₦airaland Forum

Splashme:
It's a shame that Amaechi could run to court
in a desperate attempt to block probe

That's why APC is the biggest scam Nigerians have ever bought into.

They want to probe others and yet, they don't want to be probed what a deceitful party

truthman2012:
What does he want to say in the open debate that cannot be posted here? Looking for somebody to kill to receive al-liar reward.

al-liar reward ?


Menh no kill me with laff o

lexiconkabir:
@scholar8200, firstly i have to express how highly disappointed i am in you, you claimed paul was circumcised i asked you to proof it, you could not, thats BTW.(1) the verses you stated clearly shows that "the spirit is a human prophet" for instance 1john4:1-3 which spirit are you asked to test if it is of God? can you test a spirit? no! you can only test a man if he is truely God's sent...............(2) the second verse you gave still shows that a spirit is a man, note that word EVERY[which means they are many "spirits"(human prophets)], is the "holyghost" more than 1? "spirit" in the new testament means a human prophet. spirit of antichrist simply means a fake human prophet against christ! why will jesus use HE(meaning a man not a spirit literally) is the paraclete(comforter, advocate)? dont make illogical assumptions just to buttress your points. i think you ignored my point where i said with prove that that there is NO greek word for "GHOST"

Kabiru check your heart and stop being pervert !!!

Your first point about the Spirit being reffered to as "human prophet" is not only laughable but ridiculous and unscrupulous.

So u are driving at getting us convinced that ur Prophet is Paraclete ( Advocate/Comforter) Pneuma( Spirit ) Jesus spoke about according to ur post i read somewhere on this thread? Funny

So Spirit can marry wives, have children, sex slaves with endless sexual activities, and eventually died and buried like your Prophet?

Hahahahahaha make una help me laugh o Lexiconkabir say Spirit (Pneuma) mean Prophet!!!

I think u will have to explain what makes Prophet a Prophet if not the "SPIRIT in him" be it EVIL which makes him false Prophet or GOOD which makes him true Prophet?

But on a more serious note, John was reffering to the spirit of antichrist that operate through People not the prophets as mortal men.

Just imagine where Jesus reffered to Peter as Satan in Matt 16:22-23, does it mean Peter was the Satan Jesus meant? NO, it was the spirit which tried to speak through Peter and that's Satan.

Meanwhile i will respond to ur post where u called Paul a liar, Rom3:7 later. But before then read Romans 3: 5-8 if u are not bias u will know that Paul was answering his critics by affirming that God will not spare anyone who promotes God's rightousness in an unrighteous way, that if God allows that, then how will he judge the world vs 5&6. Pls read NIV for more understanding......................

lexiconkabir:
@sofman, (1)stop quoting what they(paul, luke, mark etc) said about him(jesus) over 300year later after his(jesus) departure and quote what he(jesus) said himself...............(2)most especially, stop quoting paul the liar, that sees nothing wrong with lying just to bring people(like you) into his religion, same paul that said anyone that dies on the cross is an accursed of God, whereas he still said "according to my" gospel, christ died on the cross, do you believe christ to be an accursed of God?(astagfirulloh).............(3)because he did signs and wonders does not make him God, he himself always make it known that it is not by his power but by the power of his God(father).............(4)in nutshell, christians are being deceived mostly by paul the liar.

Bros, why are u so puffed up about what u know noting about?

I want to answer the falsehood u've been going about spreading almost everywhere in religious section that Paul called Jesus the ACCURSED of God.

Paul never called Jesus the accursed of God in Gala 3:13 but rather, was making reference to Deut 21:23 to explain what Christ suffered to redeem us.

Or don't u see the clause, FOR it is "WRITTEN" cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree Galatians 3:13b?

Why do u have to lie so much against an innocent man just bcs u want to ridicule the Christian faith in order to promote your religion?

I think it's unfair !!!


And if i may ask why do Muslims hate Paul so much, is it bcs God has used him to expose the spirit of antichrist which is the spirit of Islam even before it arrival?

