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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:55am On Jun 15, 2019
TayserMahri:
THe mighty Lagos has over 100 slums housing over 70 % of La-Goose-ans. Jus sayin. cheesy
This article of your is very archaic.
Mostly from late 90s to early 2000s

Go and tend your ever rising slum capital then you can speak slum to others
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:52am On Jun 15, 2019
cossano:
before stumbling upon this thread, i used to spend most of my time on nairaland on sections such as immigration and culture, and i have come to learn a lot about Nigeria from the culture section especially. i use to think that tribalism in kenya was the worse until i discovered the culture section, the the much hyped hatred between luos and kikuyus in kenya is nothing compared to igbo and yoruba hatred, in Kenya, tribes only quarrel not fight in the run up to election, after elections, we embrace each other and the journey continues for the next five years, what i have read on those sections makes me believe that tribalism in Kenya is still at infancy. Again in Kenya we do not practice ethnic nationalism, you will never hear tribes 'claiming' cities or regions and threatening other tribes with violence if they do not vote in a particular way or do certain things, am therefore submitting to us that Kenyan tribalism only exist among politicians at elections at not among the citizen because they do not want to be interrogated on issues,Nigerian should embrace one Nigeria even when politician mobilize along ethnic lines
yeah you are right but they barely exist outside nairaland.
The hate is real in reality but not as intense as you are picturing it. How they you explain to your fellow nigerian that you killed a person from another tribe simply because he spoke bad about yours. I can assure you that such person would be stoned to death before the police even arrives to pick him/ her up.

I personally don't miss Igbo and Yoruba fight on nairaland cos it's so funny and savagery
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:46am On Jun 15, 2019
cossano:
most Kenyans actually know that this kind of borrowing is damaging to the future growth of our country but would rather keep quiet, but even if we complain is not like anything will change, politicians will keep having their way as usual as the ordinary Kenyan is squeezed to the last drop, taxes keep going up and up making life more unbearable, i mean you cannot grow a nation through taxation and borrowing.
True.
I hope rvp understands this whenever he shouts growing economy, $300 by 2030, $100bn now,
I keep repeating no hope and future for this country unless such illiterate, wicked act is stopped
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:40am On Jun 15, 2019
Kazikazi:
Out of that 30b, minus a 8b.You remain with 22. A tax shortfall from KRA is 6b. Now 6 minus 22 which is 16. From that 16, give some cash to jubelee thieves! What remains? Peanuts? No. You remain with groundnuts!
l




grin grin you saId it all you savage
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:39am On Jun 15, 2019
cossano:
that budget of ours has nothing to celebrate, i always wonder why have a bigger budget that you cannot fully finance, is like having a bigger budget than your salary, you'll only end up in a recurrent debt, i predict tougher times ahead for Kenya unless the wage bill and the massive corruption is reduced
Hahaha rvp see your life.
To think the idiot has been shouting federal budget, $100bn, $30bn by 2030, south africa kind of infastructural, non commodity broad based diversified economy - hahaha the scream of a fool. grin grin

Your revenue can not build roads let alone traffic light grin grin. Open your eyes your so called revenue goes to your debt servicing while the rest end up in a Swiss offshore account with nothing to show for except untarred roads.

Cossano thanks for these enlightenment I also forsee tougher times ahead for kenya
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:25am On Jun 15, 2019
rvp2018:
Federal budget - you state budgets are very minuscule - outside of Lagos. I know there is a crazy governor in Cross Rivers who doesn't know what budget is - but generally your states are indebted to the eyeballs - and have huge problems paying salaries - leave alone funding infrastructure.
Hahaha. Those project he showed you are very expensive and are funded by state budget not federal .
With your federal budget people still ride on old dusty resourcesless soil
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:22am On Jun 15, 2019
rvp2018:
We have more budget than you.Why can't we not do more infrastructure. If we start counting fly over bridges in Kenya - dude - we will ran out of space. Before we get to other cities like Mombasa

Thika road alone has like 20 smiley Outering has like 10?; Southern By-pass has like 10: bla bla

And we are just getting started. We are spending I think 4B dollars on infrastructure this year alone.

BUDGET speaketh - when this thread started we had budget about 15B dollars - now it's double.

By 2023/2024 - we would be spending 60B dollars - and then by then we would have bridge most of our infrastructure deficit - and will be aiming at south africa kind of infrastructure.
You talk and you dream alot.
What has your budget done on your roads
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:19am On Jun 15, 2019
rvp2018:
What makes you think they don't exist in kenya cities smiley. We are building inter-changes deep in rural areas along key corrindors.

