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vest:
ok thanks salc

Gombs:
Deal with it.

Which kind thing? My un following threads i dont see any god reason being in? Na by force to dey thread again?

Jo has put up his account, it's all side by side, there is nothing suggesting Jo was a fraud, if you think otherwise, ask SirJohn if he thinks joe had any fraudulent intentions anywhere.

Thanks

Joagbaje:
MY FULL RESPONSE

i will summarize . Jeff testifies of being healed of HIV. Actually That's about 2years ago or 3. I asked for his medical records he said he could get it within the week. And I assumed he had. I sought his consent on the testimony being shared online . He consented . I asked for the editing of the video .which was done . And a Clip from from the particular programme which Jeff mentioned. Was presented which actually fit Jeff story and also looked like him to a great extent. Except that the other guy looks very sickly and lean which could also be attributed to the ailment . But to be very sure . The video link was sent to jeff on whatsapp to verify if he watched the video and if he was the one being prayed for And he affirmed , so that clears me of any deliberate manipulation . I can send the screen shot of the whatsapp conversation to Gombs if he could post it for me. Sir john also saw the chat because I posted the screen shot to him also.That's that about the Video.

Then concerning his healing. Noe Somebody may ask why i didn't insist on seeing the medical report.the answer is simple I know beyond doubt that the person I prayed for in that video was healed . So the issue is was it Jeff?. And Jeff confirmed he was. So I had double assurance . The witness of the spirit in me on the day of prayer and Jeff affirmation. My shock came when Jeff's pastor watched the video and said it's not Jeff and he gave the video to Jeff and said Jeff said he's not sure it's him. I gave the development feedback to Sirjohn that they said it's not him. And Sirjohn told me that Jeff had admitted to him before also that he watched the video and that he was the one. Sirjohn even posted the audio of the conversation. And he warned that he doesn't trust Jeff .

On why I was not keen on being the one to present the medical evidence . Firstly Because some people here will claim it's manipulated . I prefer the investigators to talk with the testifier and ask him for proof of his healing . And also because of my previous discussion with Sirjohn. He had ask if I can present any miracle through prayer ,he would travell there to investigate and talk with the Neighbours and relative and medicals . So I left the investigation for Him.

So I gave the challenge. For john to find out if this miracle was staged or a fraud as they claimed. I gave the phone number of the guy with the understanding that he had his papers now. When john told me the guy didn't have them , I called him to ask. He said he is now living in delta. And he is out of job. He didn't even have money to go and get the records. I asked for his account no. I sent 30,000 to him.and later another 10,000. Sirjohn will bear witness that the guy sometimes doesn't pick calls for days . I dealt with john with all transparency . Jeff claimed he got his doctors report from of of the doctors who had been transferred to Owerri. But he said they were robbed on the way and he had to go back and start all over. I agree to still give him even if it's 100,000 . To avoid. Story. Sir John was even warning me . That the brother may be taking me for a ride. While we are still waiting for that . I introduced his pastor to john who knew about the history of his ailment .

Finally I had to get his pastor and his ex Fiancee to go to one of the hospitals to get the record of his first test of HIV positive which was sent to Sirjohn. There were 3 hospitals where he said he had test. They've not been able to get the one for HIV negative. He was to go to owerri again . His pastor finally concluded Jeff should do another test now. And he later called me that Jeff travelled. I've called him and sent message . So I'm waiting for the other reports and feed back. And he finally present them . They should be well Scrutinized for any falsehood. And there need be . Jeff can be compelled to do fresh test. If there's anything else I remember I will re post. That's it for now.

Gombs:
Would put up Jo's whatsapp chat screen grab soon.... as i am using my laptop and not the tab. After that, i would smile, take a deep breath.... and unfollow the thread.

Peace

vest:
abeg sum one shuld teach me how to write in thick bolded letter and how to color

flourishG:
If he can't give da dam 500000 that's another dent on his integrity.

flourishG:
now we talking. 500000 ain't no dam joke. He boasted about it though.

rationalmind:
Jo stakes a whole half a million. He's damn sure of his claims.



The million dollar question is, why will Jo stake so much on a claim he never verified?

