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amaridigital:
Those victims of gun violence in the US, are they not Christians? I think some people in Nigeria are brain dead. How many people died this year from gun violence? What's the difference between innocent Christians dying everyday through gun violence and Christians dying in Nigeria?

"What's the difference between innocent Christians dying everyday through gun violence and Christians dying in Nigeria?"

The difference is that the innocent Christians dying through gun violence in America, their death is not state sanctioned. In cases of an active shooter committing mass murder, the perpetrator often get killed on the spot. In lone cases, arrests are often made with prosecution soon to follow. Also, I have not read their government recruiting these killers into the American army, rehabilitating them with the dollar equivalent of 2.5 billion Naira, or releasing them back into the society as repentant this or that.

Your lot know the truth. You are on a mission and know exactly what you're doing. Hence the ridiculous things you guys are typing that makes absolutely zero sense. You can also see your counterpart, the Op, on page 2 of this thread saying because Jos people didn't physically protest, hence their claim of killings is false.

Neoteny:
The same US that refused the Nigerian military weapons to fight BH during GEJ, forcing him to use the CAN president's plane to seek for arms in south africa?

The same US that gave Buhari stringent conditions over ths use of the super tucanos, that is, never to be used anywhere else outside the North East?

Same US that refused to help during the chibok girls crisis?

Christians are being massacred in Sudan but where's the invasion?

I pray the US comes and turns Nigeria to another Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Iraq...when they leave the country in ruins affecting everyone, then perhaps you'll lick your wounds.

Stop the attempt at gaslighting. If millions of followers of a particular religion and the current regime had not key into the devilish agenda to subdue and dominate their fellow countrymen. I mean, if you all had been as vocal as you're now. We wouldn't be in this situation.

Yes, America may likely invade Nigeria. Yes, Trump saying they are coming to save Nigerian Christians is a decoy. Yes, it will affect you and me in a significant way. But really there's nothing we can do at this stage because some Nigerians presented the Amaericans with this perfect opportunity when they chose their religion over their fellow countrymen and the country's interest. At the stage we are currently, what you, me, or anyone else for that matter say or do can't stop the Americans from doing whatever they are gonna do. It is not necessary pointing fingers, but if you must, make sure it is at the right people.

I don't know what scale of delusion Bashir was on when he made this statement "...We will defend our sovereignty and our right to determine our own legal and affairs..." I also don't know if "we" in his statement is limited to the northern region. What I do know is that a combination of southern Christians + traditionalists + atheist + irreligious theists is automatically another majority within majority, and we will also defend against anything and everything that threatens our lives and living. Islam is not the only religion on earth. If the over 10000 other religions are not forcing their ways on Islam, Islam too should allow others be.

The pastor should leave an important issue that a lot of his congregation can relate to--that has direct impact on their lives--and should start talking about Jesus? Marriages are failing, some are starving, some can't seem to be able to recover from the loss of loved ones, some are dying of terminal diseases, some are broke and unemployed, some are drowning in debts, some are depressed and on the verge of suicide, etc. All these issues should be ignored in favour of "talking about Jesus?" In my opinion, I think for the first time in a long while we are beginning to get things right and I urge more of pastor Lazarus to come up and focus their ministries on addressing contemporaries issues facing humanity.

Players like Zirkzee and Mainoo have always threatened to leave but when they get their chance, they hardly impress. I just hope Amorim blocks his ears to calls from fans to play their favourites. Dorgu though should get a permanent sit on the bench.

Tohsynetita1:
Many of you are saying it’s fabricated, Dey play, those stories you do hear of radio programme that are more terrible than this ? Are they also fake?
The thing is things they happen for this world, yesterday I saw a woman that has 8 children for 8 husbands, if it were to be online stories, I would have thought it was fabricated.
The story of military man that was burnt with petrol by his wife; who will believe such story if not from good sources?
Bad things are happening in this world, just pray not to experience such.

