggling and fighting. We couldn't do more than slow down the bleeding since that artery was too deep inside his thigh and within 5 minutes, he had a cardiac arrest.

We'd immediately sent for blood as soon as he came and while we were waiting for it to arrive we'd been pumping in blood substitutes (almost worthless in emergencies) and doing CPR. By the time we got the blood, his heart had stopped for almost 30 minutes and we were about to certify the guy dead. But almost like magic, before the 2nd pint of blood had even gotten halfway, his heart picked up and he started shouting and struggling again. Unfortunately the bleeding also restarted and he soon bled out again and had another arrest before we could get more blood (blood is very scarce since Nigerians refuse to donate). He had four cardiac arrests and 8 pints of Blood before we could get him into the operating theatre.

The point of this long story is that even in a young, fit man with no health problems; severe bleeding is fatal. And the only way to treat severe, life threatening blood loss is to stop the bleeding and replace the blood.

If OP has his way, then doctors would have no choice but to sit back and do nothing once a patient loses too much blood or becomes too anaemic for any other reason. OP is also discouraging people from donating blood and indirectly causing more people to die by posting this type of nonsense.

He needs to keep quiet and read a book or something. Ignorance is no excuse.

Your last paragraph might be the reason why he has not posted again.

May God be with him wherever he goes.

OLAADEGBU: No.



Good works does not produce salvation, grace does.



No.

Then you need to modify your earlier responses to me that "good work is a product of salvation"

Even an atheist can do good work.

To christians, we are saved by the grace of God, both faith and good work are simply our responses to God's love.

To an unbeliever good work is just a response to the feeling of others, without believing it benefits them anything in the hereafter.

shdemidemi: That is what faith is,if you are not happy with that definition you can define yours. I don't need to check the dictionary meaning.

That your definition of faith is just what you want faith to mean to you. But you know too well that faith is not only meant for christians.

It goes beyond that.

shdemidemi: It is only God that calls those things that are not as if they were. If God spoke through Paul to say al scriptures are breathed by God. I believe it totally.

Take note of this "all scripture".

When Paul penned down the above, some books of the bible as we have them today are yet to be written, and some books that were in circulation then didn't make it to the bible.

So he did not say any book in the bible is inspired by God.

*I believe the books of the bible are inspired but not because of what you quoted up there.*

What Paul wrote there can actually be applied in so many cases.

shdemidemi: Faith is simply trusting God through Christ...If FAITH comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God, is it then possible to have FAITH if the content isn’t God?

I do not believe, talking about the INFALLIBILITY OF SCRIPTURES, that, from one cover to the other, there is any mistake of any sort in it, either upon natural or physical science, or upon history or anything.

I am prepared to believe WHATEVER it says, and to take it believing it to be the Word of God; for if it is not all true, it is not worth ANYTHING to me. It may be to the man/woman who is so wise that he can pick out the true from the false; but I am such a fool that I could not do that.

If I do not have a guide that is infallible, I will soon guide myself, for I will have to do so after all; I will have to be correcting the blunders of my guide perpetually, but I am not qualified to do that, and so I am worse off than if I didn’t have any guide at all.


There is a doctrine of election in the scripture. I believe the doctrine of election, because I am quite sure that if God had not chosen me I should never have chosen him; and I am sure he chose me before I was born, or else he never would have chosen me afterwards; and he must have elected me for reasons unknown to me, for I never could find any reason in myself why he should have looked upon me with special love.

Is this your definition of faith from the dictionary, bible or your personal definition.