Interchanges in rural kenya
1) Njoro Interchange
2) Mau Summit Interchange
https://i.imgur.com/5Mwn2Eih.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IVR0U5Xh.jpg
Nah you need to start from basic stuff like constructing more roads cause the total kilometer you construct anually is not up to 600Km.No wonder you have less than 10,000km of tarred roads after 56 years of independence. This begs the question what have yyou been doing with all those chinese loan all this years?
If you are going to be somebody's slaves atleast let it's be worth it
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:15am On Jun 15, 2019
obaaderemi:
The word KENYA is blur on Ujuri's shirt.

Duh! tongue
See a clearer picture here:
Can I hear you say NIGERIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol he took that long ugly skinny leg that looks like the neck of a giraffe from his kenyan side but retained that perfect nigerian charm from his father side who is a nigerian.
All thanks to our ancestors for good looks cheesy
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:10am On Jun 15, 2019
rvp2018:
Why do have such low life expectancy without HIV-AIDS epidemics hitting your shores?. Don't celebrate yet - because once HIV-AIDS is done with Nigeria - you'll have many stories to tell.

The Aid scourge started in Congo forest and then moved to East Africa - with Uganda becoming the hardest hit in 80s and Kenya in 90s - and then it spread Southern Africa countries.

Uganda & Kenya have largely fought off the epidemics and are noted success stories in that fight. Southern Africa countries are just about turning the corner...they know understand what Kenya & Uganda went through in 80s and 90s.

Kenya saw it's life expectancy drops to low of 45yrs in 90s - as people were dying like fleas - but look - we are now on 67-69 yrs - and have changed the story completely.

Now the HIV-AIDS epidemics is turning towards West Africa - and Nigeria is not prepared to deal with it - they haven't even dealt with Polio and many diseases that have been eliminated elsewhere.

What matters in life - is PROGRESS - are you moving forward or backward.
You will suffer in that country.
After so many years of reducing that deadly virus yet you still have 1.5m out of 44m while nigeria has 1.9m out of 200million and it's still decreasin rapidly. By 2030 we would have wipe that nonsense
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:07am On Jun 15, 2019
Jonraid:
So it's only Kenyans that apply? The guy comes here and advertises himself. You are so petty! It's his money ! grin
He doesn't
If you don't like how I am analysising your parasitic begging attitude then tell your people not to pick that form these year let alone apply and come down to.lagos.
Like I earlier said if it was a kenyan than was doing the same you guys would have made it the talk of the century so allow me to do what I know you guys would have done if a true local son of the soil from that resourcesless land, was doing the same.
It our money and we react like this because of you guys absolute hypocrisy and quick ability to bite the hands that feed you. We don't have problem attacking other african countries because they respect and honours the hand that puts food on their table and as well boost their economy, plus building future global acclaimed companies. If you hate nigeria as you guys are showing here why come here anually to collect funds for your startup.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:48am On Jun 14, 2019
TayserMahri:
And the future looks worse for Nigeria because their helpless babies are being infected more than anywhere in the world. One in every 4 babies born with HIV globally is a Nigerian. Combine that with their status as the globe's poverty capital and you get the picture. We're dealing with a megalithic HIV disaster. Too much for one country. In regard to mother-to-child HIV prevention Nigeria stands out for its slow (Tanzania-like) pace grin This despite Bill Gates pouring billions into Nigeria to prevent HIV. Nigerians, why are you trying to prove a HIV point? Everyone else is making progress.
Check your post properly it's archaic.
Report has it that our hiv rate is 1.9m and it's reducing not increasing while yours is 1.4m out of 44m
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:42am On Jun 14, 2019
rvp2018:
Yet another bone-headed rant that is long on polemics and short on facts!

Anyhow, let me try respond to the little that made sense, and mostly offer your beloved doomed country unsolicited advisory pro-bono.

I am not sure why you're excited about Dangote refinery. The Indians and South Koreans already figured out how to cheaply refined oil. Honestly it's no game-changer even in Nigeria.

Yes, it will wipe the incredible shame of Africa biggest Oil exporter being also Africa biggest Importer off your faces. I know the irony is lost on you but hopefully Dangote whose is leveraged to the gills now, doesn't sweat-talk (corrupt) Abuja and bans importation of refined fuel - because you're gonna be picking the tabs at wrong time.

Who builds a refinery now - when all car manufacturers are going electric as early as 2025 and when projection are that by 2040 - Oil will be gone.Honestly if you didn't have so many problems - your first priority would be to prepare for a future without Oil. In kenya we are already nearly there - all our energy (electric) is now on renewable. We are dolling out incentive for people to buy electric cars. Today Min of Finance announced 10% lower duty for anybody who import electric car.