Allow. Is this not how they insisted for many years that no "sane" lady will leave the man who sponsored her education until the evidences started trickling in?

Those monikers saying the post is fabricated are mostly females and they know what they are doing. Don't be deceived that some of those monikers have "m" in their usernames. On Nairaland, most moniker with "f" in their username are males with two descending balls. The gender neutral usernames or with "m" in their usernames are mostly women. So you shouldn't be surprised as they're simply protecting their interests. Enough warnings have been sounded. Any man who wants to date a single mum or raise her child as his can go ahead.

I listen to the condescending tone. But more importantly, I observe the aggression, arrogance and combativeness. In as much as Sowore may feel his right is being trampled upon, those officers were the bigger people in this video. One thing I'm most grateful for is that I didn't fall into the hype to vote this guy before I got the chance to scrutinize him. He is not in any way different from the folks he is fond of criticising. Only difference between him and them is opportunity.

thomas2024:
The government in power should as well conduct free and fair election and not victimize electorates or bribe eye-neck officials for undue favour. No one trust APC. You guys are just saying what comes to your mind because of what you people are benefiting. APC and bobo Chicago are anything call evil coterie

Is an election only free and fair when your preferred candidate wins? A presidential election where Atiku, Obi and Kwankwaso had over 13 million votes between them vs. 8.9 million of the winner is not free and fair? Where PDP, SDP and Labour party had over 100 legislators is not free and fair? Where five ex-governors lost their senatorial ambitions is not free and fair?

You see how you limited Nigeria woes to APC forgetting that everything we have witnessed under APC--including opposition intimidation, electoral fraud, sole administrator nonsense--also happened under the PDP. Or have you forgotten so soon OBJ's sham election of 2003 and 2007 where even late president Yar'Adua expressed his disappointment and pledged to do better? Or is it how Fayose won his second term election and the role Obanikoro played? Or how GEJ haunted the current president with different courts? I know your rebuttal would be the usual "should we continue doing something because it happened in the past?" Well, there again I call the hypocrisy because the APC you guys are always quick to bring into discussions--at least the APC of 2015 - 2023--is also in the past!

What I can tell anybody wanting to fight for Nigerians is that, don't. Save your energy for yourself and loved ones. Most criticisms lacks sincerity and are born out of envy of the "choppers" anyway, and not the need for positive change. Also, Nigerians are party-people and have favourites among the same politicians that got us into this mess.

@Seun, does this kind of thread deserve front page? Does it support your no-tribalism position? Do you want to keep pretending you don't know your supermod that push this kind of posts to the front page, and that this is not his first or second time?

The annoying part to this whole thing is that nothing will probably happen to the alleged coup plotters, just like nothing happen to that kaduna Northern general who wanted to overthrow GEJ before American government intervened.

Northerners have gotten away with a lot in this country that is why they keep pushing their luck. This is the time for PBAT to make examples like president Erdoğan did. It is funny because it is only when a Southerner is in power that we get to hear of coups. For Buhari's eight years of misrule, they weren't rumours, not to talk of actual coup plot.

He hasn't even settle in to understand the system yet he is already talking about drones. This man will soon understand that the INEC job is unlike any other job he has done in his entire life

malali:

I want you to use the same energy she uses to bash Nigeria and list the social ills of the UK. Go ahead!

That’s exactly why even her own party finds her difficult, she’s two-faced. If you’re going to highlight another person’s struggles, you should first deal with your own.

Maybe if Kemi had used that same energy to address the real struggles of the UK, people might have considered her fit for higher office, possibly even prime minister. I have nothing personally against her, but the minute she made it her business to disparage Nigeria and Nigerians, she made herself fair game.

We’ve only just begun; we will be watching to see if she can ever turn out to be better than the Nigeria she constantly criticizes. I can easily list 20 struggles and social ills in the UK that Kemi hasn’t properly addressed, yet the moment she gets a microphone, she starts attacking Nigerians.

Mark my words: once the Tories remove her, she will fade into political oblivion.

