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Dunno. But I guess when one gets to some certain stages in life, there are responsibities one is expected to take on so some people hide their age to avoid such responsibilities. Conversely, as you grow older, there are some things or behaviours people expect you to drop. But some people hide their age to carry on with such acts. |
All of this for a stupid election. SMH. God have Mercy as some will say |
Nsibiri is very impressive, and it would be nice to see Igbos and other South Easterners using it as their official script once Nigeria is eventually dismantled. Indeed, I dream of an Africa where the various ethnic group do away with the latin script and they write instead with the many indigenous African script and also use their local languages as their official ones. Edit: Dont think it exists/existed. Found nothing else. |
An interesting debate it's been. |
I'm seriously wondering how many times some people here need to be told that there is NO Arabic on our naira. Only Hausa written in Ajami, an adapted form of Arabic script. It is like saying the Yoruba written on the naira is Latin beacause it is written in an adapted form of the latin script. Anyway, I'm not really concerned about the Ajami script being on the naira or not, I'm just uncomfortable with crass ignorance. PS. Even Japan with her fierce rivalry with China writes using Chinese script(Hanja, I think), as did Korea until she developed her own script(Hangul) in the 19th century. And I'm Yoruba, do the many other Yorubas here know Yoruba was once written in Ajami by Yoruba Muslims? I even have my own home-made "script" for Yoruba! |
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I'm 17, but I saw the old woman first. It took me about five seconds after I first looked to see the young woman. Afterwards, I saw both the old and young woman together, I'll go back to try and get my brain to see just one again |
Although, i understand that this was intended to be a thread to determine the cause of the expulsion of the Ghanians and how the events unfolded, i feel the need to digress a little because I'm a Yoruba kid and I'm distressed at the way we are being potrayed here( as people who loathe foriegners and cant compete favourably). I dont have the answer to the thread question as i have not been able to find credible and detailed information online. The little i have gotten so far say the oil boom was slowing down and the Nigerian economy suffering, so the people found a way to blame the ghanians who were thriving, for their woes. If the igbos were still coming out of war, didnt that give them an opportunity to leave their homeland and seek their livelihood where the aliens once where? Judging by igbo economic behaviour, that likely happened. Even if the yorubas did as some have alleged, does it not mean the Ghanians too are loathesome and cant compete economically? Yet, how did such a people come to threaten Nigerians economically that Nigerians even felt the need to expel them. If you download the larger file, and look at pages3 9 and 10, you'll find that the ghanians had their own version of ghana must go for the yorubas, a proverb that said God wasnt a Yoruba, and they thought we were magicians who could make money off anything etc. I'm merely saying all of this to show that human and economic dynamics are beyond what some have been saying here (kudos to the Ghanians for not attempting a witch hunt for the ethnic group that was to blame for the expulsion in their country) |
JiggamanGh: Pure lies, they were given adequate time and they were allowed to take their properties unlike what nigerians did to Ghana.well, I have provided credible links for you to check. Have you checked them? If you want to call me a liar, you should provide credible links too. This is the way i believe people debate: read the opponent's arguement, if you dont agree, provide yours |
This thread seems serious-minded so I apologise for my last comment and hope that my contributions would not be ignored. First let me say that uprooting a person from where he has built his life(economic, social and political) and has made his home can never be humane. But that sentiment not considered, there was still nothing humane about the expulsion. The Nigerians were given two weeks to leave the country. That wasnt a long time. If they had money in banks, and many did, they werent allowed to receive even a cent. They couldnt uproot their businesses with them nor their houses. It got so bad that, the Nigerians, being the most successful economic group then, could not even afford transport fares back home! so they couldnt even take their more portable possessions with them. They had to trek and many died on the trek back home. Those who did not leave before the 14 days were rough handled by Ghanian officials, their properties thrown out into the streets and they were booed, jeered and harrased by the Ghanians. It's not impossible nor unlikely that many more could have died then. The left behind properties and businesses were also looted, vandalised or taken over by the Ghanians. Also, the expulsion happened largely because the natives were losing out in the economic competiton and the demand for it was so popolur that the politicians thought it would help them gain political capital If you want to verify all that I've said or want to read more, you simply need to search "Why were Yorubas expelled from Ghana in 1969". Two pdf files top the search result. The second is more detailed and more focused on the Nigerian (read: Yoruba) angle but you'll probably wont have the patience to finish it. So download the short one with "memory and reminiscences of Yoruba" instead |
