₦airaland Forum

IronGalaxy:
You are not "envied" in South Africa, you're reviled. Two different things, don't mislead others with lies

You should have left the previous write up you posted. It was closer to the truth that this obvious propaganda push.

If we were so reviled you would have stopped taking our visa and flight ticket money, closed your embassy and cut of all diplomatic relations.

Murketeer:
What did somebody like Chidinma who was born in SA and grew up there with SA friends , relatives etc do to warrant such disgusting hatred from you guys

She didn't do anything and is a victim is as much as is the "alleged" girl who's identity was stolen and who has been reported to have received a new one.

The South Africans transferred their anger, hate and envy for Nigerians unto the poor girl and are demonizing her to continue their narrative of being victims to these hordes of immigrants entering their Kontry.

Murketeer:
Maybe it's just dislike or hatred ...you guys are not supposed to be hating on Nigerians ... Deep down..most Nigerians have a soft spot for south Africans

Eh My brother speak for yourself o, me I don't have any soft spot for those people. They are suffering from PATSD- Post Apartheid stress disorder and are taking it out on migrants.

The problem with them is that they are essentially a third world country running around pretending to be a first world country and it is coming back to bite them in the azz. They cannot deal with the western styled laws and constitution on and are reverting back to their "essential" African state of mind which is tribalism, xenophobia and lawlessness.

IronGalaxy:
Lol, trying to sound deep again

Look, your "self hatred" argument would have flew if I saw noting when Chinese ate dogs but criticized Nigerians only..

As things stand, dog-eating is nasty regardless of who's doing it, whether Chinese, Koreans or Nigerians , same with open-defecation , whether its Indians or Nigerians its still nasty.

Good. Tell your people ( advocate Ike Khumalo) to criticize it as loud as we see them they criticize that of Nigerians so we know you are fair and just in your complaints.

IronGalaxy:
You're showing me weddings my guy.. am I supposed to be impressed by this, or? Lol.. what does this even prove?

It buttresses the desirability argument.

IronGalaxy:
I literally said nothing about Chinese people, you did.. I didn't even compare the two..you did.. how you reach the conclusion of "self -hatred" that's your usual delulu..

I pointed out your dog eating as vile and nasty of which it is.. whether Chinese do the same, its irrevant to my point..

Drawing parallels exposes the conclusion of self-hatred.

IronGalaxy:
Source for common logic? Hahaha

As I said you have nothing to back up your "availability" claim.

We all know you don't like the fact that these ladies desire Nigerian men as husbands.

Please stick to your own ladies and stop hating on these very desirable Nigerian men.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM914Q1xSsg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po52qDymg2M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KHMr7nVCtQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJenW8w9hso

RandDigital:
You were calling Ghana great when it was going up and down making noise about SA.

We defeated them at AU. There'll be no discussing SA at AU summits or Isra-hell observer status.

Isra-hell ran to Trump for protection against SA 🇿🇦🏆🏆🏆🏆

Ghana was very correct in scaring your government into making sure Foreign nationals were not humiliated by your people.

The decision by the AU was not a win for you but only in accordance with the concept of not exacerbating or interfering in on going internal issues within African states and not because they did not believe you guys were not wrong.

You brought about the problems with Israel when you interfered in their internal matters in the so called name of "justice" while in your own backyard calling for the end to the upholding human rights.

Your country is a walking contradiction.

RandDigital:
We need strong independent countries there. Not puppets.

You are accusing Ghana of not being independent when you are a compromised country via China.

They are doing all kinds of illicit things in your country and you don't have the guts to say anthing about it.

Meanwhile you are bothered at a small African country trying to make moves.

Self hatred.

RandDigital:
South Africa called for expanded BRICS and AU inclusion in G20. For decades it was the only African country there.

So why are you mad at Ghana.

Obilikom:
The problem of most of you is that you don't like traveling

The Algeria you are romancing right now , if I take you there ..I swear you will run in the next 5 hours

But what do you know 🤣🤣🤣🤣

You dey mind person wey never even visit him neighbor Botswana that is 4 hours away from Joburg by road.

RandDigital:
SA should block this Israeli puppet from gaining membership, not even partner status.

You thought BRICS was only going to do business with you in Africa.

Shame.

IronGalaxy:
Still crying over the obvious I see.. classic Seppuku.