"Social ills"? Like, seriously? Did anything I wrote, which you quoted, translate to gun/gang violence, substance abuse endemic, poverty or unequal economic opportunities? Or has the meaning of "social ills" changed overnight?

I mean, what is the big deal in pointing out that the Nigerian state and her governments is not only aiding and abetting wrongdoers and law breakers, but that it is also rewarding them, which has lead to impunity and ultimately the current sorry state of the country?

Anyway, "we’ve only just begun" from your reply tells me this is personal and that you understand my point perfectly. I understand every country has its own challenges and in the case of Nigeria, what qualifies as a "real challenge," will be something like her inability to be able to generate enough revenue to sustain her 250 million population. This is not the same as giving oil contracts to militants as a reward for taking up arms against the state. Or releasing terrorists back into the society all in the name of repentance. Or granting pardon to killers who should at the very least serve life. Or (repeatedly) ignoring gross incompetence like the state's airforce wanting to bomb "bandits" but bombing hundreds of innocent Nigerians instead.

I know you get my point but you just want to deflect, and that is OK.

malali:
Kemi could have simply focused on improving the welfare of Britons, tightening legal migration, deporting illegal migrants, and upholding fairness, and she would have been perfectly fine. But instead, she overreached, taking every chance to denigrate Nigeria, even going so far as to attack the Vice President. It showed a startling lack of emotional maturity.

It’s like when your parents are fighting , and in a fit of anger, you call your father impotent. No matter how you try later, those words can never truly be taken back. That’s exactly what Kemi did.

For Nigerians to forgive her, it will take more than words. She would have to symbolically cleanse herself , to go and bathe in the Osun River at noon, escorted by children, to appease the gods of her ancestors in Yoruba land. Only then, perhaps, would her spirit find balance again.

Your only issue with Kemi is that she exposes Nigeria for what it is. What has she said that isn't the truth. Did Nigeria not employ and protect killer policemen? How many of the erring SARS operatives were removed from the force even with the bloody 2020 protest? Even some of them that are retired like Nwafor of Anambra, did the state went after them?

Just yesterday, a clergy in Pleateau raised alarm that Fulani militias were planning attacks on his community. What did the army do? They quickly debunk the report, accusing the man of raising false alarm. Less than 24 hours, the attack happened as feared. Did heads rolled in the army? Should I also chime in the case of the Nigerian athlete that switch allegiance to Turkey whom some people within the sports federation intentionally denied her participation rights in two major competitions? The people responsible for this, were any of them summoned or sacked? Or should I talk about the case of Prof. Ishiaq Oloyede of Jamb with that show of shame were the future of young Nigerian were derailed with some having committed suicide? Yet, no inquiry was setup, and Prof. Oloyede wasn't invited for questioning. Just sobbing on live TV was enough.

These are the issues that Kemi often highlights in her speeches--that the Nigerian state is protecting and rewarding wrongdoers and mediocrity. Rather than look into these issues, you and your likes are more concerned about how to cover it up or shut the messenger down by shouting on top of your lungs that she is denigrating Nigeria.

Only people who want to be pressured will be pressured. I used to care, but not anymore. Most of these parents, uncles, aunties, sisters that are now burdening their sons, daughters, siblings etc. are the architect of their own misfortune when they stupidly believe that they were carrying out God's instructions of "be fruitful and multiply".

In today’s economy, it takes an average of 20 million Naira to raise a child from infancy to 25 years. Yet you will see most poor families giving birth to three, four, five or more. Tell them about family planning, they will say their culture or religious belief forbids it. Talk to them about adoption, they will start looking at you like you are Adolf Hitler or Mussolini. We can pretend or try to shift blame all we want but this is the foundation of generational poverty in Africa.

Imagine having just two kids instead of four or five. The 20 million Naira average cost of raising one child, imagine just 5 million of that saved somewhere, or even investing it on behalf of your two kids. Like I always maintain, most Africans have no business with poverty only if they jettison their inclination to stupid traditional and religious idealogies and choose to be more rational and intentional about their lives.