Brother u are fighting a battle too big for u, even your Prophet in his lifetime could not do it.

Pls sir, instead of spending endless time on NAIRA LAND to fight lost cause why not help us preach to your Brothers who are busy killing and maiming the innocent people in the name of Islam all over the world to repent. I think they are the people who need ur sermon most not we!!!

No offense pls!!!

Teekrayne:
............ Well, we are all learning.... I don't mean to denigrate any religion here. The choice is yours. You can choose to serve anything you feel like. I only told you what I know and it was not intended to defame or bring down any religion.....

No wahala sir.


Shalom !!!

lexiconkabir:
@malvisguy212, injeel is the gospel of jesus, when i say gospel, i mean the statements jesus himself made through the inspiration from God, not what they(paul, luke, peter, john, etc) said about him, and the main mission was to preach the oneness of God, and thats what we(muslims) are asked to follow. the torah is the law of moses which they said about him(jesus) that he abrogated it, whereas he said if you want to be saved keep the law of moses, and what was the main objective of law of moses? the oneness of God, and thats what we follow. jesus never made mention of dying on the cross for your salvation but you should keep the law of moses. Jesus said "many will come to me on that day saying lord lord, did we not prophesied in your name, in your name we did mighty works, cast out demons, and i will say to them get away from me, i dont know you, you that practiced LAWLESSNESS", who calls jesus lord lord? The christians, you practice lawlessness, you delude yourselves with "the grace" and shy away from laws.

Hahahahahaha

That's Muslims for u, they attack everything attackable to promote Islam, they manipulate scriptures like Satan himself.

* Did Jesus say "All" or "Many" in the scripture u quoted?

Does the Bible put the reason of their rejection by Jesus on the basis of calling him "Lord" or by not doing the "will" of his Father?
I will advise u to stop fighting a lost battle that even your prophet and many great Islamic icons fought hard to win but could not.

No matter how hard u and your likes try to attack the Bible, it still remain the most read book on this planet and the gospel is till being preached and hundred of thousands are accepting the good news of the kingdom.

BTW: Is the Christianity only the religion on earth, why are u people so obsessed about it, are there no others religions?

Teekrayne:
............ Access them individually to know who is doing it right or wrong? Noted!...... How come Jehovah Witness, Deeper Lifers, Catholic churches do not use musical instruments? Could we say they read a different version of the bible which is supposed to pass one message across to all Christians

Brother pls, make sure u always do your research properly before u come to a forum like this for discussion!!!

You know why?

JW, Deeper life and Catholic use musical instruments.
Pls get your facts right, go to JW.org and download their hymns.


Meanwhile @ concerning the way they prayed in the Bible:

I know your arguement is that some people prayed with their faces on the ground?

Good, the question is did they do so according to divine injunction bidding on them that they must worship God that way? The answer is NO.

It will be very hypocritical of us to concentrate on their "positioning" while living aside other ritualistic aspects that constitute the completeness of their worship as far as OT worship is concern.

So for u to consentrate only on " they fell with their faces on the ground" as a mode of worship in the Bible and living behind the complete pattern and ordinances that accompanied entirety of their worship like singing "praises" to God and other ritualstic aspects, is not only half-baked but malicious and misleading, maybe u are doing that to justify the Islamic way of worship but i tell u, it's like comparing white and black, they have no similarity!!!

Pls go and study the book of exodus and numbers.

Concerning NT worship, Jesus told us clearly how to worship God.

John 4:23-24, But the hour cometh, and NOW is, when the true worshipers shall worship the father in "spirit" and in truth: for the father seeketh such to worship Him.
For God is a spirit: and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.

For the use of musical instruments and singing pls read Psalm 100, 150, Rev 14: 2-3.

Note: If your are not yet satisfied, then u will have to tell us where God/Jesus in the Bible specifically passed an injunction that we should worship/pray, "falling down with our faces on the ground.

