Kilode?!:

Yes these civil wars need historical parks. If I have money, I'll work on it.

denzel2009:

data protection of their bosoms

Katsumoto:

Ok,

Ekiti had the most fearsome warriors in the world; they defeated everyone they fought against.  

We are actually talking about a coalition of small Ekiti towns such as Ado, Ila, Oke Mesin, etc.  

tpia@:

^which differences are those?

You sound like someone who bases his knowledge on hearsay and google.
Not actual familiarity with the subject matter.

c.fours:


The only time I crave marriage is when I crave children or having a family. there is such thing as "child bearing age" after all.
beyond that, it's really not much of a big deal.

I'm yet to meet a 45yr old man claiming to enjoy his "single years"
whereas there are many women of that age who have experienced marriage and gotten out of it (women almost always initiate the divorce).

women after divorce feel liberated
men after divorce are in a rush to remarry!

really says a lot about who is benefiting most from marriage.

Katsumoto:

Sauron,

In case you are unaware of this, Ekiti towns were tributaries of Ibadan. So your point about Ekiti not taking nonsense and dealing with Oyo is funny. They had been subjugated in the past. The seized on the conflict between Ibadan and Egba/Ijebu to wage war on Ibadan and still needed an alliance with Ijesha with an Ijesha general leading the combined army.

The same Ekiti towns were equally paying tributes to Benin.

Abeg make we hear word.  

Wallie:

My point is that I don't know if he's guilty or not but he has damning evidence against him.

dj5naira:

I Blow Up more minds in-house than Boko Haram Terrorist║
Even the brashest and bravest,. .  they all adjust. . . when I around, so I don't bomb house and leav 'em bleak-est!║

Katsumoto:

I have listed several books that form the basis of my debate. If you can read only one, please read Samuel Johnson's book. I have no interest in distorting history.

If Ekiti were winning, they woudln't have needed to beg an Ijesha man, Ogedengbe, to lead them in battle. The wars started in 1877 and Ogendengbe joined in 1879.

dayokanu:

Gat2win is Nateevs

He has Torres as captain

ACM10:

Mythologist

Katsumoto:

Sauron

U are overblowing the strenght in that war. I will respond later. If ibadan weren't fighting several states on three fronts, they would av finished ekiti in no time. Ekiti suffered several defeats before turning to the ijeshas. It was the losses sufferred by the ijesha which prompted ogedengbe an ijesha man to agree to lead the ekitiparapo army. Ogedengbe had pledged not to ever fight against his former masters.

After the war started against the ekiti, it took ajayi ogboriefon all of two days to defeat the ekitiparapo and ilorin at ikirun. The death of ajayi, not in battle, would offer the ekiti a chance to keep fighting.

ACM10:

Fearsome my foot!

They, in combination with other Yoruba warriors with all their sophisticated weapon[i](if one exists)[/i] were conquered by the fulanis.

You can't spin defeat to victory

Katsumoto:

Sauron
Oyo people are not cowards. They had the most fearsome warriors in the history of yoruba warfare.

dayokanu:

^^ Dont mind Sauron

Does he know how many Aare ona kakanfo were from that Axis?

Kokoro Gangan, Oyatope, Oyabi, Adeta Oku, Afonja laya loko, Toyeje, Edun, Amepo, Kurumi, Ojo Aburumaku, Obadoke Latoosa (and of course SLA Akintola and MKO Abiola

Count how many were from Oyo. axis

Ibime:

Howard Webb has been the best ref in the Prem for the last 7 years. If you dont know that, you're on a long thing. Maybe some peeps prefer Mike Riley. Howard Webb looks like the only ref who ever played footie to a decent level. He knows when to call a foul and when a player is just protecting the ball. If he made a mistake its cos he didnt see it properly from his angle.

Katsumoto:

Sauron
The ekitiparapo won independence but didn't win the war. War ended in a stalemate.

Dede1:

You foolishly forgot that Ogedengbe was once captured by the Bashorun of Ibadan and he, Ogedengbe, was forced to fight for Ibadan. Without Ibadan warriors, few loudmouths such you would have been appending “Mallam” to your names. 

hercules07:

@Sauron
The long term target was the Ilorins, but you pesky Ekitis and Ijeshas had to start something, maybe it was because of your mountains and hills that you thought you were super mario, we were more interested in the Fulanis who had taken Oyo and would have defeated them if you guys had not started all those wars, what is 20% to pay to those who will guarantee your safety, we should have even asked for 50% sef.

@Dede
First time I will agree with you, do not mind Sauron jare, he would have been called Mallam Salisu if not for the Ibadans.

ritchboy:

Gomes' reflexes are rivaled only by Shay Given in England.

Of course it bears no relevance because we are talking about current ability and not potential. Should we start comparing Shaqiri to CR7 simply because he is younger?

You can't play the age card when comparing players, if/when he fulfills his potential then you can begin your comparison.

"Oxlade-Chamberlain is the best player in the world" - "No, Messi is" - "But Chamberlain is 6 years younger and will improve"

Where's my jar of cookies when i need em. . .