Isn't her brother the one always on dreads and acting romance scenes in movies as a pastor son even while his parents were still alive? Didn't his marriage crashed too? Now the sister.

The thing is, rebels don't last long in anything or anywhere so I'm not surprised. If you can’t submit to authority, to structures that have existed thousands of years ago. And find yourself always questioning everything and everybody, constantly going against the rule or fighting the system. Did the brother think there weren't pastor's sons in Nigeria who also wanted to act erotic movie scene and spot dreads? What did he think held them back or why did he think he is the one to go against the grain. Same with the sister now openly announcing the collapse of her marriage like it is something to be proud of even when she knows the stand of christainity on divorce. Plus, the choice of that outfit for her birthday photoshoot.

It is just like joining the army as a man and saying you don't like taking orders from your fellow men, hence only selecting orders to obey. Or insisting on spotting full beards as a service personnel. Or a woman joining the police and insisting on wearing necklace, earrings, or legchain while on duty.

Every institution have its structures/rules that its members must submit themselves to, or sometimes expectations that people have of the members of particular organisations or institutions. In the case of christainity, it is modesty and decorum--virtues the Odukoya's have consistently scorned. I'd think if their parents influence was too great on them that they couldn't be themselves while they were alive. Their parents are gone now, so they should just quietly leave in peace should they know they can't fully embody christain values.

Godfullsam:
On the contrary, it was the man that dodged a missile.

See the way the lady was claiming to be sweet and respectful yet she was not humble enough to address her husband's family the way the culture demand.
She sees her degree to be more superior than the cultures that have been existing before she was born.

This is the kind of ladies that won't respect their husband families. Once you don't have a master degree, she will see you as a piece of shit.

Prideful, arrogant, disrespectful and unruly. Only that Masters degree statement is enough to call off whatever nonsense they were planning. That statement although veiled, runs deep and is very loaded. She 'carpeted' the guy's family in one fell swoop. The people speaking to her defense are speaking from a place of ignorance or sentiment. I would say her husband-to-be is the luckiest dude on earth.

I once lived with a couple during my undergrad days. This woman, anytime she has disagreement with her husband will be quick to remind him how he is just a school cert holder while she on the other hand is a second class upper degree holder. Not only that, the woman doesn't listen to not just the man but even her own parents and the elderly couple who tried to mediate. There is another story of a former church member. The man was a charted accountant who married a school cert. He tormented his wife with this reality at every opportunity he got. He is late now but that woman remain broken.

With people who are unruly, prideful, and disrespectful and can even own it, don't even try.

"If our boys mistakenly abduct anyone..." "Mistakenly" God abeg o

Not a scholar. No contribution to academics or research. No invention or innovation. No career in the private sector. Not a founder or employer of labor. And even more importantly, no lasting legacy as a former president of the most populous black nation on earth. Imagine a life where everything you are and will forever be, is tied to what a badly put together contraption gave you on a platter.

Hence, I can't blame him for the boldface lies and show of arrogance. Him and his goons including Muritala, Gowon, Babangida, Buhari, and Abacha are only relevant in Nigeria.

Even if Gov. Fubara doesn't believe what is coming out of his own mouth, at least now he is playing the game as it should. Honesty has no place in politics. As a politician, you don't say what you mean and don't mean what you say. Lying must become your second nature. You have got to be cunny and crooked, just like the majority of your subjects/voters/followers. That is how to survive in politics anywhere in the world!

She should have just left quietly. Of course, staying back wasn't an option because that would have been one of many more embarrassing moments to come because trust me, even if she reports the erring man to the higher ups, by default, she is the one in the wrong. The leaders are never wrong and are always protected or excused with one bullshit narrative of how you shouldn't make a big deal of the matter because your service is to God, or because your offender is your leader and what he did was within his right.