The answer seems obvious. He has no idea how tithers sweat so hard to get the money he's willing to dash out.

rationalmind:
Lol, before Jo starts editing



https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school/69#26798316

StarBoard:
You must think we are lunatics here.
When Joe was bragging of healing the fellow in question and abusing everybody else who countered that claim, the Jeff fellow was not deceiving him.
Now that there is evidence contrary to the said claim you come here spinning dead yarns about deceiving.

When Jesus cleansed the 10 lepers snd only one returned, he asked the returnee to show himself to the priest to certify that he indeed was clean. How come "pastor" joe couldnt verify that the said claim of healing but went about shouting down any dissenting voice to the healing claim with the approval of his cohorts?

Syncan:
bro Jnrbayano,antie Ify124, nwa ada peppyluv02, abeg everybody come see something o. In the vatican is a museum dedicated to the holy souls, many pilgrims miss this, i am sure babestell must have missed it too, ehm...i dont know about kamsified, the pope's secretary.

"In another exhibit, you can see the mark left on the copy of The Imitation of Christ that
belonged to Margherite Demmerlé of Ellinghen Parish in the Diocese of Metz by her mother in-law. She appeared to Margherite in 1815, 30 years after her death in 1785, dressed as a pilgrim in the region’s traditional dress. She was coming down the stairs with a sad face,as if she were looking for something Margherite told her parish priest. When Margherite asked her who she was, she answered, “I am your mother-in-law who died in childbirth 30 years ago. Go on a pilgrimage to the Shrine of Our Lady of Mariental and have two Masses said for me there.”
When Marguerite asked her for a sign, she put
her hand on the copy of The Imitation of Christ
her daughter-in-law was reading and left burn
marks of her fingers. After Marguerite made the pilgrimage and the Masses were said, she
appeared to her again to tell her that she had
been released from Purgatory. This was all
documented by her parish priest."

http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/e048-Museum_1.htm


Offer up now your prayers, works, joys and sufferings of today for the relief of the holy souls.

Eternal rest grant them o Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon them, may they rest in peace, amen.

Good morning brethren, a splendid day ahead to all.

vest:
hm! mayb is because of the way u go abt it.
although ur religion shuld b ur way of life

vest:
who? and why?

vest:
very good

striktlymi:
I was born in Lagos and practically lived all my life here. The occasional visits home saw me pay homage to the deity of my fathers. I lost interest in going home because of the discord that exists in my grand fathers house. If I go today, every member of the family would welcome me but about 80% of the welcome party wouldn't mind seeing my head on a stake.

striktlymi:
Last time I visited was 16 years ago.

italo:
This is easy for you to say, but if you were in my shoes, village wouldn't be easy to go.

Do you think that it is by your own doing that you go to your village more than I go mine?

It is partly because of your parents...and your 'kind' of village.

Afterall, I dey go my mama village. That one dey easy to go.

At the end of the day, after all is said and done, what is the difference?

Heaven is our eternal village.

vfactor:
You still have not answered my questions. I requested that you show me:

1. What particular traditions did the early Christian apostles stat, that didnt have any backing (implicit or explicit) from either the OT or Christ Teachings? (the lord's supper was started by christ).

All the pharisees cannot literally sit on one seat of Moses, so Jesus meant position of authority as custodians of the law of Moses, just like Moses himself. (and this is not a doctrinal tradition for christians, neither was it started by Christians).

2.What is the scriptural Bases (either implicit or explicit) for teachings such as purgatory, celibacy and praying to saints?

Like i said before, most of what d apostles wrote were explanations on the OT prophecies/psalms, expansion of the teachings of Jesus, and further relations giving to them by Jesus through the holy spirit. At least Paul quoted Jesus as saying there is more happiness in given...(which is not contrary to Jesus teachings on giving as found in the gospel), but whom do you (Catholics) quote on backing ur traditions? (church fathers?)

Ukutsgp:
it better to shut up, than to say what u dnt know. how do u know that the first bible contains 73 books? martin luther came and removed books? u must be a joke. if the first kjv contains the apocrypha, who removed it? is it martin luther too?

Mzflexydeeva:
Good morning great people of God

italo:
I'm from Agenebode too. My mum is Igbo sha.

Only been there once...when I was ten. Grandpa's burial.

Ukutsgp:
so they compiled some 66 and some 73? And which are the questionable ones they added?

What do you know about KJV bible?