You're late to the party.

Anyway If I was Nigeria president I would prioritize 24-hrs electricity before anything. I cannot imagine the pain you guys have to go through on a daily basis. In Nairobi for the last many months - power has not gone out. In fact today I saw they just completed the first underground cabling --because we want a future where blackouts will make news.

Once you're done with electricity, I would focus on education. Your generation cannot be helped. Nigeria past is gone and it's present is pretty much doomed. You only got your future to think about.

You need to start from the basic. When Kenya emerged from a near similar hole in 2002 - we began from basic - we got every Kid to school. In fact it became such a success - old dying people trekked to school. One such old man was Kimani Magure - who later won awards including a movie made of him.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/images/80205000/jpg/_80205191_80205190.jpg

I think if you focus on those twos - invest all the little money you now got on electricity & education- from your puny budget - you'll start crawling. If you keep focusing on GRANDIOSE projects - little cities that can only host 10K Nigerians or 1B dollar rail that can only transport 400 passengers - the results will be the same.

Trust me in few years the world will be holding a conference on Nigeria if the country will still be around. The conference on how to help Nigeria because you're are gonna drag everyone down with 200M desperately poor people in it.

That is all for now.

With Love,
From Kenya.
Let me attend to some pretty silly thing you wrote out of pain to shield you outburst.
Electric cars : it has been estimated that half of the world's population should have bought into the idea if electric cars by 2045 .so nigeria still has about 25 years to gain from oil and and an additional 2 decades while the whole world start using electric cars.

Ekoatlantic will house : 500,000 people and provide job for 250,000
Centenary city will house up to a million and provide job for about 500,00
Eyimba will house 625,000 people ,.I can't remember how many direct jobs it will create
Orange island will house 14,000 people and provide 10,000 jobs. Let me stop here.
If a smart city that is expected to boost technological atmosphere of the people and improve the economy amongst all other positive thing is not good then I wonder what is good. Even egypt is building a $60bn entirely new smart city outside theit current capital city which has been dubbed "NEW CAIRO CAPITAL" and it's expected to house 5 million people and produce 2 million direct jobs. Countries like yours are still too tender and immature to build such with its debt induced economy that's has too beg china for everything most especially konza

As for electricity zoom.and read that post so we can know how to weigh your lies

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:21am On Jun 14, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
Dude! Please do not cry out your intestines yet, grin grin save it for next year when Dangote's Refinery, the world's biggest single-train facility comes onstream.
You haven't seen anything yet, I swear! You will weep excruciatingly and profusely till you hibernate and retreat into torpor.
Envy, bitterness and hate for Nigeria will only consume you fools......, you will curse God oneday for not depositing any premium mineral resources including oil in that arid, famine ravaged, and inconsequential tiny country. grin grin

It is hysterically lugubrious how you dusty looking, wretched, starving, ematiating and about to die hobgoblins express grave concerns over Nigeria's challenges when Kenya is on a precipice of apocalypse. Is it our fault that we are naturally ahead of your poor country? grin

It is my onus to keep reminding you that Nigeria, the Giant of Africa, is an emerging power that will continue to shape Africa and the world, no amount of wailing by Kenyans can erode Nigeria's innate hegemony in Africa.

Largest economy in Africa is Nigeria
Africa's largest oil producing country, Nigeria
Most populous black nation on planet earth, Nigeria
Richest Black man on earth is a Nigerian, not a naturalized Nigerian grin grin
We are fixing and modernizing our infrastructure while building new smart cities from the scratch simultaneously.
Dude, it might interest you to know that the length and breadth of Nigeria is a Niagara of construction site as we type these now.

Son! I'm sorry, I have a lot to attend to unlike you lazy assholes and goblins so let me stop here.
Do not hesitate to quote me, I would be glad to reply at my convenience and continue to educate you ignoramuses, also make google your companion for more information about the progress of Nigeria, the Giant of Africa.
Bye for now!
Hahaha you sound just like me. Both the way you packaged the long unending insult but yet stated the salient point was just my pattern.
This guys go cry for our hand ooooo.
Naija no dey carry last
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:17am On Jun 14, 2019
rvp2018:
Okay - granted - Abacha spent 13B dollars to build Abuja - where did 983 BILLION DOLLARS GO.

I know a total of $140 billion was stashed abroad by Nigeria rulers.

That still leave with a balance of 850B dollars to explain to us.

Well we know you spend at least 10B annually to import and ran a crazy fuel subsidy - that should roughly take care of 10*56 yrs =560Billion.

And we also know you spend at least 10B to import food - another 560B.

