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Christianity EtcRe: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 4:31pm On Dec 20, 2017
budaatum:
Sorry, no. I haven't the time to waste if you are to do the judging.
Fear can cripple a strong man. The liberating challenge that Kingebukasblog is offering the world must not go to waste because of cowardice.

I always thought you would be the one to show courage to lead this group of confused low-level unregistered Atheists to freedom.

Your demands for someone else to judge is a copout. The whole world is watching and judging.
Christianity EtcRe: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 4:20pm On Dec 20, 2017
Maezara:
He's going to quote you 10 BILLION TIMES, repeating the same retãrded sh¡t over and over again.
That is correct. He is forced to repeat things over and over and over for the benefit of Low-level unregistered Atheists.
Christianity EtcRe: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 4:17pm On Dec 20, 2017
budaatum:
KEB, It's been pretty quiet since your post on 23 November. Careful observers would have noticed the true Christians (as opposed to deists like you) have held sway since that day, with even the most militant atheists having to be silent while God reigned. Welcome back.

So, to your challenge, I would take it up under certain conditions.

1. Who would be the judges? It can't be you as you have not shown the ability to comprehend positions that stand opposed to yours.

Lets sort that out and I'll take up your challenge.
Aaaaahh that is low blow coming from you BudaAtum. Is the motive fear or ENVY?

Kingebukasblog is making a contribution that cowardly Low-level Atheists fear. Yet he is appealing to participants courage. The king is appealing to participants sense of fairplay. Look closely, this generous offer from the King is in service of humanity.
Christianity EtcRe: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 4:05pm On Dec 20, 2017
Tozara:
Lol. I believe you to be intellectually penurious and materially destitute, so giving the prize to the winner of this challenge would be a CHALLENGE even for you. Because:

1. You do not have the intellectual muscles to perceive rationality, even when it's leading a band before you and performing the music of reason. So, how can you know whether someone has crushed your challenges or not?

2. I don't think you can afford the prize for crushing your arguments that are as weak and watery as your *****, so this is nothing but an avenue for entertaining yourself because you're bored.

CONCLUSION: Gerrarahere, Ebuka. And go and preach the Gospel to the gullible.
Aka TOZARA, hey fuckface, are you still DAZZLING VAGINAS with your tiny tiny WEENY?

Your pretentious language is your downfall Sir, DID you know that Kingebukasblog can easily pay for your operation to finally do that much needed penal enlargement?

Are you using many monikers to compensate for your tiny tiny WEENY and erectile dysfunction?

You are also a self proclaimed Catholic Atheist now here is your chance to Fuckin win the money to pay for your operation.
Christianity EtcRe: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 3:49pm On Dec 20, 2017
Tozara:
Lol. Those were very obvious charateristics of his. It's no surprise that I share your opinion of his person. grin
I am very surprised. You have more than one moniker SHITBAG. Which one are you using now ?
Christianity EtcRe: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 3:28pm On Dec 20, 2017
dammyloye:
coming, this is not an exam....it's an argument, normally I would drop points but what ever I say to you will be null because you are a religionist.
you also can't show proof of a God's existence
Just listen to you. The Atheist God is called No-god. WHY can't you prove that your God exist ? Or are you also an unregistered non fee paying Atheist ?
Christianity EtcRe: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 3:21pm On Dec 20, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
This has been refuted so many times on this forum . And God having human characteristics is called anthropomorphism and the writers of the bible used it so as make God comprehensible to a human reader . Deists like Xenophanes criticised the use of anthropomorphism in religious texts.

Deism also rejects divine revelation or manifestation from God . So impugning God's revelation of Itself to humans isn't really questioning His existence.

In maltheism/dystheism , God is an evil being or not totally a good being like other types of theism portray him to be .

We have rationalism as a means of obtaining knowledge of things we can't perceive through reason - and this admits empiricism is fallible and limited since our sensory experience only dwells on the physical. Though one can make use of both rationalism and empiricism to obtain knowledge Eg The Cosmological Argument for God's existence allows both empirical evidence and reason through deduction to attain the corollary which is the affirmation of the existence of God

God has morally sufficient reasons why he permits evil mainly because of freewill . Every moral agent has the ability to do things on their volition and so if God permits evil , it could because of the expression of freewill . That's why we moral laws that help us freely choose to do good not evil . Evil itself is evidence for God . Why ? Because evil is a departure from good and since God (the epitome of moral goodness) is good , evil is contrary to Its nature .


In positive deism, God gives man reason to figure out or discover Its nature . So saying that man expressing this God-given ability to ascertain Its nature is proof that God is a figment of our imagination is ridiculous .




