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@Ezeagu: never will the Eguns drop their language for Yoruba or viz-a-viz.

@Uweh: everybody has got the right to protect his/her possession and identity. They- as well as Badagrians or any other Ogu speaking community learn to inculcate the habit of preserving this culture thru which the parents and elders teach their young ones.

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Abagworo:
Igbos actually call other Igbos names and it is no way peculiar to Onitsha.We call other Igbos Igbo and we are still Igbo.Owerri people call other Igbos Isuama,Ngwa call other Igbos Ohuhu,Ikwerre call other Igbos Isoama.

What I meant was denial of Igbo and not what we call other Igbos.

@Abagworo: interesting

TewMuch:
It must really really suck to be Igbo. Chai! See you in pain after learning the truth.

Yoruba's are claiming Kwara? rotflmao. Kwara IS YORUBA! FACT! Yoruba Empire went all the way to Abuja, there are some people in Abuja towns that go by Yoruba names. Dont kill yourself oh.

Anyway back to sane people, I am trying to educate you on what has been lost in translation and what you dont know. So that elements like the Obiagu whose culture makes them talk like wild animals will not deceive you. i meant LTV8, sorry about that and i never claim what i dont know. Yoruba go waaaay back and always proud to identify ourselves as Yoruba. This actually disproves the fact that Yoruba is an European/hausa concoction. The group Yoruba has been known as Yoruba forever. And yes we know our history and people very very well. We dont claim people that are not ours, never have and never will. Maybe Egun lost their history over the years. But we have seen them ask the Alaafin for clarification on if they are "Anago" and foreigner's as some elements in Ogun wanted to use as an excuse to take over their lands. So you see, there is more than kinship and blood. In Ghana Yoruba have over 50 villages, but they do not speak OUR Yoruba or bear our Yoruba names.

http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/dewiki/en/Tabom_People

"Accordingly, the Egun Concerned Group strongly disagreed with the attempt to derisively referred to them as Anago which the Egun said there is no where in the history of Yoruba land some sections were called Anagos.

While making reference to their fact finding mission to Oyo Alaafin during the Alaafin of Oyo's birthday in 2006 and 2008 to find out if there was any tribe bearing Anago in Yoruba History and that the Alaafin denied it."

Why will they ask the Alaafin about their history?
http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47845:egun-faults-bodys-claim-on-ogun-community-&catid=42:commune&Itemid=796

I can't laugh

Obiagu1:
@ the bolded

I now understand why Yorubas are cowards and bitchy. No wonder.

@Obiagu1: ah, Ah, Ah, That's unkind of you. Can someone refer to the Igbos-I mean all- as being fraudulent by nature and you'd glad by it? You don't judge everyone by picking a sample.

@Tewmuch:

TewMuch:
Besides fashola has given egun people a spot on nta to promote their language so it doesnt seem like Awori's are trying to take advantage.
"THE NUBIAN TONGUE PRESERVES ITS AUTHENTICITY BY ABIDING TO ITS ANCIENT SPIRITUAL LEGACY. THIS IS EVIDENT IN THE ADA LANGUAGE OF THE GA-ADANGBE SUB-NATION, WHICH RETAINED THE ANCESTRAL NAME "NIMLOR" SPELT BY THE MODERN HEBREW,GREEK OR LATIN AS "NIMROID". THUS, A SAYING IN THE ADA LANGUAGE;- 'NOR NOR TSHAPI "NIMLOI" OR "NOMLOI", LITERALLY MEANS ;THIS PERSON IS NOT A "NIMROID" (NIMLOI). THIS SAYING IS ADDRESSED TO A PERSON WHO DO NOT POSSESS THE CHARACTERISTICS AND QUALITIES OF "NIMLOI" AS A WARRIOR, KING, AN ORACLE OR A PERSON OF HOLY SPIRITUAL PRACTICES. THEREFORE, A PERSON WHO IS NOT A GOOD PERSON, OR ANY PERSON OR PERSONS WHO WILL DO ANYTHING BAD MAY BE ADDRESSED AS "NOR NOR TSHAPI NIMLOI".

