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chic2pimp:
How so? . I'll say it again save for Stam,Sandro,Maldini,Hierro and Desaily. Lemme also add Montero,Thuram and Canna onto that list, Kuffour had a better season than the rest of em. All in all, give or take sammy was in the top 15

He won't be in the top 40.
Thomas Linke(his team-mate) was better than him in 1999.

kay_pumpin:
Lucky?How so?that team was efficient abeg.

Efficiency ma backside.
They won via penalty shoot-out(11-10) against Ghana without Abedi Pele in the final

And did you just say the Ivorians were better than even us in 94?I laugh in Amuneke

Thinking about it now. . . . . .I think they were slightly better than us.
Joel Tiehi and Abdoulaye Traore were superb in that tournament.
They took Ghana apart and had Iroha not broken Tiehi's ankle in that our match, we were there to be slaughtered.

That SE 94 team was brimming with so much talent we could parade a team B that will beat most of African teams.Forget what those emotionally charged Zambians did to us late on in the final.

Yet our team A lost to them in Abidjan in the WCQ of 1993.

And in 96 when we could have won the ACN easily,what did the googled one do?

That na another matter.

kay_pumpin:
How were we played off the park in that match.That has to be one of Okocha's best performances for us(a la against the Azzuri's in USA 94)during his playing career.I still can't forget his great pass that culminated in Iroha's goal.

I still saw the match last summer. Ivory Coast took the game to us in the first 45 mins and we only improved in the 2nd half.
Bassole scored two blinders(especially the 2nd one). . . . .Joel Tiehi was in the form of his life in that tournament.

The Yeo Martial tutored side of Senegal 92 were more efficient that the 94 team man.

I disagree.
SE woulda beaten that team had we beaten Ghana in the Semis. . . . .
We lost to Ghana stupidly no thanx to our sleeping defenders allowing Abedi Pele to score a glancing header from over 25 yards.

chic2pimp:
TBH, I'll be lying if I said I expected any better from you. It's not only Taribo West, soon we will be hearing Tinubu East was better. Shior
After taking a second look at that list of yours with the exception of Stam,Sandro,Paolo,Hierro and desaily,Kuffour there I say it had a better season than the rest of them.

This is as ridiculous as Lehmann having a better season than Petr Cech in 2005/6 season.

Whether you admit it or not, Cristiana Ronalda has been solely missed.

Maybe missed in Real Madrid. . . .He has not been missed at OT where Rooney has scored more league goals in Jan than Ronaldo did thruout last season.
If you wanna know the effects of a "missed" player. Then look at Liverpool WITHOUT Xabi Alonso.
They are out in all the competitions they entered for at the start of the season.

Ibime:
Im surprised the best centre-back of that period, Paulo Montero is not in this list.

The best CB in 1999 was Jaap Stam.
There's no defender like Stam in 1999. He was the Vidic of 2008-2009.

tkb417:
so if he fails medicals, Arsenal will pounce on him?
ure a joker
try again cos tht joke doesnt make sense

Don't mind the Charlatan.

Smalling is flying to Manchester tomorrow for his medicals and according to Roy Hodgson tonight. . . .If Smalling passes his medical, he will join Man Utd in the summer. He said Arsene Wenger has not made any bid for Smalling.

Eldee, holler me for YIM with immediate effect

chic2pimp:
Man united has looked more vulnerable since the dude left. Every Tom manliness and Harry now fancies their chances against you as proven by the amount of games you've lost this season.
The only saving grace is that Carlo's team has also been inconsistent. Had that been Mou's team, you lot would be 10 points behind chelsea.

Vulnerable? So Ronaldo is now a defender?
The only way to know if United had missed Ronaldo is to look at the amount of goals scored.
United have been vulnerable because Rio/Vidic/VDS have all been absent this season. . . . .nothing to do with Cristiano.

You must have smoked paraga this evening. Taribo ko Babaginda ni
In what planet was Taribo better than Kuffour in 1999? .The fact that Sammy was 2nd while Taribo was no where to be found validates my point.
Had sammy given the same performance but in a different position(midfielder or striker), he woulda ran away with the title.
We all know there is a bias against defenders and goalkeepers when it comes to awards.

I don't expect you to know Taribo's exploits in Inter in 1999 cos as at then, you were in a village in Onitsha trapping rodents.
Kuffour ko. Koffie ni. . . . . . .Eboue of 2006 was better than Kuffour of 1999.

chic2pimp:
Look @ dis douchebag. Man united haven't missed Ronaldo ma foot. Abegii

What has changed without Ronaldo?
Did we top our group in Europe? Yes(with 2 games to spare)
Are we on top of the league? Yes(this time last season we were 2nd)
Have we scored more goals without Ronaldo? Yes(we have scored 14 league goals more in the league).