Remain blessed bro!!!

dolphinheart:
Bro, seems you are Mixing up ur questions o,question 3 and 4 as asked by you are totally different. and it seems you did not read my reply on singing and use of instrument as it is done then and today.

How can a congregation invite celebrity? To come and do what? To help them sing?
If you have read my post, you would have seen the words humility and modesty, words that a Christian must exhibit in all things, even when singing praise Bro, you do not know how I worship and praise my God, you should not have used the word " you guys".

Bros, I've diligently followed u, and i must commend u that u've done more than enough for these people most especially Teekrayne but he ( they ) are just bent on repeating the old question that has been answer severally to justify their own ways of worship which were pre-islamic pagan practices.

Pls sir, since he insists that we are not worshiping the right way that we must prostrate with our faces on the ground , ask him to show us where in the Bible Jesus specifically ask us to do so, or better still he should show us how Jesus ask us to worship God in the Bible, if he cannot , then i will suggest u forget about the guy.

God bless u sir!!!

PassingShot:
Shameless man. Why not watch and see?

Has PMB said he was looking for saints?

Btw, most Nigerians approve of how PMB is governing. Let the unhappy wailers do the needful.

Brainwashed Zombie, who are the most nigerians that approved how PMB run his ONE-MAN squad government

If u think your Buhari or any leader should be left without criticsm bcs of your support for such a leader, you are the fool of all fools, cause it's kids and inexperienced that behave in such manner and that has been the hallmark of all APC supporters.
They don't want Buhari criticised even if it is constructive and will make him a better leader.

That's what u see when majority of your supporters are fanatics and not patriots !!!

Yes, but u can meddle in political affairs of the nation, now that you have gotten rid of your number one enemy ?

The end is near, God help us !!!

Annunaki:
Stop talking rubbish, the only religion that endorses that kind of madness is islam.

gbam !!!

ZKOSOSO:
The Devil has a religion.
Killing
Stealing
Destruction
Hating infidels
Yanshing little girls
Deceptions Al-taqiya
.....are all allowed!!

Yanshing little girls ?



Mehn u bad gan o

I'm hearing this kind of thing for the first time in my life.

Constitution should be suspended for buhari to operate

That man needs to be examine!!!

The dumbest suggestion so far

Yes the church has it blame no doubt about it, but the problem of Nigeria is 80% structural & foundational !!!

And i must commend this Man of God for some bitter truths he pointed out, that's one things i love about Christianity.
U can boldly come out to criticise without the fear of being hunted, that's the reason i always say that " any religion that is too defensive," that u cannot openly criticise is not worthy to exist."

Truely some nigerian Pastors and members are quite guilty of these things in the OP, so as Christians we have to change b4 we can change our world, i wish my muslim Brothers will also learn from this, infact we should be bold enough to condemn our religious leaders who aren't teaching us the right things so that collectively we can make our nation great again.

Rilwayne001:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/palestinian-toddler-burnt-alive-after-masked-jewish-extremists-target-home-in-arson-attack-10429165.html

[size=15pt] Ali Saad: Father of 18-month-old toddler burnt alive by 'Jewish extremists' dies after attempting to rescue his son. [/size]


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/ali-saad-father-of-18monthold-toddler-burnt-alive-by-jewish-extremists-dies-after-attempting-to-rescue-son-in-firebomb-attack-10446481.html

Maybe this's what u wanted to say, an Islamic terrorist burn a Palestinian toddler? Bcs the last time i checked, " all terrorists are Muslims."

Anyway that's too bad, may the Lord punish those behind the barbaric act, be it Jews or whatever

exlinkleads:
The senators, in an advertorial said although it support the moves by the president to eradicate corruption on Nigeria, “the caucus is not happy with the current trend that seems to suggest that the war against corruption is selective and targeted at PDP stalwarts and states.

