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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:16pm On Jun 10, 2020
jl115:
Learn what mate? grin grin grin Abuja can't compete with SAn cities!! stick to comparing it to Nairobi, know your role and stay in your lane wink
You are still making noise after all this while..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:13pm On Jun 10, 2020
forgiveness:
Kkkkkkkkkk! It doesn't change the fact that Gautrain is mere compared to Abuja SGR. grin

Less I forget, your mere metro rail in Pretoria is Cape gauge. An old and outdated railway system. We still use that here in Lagos and other cities. Not impressed. grin

Show me sgr railway system within Pretoria metropolitan area. Good luck finding. grin
Lol
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:11pm On Jun 10, 2020
jl115:
Yes
Pic pls
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:10pm On Jun 10, 2020
jl115:
Wishing you can compete wink

There is a reason SA ranks 33rd in Infrastructure globally and Nigeria Ranks much much lower
Abuja! Abuja!! Abuja!!!...learn
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:09pm On Jun 10, 2020
jl115:
Its called the Metro rail!!! (see Pics)

And unfortunately you DF11GN passenger locomotives are only rated to go 160kmph wink
Does Capetown have a metro?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:08pm On Jun 10, 2020
popizaino:
How can you call a city with over 4m inhabitants a ghost town ?

You are fast becoming another joke
The problem with them is they think Abuja revolves round the CBD only..they don't know that the difference between Abuja CBD a Nd their is that no tom,dick and Harry can just wake up and take his shack shop building to the city centre..your building has to meet a certain standard and then get approved by govt....
You want to build your rubbish then head to lines or area 1 and the rest a d even at that if the building is bad it would be broken down...
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:05pm On Jun 10, 2020
Shma:
I don't see the space for other mixed use development projects.! Or will they demolish the adjustment areas to pave way for them.?


But Bro this is just tiny for two rivers.
Yes, it would be demolished..some have been demolished..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:02pm On Jun 10, 2020
Baliv254:
grin grin competing with south africa? you have no shame just pure ego
Yes competing with SA and I can say that over and over again...the facts are out there for everyone..

It's your ego that won't allow you accept nairobi is behind our ass... Nairobi should Aim Lagos then maybe Abuja later..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:59am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
That is beauty of it -get a drone - and now see the million dollars homes in Kitusuru and Kabete. The rich in kenya don't live in concrete jungle in 1/4 acre of plots. They build huge house that would look semi-rural to you - some sits on 5 acre of land. Karen for a long time you could not subdivide beyond 5 acres...min 5 acres.
Don't get me a drone view..I want a drive through this neighbourhood..I want to see the level of planning and modernity not rural Forest vibe..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:59am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
That roads end up in Kitusuru - here are example of houses in rural high class Nairobi estates


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHbjb1RZFls
Lol this is ugly ,crappy and bland as usual..dintbyou guys have high luxury taste in Kenya...
I mean homes like this should even be smart to being with not the regular interior decor that even I can put together yet I am not an interior decorator..so basic with cheap lighting and windows..fvck.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:56am On Jun 10, 2020
Shma:
empty two rivers??
Should I show the mixed used development renders image in two rivers mall?
I guess you don't know what you're saying.
The bottom line is that we have seen that small mall in Nigeria. Is not even a mall. Is a structure under construction. not that small but as compared to a two rivers, garden city, signature and the likes in Kenya it's a baby.
The mixed use development may come or may not.
As for two rivers, we're seeing more higrise coming up along side it.
Two river mall is completed so which render do you want to show me....
Time will tell as you said...
And yes the mixed use development is ongoing..even me and forgiveness talked about it recently here..
Go back and see pictures..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:53am On Jun 10, 2020
forgiveness:
There are lots of infrastructure development going on during this regime though but I don't fancy his security policy.

If not for this pandemic and past recession, we for don go fa grin
True..
I also don't fancy his security policy..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:52am On Jun 10, 2020
Baliv254:
honestly the quality of architecture and planning in WA is shit,
its the truth dont threaten my life like you did last time grin
Our cities are not competing with your zoo..we are right there competing with SA...Try picking any of your zoo city and see if it can met half the list of Pretoria used in comparing Abuja..
You talk Architecture and you showed me this block building that can be found all over Africa...