Billic,West ,Abelardo and Blanc were not better than Kuffour. Birindelli was a full back not a Central defender

Taribo wasn't better than Kuffour in 1999?
You are a dolt!!!!

asha 80:
Guy abeg throw link now?

I bought the whole season on itunes. . . . .
Itunes link is unthrowable.

dayokanu:
Kolo toure comparison is the height of insanity because we had other African players who were better e.g Etoo but in 99 kanu warmed the bench as bergkamp and Suker were the main strikers before Henry came. FYI kanu was mainly a sub in his entire club career

Stop talking like a pederast, Nazi.

Kanu joined Arsenal in Jan/Feb 1999 after 25 league games had been played and he started 12 of the 13 remaining league games.
How was he a bench player?

If Kolo Toure comparison is the height of insanity. . . . .Were Seydou Keita/Yaya Toure the best African players last season?
They played in the final of the CL and won the TREBLE.

dayokanu:
De boer left ajax in 1998. Kuffour is better everyone in bilic generation

He left Ajax in the same season Man Utd undressed Bayern Munich in Nou Camp.

Kuffour is the most useless African player that has ever played in the CL final.
Only a retard will even say he deserved to win African Player Of The Year in 1999 because he played in the final of CL
If we follow Dayokanu's logic, Djimi Traore of Liverpool was the best African player in 2005 and Eboue/Toure were the best African players in 2006.

dayokanu:
even slaven bilic smh

Look at this Arrow . . . . .U want to argue Kuffour was better than Bilic in 1999?

dayokanu:
Trust giffanti he can't argue with facts bayern made the cl final and kuffour was a regular throughout his bayern Career but since Sauron saw de boer in ajax in 1999 then I can conclude we don't watch the same game

Kuffour being a regular in a Bayern side that made the CL final does not make him great.
He was only lucky to be playing around decent players. . . . .No idiot will say Kolo Toure was the best African player in 2006 because he played in the CL final in Paris.

De Boer was an Ajax player in 98/99 season just like Anelka was a Bolton player in 2007/08 season.

I have named a dozen players better than Kuffour in Europe. . . .U either argue against these names or shut it.

chic2pimp:
Eboue is not a vital component for Arsenal and neither is Muntari for inter. They both could be sold today and no one from their respective teams would miss them.The same could not be said of Kuffour and Bayern.

You are a Arrow!!!
Man Utd sold Ronaldo and they have not missed him so it means Ronaldo is not a vital component?
What a dork!!!

Sango fire ya backside.  Name 10-15 central defenders who were better during that period.

On the top of me head. . . . . .

Birindelli(Juventus)
Maldini(AC Milan)
Jaap Stam(Man Utd)
Sandro Nesta(Lazio)
Nando Hierro(Real Madrid)
Slaven Bilic(Everton)

Dario Simic(Inter Milan)
Roberto Ayala(AC Milan)
Abelardo(Barcelona)
Desailly(Chelsea)
Laurent Blanc(Marseille)
Frank De Boer(Ajax)
Taribo West(Inter Milan)

chic2pimp:
Oh c'mon now. Sammy Kuffour was a vital component of the Bayern all conquering squad of late 90's to early 2000's.

What do you mean by vital component?
Is Eboue not a vital component for Arsenal? Is Muntari not a vital component for Inter?
Are these 2 players better than Odemwingie because they play in Europe regularly?

Kuffour was also one of the top defenders in europe during that period, O'shea was not and never will.

Top defenders in Europe in that period? May Amadioha fire your moustache.
Kuffour wasn't in the top 30 defenders in Europe in 1999.

dayokanu:
Sauron being a raving lunatic can spot the difference.

You sound like a donkey. . . . .

Kuffour was a regular and played all games. He was a key member of Munich defence. Oshea played cos ppl were injured.
Kanu was a sub in 1999 for Assanal true of false

Kuffour as a regular in that season just like John O'Shea was a regular for Man Utd last season.
JOS played 54 games for Man Utd last season so he did not play because people were injured. . . .He played cos he showed massive improvement.

Kanu was not a sub in 1999 for Arsenal. . . . .He was a regular.

dayokanu:
^^^ Just like Nigerians believe Okocha should have won player of the year for leading Bolton to escape relegation while Etoo was playing Confederations cup final and winning Kings cup with Mallorca.

Or while Etoo was winning CL with Barcelona.

I didnt see Nigerians complain when Kanu Nwakwo won player of the year in 1999 playing as a sub for Arsenal.