The current war lacks transparency, fairness to all and appears to be aimed at political adversaries. It is on this ground that we condemn in particular what is happening in Akwa Ibom, Rivers and Abia state where election umpires are daily arrested, their families and associates hounded , and judicial officers involved in election tribunals intimidated and questioned using trumped up petitions bordering on corruption. Yet these officials were part of the 2015 elections that produced President Buhari an election adjudged to be generally free and fair by the international community.”

The members of the upper legislative chamber also spoke on the current crisis rocking the national headquarters of the party.

“May we use this medium to urge the staff of the PDP Secretariat to sheath their sword and to stop externalize internal matters in their working environment. As major stakeholders, we commend the efforts of the NWC of our great party the PDP and hereby pass a vote of confidence in the NWC under the leadership of the of the Ag National Chairman, Prince Uche Secondus. We also salute the leadership PDP board of trustee (BOT) Dr Bello Haliru Mohammed and the dedication of our teaming supporters across Nigeria. We call for a speedy resolution of the disagreement between the secretarial workers and the management.”

Meanwhile, Workers of Nigeria’s opposition party, Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) has offered an appology to the party’s National Working Committee (NWC) following a crisis that hit the party after the party leadership directed workers of the party to get a party membership clearance from their respective state chairmen. See more on http://www.exlinklodge.com/2015/08/pdp-senators-blast-buhari-for-selective.html











cc lalasticlala seun ishilove

Even the Blind know this except his Zombie fool'owers , that buhari is carrying out selective and witch-hunting anti-corruption fight!!!

#buhari is not a LEADER but a RULER!!!

damosthottest:
CORRUPTION WAR: PROBE YOUR ELECTION SPONSORS FIRST, FAYOSE TELLS BUHARI


The Ekiti State Governor, Mr. Ayodele Fayose, has asked President Muhammadu Buhari to start his anti-corruption fight by probing those that sponsored his election to reveal their sources of income.

Fayose said, “Some of those who sponsored the President’s election have not done any other jobs apart from holding public offices. Yet, they provided private jets and funds with which the President campaigned across the length and breadth of Nigeria. He should let Nigerians know where they got money to buy private jets and the several billions of naira spent on his election.

“No one sits with corruption to fight corruption because as it is today, President Buhari is sitting among corrupt people and he must first extricate himself from the comity of corruption”.

Fayose, who spoke through his Special Assistant on Public Communications and New Media, Lere Olayinka, on Wednesday took a swipe at the Federal Government anti-corruption drive, describing it as mere noise-making, witch-hunt and diversionary tactic to hoodwink the public into overlooking the seeming failure of the government to deliver on its electoral promises.

The governor said, “If President Mohammadu Buhari knows exactly where the stolen funds are kept and who looted the funds, he does not need all these public announcements. Rather, he should make public names of the looters and bring back the purported stolen funds, location of which he has identified. It is when he is able to bring back the money that he should make announcements of recovered funds.

“You don’t announce a process to the public; rather, you announce the results because that is what is of interest to the people. It is like you are announcing that you know where armed robbers reside, won’t they change their location?

“What the All Progressives Congress spin-doctors and their collaborators in the Presidency are doing is simple. It is such that when there is nothing to tell the people as per the rising Boko Haram attacks, dollar and other foreign currencies exchange rates, petrol pump price and other seeming failed promises of the APC Federal Government, they will accuse former President Goodluck Jonathan and his men of corruption, insult Peoples Democratic Party and make noise about fighting corruption.”

He said President Buhari and his men should know that Nigeria of today is different from that of 1983 and that unlike 1983, nothing could prevent them from asking questions.

“Mr. President and his men should know that these planned efforts to brand PDP as a party of corrupt people and suppress the giant strides of the Jonathan administration won’t work because Nigerians know that APC is peopled with more corrupt people and the President must treat the issue of corruption without looking at political parties.”


Source; http://www.gossipmill.com/2015/08/corruption-war-probe-your-election-sponsors-first-fayose-tells-buhari/

Thanks Mr Fayose!!!