My "availability argument" is common sense..
Don't hide behind "being disliked" because I didnt stroke your humongous ego

Kindly post the source for that write up. I want to see something.

IronGalaxy:
You are literally a narrative that doesn't exist to sound deep.

Misdirection.

Defend the below:

Nigerians are not like us because they eat dogs. Inference, we are better than Nigerians.

We are not bothered by Chinese people despite the fact that they eat dogs too. Inference we are less that Chinese.

Conclusion- Self-hatred.

You cannot defend the indefensible. Concede.

IronGalaxy:
Yes, numbers of documented people.. your beloved StatsSA can't quantify numbers of illegals.. we've been through this like, a thousand times

The numbers in StatsSA makes room for undocumented people. Your government agencies keep numbers so much so that we can tell how many visitors exit and enter South AFrica but in the same breadth they are way off on illegal migrants.

PROPAGANDA!!!

https://southafricafacts.co.za/illegal-immigration-in-south-africa-where-things-stand-in-2026/

How many undocumented people are actually here
Estimates of South Africa's undocumented population have long been a political football, and the gap between the numbers thrown around at rallies and the numbers Statistics South Africa can actually defend is enormous. Stats SA's most recent survey puts the country's total immigrant population, documented and undocumented combined, at roughly 3.1 million people, or about 5.1% of the population.That is far below the 15 to 30 million figure that some anti-immigration campaigners have circulated. It is, however, somewhat above the global average of about 3.7% of the world's population living outside their country of birth.[2]

Refugees and asylum seekers make up a small slice of that. The country hosts around 75,000 recognised refugees and 165,000 asylum seekers, a number that peaked back in 2015 and has been declining since.[1] None of this means undocumented migration is not a real issue for the country's institutions. It means the scale is smaller, and the picture more complicated, than the loudest voices on either side suggest.

IronGalaxy:
Lol, so what if Chinese dogs too, does it make it less gross?

No but it demonstrates your self hatred. Where is the outrage by your people who share the same space as them.

Too scared to offend your BRICS masters eh!

IronGalaxy:
Your own Newspapers report your open defecation figures.. im inclined to trust them

Fair enough, I trust those numbers by StatsSA too.

IronGalaxy:
Long winded write ups disputing the utterly obvious..

Place 100 Cameroonians in China , theyre likely.to get mates there, simple, straightforward, logical..
But ofcourse

Place 1 million Europeans in an African country with 35 million African women and most of them are likely to get mates there.

Your availability argument falls flat. Please don't let your dislike for Nigerians obscure your sound judgement.

IronGalaxy:
wear your medal with pride.. don't worry, one day youll enter 21st century civilization with us

How can we trust these facts. You haven't exprienced our lived experiences to pass judgment.

IronGalaxy:
You and us are not the same

You are absolutely right. We eat Dogs, an unacceptable trait to South Africans.

Chinese eat dog too and have shops all over South Africa.

Self hatred.

IronGalaxy:
You do not know what you're arguing..

Mixed races where created in South Africa precisely because of that.. its exactly why colored people, have white, Asian, khoi, bantu, blood..

Under Apartheid, Mixed race unions were illegal..

I know exactly what I am arguing Mfethu. The case of the European arrivals in the cape and the few hundreds of Khoi and Asian slave women "necessitated" mixing. In this case the availability argument holds before the "illegality" laws came into play.

In the case of your "availability" argument, this logic/premise does not hold true why, because there is no "true" distal isolation that restricts the settler population from finding their "own" kind to cohabitate.

A Nigerian man in China is not restricted to marrying a Chinese woman because of the lack of "availability of his own women.

This also holds true in contemporary South Africa and yet you are not even 25% mixed race after 600 years.

Nothing to do with availability my friend.

IronGalaxy:
However fact remains, 100 Bururndian men in Latvia, majority will get with Latvian women, its primal.. its the pool available, its common logic, its not that Burundian men have become suddenly "desirable" ..

A lot of Ethiopians and indian men in the Maryland area in the US. A majority of the men are married to Ethiopian and Indian women. THe availabillity argument falls flat on its head again.