The emboldened text has been the foundation for many good arguments for God's existence .

1. Mental states are non-physical , your thoughts can't be felt or touched like you clearly said . And the only logical explanation for an non-physical state is that a non-physical ultimate mind(God) exists. Material objects like your chair , table , don't experience mental states only minds do . And our thoughts could be about something else (intentionality) Eg I can think of the battle in the 1800s between the Zulu warriors and the British soldiers who were about 1400 were decimated. And we have a fine argument that through deduction points to the existence of God . Here is the syllogistic form :

1. If God does not exist , intentional states of consciousness do not exist .

2. Intentional states of consciousness exist

3. Therefore, God exists

From premise 1 , materialists deny the existence of intentional states of consciousness. And if intentional states of consciousness do not exist , then a non-physical ultimate mind which is the reason for such nature and experience do not exist

From premise 2 , you agree that intentional states of consciousness exist by admitting that thoughts are non-physical

Then the obvious conclusion is to affirm the existence of God .



2. In the idealist's world , our thoughts are basically what form our reality . And our ideas mostly are simply of what what we perceive and this includes objects : chairs , tables, etc . So here is an argument in defence of this stance

1. We perceive ordinary objects

2. We perceive ideas

3. Therefore , ordinary objects are ideas.

Don't forget ideas are mind-dependent. You need a mind to elicit ideas . And this is the basis of George Berkeley 's Esse Est Percipi - to be is to be perceived. If we should go further , he addresses how this conclusion that objects are ideas prove the existence of an ultimate mind or an ultimate perceiver of things(God) - the reason why objects (which are ideas ) exist even though our finite minds are not there to perceive them .

This is how we use reason and sensory experience to obtain knowledge of things beyond our our sensory experience .
Wow ! The King has done it again. His elegant rebuttal deserves a standing ovation from all wise persons.I am certain that Butterfly1on can design an award for the highly esteemed Nairalander Kingebukasblog and post it to all relevant topics.

I have taken the liberty of emailing the King's comments to two hundred including Atheists on my mailing list and my inbox is viral man.

May the King stay strong. More grease to his elbows !!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 2:12pm On Dec 20, 2017
Maezara:
You won't use me to enliven your boring life of sorrow, retardation, and masochistic submission to the cosmic torture God of Christardinity. Turn to the nearest Christard, instead. I've had enough of you.

Farewell, as I seal your coffin. I'll come and watch you display your lunacy and cretinism in your chains when I'm ready to check on the fools on the other side.
You have made a serious blunder aka TOZARA, you sealed the coffin from the inside and now you are stuck. It is refreshing to witness your strengths and weaknesses here. I actually have to admit that it is embarrassing to be in the same coffin with you Sir.
Even though I know where you are going after the ground settles, just knowing that you have a TINY TINY WEENY and going to hell with it is insulting especially knowing how you bragged about DAZZLING WOMENS VAGINAS here on earth.
I am sorry Sir, it is too late to do anything about it now. SATAN will dis you if you can't screw his haram of prostitutes.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 1:47pm On Dec 20, 2017
Maezara:
You won't use me to enliven your boring life of sorrow, retardation, and masochistic submission to the cosmic torture God of Christardinity. Turn to the nearest Christard, instead. I've had enough of you.

Farewell, as I seal your coffin. I'll come and watch you display your lunacy and cretinism in your chains when I'm ready to check on the fools on the other side.
Did you see that. You are safe. I don't report alternate monikers, you aka TOZARA to Nairaland's esteemed moderators. It is not my place to report your crap. SATAN has plans for you that I can't even dream up.

The worst thing I will do to you is tell you the truth about your insane self, but it will take you twenty years to understand it. That is the sad part.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 1:40pm On Dec 20, 2017
Martinez19:
KingEbukasBlog, butterflylion, felixomor, bennyann, Petra1, jiggaz, Oladeegbu, I need some explanation. grin
If you don't mind Martinez19, I won't give you an explanation on your childish topic with its stupid title.

Go quickly and write a topic titled; WHY ANGELS DONT LIKE UNREGISTERED ATHEISTS.

In your content, ask the million dollar question - Will Satan provide Atheists with ANGELS and what will they look like?