But his Zombie fool'ollowers will not see anything wrong in this, the only answer they have in their bigoted memories is to call u " a wailing wailer."

Bunch of Zombies

Yes, we all know that Baba Buhari is only fighting and victimizing his perceived & preconceived enemies through his anti-corruption campaign, noting more, noting else.

Those who witnessed the first time he ruled Nigeria know who he truely is. Even if his zombie followers will not want to accept the reality that buhari is not a LEADER but a RULER, the fact still remain this same.

The only thing that will vindicate him is to first probe those first class looters/thieves that are around him. I.e. Bola Tinubu, Amechi, Atiku, El Rufai etc.

He's been accused severally by the River state govt of how he's been shielding Amechi from been investigated by the anti- graft agencies.
Infact the news was still on love fm97.7 today on 12pm news.

So Fayose is very right, for us to take him serious, he should start his anti-corruption campaign from those who are around him first, afterall they say CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME!!!!

Enki40:
Though, this is contradictory to his earlier statement on this issue. I'm all for a better and greater Nigeria.


www.punchng.com/news/i-wont-grant-amnesty-to-boko-haram-buhari/


www.thebreakingtimes.com/buhari-approves-amnesty-for-boko-haram/

I'm for the progress of Nigeria. So, if President Buhari has come to realize that granting amnesty to the Boko Haram Islamic Terrorists will stop this menace and massacre, then it's welcome. We all should be working toward Peace, Love, Unity and Progress for a better and greater Nigeria if we truly have Nigeria at heart.

I don't think u understand the gravity of what u are saying !!!

Give a terror group with deadly religious ideology amnesty

What about those who lost their lives or loved ones to their onslaught

What happens to them?

The news had better not be true, cause if it is, noting in this world will convince again that buhari knows noting about bokoharam.

This news had better been a joke !!!
If not...................

Haleluyah !!!
But u will do well if u can attach the pics.

Berrypie:
I think the name should have that title. As for the structure, I doubt it is as old. I have see the building severally, I don't think it is what was there in the beginning.

It was rebuilt.

fxskye:
Obviously you are not a Muslim.......The bold part of your comment reveals that.

Allah (God) is ONLY our lord and saviour....and NOT Muhammad. But Muhammad is TRULY messanger of God (Allah)

And u think the guy gives a damn about your Allah and his prophet

Wake up guy, na mock the guy dey mock nna !!!!

Did someone notice that the price tag for 9yrs old girl is higher?
Hmm, Aisha the wife of their prophet comes to mind

ISLAM

lexiconkabir:
@samunique, even if the word trinity is not in the bible, the concept is undeniably there, in mattew 28:19 you were instructed to baptize in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy ghost,
2corithians 13:13-14 paul talks of the
grace of Jesus, love of God and the
communion of the holy spirit, confirming that they 3 distinct beings, 1john 5:7 calls
the father, the word and the spirit as three distinct witnesses and still says the "three are one"(contradiction in the same verse), lol, i asked for the word christianity and you came up with rubbish arithmetic,christ+ianity=christianity, now your homework is to find christianity in the bible for me, then we can continue....

Good !
U agreed the word trinity is not in the Bible, however the concept does appear?

Yes i agree too, and that's what make me a Christian.
I believe in Jehovah the only true God, His Son Jesus Christ whom He sent to redeem the world, John 17:3 "read" and the Holy Spirit ( God"s own Spirit ) whom He sent to help believers after the ascension of Yeshua and i can assure that He is in me right now as i type, very real. And u can't understand this until u give u life to Christ bcs it's the right reserved for the children only not for slaves!!!

Meanwhile, i was once a slave like u and could not understand, i even argued more than u do until i joined the fold of the heirs of salvation.

So don't bother urself cause the right is exclusively reserved for the Children exept u are will to join the heirs of salvation?