Kilode?!:

I think the problem with the Ibadans then was their inability to temper their hunger for war with good foresight, apparently they underestimated the determination of an alliance with little to lose.

The Ekiti alliance defeated them on several fronts because they were able to get other kingdoms on their side.

zebudaya:

^^^ To make sure I don't have cancer or swelling. I'd rather an attractive female touch them rather than a dude.

zebudaya:


About cameras in the Doctor's office. I went for a physical last month. Doctor fondled my balls. Ok she didn't handle them just spent couple of minutes touching them and looking into my eyes telling me she's checking it for cancer lumps. On a good day kai!!!!! There was a camera there so what?. I was just hoping my thing didn't charge and embarrass me while she was touching my balls. She was a very attractive cougar. Fake t!ts, thick blond with nice a$$, big collagen injected lips. SLUT. I even think she was flirting with me. Luckily it didn't charge

hercules07:

@Sauron

You can not compare the Ibadans to Nazis and you guys did not win, Ogedengbe was a legend because he fought bravely and won many battles but not the war, he was feared because he was notorious, his boys were not giving to being gentle on civilians. Some of the wars fought by the Ibadans were through arrogance but some were brought upon them due to circumstance, remember the Ibadans were the last defenders of the yorubas and if they are sent by the Alaafin to fight they go willingly, the Ekitis, Ijeshas and Ife had an alliance with the mortal enemies of the yorubas the Fulanis, what did you expect the Ibadans to do, also remember that you had oyo towns that were loyal to Ibadan within enemy territories, did you expect Ibadan to leave them to their fate? As per the Egbas and Ijebus, the Egbas were trouble makers who wanted to teach the Ibadans a lesson, especially after they begged for the life of Efunsetan Aniwura and she was still killed, there were battles fought by Ibadans defending even brothers against brothers, according to the oyinbo that watched some of the battles, he was of the belief that the Ibadan maneuvering was superior to that of the others and would have won the war if left to fight it out, anyway, it is all good, my mum is Ijesha and my wife Ekiti, I have mad love for them people.

Wallie:

I just laugh at how naive some people seem! Someone made a comment about people not hearing the lady scream or how the camera didn't see the bruises!

Let me ask you this: how come some violation victims usually claim that they are not violated, especially in Nigeria even when evidence points to the contrary? I remember the case of the student that was ganged violated in the video from a University in Nigeria that went viral (from Abia, i think?). How come the mother said her daughter wasn't violated? violation is a crime of shame and some people would rather keep quiet than expose the despoiler!

Moreover, the Doctor directed the patient, a patient that has seen the doctor for about 3 years, to go into a room where no one was present. I don’t know about you but when my Doctor tells me to do something, I will do it unless it is patently obvious that there’s something wrong!

There was another allegation of a woman that went to the same doctor for back pain, another long time patient, and the Doctor reached into her bra to supposedly check for cancer? Aren’t you supposed to disrobe in a hospital gown for a doctor to check you? How come he never checked the woman’s twins on prior occasions when she went for a visit? The doctor is then said to give the patient more dosage of a narcotic drug than she normally gets, allegedly to keep her quiet!

Lastly, read the police report and see that there's a lot more to the story!

Andre Uweh:

Did the Ekiti alliance actually won against Ibadan?. Am not too sure of that. I thought there was a deadlock, then foreign powers got involved, then later was a ceasefire. You may know more than me.

hercules07:

They did not win anything, we actually fought them more than once, the British got involved in the second one, that was the one that ended in a deadlock. The Ibadans must be praised for they were fighting on three fronts and still managed to hold out due to superior tactics despite the fact that the Egbas and Ijebus had access to the seas and the Ijeshas had access to modern weaponry and some people will come online to say Yorubas are cowards.

Andre Uweh:

He might be wrong but am really enjoying this thread. I have read the works of Prof J.F Ade-Ajayi in relation to this topic. I think someone quoted his book earlier on this thread.
Nevertherless, I would like to read your contributions. What was the role of your own town during this dark period of Yoruba history?.

ronkebp:

Are the doctors not supposed to have camera's in their offices

Andre Uweh:

Why are you insulting Ndigbo in this beautiful thread?. It seems you are not happy with this historical thread or do you want the easterners to derail it.
Biko, respect.

Kilode?!:

^

Sauron??

The same Sauron?

Dede1:

Ndigbo did not forget the tactics however what took place is the risk involved when one teaches close neighbors one or two things about oneself. You should inquire why 3MCDO and 2nd Division of Nigerian Army were mostly populated with elements/characters drown from southern Nigerian ethnicities.

dj5naira:

My flow . .Proactive like Radioactive, . . . yours Weak like Inactive║
I come out Dynamic, more like Refractive. . . You remain. . Static like Passive║

ritchboy:

Gomes is the best shot-stopper in the top-six but he sits his arse on Tottenham's bench cos shot-stopping is one of the least crucial parts of goal-keeping especially for a top side.

Dede1:


Since then, Fulani, Hausa and Kanuri do not sleep with both eyes closed when Ndigbo are closely.