Kanu scored a hat trick vs Chelsea and won Player of the year that is the greatest injustice while Osei Kuffuor was overlooked in that same year when he played the CL final

You are a raving simpleton.
Kanu Nwankwo was the best African player in 1999. . .Kuffour playing in the CL in the same year was like O'Shea playing CL for Man Utd last season.
Only a neurotic lummox would say O'Shea was the best Irish player last season just because he was lucky to start in ROME.

Just saw episode 5 and Renee is in trouble already. . . .
She was 10 seconds away from being shot by a bad guy but her tears saved her life. . . .

Jack Bauer also got outfoxed by the hoodlums. . . . .
This is getting interesting.

debosky:
How can you compare a ill-timed tackle that occurred as a result of a 50:50 ball to the deliberate, intentional assault like Rio committed?
There is no comparison.
Furthermore, Wiley saw the Gallas incident and realised that it was a 50:50 ball so no action was taken.
The FA cannot take action once a referee sees the incident.

Then why was SWP banned retrospectively by the FA even after Martin Atkinson saw him kick Rory Delap retaliatory?

So buying a £7m player is now a sign of strength in the transfer market?  
Poverty na naughty person.  

You are a disgrace. . . . . .
Apart from Rio Ferdinand & Jaap Stam. . . . . .This is United's most expensive defender in history so yes. . . .£7m is a strength in the transfer market for a 20 yr-old player who was playing for Maidstone barely 2 years ago.

Arsene either undervalued the player or Utd overvalued him. Either way, if Wenger was intent on getting the lad, he'd pull out all the stops like he did for Ramsey. Obviously that wasn't the case here.
I wish him all the best at Utd.

Arsene Wenger said: "It just looks like Manchester United offered more money than us, but as long as the player has not signed anywhere it is not the end of it.
"Let's see what happens there.
"We will not come out on what we are doing exactly. It has come out [elsewhere], but that does not mean it is true.
"If we have anything more to tell you we will let you know

Admit it when you are beaten. . . . . .
Man Utd outmatched Arsenal on this one. . . .

RuuDie:
Hmmm. . . chris smallie berra come good, i don't like the Vidic vibes am getting!

Vidic is injury prone and ageing.
We cannot wait till he retires before we replace Vidic.
How many league games has he played for us this season?

presido1:
Chris Smalling sign for Man United.

But according to Debosky and his legion of nincompoops. . . .we don't have money to spend on players.

debosky:
Rio is an 'innit bruv' thug, while Gallas is a refined French gentleman.

Bollocks. . . . . . . .Arsene bends down for the FA Chiefs and that's the reason Arsenal players are rarely punished retrospectively.
But on a positive note. . . .

MAN UTD SIGN CHRIS SMALLING

Manchester United have agreed a deal to sign Fulham's highly rated centre-back Chris Smalling. The 20-year-old had also been the subject of interest from Arsenal but he will now join Sir Alex Ferguson's side at the end of the season.

The England Under-21 international, who has made just nine first-team appearances for the Cottagers, is thought to be valued at £7m. The switch to Old Trafford will complete a rapid rise to prominence for Smalling, who was playing non-league football with Maidstone two years ago.

"Manchester United have agreed terms for the transfer of Chris Smalling from Fulham," said a spokesman. "Chris has agreed personal terms with the club and will join for the beginning of the 2010-11 campaign. He will remain at Fulham until the end of the current season."

Earlier in the day the Arsenal manager, Arsène Wenger, had cast doubt on whether the transfer was a done deal, but admitted: "Manchester United offered more money than us". The fee paid by United has not been disclosed.

It's amazing that a debt-ridden club like United can beat a debt-free Arsenal in the transfer market.

Hahaha. . . . . . .Rio gets SLAMMED for 3 matches by the FA.

Fergie should appeal this. . . . .Gallas broke someone's ankle and they let him go.
Rio slaps someone and he is getting DONE by the FA.
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Emperoh:
EB
Vida's time up? Well if that is the case, i don't see a Chris Smalling replacing him!!
Either we get an establshed played like Chielini or Evans steps up big time!!!
We don't need some experimenting at this time. . . . we should look to see how many of the young dudes are ready to step up
But if he's a quick breed, then let him come in!!

On the contrary, i think United need to rebuild. . . .
Age is catching up with our defence unit thus limiting their number of appearances.

Neville(34)
Ferdinand(30)
Brown(30)
Vidic(28)
O'Shea(28)
Evra(28)

Ferdinand and Vidic have barely played this season whilst Brown and O'Shea are ageing at the speed of the light.
We can do with Rafael/Fabio, Evans, De Laet and the new target(Smalling).

semid4lyfe:
Cotedevoire. . . . .perennial underachievers of African football. I recall they had a golden generation in '94 with players like Joel Tiehi, Michele Bassole, Alan Gouamane & co and were heavily tipped by pundits and bookmakers to lift the cup but they fell short even then. . . . . . .and now the same thing has happened to this set of golden boys at their peak. . . . . I pity them cos this competition was theirs for the taken but since they've blown it, they wont win it in the next 10yrs.