I guess that is how the cookie crumbled. You basically ate and stole all the oil wealth.
Also ask yourself this question " WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH YOUR RESOURCELESS LAND FOR THE PAST 56 YEARS EVEN THOUGH YOU GOT YOUR INDEPENDENCE BEFORE SINGAPORE AND IT'S POPULATION OF 4 MILLION HAS PRODUCE A GDP THAT EVEN YOUR CURRENT IMPOSSIBLE GDP ENVISAGING OF $300B IN 2030 CAN NOT STILL MEASURE UP WITH THEIR CURRENT GDP " Lets not forget that they are also resourcesless with only one waterbody
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:52am On Jun 14, 2019
Stevoh18:
Few Kenyans were facing starvation for a short period, but to you that's all of Kenyans...we have debts because the lenders saw our capabilities of paying them back

75% of you are languishing in poverty, rounding off to the nearest figure Nigerians are generally poor people...no one can lend you anything

Thousands of you are economic refugees in Kenya and millions in other countries, you don't risk dying in deserts and sea for nothing
Blah blah .
I have just dealt with such similar misinformed ignorant rant
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:42am On Jun 14, 2019
theenchanter:
gringringrin Na that 14 volkswagen dey make me laugh pass. grin
You can only imagine his lunatic imaginations
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:41am On Jun 14, 2019
obaaderemi:
Despite fall in oil prices and a "cooked economy" as one bitter angry frustrated soul keeps bleating:

Access Bank Nigeria is the biggest bank in Africa by customer base. tongue

It's assets alone in dollar terms is bigger than Kenya's four biggest banks put together. tongue (cooked economy)

Heck,even Zenith Bank Nigeria assets is bigger than Kenya's first three banks put together. tongue
I wonder why you have to stoop so low as to argue bank worth with them when clearly it is known and only natural for our bank to be ten time larger than their entire banking sector . It's not everything you must argue,sometimes you just allow their stupidity slide cause it doesn't .change the reality.
You can imagine that idiot saying their best bank would soon overtake all our bank aside zenith bank
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:34am On Jun 14, 2019
obaaderemi:
And yet you are here more than anyone else. cheesy You are indeed short of time. Excuses make you look silly.

Are you afraid of us bringing up Kenya's woeful economic data and exposing it further? I smell fear. Don't poo in your pants.I am not interested in tearing apart your economy today.Relax. But don't push.


huh I don't understand. Write when you are not angry. cheesy

You keep forgetting one basic fact. The Nigerian market is the biggest single market in Africa. Based on the fact that agriculture in Africa is still at a backward stage, is it any wonder that Nigeria does not export much food.
Nigeria leads Africa in production of eggs and only second to South Africa in chicken.
Goats---- Nigeria
Rice-- Nigeria
Onions---Nigeria
Cashew---Nigeria
Groundnut.. Nigeria or Senegal huh
Cassava...... Nigeria
Yam.----------Nigeria
Sorghum----Nigeria
Palm Oil------Nigeria or Ghana. huh
Maize........Nigeria or South Africa
Citrus.......... Nigeria
And many more I don't have the energy for right now.
And don't forget: Chicken Shit---- Nigeria grin grin

So,I mean it when I said you would collapse from the effort. Where do you want to start from?
I am glad you didn't fault me on the figures I used for calculating your GDP since they are verifiable like you said. cheesy Thank you.
Abbeg Don't bother yourself. He is angered at how you demeaned their debt induced overcooked gdp and that's why he has resorted in making self imagining claims so he can feel better about his country's gdp and failure to construct a descent sgr that can handle cargoes and not run into losses despite the huge loan gotten from china that will no doubt send them to their early grave. Their poverty ridden low gdp per capita income country is sitting in a time bomb that was fantastically created and fashioned by nature and their corrupt govt with no ounce of sense and pity for its gullible citizens
After all these years he is just a kid throwing tantrums .
Pls let him cry
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo:
rvp2018:
You just need to use common sense -- actually eyes ONLY - see Nigeria pictures - to know it's not 400 or 500B dollar economy.

I mean you can look at 300B dollar economies like Egypt (100M people - not small country) or South Africa or Algeria (one world largest countries - maybe 3 times Nigeria) with incredible resources - and just 270B dollars. Just look at their pictures....and then look at Nigeria pictures.

Don't even look at poverty data or whatever.

And tell me how that can be 400-500B dollar economy would look like, how the cities looks like, infrastructure, name it.

I mean Nigerians when they look at Kenya pictures - their envy is so much- they shout whites & indians because they cannot believe it's african country by Africans - I mean their first reaction in Nairobi Thread by Gavillant was no way kenya was 40B economy (That thread IS older than this).