Your topic will go viral. You will become famous. Envious low-level Atheists will try to kill you.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 1:25pm On Dec 20, 2017
Tozara:
Mtchwwwww. My intuition tells me that you turned out an imbecilé because your father refused to pay your tuitions---he was more interested in rearing pigs. When you were a boy, the irregular shape of your cucumber-like head signified to him that you had the brain of a cow. He concluded that pigs are more useful than a worthless NON-LACTATING cow that LIVES ON CHRISTARD GRASS ALONE---you've been taking weed before you learned how to speak, and grew up to be a hopeless mad fool.
The last time I heard Satan also uses the term TOZARA.
You make an impossible claim that you are Catholic Atheist. SATAN always makes impossible pretentious claims. Your alternate moniker is equally pretentious and DELUSIONAL.
FIX IT OR GET OUT SCUMBAG.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 1:02pm On Dec 20, 2017
Maezara:
You won't use me to enliven your boring life of sorrow, retardation, and masochistic submission to the cosmic torture God of Christardinity. Turn to the nearest Christard, instead. I've had enough of you.

Farewell, as I seal your coffin. I'll come and watch you display your lunacy and cretinism in your chains when I'm ready to check on the fools on the other side.
Aka TOZARA, Why do Satan's ANGELS look like you Sir?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 12:55pm On Dec 20, 2017
Maezara:
You won't use me to enliven your boring life of sorrow, retardation, and masochistic submission to the cosmic torture God of Christardinity. Turn to the nearest Christard, instead. I've had enough of you.

Farewell, as I lock your coffin. I'll come and watch you display your lunacy and cretinism in your chains when I'm ready to check on the fools on the other side.
Where the hell did you come from aka TOZARA. You remind me of the Big bang. So it must be by accident that you worship Satan.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 12:50pm On Dec 20, 2017
Maezara:
You won't use me to enliven your boring life of sorrow, retardation, and masochistic submission to the cosmic torture God of Christardinity. Turn to the nearest Christard, instead. I've had enough of you.

Farewell, as I lock your coffin. I'll come and watch you display your lunacy and cretinism in your chains when I'm ready to check on the fools on the other side.
Your alternate moniker aka TOZARA is very sad. I don't need two pretentious GAYS that want to DAZZLE WOMENS VAGINAS with tiny weenys. So Bleep off. Take a small piss.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 12:26pm On Dec 20, 2017
Tozara:
Mtchwwwww. My intuition tells me that you turned out an imbecilé because your father refused to pay your tuitions---he was more interested in rearing pigs. When you were a boy, the irregular shape of your cucumber-like head signified to him that you had the brain of a cow. He concluded that pigs are more useful than a worthless NON-LACTATING cow that LIVES ON CHRISTARD GRASS ALONE---you've been taking weed before you learned how to speak, and grew up to be a hopeless mad fool.
Thank you TOZARA. Knowing that you are PRETENTIOUS makes me wonder if this is a complement or is it about farming?

Oh, one word of advice. Low-level unregistered Atheists don't have intuition. Stop using words that you only memorized. Butterfly1on is a master at correcting mental sloth whereas Kingebukasblog will demand that you pull yourself right and write a topic titled, WHY ANGELS DONT LIKE UNREGISTERED ATHEISTS.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 12:13pm On Dec 20, 2017
Martinez19:
"faith is a belief based on evidence." now that's stupidity at it's peak.
I agree. You a true atheist Martinez19. Have you finally registered and paid your monthly tithes/fees to your modern prophet of Atheism, Richard Dawkins?

Did you make the booking on Dawkins website to have a meal with him at only 2.8million Naira per year. There is rumour that your prophet will push up the monthly tithes/fees to N3500 per month.

I am not saying it's a bad deal at all. Just sign a fixed payment contract with him. He is a Satanist.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 12:00pm On Dec 20, 2017
Tozara:
So much noise in one post. Notify me when you're cured of your mental illness. I promise to help with your rehabilitation. Worthless asswipe.
I know I need psychiatric treatment, but you will drive me insane. Thanks for the pretentious offer though. I will instead recommend you to women that wants to be DAZZLED BY YOUR TINY WEENY and also to Low-level unregistered non fee/tithe paying Catholic Atheists.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 11:48am On Dec 20, 2017
Tozara:
Speech impediment? Lol. You're the one who's expected to inherit your father's deficiencies, as I'm not in any way related to you---you're the mentally punctured macrophallus who's fixated on my proflie because he feels intimidated by men who're confident of their capacities, and ended up typing incoherent rubbish in a retãrded attempt to mimic my use of "hypo". The hell is that Holy Spirit-inspired sh¡t up there? grin

You got lost in the sublimity of my profound imaginations---and couldn't help but EMPHASIZE the DAZZLING effect my ideas have on you.

After I cure you of your SCOAN-induced CATARACT, do well to point out where the word "dazzle" appears on my profile, if you think it wasn't a result of the DAZZLING impression my profile had on you. grin
TOZARA, give up your mental delusions for one day. Look closely at how you write and what you say. Your dazzling verbiage gives your game away. It says to the world that you are a pretender. I would never mimic your pretentious words.