MANY THOUSANDS OF YEARS B.C. THE “ADA/KROBO”, “GA,” “GBE” AND OTHER RELATIVE NATIONS WERE PART OF THE "YOOHUBA" NATION (YORUBA), THEN PART OF THE SUMA/ UBAIDA PEOPLE WHO WERE ATTACKED OUT OF THEIR LAND BY TERRORISTS AND VANDALS. DUE TO THESE ATTACKS SOME OF THE NUBIANS WERE ENSLAVED WITHIN THEIR OWN NATIONS AND SUB NATIONS AND MOST OF THEM RELOCATED TO MANY RELATIVES AREAS ON THE NUBIAN CONTINENT NOW CALLED “AFRICA”. MOST CHANGED THEIR NATIONS NAMES DUE TO SECURITY REASONS, AND OTHER NAMES WERE CHANGED DUE TO EUROPEAN COLONIZATION, COUPLED WITH RELIGION AND LANGUAGE CONVERSIONS.

MANY OF THE (UBAIDAN) “IBADA” PEOPLE THEN OF THE SUMA TERRITORY CAN BE FOUND AMONG MANY TERRITORIES IN THE PRESENT AFRICA, MOSTLY IN NIGERIA'S YORUBA. YOO-RU-BA = THE FEMALE COUNTER-PART OF THE SUPREME DIVINE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE. THE MALE COUNTER-PART IS "NU". "
http://discussions.ghanaweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=79565&sid=0f58de18fe90f72f9961545e83a83931
Even Lamurudu/Nimrod is mentioned

that's investigatory of you. I find it good when we share common thoughts on the positives though to enlighten ourselves.
I guess you meant LTV and not the NTA?

http://www.ngex.com/nigeria/places/states/lagos.htm
Go and check at the link below to get it right that Badagry has the first storey buildings o Nigeria. Please be informed as well that I'm not judging civilization based on Religion or whatever but trying to get you informed that civilization came to Nigeria thru Badagry. How do you define civilization if not as being an "advanced and organised state of human social development"?( OXFORD ADVANCED LEARNERS DICTIONARY ). Thru Badagry, advanced ways of living entered Nigeria and that's all I'd say for now.

ezeagu:
The area that came to be known as Nigeria had civilisation before the arrival of Christianity and Western education. There were children in different parts of what is now Nigeria being schooled in different things before 1900, including writing. The Europeans only brought their own standard education. Christianity is not a measure for a civilisation, and the people already had their own religions. There is no proof that Badagry had the first 'storey building' in Nigeria, in fact, the whole idea Badagry having the first storey building in Nigeria in the 1800s is complete nonsense. Hausa architects had been building sotrey buildings at least 500 years before a missionary ever built anything at Badagry. There are Igbo war towers still standing that have multiple platforms. Benin architecture shows evidence of storied buildings.  Badagry does not have the 'first storey building in Nigeria', by far.

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PhysicsMHD:
apparently "Egun" is a Yoruba word meaning "bones"


http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/topic,463af2212,469f2ea82,3ae6ad6e7c,0.html



http://www.bioline.org.br/request?ep03009 (talks about the "Ogu" or Egun-speaking peoples and their family structure)

@PhysicsMHD: I don't mean to play down your intelligence and as well don't mean to insult you but that's rude of you not knowing what you really want to say. The Yoruba word "EGUN" with the ascent (re re) is far too different from "ÈGÙN" with the ascent (do do). These two words are only synonymous in spellings but not in pronunciation, they are two WIDE and distinct words. Always make posts of things so sure and confirmed please.