You cannot fake to be rich - at least not for long.
You must be deceiving yourself if you think that your ever growing rapidly springing up slum capital is great.
Don't mistake our absolute love an openess to the motherland as a compliment.
You are the jealous fellow always crying how ekoatlantic will not succeed and how it's in render. You have to always understand this when making such outrageous, ridiculous, envious statement - that nigeria is not kenyans mate , cos when we set our heart on a project we make sure we execute and finalise that project to completion unlike kenya that gives us failed, highly expensive chinese loan ,not able to carry cargo sgr project. Infact let me make you jealous the more.
Eko atlantic is planning to start construction of 75% of its towers at once going by the conversation RONALD CHAGOURY has been having on social media alongside the newly build residential building for ITB NIGERIA (a manufacturing firm in nigeria that has constructed lots of our skyscrappers as well as other construction firm- the residential camp will use for squatting by these company while they build ekoatlantic ) plus the numerous global forum he has attended to pitch this project .
Infact I thought Microsoft coming to ekoatlantic was only to establish their company (I mean they practically brought about 15 of their team to ekoatlantic from silicon valley) I just found out by a reputable sources that they want to invest and fund "EKO MARINE BUSINESS DISTRICT " which is exactly the same as dubai marina except that the shape is the only difference when viewed from a plane or using a drone.

You must cry that's what you are destined to do.
I gladly await your tears in a few hours when you are up
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:47am On Jun 14, 2019
rvp2018:
What cheap talk. You know when I saw Nigeria GDP figures - I was doubtful - because everything else was OFF- then I took my time - and I figured out I will start with biggest elephant in the room. Agricluture is nearly 1/4 of Nigeria GDP - about 100B dollars (Incredulously one of world HIGHEST) - and so it easy to focus on it - it very simple production figures * prices.

Oil figures are easy - Algeria and Angola produce around the same barrels per day - 2m - and we know it's exported commodity - so easy to verify.

Cocoa - also is easy to verify - you export all the beans.

Now our problem is where do you get the figures for yams, cassava, maize, rice, sorghum, millet, plantains? The figures I have seen are all estimates...not a single precise figure..just WILD ESTIMATES.

Just direct us to where - and then help us with verification.

That is what we do in Kenya - KNBS - does cross-verification. They get data from ministry or agency or board - and they cross-verify.

I am convinced once we "solve" the crop & livestock production figures - we would have discovered the cooking that Yemi Kale does at Nigerian Stats office.
All this long talk does not stop nigeria from being the largest economy in africa with an average nigerian being richer than an average kenyan when you look at the gdp per capita which shows how beneath you are under us.
90 million Nigerians living in extreme poverty is silly . Even a roadside begger in.lagos can earn up to N1,000 in 2 hours which equals more than $3.
The pattern used in arriving at that nonsense was based on lagging economies which in prevalent in our economy and is expected to Change this year. A child born today is counted among that figure as a citizen living below the poverty line as though he should have cashed out money from the uterus.
Gdp per capita is the only reliable key and going by IMF& WORLD BANK YOU GUYS ARE SO POOR AND SHOULD TUCK YOUR HEADS IN SHAME" and please stop parading that false info about you being a $100bn already when world bank and imf has said you would amount to sh10trn =$98bn by the end of this year and nobody is so sure you will eventually arrive at that figure as drought has begun to set in and widen it's horizon across the 500,000kmsq of resourcesless, shamefully less than 10,000km tarred roads, land - and it's even set to intensify greatly next year's which has been predicted to lead to an inevitable famine. You better go and tell your govt to build an ark maybe this time it would be called "KENYA ARK" so you can store foods and accommodate the doomed souls on your many years of famine soon to come. How I honestly wish I would see how great kenya has become but unfortunately the feeds and result I am getting online has disuaded that innocent wish. Come 2025 you are going into neocolonialism with your lives, future and destiny at the mercy of your chinese masters( I hope you.learn martial art during these horrible vicissitudes which you most likely are not going to come out from until at least 2040 that's if your govt play their cards well else it might extend till 2080 by then you'ld be long gone with your kid approaching 30 years while he/she still pays for your govt gullible stupid act which allowed himself to be used as a pawn in the chinese game )
You had better listen to your brother cossano cos as he once said nigeria economy is one of the world most informal economies and in reality should be in trillion not the less than three figure before the 9 zeros that makes up a billion that you guys are still struggling with even though it is largely influenced by debt.
You know I try my very best to accommodate and tolerate you silly dreams of being a great and progressive nation with the dream of being africa largest economy but most times I can't help but revolt against that impossible imagination going by what's in ground and what nature as alinged your way as you step into trying years- and of course all thanks to your govt predecessor for not heeding the warning of these early predicted natural disasters and now you have to pay for each and every one of those years to come starting from next year.