Lastly, u agree that Christ + ianity = Christianity, which means Christianity came out/ named from/after the word CHRIST, so what evidence do u need?
Is the word Christ not in the Bible?

Don't u know, Christian means Christ-like
Then Christianity means, " the practices/religion of those who follow Christ?

lexiconkabir:
i am happy that you believe muhammad preached the oneness of Allah, muhammad just like the prophets before him preached the oneness of Allah. christianity is based on the believe on the trinity(some christians deny it), now if that is the case, do you still think christianity is a monotheistic religion? isnt it funny that the word(religion) CHRISTIANITY is not in the bible just like the way the religion ISLAM is in the quran? bro this is reality not sentiments.

Manipulating as usual, that's how Satan operates !!!

1. Show me where the word TRINITY is in the bible ?

Or maybe i should help u here, that Trinity is a theological term used to describe the unity of the God the Father, Son and the Holy spirit, the doctorine and term which not all Christians agree with.

But the fact still remain that, Yahweh has a Son, Yeshua, and also spirit, which is Holy Spirit. This is the dept of God Islam prophet and Muslims cannot understand and they will never.

This mystery is only understood by the children not slaves like u.
I was once could not understand this when i was a slave like u until i become a child of God!!!

2. U said Christianity is not in the Bible?
Another blunder yet again and again

Let me give you a bit of home work here.

Christ+ ians= ?

Christ+ianity=?

When u answer this simple maths, then we can continue from there.

lexiconkabir:
bro, i believe you dont speak arabic, ilah is god and Allah is God, really? you believe in one God?

I understand u perfectly.

But the question is still, is God a name or title?

And what do u mean by your last question, was the doctrine/religion of ONESS of God started by muhammed?

Is Christianity not a monotheistic religion?

Pls go do your research well and forget about your Islamic sentiments about Christianity.

lexiconkabir:
@kasend if the christian arabs that do not speak english refer to God as Allah, then your thread is as good as a wrist watch that cannot tell time, which implies, your thread is useless.

You just shut yourself at the foot!!!

If the Arab Christians call Allah God, is God a name ? Do u even realise that so many deities are called "god" but to us Christians we have only one God and He has a name Yahweh, The LORD is ONE.

So if Allah means god, it's still a title, a generic name which could be used for any deity.

I.e. god of iron, god of thunder etc.

The question is, what distinguish your God/god from these deities who are not the true God the Creator of heaven and the earth, because they also bear the title "gods"?

Demmzy15:
I perfectly understand you, Yahweh is what God said you should call in the Bible. But in Islam he has many names in which reaches 99, he gave himself this names. Christianity is different from Islam, you have no right to tell me Allah is not his name since I don't have any right to criticise the name Yahweh. Stop imposing your ideologies on others. Just as God called himself Yahweh in the Bible, he also did the same in the Qur'an. You can't say because we don't agree with you then we're wrong. That's nonsense.

No brother, I'm not imposing my ideology on you neither do i condemn your religion.

I was just making u understand the point raised @OP that Allah is a title used by both Arab muslims and Christians for God, which wouldn't have been so if it is his real name bcs Christianity and Islam are not the same.

Allah is just a title like the English word GOD, yoruba, Olorun.

I was expecting u to come up with something better than this.

All the same, thanks.

Shalom Brother!!!

@OP.
God bless you, more grace to u sir.

Demmzy15:
See pot calling kettle black, indomie brain, what's your stress with Islam's way of calling God?! Must we follow your way, Allah has other names which reaches up to 99. Better face front o

But they are all still TITLES not his real name.

Just as Christian GOD has many titles, but His real name is YHWH, Yahweh , 'yah' "Jah" Jehovah which He revealed to moses . My name is Yahweh. Exodus 6:3.

Even Abraham did not know Him by His real name, he knew Him only as Elohim And Adonai , meaning the Lord God Almighty, which is also generic.

So try to understand the point raised in the OP, that Allah is no name, it's just a title like when one mentions Elohim or Adonai .