PhysicsMHD:
apparently "Egun" is a Yoruba word meaning "bones"


http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/topic,463af2212,469f2ea82,3ae6ad6e7c,0.html



http://www.bioline.org.br/request?ep03009 (talks about the "Ogu" or Egun-speaking peoples and their family structure)

@PhysicsMHD: I don't mean to play down your intelligence and as well don't mean to insult you but that's rude of you not knowing what you really want to say. The Yoruba word "EGUN" with the ascent (re re) is far too different from "ÈGÙN" with the ascent (do do). These two words are only synonymous in spellings but not in pronunciation, they are two WIDE and distinct words. Always make posts of things so sure and confirmed please.

TewMuch:
Mr Egun, get your story stright with your fair weather stories. Andre Uweh is a very mischevous fellow. See below:

"
The other two groups of Lagos State citizens are the Ogu people of Badagry and its environs, and the Ijebu in Ikorodu and Epe Local Governments.

Badagry town houses the first storey building in Nigeria, built in 1845 and still standing on its original site.

Badagry's original name was Gbagle a contraction of the word Ogbaglee, meaning in Ogu (not Egun as commonly mis-pronounced and mis-spelt) "a farmland near the swamp". The Ogu people are historically reputed to have migrated from the ancient Ketu.

Kingdom (part of Oduduwa's Kingdom) and they left Ile-Ife around the mid-13th century, for Accra in Gold Coast. The Ga/Ewe (Aja-Ogu) speaking group of today's Ghana are indeed the kith and kin of the Ogu of Badagry. "

http://www.ngex.com/nigeria/places/states/lagos.htm


Perhaps they bear Yoruba names because of their kinship with Yoruba's and so many inter-marriages. You can't deny your father's heritage Mr. Semasa no matter how certain elements will want to misconstrue it politically. Peace, knowledge is power.

that's interesting of you assuring your claims but be reminded that as much as I respect the authorship one thing stands clear in this that "Ogu" is the language not "Egun" as rightly said but "Egun" is the people itself and it should not be wrongly gotten that is outrightly Yoruba, its just the interrelationship that exists that bring them together and mind you, it was the Yoruba speaking community of Republic of Benin that migrated from Ile-Ife not the Eguns rather they do so from Ghana.

@Andre Uweh: you got me all correct. Egun or local names are quite important than foreign names for identity and originality purpose and cultural promotion as well.

@TewMuch: the multi-ethnicity in Nigeria doesn't mean that Egun is a subset of Yoruba, rather it simply means they're considered or grouped as Yorubas simply because they fall on the same geopolitical zone. I need you to convince me that a Calabar indigene considering self as an Igbo or others doing same.

@PhysicsMHD: Yeah! But it must not continue this way. Had it not been for the efforts of Governor Fashola, its possible some areas will remain as it is in Badagry town.
@Ezeagu: perhaps you don't know that education was brought to Nigeria thru Badagry even Christianity and the likes. And mind you, Badagry has the first storey building in Nigeria, check on your facts.

@Isinweke: that's just it, I'm proudly an Egun boy and had never denied it once even when the odds are low. It'd be better if Egun indigenes bear their local names, mine is Semasa as well and I cherish it so much.

@Afam4eva: yes it is but that does not mean Yoruba names must overwhelm Egun names. Have you seen a Chinese bearing others name?

If there's anything I'm proud of, its definately being an Egun boy and I stand for it anywhere and I'm as well proud you do. It'd be alarming if you get to know that I'm not even fluent as you suppose despite living there which is why I'm doing my possible best now being fluent in it. Circumstances is however never an excuse as you rightly said but we all have that duty of protecting what is ours-that's one thing I admire the Igbos and most Asians of. I'd gladly get to join your league of members on the group soon, I'm happy getting across to someone as well from my origin like you