No matter how you try to argue about the obvious the following still remains fact
(1): An average Nigerian is richer than an average kenyan, all thanks to our Gdp per capita
(2): 2.4 million turkanans are starving and we have not even included the pokot and the rest tribes that I cannot remember simply because they all have some weird unpronounceable names
(3 ) : Somalians are closing in on your borders and it only a matter of time before they gain absolute control on your resourceless land
(4 ) : alsaahab are currently operating in your capital - a place that holds more than 50% of your wealth and debt as well as international investment which apparently is your country most valued location

Cry like a bitch if you want NIGERIA IS GREATER THAN KENYAN. The only african country that has impressed me so far and will rival with nigeria in the future is egypt, and even at that I will say it's by a long shot. You need to see what these two giants are planning for the future. SA will be so benched and dwarf by egypt once egypt vision starts coming on stream soon enough .
So many laudable project .wait next year while we commission so many project that would make you cry like the bitch you are. In the meantime we are going gold next year the amount of investors that as showed interest so far has been amazing . I will kill you with progress until you die of unccessary hate and envy

And please don't sing emotions for me, cos I was actually smiling devilishly while I arranged your countries problem before you so you can be buzzed back into reality
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:53am On Jun 14, 2019
Jonraid:
It's not your money still,if Tony wants he could wish not to support Kenyans, right? No one has forced him at gunpoint,he can spend his money the way he wants to.Leave him out of this!
All this talk is it for me to stop analyzing the parasitic begging attitude that follows every Kenyan from birth.
Tony holds the program every year in lagos and puts his form online . Who told you guys to register and transport yourself down to lagos so you can commence your usual begging attitude which something you are committed to continue this year.
@bolded that is not the case but rather it would have been the talk of the century if it was a kenyan doing the same thing, so allow me boast on tony's wealth - it's our money not your money go and borrow from china as usual and leave us to enjoy our money " world renowned beggars"
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:30am On Jun 13, 2019
Jonraid:
It's not your money its Tony's! grin grin grin
Yes and he is a nigerian. Be thankful that I am too tired to write much but I will try summarizing it by saying what has your country or its rich men done for africa?
We believe it's our duty to help any african country in need and that why we sleep with the problems of the continent on our back.these giant has saved Africa from the deadly ebola virus and has help so many african countries financially , materially and even military. You guys are becoming a dead weight and we might not fund your rude ungrateful asses this year

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:23am On Jun 13, 2019
rvp2018:
[b]I don't hate Nigeria. I hate it's retrogressive citizens and leadership. I admire countries like Ghana, Rwanda, Botswana, South Africa and Namibia - who are progressing. You can add Kenya & even Ethiopia to that list. You pick any indicator of progress - you see those 5 or so countries always topping it in SSA - they are moving slowly to middle and developed world status. Their citizen are enjoying higher and higher quality of life. The people in those countries are more hopeful and optimistic than ever. They are not capsizing in Mediterranean seas trying to escape their country.

As for Dangote - he clearly has Nigeria in his pocket - and he is just tightening the grip - with oil & fertilizer refinery. The margins he makes from his cement company is crazy. He is obviously part of the Abuja protected businesses that Nigeria have to endure via the so called "Banned Imports". I bet his first business when he get refinery working is to lobby Abuja to ban importation of refined fuels - so he can do what he does - monopolize the market and canabalize the citizens.

I hope one day you get to ride in Dangote jet. It more likely to happen that seeing any of Nigerian big plans in renders off grounds - big dreams - big plans - zero implementation - or at best very very slow implementation.

I mean we have 8B dollar steel mill that has rusted to the ground before it produce 1 billet of steel.

You cannot engage in false hope like Samrobo. You got to face the reality. Your cannot move forward with gov budget that TINY.[/s]
I see you are still crying, dint worry I will be back with more progressive project grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 12:18am On Jun 13, 2019
rvp2018:
All dreams in big plans, renderes, in papers, in software are valid. Keep dream on. But Nigeria will not amount to much until it wakes up, folds her sleeves and actually actualize those dreams - by making it happen. For now hope springs eternal.