I had a similar experience during my teenage years and looking back, I'm glad that happened because up until that point, I saw christainity as different from other religions. But that event changed everything. I was able to see the cult-like aspect that I have been trying hard to convince myself not to believe, especially regarding how the members jumped in the defense of their leader and denomination despite knowing the man was clearly wrong, just as it is happening here on this thread. That event gave me clarity, and was instrumental in my eventual decision.

BondRiv:
He is a public servant, not a king. The impunity and arrogance from the leaders are encouraged by followers like you.

Once you see someone with an independent mind, you get trigerred. Once you see someone's whose opinion doesn't feed into your narrative or whom you can't manipulate to further your agenda, you start name-calling and throwing words around. If your own definition of public servant or good governance is inviting every critic to the government house, or allowing one small boy to be use your head all in the name of calling out the government. Then, by all means.
But must you quote me? Did I broke any of Nairaland rules?

So how many critics will Gov. Sanwo-Olu be inviting to the government house? This is weakness, not leadership. Leadership is not trying to please everybody. That is how you allowed a Youtuber to disrespect you last year all because you wanted to be a peacemaker. Gov. Sanwo-Olu please face governace and allow clout chasers to chase their clout in peace. Even X actively advises blocking of users or accounts we aren't interested in.

No photo of his passport page to support claims of his Nigerian citizenship. The information is not even coming from the Romanian authorities either. So, what makes him a Nigerian?

That was how someone posted a couple of days ago about a naked woman in a bank in South Africa bank, alleging that she was Nigerian whereas she wasn't.

I don't understand why Seun allows this kind of posts on the front page. Even so, I don't understand the rationale behind some of the comments on the first and second page. We don't have a particularly spectacular image to the outside world but here we are scoring an own goal.

My own is, they should prioritize crowd control. This is stomach affairs and people usually throw caution to the wind. We don't want another repeat of that unfortunate Ibadan incident.

LZAA:
And the head of AFN had the guts to accuse the poor girl of chasing money.
Smh

He was that shameless and ballsy and he had to be honestly. After all, he retained his job after that story hit the news, but even more worrisome, after he made those scathing and vindictive remarks about Ofili.

It is the same thing they do with NYSC kits where they give very inferior white roundnecks, oversize/undersize shoes, alongside poorly sewn overalls and shorts. Just like how they share NYSC contracts between the corrupt serving and retired Generals, I'm pretty sure that HiRacer of a company will be owned by one of the sport administrators. If Tobi knows what is good for her, she should just switch allegiance because she will be frustrated going forward just like the Ofili girl and nobody will be held accountable. They enjoy doing the wrong things but hate being exposed.

purples25:
There should be a way to mark single fathers too and prevent single ladies from marrying them. Because I don’t understand how I’m hearing about single mothers like they are a set of females that chose to impregnate themselves and stand alone.

This argument is tired or should I say ill conceived? The consequences of sex will never be same for men and women (biology made sure of that). Also, men and women are not judged the same way or should I say men and women have certain unwritten priviliges? (this one is formed by the society we live in and ain't nobody gonna change it).
The problem I have is where women keep silent about their privileges but nags about men privileges. Let me quickly run you through four examples of women privileges.

Example one: If a man and a woman set out for any front-facing job today, like say customer support, the odds of a woman getting that job is 75:25 in favour of the woman.

Example 2: In most places on this earth, men criminals caught in the act be looking like Asians while women criminals will still have their body intact with clothes on. Ditto I have been in a vehicle where we were stopped by policemen for stop-and-search. The three men in the car where searched but never the two women. In cases where women are even searched, it is usally light but men, the way your scrotum will be groped?

Example 3: When a woman claims a man hits her or sexually defile her, at least 30% of people believes her instantly and are already showing support and sympathy.

Example 4: In most cases of paternity frauds, not only does the women walk free (the man doesn't get compensation even though he had previously went to jail for not paying child support), in most Western world, the man is also forced to keep paying child support regardless, especially when the real father of the child is deceased.