SonOfEl: see bias! Anyway, i have googled 'armed robbery' and criminals in nigeria, and a lot of yorubas seems to be in the mix. YOU ARE A LIAR.What bias? I can assure you that if you request for it again, I'll get you at least 10 links providing details on Igbos arrested across Yorubaland for various criminal practices. I've just thought there should be a limit when airing dirty linens in public. However, my challenge still stand. Can you get a link to a story about Yoruba robbers arrested in Igboland? Infact, I extend the search to any crime committed by a Yoruba in Igboland(not Nigeria, pls). One credible link from a credible online news plaftorm. Anyway, that isnt the point of my first post. Yorubas dont need Igbos. Your presence is causing Yorubas great harm and little good. Competing for economic opportunities with us when you have all the opportunities in your own land. Also, most of the business of so called Igbo traders has not been constructive for our economy. They are only after enriching themselves. Helping china dump inferior goods in our markets, importing fake goods(including drugs), and selling stolen goods amongst others. I have noticed only a few in the manufacturing sector to whom I'll give credit. The vast majority however, are just enriching themselves at the expense of our land. It is you who would have to deal with such people being unemployed if you leave our land. True, there'd be a vaccum(particularly and perhaps only in Lagos) but I trust in my people's ability to patch it up in no time |
CrudeGH: fuelish goat! senseless magg0t!'Ghanamustgo' is a part of Nigerian history so we have every right under the sun to discuss it. But, in any case, the purpose of the site is to discuss global events from a Nigerian perspective. And,this is a 'Nigerian' site as you've mentioned, so i wonder why you're here. Is there any Nigerian out there who's obsessed with Ghana? Stop it now. It's a waste of time. |
SonOfEl: it is your aspersion that has real evidence right? My conclusions are logical and relatable. You are only rigmaroling.you can try it urself. Search armed robbers arrested in lagos or any other yoruba state and see how many igbo names you come up with. |
SonOfEl: yeah...and it exposes your ethnistic bigotry. Yoruba has not guts for it, it dosent mean there are no yoruba inherent thieves in the east."Yoruba has no guts for it", and you accuse me of being an ethnic bigot. Smh. "inherent thieves"? Now you're just casting aspersions. If you do find any real evidence, let me know. |
SonOfEl: i guess u'd just have to wait then...I'm not waiting, I'm helping to spread the message that we need freedom from Nigeria. Let me end my posts here with something a friend once told me and a group of other friends(Igbo's included). He said that since the creation of Nigeria, he doubted if any Yoruba had been arrested for armed robbery in Igboland, and challenged anyone to prove him wrong with verifiable evidence. He then observed that even if we checked news reports for only a week, we'd find more than one case of Igbo armed robber in Yorubaland. Posts like this one make me laugh out loud. |
SonOfEl: legend has it that any place where igbos are not there is dead. U wan die?I hope you're being funny, but as I've said, leave and it is you who may have to deal with wide-spread unemployment. Anyway, I'm a supporter of an Independent Yoruba Nation, so Igbos gone or their activities better regulated, is something I want. |
SonOfEl: was i tackling ur pple? See inferiority complex at work o! Anyway, igbos will always be successful, whether at aba, onitsha, ph, lagos, ibadan, bida, kaduna, kano, zuru, abuja, etc.I made a comment about how we dont need Igbos in Yorubaland and you quoted it and commented, "I smell jealousy", who were you supposed to be referring to? Yes, you can be successful anywhere you like, but saying the economy of any Yoruba state would crumble in your absence is bullcrap. You'll only have millions of unemployed Igbo youths if you leave. Also, my post tried to highlight the criminal practices of most of these "traders" which has been responsible for Yoruba deaths and damages to Yoruba properties across Yoruba land. An example is in the link I provided of that man who sold stolen spare parts and made so great a fortune from it that he was given a traditional title. If he hadnt been caught eventually, he would have been touted as another succesful businessman. How many more like him are out there? Since by his own admission, most of the traders (read: Igbo) are selling stolen parts. We do not need you. |
SonOfEl: i smell jealousy...Jealousy, for stating facts? Whatever you choose to call yourself is your business. I'm supremely confident in my people's ability to manage their affairs and economy. |
mackmanuel: yea but igbo men will be the once running the business over thereYou wish |
I have been searching for information on the "Ghana must go saga", but nothing credible comes. I'll keep looking. These things are funny, I remember when the Ghanians chased the Yorubas out of Ghana in 1969 because they were too successful. Read about it here: http://www.imi.ox.ac.uk/pdfs/rasheed- olaniyi |
Yes, see how Igbo are developing Lagos with criminal practices here http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=64882 Summary: They advised him to rush down to Lagos, penniless and wretched after school, he did. He joined Ladipo Market and began the business of selling stolen motor-part, and was so successful and wealthy that his community gave him a traditional title. Whatever you choose to call yourself is your business, but leave Yorubaland and take your services with you, we dont want you nor do we need you. |