Most importantly continue praying for OIL price to keep up because without it poverty will move from 70% to 90% pretty soon.
I can see that you are so depressed that you quoted the wrong post. Are you blind to call a picture of Victoria island renders.
Well you see your hate will not help your life. It's because of the likes of you that I dug through the internet until I found a video because if it has been a picture you would say it is photoshopped.
I know you hate seen things like this cause they can be so intimidating -but I am sorry that Is what it is.I have not even updated you our latest $16bn in our oil sector, nigeria lng train 7, Greater port city, ibom deepseaport, ibaka deepseaport, badagry deepseaport, and many more, you are crying how much more I tell you that very soon the first residential condos at centenary city will be ready- by then you will hang yourself and die.Shame on you .envious goat.
I will kill you with update on progressive project not that failure sgr that can't perform primary function of cargo transport and accommodation despite huge borrowing which as led to debt crisis and no doubt neocolonialism

As for oil enjoy what the world is saying

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:45am On Jun 12, 2019
Lagos environs and newly office spaces available

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:02am On Jun 12, 2019
I personally call this the "wakanda of africa" cause it more like fantasy than reality even though it actually a reality.okay so I will be doing it like this for a better understanding of the plan of this magnificent city, so engineers in the house study the plan in the first video which is what the city would look like and then watch the second video which is an updated video on the progress of the city from August 2018, that way you can relate both videos and understand the city concept.Anyway engineers from kenya you are invited please.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5bocQV0rTo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1fMlIp7cCg

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:46am On Jun 12, 2019
Hahaha our lekki dear sea port will be completed this year and we will start enjoying it next year. Enjoy that lekki free trade zone video and it's progress grin




How Lekki Port will boost economy
by Babatunde Ayankunle 1 month ago
Lekki Port
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With the financial muscle of the China Development Bank (CDB) behind it, the Lekki Port in Lagos is set for smooth sailing. When completed, an estimated 170,000 direct and indirect jobs will be created there. Besides, about $361 billion will be realised during the 45-year concession, including over $201 billion in taxes to the Federal and state governments, writes MUYIWA LUCAS.

The Lekki Deep Sea Port in Lagos Free Trade Zone on completion will boost the nation’s maritime trade in addition to lifting its ranking in port development globally. It will also provide an estimated 170,000 direct and indirect jobs beside helping to boost the Gross Domestice Product (GDP).


With the huge economic potential of the port, which will be among the top ports on the continent, the future of maritime in Nigeria is rosy. The port will host three container berths, one dry bulk berth and three liquid berths with a draught of 16.5 metres that will take larger vessels.

Lekki port will boost the nation’s port system, which lags behind the likes of Singapore, which ranks as one of the world’s leading maritime capitals with seven per cent of its Gross Domestic Product (GDP) from maritime, and South Africa, which has a port system comparable to those of developed economies in sophistication, regulation and technology; hence the widespread inefficiencies in the region.

Nigerian ports are rated among the most expensive in the world in terms of doing business. This is due to a combination of several factors, including poor infrastructure, inefficiency and corruption. The Lekki port on completion will change the narrative of Nigerian maritime.

Stakeholders have, over the years, insisted that the sector has remained largely untapped, pegging the potential from the sector at less than five per cent. Though there has been several attempts to rejuvenate the sector by successive administrations to meet global standard, the industry is still faced with many challenges, which include inadequate financing, deficit in maritime/port infrastructure, inefficiencies in terminal operations, lack of transparency and sharp practices. In the whole sector, the ports remain the biggest goldmine that can impact greatly on the economy.

Realising these inadequacies and determined to make a change, the Federal Government, in 2000, came out with policies that led to far-reaching reforms in the sector. These policies were rooted in the economic objectives of opening up space to increase the participation of private investment and initiative in the economy, thereby promoting a public-private sector-led economic growth.

As the economy continues to grow, trade volumes rose and the dependency of the economy on the ports, especially the Lagos ports of Apapa and Tin Can Island, which accounts for 85 percent of cargo traffic, became too heavy.

This led to the idea of a plan that would see to the development of Greenfield ports along Nigeria’s 853 kilometre coastline to match the country’s trade demand. One of these is the development of a deep seaport in Lekki-Epe area of Lagos State, known as Lekki Port.

Under the arrangement, an International Consortium-Lekki Port Investment Holding Inc. (Tolaram Group) holds a 75 per cent equity, while the Federal Government through Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) and the Lagos State Government, shares the remaining equity at five and 20 per cent.

The project, being executed on a Build-Own-Operate-Transfer (BOOT) basis, under a 45-year concession, has the NPA as its port regulator. This arrangement, stakeholders say, will ensure that adequate legal and regulatory framework, as well as incentives, would be put in place in line with the concession agreement to avoid inconsistency and policy shifts.