HYPO, DENINDERIN, MACROPHULUS, SUBLIMITY, CAPACITIES, PROFOUND, CATARACT, and more on your deluded profile.
WHY use words like this when all you are trying to say is that scientists are wrong and that their 22yr findings that ATHEISM is a mental disease is unfair.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 11:31am On Dec 20, 2017
Tozara:
Ah! Cursed be the bastard who manufactured this obsessed lunatic.

Are you pained by my profile? You have my permission to model yours after it. grin
TOZARA, don't break the esteemed Nairaland rules with cursing and swearing. I don't want the very strict moderators to ban you. We still have much to talk about.
I will not press the report button. I am very compasionate when talking with Low-level Atheists, therefore I have never ever reported any MENTALLY unstable idiot and I never will. You are free to vent your insanity on me, but watch out for the awesome moderators.

Now, let's get down to business. You want me imitate your profile. That won't work for me because the psychology of your deluded profile shouts.....TINY WEENY..... TINY WEENY !!

Honestly, I respect your chutzpah to come on Nairaland and promise women that you will DAZZLE THEIR VAGINAS with your tiny weeny

I do apologise if the truth hurts. But you hurt my feelings when you came out of the closet and revealed to the world that you are a Catholic Atheist. Damn, you need help.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 10:23am On Dec 20, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
when atheists discuss your Yahweh we discuss it from the point of fiction just like we discuss GOT, Harry Potter, Superman, Spiderman etc; I (dare I say we?) just use questions as these to (attempt to) snap some of you out of your delusions
Mmmmmm. It may be helpful to add here that when world religions discuss Atheists, one will think they are discussing the symptoms of a MENTAL DISEASE.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch:
Martinez19:
His post is so distorted that I can't believe a sane individual wrote this.
Correct. TOZARA hyped up his profile to hide his shallowness.
In his deluded profile, he markets his tiny weeny as a tool that will DAZZLE all vaginas.

Only a stutterer uses words like "Indinrindin" so he can gain sympathy from the heater. I do sympathize with TOZARA.

TOZARA sympathetically identify himself in his insane profile as a Catholic Atheist. I maybe wrong, but I think he is saying that he is a dazzling born again vaginal Atheist.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Does Yahweh Need Angels? by ScienceWatch: 9:01am On Dec 20, 2017
Tozara:
Mtchwwwww. So it's YOU?! The dindinrin of the religion section. The hypo of stupidity has scientifically washed away the tiniest stain of common sense and intelligence from your Christard life.

A lunatic that boldly declares that, "FAITH IS A BELIEF BASED ON EVIDENCE", disgracing the dictionary that has always made itself available for rational cripples like you.

What other evidence do I need?
Do you have a speech impediment Tozara. Do you stutter during orgasm? Are you the dindinrin of dazzling vaginas as your confusing profile indicate? Or is it the hypo of your uncontrollable lust that has made you expose your tiny weeny in public?

Go now and dazzle many vaginas, though I doubt that cool woman will be impressed with your egotistic and deluded profile. Only a person with a dysfunctional weeny will profile himself as a one that will "DAZZLE VAGINAS."
Christianity EtcRe: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by ScienceWatch: 7:39am On Dec 20, 2017
budaatum:
Hello ScienceWatch. I noticed you there. Any update on that thing you were getting me? One shouldn't go thinking things up with no evidence now. And then go about accusing others of ones own sins.
Hello BudaAtum, good to see you again. I was away for a while. It is good to be back to witness reality play out powerfully on this esteemed Nairaland platform. It is all good.

About Google admin, they sent me from pillar to post trying to track the removal of publication that ATHEISM is a mental disease.
After a few emails Google asked us to be patient as it is not a normal part of their public service.

The evidence will be ready soon. I agree with you that I am a sinner and tend to accuse others of my own SIN. It is a weakness Nairaland robust critique is helping me to resolve.
Christianity EtcRe: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by ScienceWatch: 5:37pm On Dec 19, 2017
butterflyl1on:
Everybody reads but not everybody understands. Case in point.... Consider one atheist on this thread called dalaman aka the salamander. He has been reading but has never understood anything.

The simplest of things posted on this thread causes his brain to combust and switch to error mode.

For theists, understanding is a breeze but for atheists it's a struggle.

Intelligence comes through understanding what one reads and not from mere reading.
Mmmmm interesting. I am wondering at the incredible revelations on this inspiring thread. It may be that Dalaman is not to blame for the difficulties presented throughout this debate, could the blame be with the inferior education system he was subjected to ?