Example 5: When marriages break up, at the very least it is the man that gets to start from the scratch (get a new home, new job or more jobs, start a new family, etc). 95% of the time, women get the child(ren) at the very least (you may try to trivalize this but ask yourself why women always fight for custody even though some of them are not qualified by their lifestyle of excessive drinking, partying or substance abuse).

So, you see, men and women have privileges but your greatest undoing as a woman will be trying to compete with men on their privileges or even worst, trying to take away their privileges away.

All that destruction because your government wanted to shutdown social media? Would have even made sense if they were protesting against insecurity, unemployment or hardship.

What people haven't sit down to think about is, after the freedom of speech, what next? Unless you're talking to get attention which is mostly the case.

Dele Giwa has been dead going four decades but Gen. Babangida is well into his eighties. Whatever Dele Giwa was speaking against is still with us today, alongside the people who were responsible for it. The only people who aren't with us are people like Dele Giwa who allowed themselves to be disillusioned with "freedom of speech."

If you feel hard done by or want real change, get yourself into power by any means possible and strive to be better than your predecessors. This is the only way to get results without causing unncessary loss of lives and properties.

CaptainFM1:
There's no time too late to correct a wrong. "Nigeria will be playing SA tomorrow. You will not expect Nigeria or SA to select that match officials". I hope this analogy explains it better to you?

Not just Nigeria or South Africa, in the history of football, there has never been a time when any country participating in a competition was allowed to choose match officials. It didn't happen then, it is not going to happen with the Nig - S/A game. That is the difference. That is consistency!

Inconsistency is when since 1999 every single Nigerian president singlehandedly picked an INEC chairman but the current regime is where y'all woke up (after three presidents and 20 solid years).

You know it, I know it, and Tinubu himself knows it that this kind of calls is not in the interest of the country but just some people who want him out and want their favourite politician in. And that is why Tinubu is going to appoint an INEC Chairman, and so will other presidents after him.

IbrahimSola:
Whatever happens, nothing stays up forever.

No matter what is compromised, one day, APC will leave just like PDP did. And all will be vanity. Today the people who destroyed Nigeria are complaining. The policemen who held umbrella for these evil politicians are suffering, some are going on protest. The P.A.s who did all the dirty work, some of them are suffering.

That is the same way that the ones who are doing it today will also suffer. Let them continue.

And to cap it all, Humphrey Nwosu, Maurice Iwu, Jega, and all the INEC or Eyeneck bosses left and the remaining and upcoming ones will also leave. Even the one that came up with BVAS that didnt work will soon leave. Nothing lasts forever. At the end of the day what they have is regret upon regret.

I once worked in an office where the head of Audit connived with the CEO to loot. When the chips were down, he said his only regret was that the didnt blow the whistle. And I said Sir, that is the only reason you were employed as the head of audit.

These Eyeneck bosses and staff were employed to be an unmpire, but in their heart of hearts, they know that they're thieves and nothing more.

I think your anger is very misplaced. The INEC bosses are very powerless. Go and watch Humprey Nwosu's interviews. On more than one occasion, he mentioned how Abacha (then Babangida's Chief of Staff) threatened him with his own security. Same thing with Jega. I mean these guys are just put there as figurehead to take the hit. They decide nothing. Someone somewhere is responsible for their pay, security, appointment, dismissal.

In my opinion, I think democracy is the problem. It is a very deceptive system of government. Words like "order" and "administrator" that we hate to hear under the military has now been made very normal under democracy. Or is it abuse of power? A former first lady still has some of her workers in detention for over five years for a case of theft. There is a certain ex Governor from northwest who during his time in office, opposing voices were just disappearing like fart.

Like I said, the INEC bosses are not the problem because they lack actual power (command of the armed forces and unfettered access to Nigeria's wealth). I can bet even you will comport and comply as INEC Chairman when a politician looks you straight in the face and tells you your security or those of your family is not guaranteed.