If there's anything I'm proud of, its definately being an Egun boy and I stand for it anywhere and I'm as well proud you do. It'd be alarming if you get to know that I'm not even fluent as you suppose despite living there which is why I'm doing my possible best now being fluent in it. Circumstances is however never an excuse as you rightly said but we all have that duty of protecting what is ours-that's one thing I admire the Igbos and most Asians of. I'd gladly get to join your league of members on the group soon, I'm happy getting across to someone as well from my origin like you

One major identity of any race without mincing words is their language. There is absolutely no race without an identified language to its roots. The Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary, language is "the system of sounds and words used by humans to express their thoughts and feelings". Taking note of this, I wonder what the future holds for each culture or say ethnic group if their form of expression of feelings and thoughts are lost! A total loss I hear someone say? It is a big shame to cover up one's origin in the name of civilization and exposure.
I was born and nurtured in Badagry and had been living a few of my last four yrs now of my entire life out of Badagry but I can say it with all dignity that I am ashamed of most indigenes of this particular community called Badagry who deny this town of its pride only to come home during periods of their needs to get support and run off without looking back. 'if you fail to impact on your community, your community will fail to regard you'.
To get right on the point, parents are just not worth it being praised for their lack of seriousness to see that at least a minimal of their culture-the language is impacted on their wards; you can imagine a family where both are intra-related and understand the language and they fail to teach their children the ABC of their language? Excuse can be granted to inter-married couples but not sufficient likewise a big shame to those who fail to learn it as well forgetting very soon, history will never forget them to have ignored their moral obligation and with this, make the language extinct.

It is high time we all, regardless of our background, go back and learn our identity and try not to make our identity lost forever in history just like the dinassours had been.
Stand up for a just course now, our language must gain its pride amongst the rest and never be lost forever.

One major identity of any race without mincing words is their language. There is absolutely no race without an identified language to its roots. The Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary, language is "the system of sounds and words used by humans to express their thoughts and feelings". Taking note of this, I wonder what the future holds for each culture or say ethnic group if their form of expression of feelings and thoughts are lost! A total loss I hear someone say? It is a big shame to cover up one's origin in the name of civilization and exposure.
I was born and nurtured in Badagry and had been living a few of my last four yrs now of my entire life out of Badagry but I can say it with all dignity that I am ashamed of most indigenes of this particular community called Badagry who deny this town of its pride only to come home during periods of their needs to get support and run off without looking back. 'if you fail to impact on your community, your community will fail to regard you'.
To get right on the point, parents are just not worth it being praised for their lack of seriousness to see that at least a minimal of their culture-the language is impacted on their wards; you can imagine a family where both are intra-related and understand the language and they fail to teach their children the ABC of their language? Excuse can be granted to inter-married couples but not sufficient likewise a big shame to those who fail to learn it as well forgetting very soon, history will never forget them to have ignored their moral obligation and with this, make the language extinct.

It is high time we all, regardless of our background, go back and learn our identity and try not to make our identity lost forever in history just like the dinassours had been.
Stand up for a just course now, our language must gain its pride amongst the rest and never be lost forever.

It is a mere write-up to write the history of Lagos with no mention of Badagry neither can you write of Nigeria or the wider West Africa and Africa ignoring Badagry as well. Though the name, Badagry, came out of oral misuse of the name Gbagleme, it has never been a Bad-agreement land as assumed by some.
Notably, Badagry had the first Christmas, first storey building and the likes been started all here and even the legendary Bishop Ajayi Crowther stayed in the storey building to translate the English Bible to Yoruba there. So far so good, the town has witnessed little or no significance change despite being the spear-head of most of innovations so to say in Nigeria.
I wonder sometimes how the state of the town as been and thanks at least to the governor who made some democracy impact felt with a better road network in the town and some lightening as well. At this age now, where does Badagry hopes to be in the nearest future? Can it be likened to the likes of Ajah, V.I., Lagos Island, Ikeja and the likes soon?

I'd advise everyone or the concerned people to ignore calling anyone for any admission process. You might end up regretting this at the long run.

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