IronGalaxy:
Apples and bananas
The Cameroonian men example is 100 Cameroonian men in China against 50 million Chinese women.. A good 80+ Cameroonian men will get Chinese women, its a numbers game, not a "desirability" one

South Africans black people gravite to their own, same with Indians, etc.. mixed race unions are outliers not the norm, its the same in the US

No its apples and apples.

2.5 million European men in South Africa against 35 million black/bantu women. A good 2 million of the men should be able to get Black women. Tis a numbers game.

As far as your gravitate to their own argument, It doesn't work because it faults your availability arguement and strengthens my "desirablity" argument. Most people don't gravitate to their own based on availability.

IronGalaxy:
I didnt school under "bantu education" or experience apartheid, so what does apartheid and bantu education have to do with me.mixing words up?

You are expressing the effects of epigenetic trauma.

IronGalaxy:
irrelevant semantics..
Throwing "bantu education" jibes while sitting on 65% literacy rate will never not be wild btw

I repeat a premise is not the same thing as speaking within context.

Blame apartheid not me.

IronGalaxy:
Lol, if I take 100 Cameroonians and leave them in China, who are they likely to marry, date or impregnate? Chinese women.. that's how it works, its not like you're sought after..

If your scenario were true, the population of South Africa would have been 50% mixed race by now. All those available strong Zulu men and those whites and indians just like sticking to their own don't they?

IronGalaxy:
ofcourse you'll latch on the irrelevant, classic seppuku style..

The original premise was South Africans don't want Nigerians in their country wasnt ?

Eh don't blame me for bantu education. A premise and context are not the same thing.

A premise is a specific statement or "proposition" that serves as the foundation for an argument or inference

Context- the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood

IronGalaxy:
It is true... you're available not "desirable".. im dead certain there are Nigerians in lily-white Estonia, and if there's a snowbunny over there with a thing or a fetish for chocolate, guess who they'll turn to.. Chinese and Indians on the other hand tend to gravitate to their own if not, they choose whites.. Nigerians take anything that comes

1. There are plenty "available" Chinese and Indians in Lily white Estonia whether they are "desirable" or not so the point is moot.

2 It's the other way round, people take Nigerians because they are desirable mates despite the fact that in most of these countries, they can choose a plethora of other "desirables". Why would a chinese person in China pick a Nigerian based on availability when she has a good million chinese to select from. Your point is moot.

IronGalaxy:
Yes, I spoke specifically about infantile Nigerian men, and you tried rebutting my point by counter-arguing that you wouldn't be "desirable" if you were indeed "infantile" because " most women don't like infantile men" , I then argued back by saying women don't like men that defecate in public either, and Nigerian men do that a lot..

Context is everything my friend and in myresponse the "context" was infantile Nigerian" men.

Sorry you have failed in your "Gotcha" moment

IronGalaxy:
Its not a matter of "if".. South Africans are generally gatvol of Nigerians.. this is a fact you and I know, not voting for ActionSA has nothing to do with thay fact.. a lot of parties make promises people still dont vote for them.

Then how are you gonna dispense them out of your country if not by "legal" means via legislation, law, constitutional change e.t.c.

I always knew you were extreme but never took you an anarchist?

IronGalaxy:
They say every second person who is black that you ever gonna meet is a Nigerian, so the issue here is not one of "desirability", it is one of availability

If this were true, the Chinese and Indians would have the highest number of non Chinese/Indian spouses but we know that's not the case.

IronGalaxy:
We were talking about things women dont like, which includeds infantile men and unclean men

No, YOu talked about infantile Nigerians. I replied to the subject about infantile Nigerians.

IronGalaxy:
You took 2 ot 4 people who said those things and made it a narrative.. it is not.. people want Nigerians out of South Africa for serious things than that

1. You don't have to fib to defend your point. This is a wide known fact.

2. If people really wanted Nigerians out of South Africa your PA and ActionSA party would have won large numbers in your last elections. You are a member of a fringe group of growing rightwing nationalist anti immigrant South Africans. Don't delude yourself.

Lets see what your two Abahambe parties do come November.

Don't forget to vote neh!

RandDigital:
People associate West Africa with Nigeria - for negative reasons.

No they don't. It is easy to distinguish a Senegalese of Gambian man from a Nigerian man and Francophones are easily identified from their demeanor.

RandDigital:
Those chocolate mens in Senegal and Burkina Faso are more delicious.

Ewwwwww, talking about men like that. Are you female?