We all know that in an inferior education system no understanding is required. You get all your grades by rote memory only.
I think a measure of compassion for Dalamans predicament is in order. I mean just look at the childish topic an esteemed Nairaland atheist wrote titled, WHY DO GOD HAVE ANGELS
Christianity EtcRe: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by ScienceWatch: 5:16pm On Dec 19, 2017
budaatum:
You know what nightingale? I'm going to disagree with you for the mere fact that you mistake KEB's ignorance for that of Christians generally. If you take him as your mean, you would be insulting Christians!

I do agree with your claim for atheists though. It is in fact reading that makes one an atheist.
I don't think you had a good day.I respectfully disagree with you, The king is respected and loved across many platforms.

I certainly must agree with you that too much reading makes one an Atheist. The world is overloaded with fiction that is corruptly published as NON-FICTION.
Christianity EtcRe: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by ScienceWatch: 4:37pm On Dec 19, 2017
butterflyl1on:
He did not talk about hybridization as a word but as a qualification of creation and evolution. You no get sense I swear down.

So explain this hybridization of creation and evolution that brought about special creation.

At least try and show that you saw the four walls of any school even if it is evening school alone.
You are really tooo tough on Dalaman Sir.
What Dalaman is really saying is that where he comes from (Big bang) hybridization is offensive.
Christianity EtcRe: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by ScienceWatch: 4:30pm On Dec 19, 2017
budaatum:
His IQ has been measured at 195[2] (although, at such high levels, IQ tests are highly unreliable) and he also claims to have scored a perfect SAT score while taking a nap during the test.[3] He's employed as a bar bouncer.[1]
This proves my point. Drinking drastically improves ones IQ.
Christianity EtcRe: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by ScienceWatch: 4:27pm On Dec 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
I have met many unintelligent atheists and that includes you .
Your comment may sound a tad bit harsh to a Low-level Atheists ear Sir, but it is scientiffically based. The king is very fortunate, he says he met many unintelligent atheists, while I am cursed to have met mostly stupid Low-level unregistered non fee/tithe paying Atheists.
Christianity EtcRe: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by ScienceWatch: 4:18pm On Dec 19, 2017
butterflyl1on:
LMAO cheesy cheesy

He is inbetwixt
falling off my Chair laughter. He is bewitched
Christianity EtcRe: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by ScienceWatch: 4:15pm On Dec 19, 2017
butterflyl1on:
Lol

They are illegal immigrants grin

Unfortunately they do not have large sized heads and green pigmentation as depicted in movies about aliens for us to be able to identify them at a glance. It is only when they speak that their alien identity is exposed. However people like dalaman are currently on the deportation list since they never cease to shut up about their alien identity so when the Lord shall come in his glory. All aliens and illegal immigrants will have their true place given to them.
Riding over the pavement kind of laughter. Lol extremely loud !!!
Christianity EtcRe: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by ScienceWatch: 4:11pm On Dec 19, 2017
dalaman:
You own na mental case. He clearly explained what special creation is. He said it's the hybridization of creationism and evolution. That is an explanation. But your mental issues won't allow you to see and comprehend.
TO remember facts and understand it are two hugely different skills as as you rotely know Dalaman. With respect, I can't fail to notice that you prefer rote memory when presenting your case to Marked superior intellectuals such as Kingabukasblog and Butterfly1on who thrive on the superior mental faculty called reason.

Please bear with me a little while longer, It would be most unfair to judge you with the same standards as humans. Therefore a gentle correction to the thrust of your own defense would be in order here. You have a good memory so I appeal to that when I say that Creationism and Evolution can never be hybridized because for that to be scientifically possible, Dark Matter must co-exist as the essence of both the accidental mishap of evolution and the awesome creationism characterised by superior intelligent design and flawless beauty and love.
Christianity EtcRe: Meet The Smartest Christian Alive With An IQ Reportedly Between 190 And 210 by ScienceWatch: 3:41pm On Dec 19, 2017
butterflyl1on:
He NEVER explained anything. An explanation offers detail. He only offered titles such as creationism and evolution and special creation. So where did you see any explanation? grin

Indeed your IQ is begging for help.
I notice that there is some intellectual conflict slowly brewing on the horizon between a human and another species. To be fair, the standards for judging IQ will be hugely different Sir. I dare say that in the heat of the moment you may be missing the important difference between you and Dalaman. You are a created being with sovereign citizenship of planet earth.
On the other hand, Dalaman is a self confessed accidental product of two miscreant planets. I have no reason to disbelieve him. It is just worrisome to have aliens among us. Who gave them permission to live on our planet ??

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