Btw, since when did nairobi become planned..like when..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:49am On Jun 10, 2020
This place is an equivalent of Eastleigh in Nairobi right in Lagos but as bad as this one in Lagos looks it's far better than that nonsense in Eastleigh...
So what do you mean by slumpolis and integrated slum again... atleast the buildings in this neighbourhood is still sane with good roads running even through street for a common man..you can't even see refuge in the road Hoyt a closer look and Langata posh environment and one will vomit.. Eastleigh is just another reminder in its own league....

Illupeju vs Eastleigh. grin grin grin..the diffyis freaking clear grin grin grin



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME_ar_NW444

Vs



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNxRtORnpA4

grin grin grin



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogJYILP7Gnw
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:44am On Jun 10, 2020
Baliv254:
sorry but fact is nairobi is way ahead of all cities in west africa
Common stop making noise..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:43am On Jun 10, 2020
Shma:
pictures speak volume.
You can't start comparing this city with the empty land in Abuja. But in roads Abuja takes it bro.
Never you compare your open market slum cbd to anything in Nigeria..
The best of Mombasa..




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWMj_8S9uhw
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo:
rvp2018:
This same rural Kabete houses that looks like a forest from the road smiley . What you call luxury in Nigeria and Abuja - is what we call lower middle class in Kenya build somewhere 30-40kms from Nairobi - in Nairobi metro with plots equal to 1/8 or 1/4.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df6vSyCN5Uo&t=18s
Tbis is very ugly..I want to see the planning,the modernity,the buildings, the street signs,the streetlight (what happens when it gets dawn,no streetlight in any of your planned neighbourhood),...stop hiding behind houses sitting on hectares of land...those are surburns tucked far away from the city....
This is Woodhill estate in SA you can see the similarities it has with that if Abuja...the building are closer to the roads with greenery and trees,wide roads....not some house sitting deep into the forest on massive hectares tuck far away from the city with zero connection to urban life in Nairobi..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONsrd5OTJas

Now this is the one in Abuja



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMly1icGusk

Now you see the Difference..you weasel cannot outsmart me with your cheap talk...stop dodging and trying to deflect this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BakIOgkP080
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:26am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
That is beauty of it -get a drone - and now see the million dollars homes in Kitusuru and Kabete. The rich in kenya don't live in concrete jungle in 1/4 acre of plots. They build huge house that would look semi-rural to you - some sits on 5 acre of land. Karen for a long time you could not subdivide beyond 5 acres...min 5 acres.
Don't get me a stone view..I want a drive through this neighbourhood..I want to see the level of planning and modernity not rural Forest vibe..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:25am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
Nairobi except Eastland is full of trees - I can give you a list of Nairobi high-class estates - none was built in forest - people plant trees and etc.

The roads are narrow because public vehicles are NOT allowed in such estates.

You need to have your own car or get taxi - but you cannot except to see public taxi or bus or etc.

Abuja estates are what obtains in Nairobi Metro - those are 1/4 acre of house - and they are for middle class and even lower-middle class.

In most of Nairobi high and uperr middle class estates - and they stretch HALF OF NAIROBI landmass in my estimation - most houses go for anything from 0.5M - but majority start from 1m dollars.
Lol you are making noise..so kabete is even an estate and yet I requested planned neighbourhoods..heck even at that the estate looks like a crappy ,village rural Forest drive with ugly roads and open gutter...lol that is as if I am driving through the udimiken hill in Enugu and enjoying what nature has to offer along the hills..
Now post Nairobi planned residential neighbourhood for the highest of class...I want to disgrace your zoo once and for all..
Abuja's modernity is just on another level with those in SA..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:19am On Jun 10, 2020
forgiveness:
I need to see them then because when I saw Abuja road, Bros no Konto or pot holes. The still remain the same after many years.
Abuja roads is good but Capetown roads should be competing with those in London...they really tried in developing Capetown...I must give that to them..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:16am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
Nairobi richest neighberhood are define by greenery and of course huge palatial houses. Abuja the ones I have seen are middle class and even lower middle class houses you see in Nairobi Metro.

This Lower Kabete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BakIOgkP080
Lol I swear this video looks as though I am driving through the village of Nsukka..most especially the forest part..lol...
Noisemakers everywhere chest beating for nothing..
Funny enough I didn't see a single houses.jyst tress and deep wild forest grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:14am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
Dynamic - the fastest growing - Nairobi world 6th - latest ranking.

in 2017 - it was 10th most dynamic
Growing what exactly..I want to hear you say it grin grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:14am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
Nairobi richest neighberhood are define by greenery and of course huge palatial houses. Abuja the ones I have seen are middle class and even lower middle class houses you see in Nairobi Metro.