Adios Cotedevoire!

That squad played the best Nigerian team ever off the park in Tunisia 94.
Till date. . . . . .That is the best ACN match i have ever watched.
The brand of attacking football displayed by both teams was WORLD CLASS.

Eastbay:
Mancs,
United are believed to have made a move for the Fulham defender Chris Smalling.
Just saw it on Sky Sports,
Does this mean Vida's time is up?I saw him against Chelsea:he did well for a debutant aside from the unfortunate own goal he conceded (ball bounced off him into goal.)

Another Aaron Ramsey deal?

mukina2:
on to Black Stars. lemme see what the eagles will play against the kids of Ghana

Sharrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrap. . . . . . .Admit it. . . .You are jealous of Nigeria because your useless team(CIV) got dumped out of the competition.
U will have to wait another two years to see your darling Eboue lift the ACN.

Sagamite:
Correction. We played 4-5-0.

So what happened to our lone striker?
He doesn't exist?

Sagamite:
Not necessarily. If you have so much DMs and CMs, 4-3-3 is apt.

The problem is the lack of will by the wingers to take men on. Obasi needs to do leg overs, dribbles whatever even if he loses the ball eventually. We need him and Odems to disrupt the opposition shape, which only Odems is doing at the moment.

But if it is not working switch to 4-4-2 for a while.

The 4-3-3 is not working. . . . . .Amodu should be bold and play 4-4-2.

I think his reluctance to lose is making him to be disgustingly negative.
With 4-3-3, you have Obasi and Odemiwingie having nothing to aim at in the opposition's box.
Yakubu is not exactly a mobile striker so playing 4-3-3 with Yakubu up top is as useless as a used tissue paper.

I'd rather we PLAY exciting football than the shower of shyte the SE are producing now.
We lacked tactical nous and cutting edge last night and we were so lucky to scrape through. . . . It had nothing to do with Amodu as we all know penalty shoot-out is a lottery. I don't see how this geriatric Amodu can outwit world class managers in South Africa.

Argentina will rip us to shreds if we don't up the ante. . . . .Even now i am starting to think Siasia is a better option(if we must use an indigenous coach)

nateevs:
@Chac.
Chelsea are not Arsenal. Drogba's form will not dip. He does not have to play tomorrow. He will play on Saturday and the week after against Arsenal. To be honest, that's all we need to beat Birmingham, Burnley, Hull and Arsenal and move back to the top of the table. Y'all are borrowing the that space.

His form has dipped already.
He had a stinker in the Cup of Nations.

debosky:
Toure one of the best CBs?? 

Yes. . . . .Between 2004 and 2008, he was Arsenal's back-bone.
His absence was the reason United sodomised Arsenal 4-2 at Highbury in 2004/5 season.
Campbell was a lost soul in em days.

For once I agree with Ibime - he was a field nucca while Campbell the house nucca kept him in the groove with his intellect. 

Ibime is talking crap.
This clip proves Ibime wrong in leaps n bounds. . . . . .Kolo Toure has virtually sodomised all the top strikers he has played against in his prime and that list includes Ruud, Anelka, Luiz Ronaldo, Zlatan, Martins, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Crespo, Drogba, etc


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Citeh's defensive performance this season says it all - even Arsenal's leaky defence is doing better than theirs. 

Toure lost his way immediately after ANC 2008.

~Borat~:
This was the same sharon that was spewing vomitus on the last manure thread about a certain balding obertan and how he was the next best thing after a good w@nk, and how he was going to wreck defences and bla bla bla
Now its Diouf. Idiot

You are a big asswipe. . . . . .The biggest one this forum has ever produced but i ain't surprised.
Anyone called Borat is not expected to have any iota of intelligence cos your shoe size is higher than your IQ.
Stupidity platelets flow in your veins.

Obertan is a precocious talent and he is not the one sent on loan here. . . . . .
How many Chelsea wingers are better than Obertan? I cannot think of any.
You simpletons(Ibime included) believe any player sidelined in United is wack whereas only Drogba + Lampard can walk into the United team.

Ibime kept yapping like a small turd that Blanc was happy to sell Obertan. . . . .
Let it be known PSV was also happy to sell Ruud Van Nistelrooy to Man Utd(they thought they were selling us a cripple) but we turned it around.
Obertan is only 20. His time will come and only a slowpoke suffering with creeping neurosis will expect Obertan to quickly bench Nani, Giggs, Park, Valencia.