The Lagos State Government has reiterated its commitment to play a key role in facilitating the ancillary works vital to the success of the port, such as enhancement of road infrastructure connections to the hinterland. With this, the chaotic situation in the Lagos ports, which has led to huge delays in clearing of goods from the ports and the parlous state of the port roads along the axis, will not be repeated in the Lekki Port.

According to the Chief Financial Officer (CFO), Lekki Port Investment Holding Inc., Binay Saraf, one of the unique features of the new facility, is that it would cover a large area, close to 90 hectares, within the Lagos Free Trade Zone.

Besides, it will have a draught capacity of 16.5 metres. With this, the country will be able to accommodate and berth the biggest vessels, which is impossible at the moment, due to draught constraints. At 12.5metres, Apapa port has the deepest draught in the country and Cotonu port, in the Republic of Benin, has 16m- draught capacity.

Saraf further revealed that the facility would be equipped with the latest super Post-Panamax Ship-to- Shore cranes and RTG cranes, which ensures it will be a modern efficient facility. These infrastructure will guarantee that the initial target of 1.5 million 20-foot equivalent units (TEU) container capacity yearly, expected to hit 4.7 million TEUs, will make Lekki Port the hub destination for many shipping lines in the West African markets, which will combine their destination calls to Nigeria with transshipments.

With these, Saraf is convinced that Lekki Port is positioned to serve as the gateway for the country and the surrounding West African region because the port will offer an opportunity to enter the rapidly- growing market and boosting the neighbouring economy.

Saraf further explained that the development of the Lekki Port would be in phases to meet the burgeoning trade coming from within and outside the country. “It is estimated that about 170,000 direct and indirect jobs will be generating approximately $361 billion during the concession, including over $201 billion in tax revenue to both the state and Federal governments,” he revealed.

A key feature of modern port is a world-class container terminal. To this end, Lekki Port has signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with CMA CGM Group, a world leader in maritime transport, to operate its container terminal.

As the container terminal operator, CMA CGM, through its subsidiary CMA Terminals, will be responsible for marketing, operations and maintenance of the container terminal. He said with the latest technology in container’s screening and processing, the port will deliver smooth and efficient movement of goods to and from the site once the commercial activities begin in 2020 to ensure clearing of goods within 48 hours.

Determined to deliver a world-class port facility, the promoter has also engaged two global companies, China Harbour Engineering Company Limited (CHEC) and The Louis Berger Group. While CHEC, the engineering and construction arm of China Construction and Communication Company, was appointed as the Engineering, Procurement and Construction (EPC) contractor, The Louis Berger Group, United States, one of the largest multi-disciplinary infrastructure consulting firm in the world, was hired as the project’s management consultant. Notably, China Harbour would soon have equity participation in the project, with a certain percentage to be infused soon.

“It is interesting to note that since the project berthed, the Federal Government has found it worthy to share in the success story. In several fora, it has continued to list the project as one that is in line with its Economic Recovery Growth Plan (ERGP), emphasising that it supports game-changing infrastructure projects directed at making an impact on trade and commerce in the country,” Saraf said.

At the flag-off of the project last year, President Muhammadu Buhari, represented by Vice President Yemi Osinbajo, declared the Federal Government’s commitment to its success, noting its enormous economic benefits. And in line with this, the Federal Government recently directed the Nigerian Railway Corporation (NRC), through the Federal Ministry of Transportation, to link all the seaports, including Lekki Port, to railway as possible shortest.

Upon the completion of Lekki Deep Sea project, Nigeria can stand shoulder high in the league of globally respected maritime capitals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvNaWsGZH3E
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:35am On Jun 12, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
Ogbeni, Kenya is like a short folk who must make noise so that others can see them. Ask yourselve why short people talk a lot.
Kenya is just too tiny for Nigeria.
I wish I could meet the stewpid creature that created this thread comparing that tiny, hungry and starving people home with Nigeria, the Giant of Africa.
Hahahaha I am still coming with more (iibc).
Getting news on iibc is really hard.those guys has done a pretty good job in concealing the project from the media so it would be like a surprise to the world.
I got news from a reputable source that kinda works there he said they have finished land reclamation and are 75% done with all the roads and bridges in the city.
He said the minute you enter the city you must submit evert digital gadget so you dont take images of the city out.

It will be a surprise to the world when this is completed. Trust me.
I will be back with a video of the little progress they managed to put on the internet
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:50am On Jun 12, 2019
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:30am On Jun 12, 2019
gallivant:
You are talking to yourself, do you know that?
The gallivanting thing has started
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:28am On Jun 12, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
we help them na wahala we no help still wahala. Na envy and bitterness go kee these ugly and starving little indians
The thing just taya me

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