This Lower Kabete

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BakIOgkP080
This is a neighbourhood built in the deepest of Nairobi's forest with a single carriage extremely narrow road and open drainage....
You saw could literally see modernity and planning merging together in Abuja from the wide double carriage roads, to the sidewalks, to the tree planting and side garden, to the streetlight, streetsign,traffic light,cctv...I tell you only SA top residential planned neighbourhoods can compete..Abuja is not called Africa's most planned city for nothing..every freaking thing was taken into consideration...it's global standard
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:10am On Jun 10, 2020
Shma:
am just seeing a tiny curved mall, the rest are
Mixed used development.
By the time you catch up with two rivers, we'll have started on a megga one.
And you think that massive mall is compeywuth your empty two rivers mall..
Wait until it is completed then your two river goes to the pit..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:08am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
Yet another prototype - please show us pictures when it completed. You're just a day dreamer.
Yet again another of your wild envy and paranoia..show us pictures when Kenya gets to that level..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:07am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
We have 3-4 cbds - old cbd - westland - upperhill - and we have likes of Kilimani coming up pretty fast - Joburg and entire Gauteng will be overtaken by Nairobi metro very very soon.

There is a reason why Nairobi was named the 6th most Dynamic City in the world with a selected Asian cities.

It's growing very very fast.
Lol I want to bust your stupid lies then have a good laugh(more like mocking you)
.. Nairobi is dynamic in what again grin grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:05am On Jun 10, 2020
forgiveness:
That one no know wetin em dey yan. Other Africa countries are not sleeping for South Africa but they think otherwise.

Abuja is ranked above Pretoria now. That's the koko now. grin


See Abuja light rail Pretoria don't have. grin

Don't forget, Abuja-Lokoja - Itakpe - Warri is under construction. grin

ji115 copy. grin
They're be surprised at how fast the rest of Africa is catching up...once we complete Lekki deepseaport and that one in Calabar and then uyo...the one in Durban becomes a sick joke..


If we had APC rules Nigeria for the Amount of Time PDP did,Nigeria would have been on another level..I mean look at it, barely 6 years and Infastructures are everywhere..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:00am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
Langata is middle class - neighbors Kibera - and is one of those old neighborhoods. Nairobi high-class estates are LEAFY - Key word - the more trees - grass - forest - the more high class in Nairobi.
Show me a drive through those leafy neighbourhood...I want to see the level of world class planning..Abuja planned neighbourhoods has no competitor here except for those in SA.. fact..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:58am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
That is 2017 and 2019 pic - You can see the WTO building there. Abuja is ghost town. A monumental waste of oil revenues. Nairobi is aiming at Joburg - and is miles ahead of any west Africa slumpolis...leave alone a ghost gov city,.
Nairobi can aim joburg dusty CBD for this century then maybe later head for Sandton and after that head for waterfall..for now you are a shiity third world mess licking the behinds of any of our cities...don't you understand..
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:57am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
Abuja that you're so afraid to post anything beyond a selected street level pictures ?
I don't post pictures, I post drive through video to show every goddam thing about Abuja cos there is absolutely nothing....I always love showing the level of that world class city in driving videos.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:56am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
That is Nairobi middle to the lower-middle-class estate - very shabby looking. Nairobi high class estate are the ones you already declared to be Canada.
Talk is cheap..show me driving video of your best planned residential neighbourhoods not estates..lol if your best Langata looks like a mess with slummish attributes, I wonder what the rest would look like...
Driving through shitty Langata, Nairobi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmz5CUp37a0
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:51am On Jun 10, 2020
rvp2018:
I nearly puked my breakfast
This ABUJA in this video or another one. Abuja is competing with Tanzania similar city DODOMA. You cannot waste money and build a gov city - and somehow expect it to THRIVE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkBI-RGoUio

or this Abuja

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnxc38loSY8

This monumental waste of 13 billion dollars by Sani Abacha smiley smiley - the City cannot even compete with Mombasa - because it's frankly dead and cannot grow.
Lol even the old video normal f Abuja CBD makes anything in Kenya looks like. Joke..that's just fact...just know your place and locate your peers..

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