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Stolen:
ABEG, LEAK THE EXPO, U KNOW I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT PLACE.


I HAVE NOT REACH THERE BEFORE.

My brother all I can say is beware of La XHOSA -NOSTRA.

All the other ladies are manageable but Xhosa. No try am

Stolen:
I WILL VISIT SA SOON TO MARRY 1 WIFE, WHICH TRIBE SHOULD I GO FOR NOW?



THEY SAY XHOSA ARE VERY BEAUTIFUL

XHOSA!!

You wan die be that. Those ones will poison you and leave you to decompose in your house.

NO TRY Am!

Stolen:
IS IT THAT U PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE LAND OR WHAT?

I DONT BUY THAT TRADITION PART, DEATH IS THE END TO ALL THINGS, THE BODY RETURNS BACK TO THE EARTH TO ROT.


IN JOHN 19:30 JESUS DECLARES IT IS FINISHED AS HIS FINAL WORDS BEFORE DYING ON THE CROSS.


AN AFRICAN CANNOT BE DENIED BURIAL ON AFRICAN SOIL, YET BURIED IN EUROPE, INDIA, AMERICA, CHINA, RUSSIA, SOMETHING IS ALOOF.


DO U HAVE WHITE(EUROPEAN/INDIANS) BURIALS?

The South Africans are afraid that even in death the Nigerians are chancing them in their country.

Nothing more than Kolomental.

Jman06:
Just imagine that. I'm sure that if South Africa comes under attacks by any of the western countries, they'll expect solidarity and support from Nigerians. That's when they'll remember that we're all Africans and blacks.

They will not. The new tic tock generation of South Africans are disconnected from the Old Cadre of freedom fighters and Pan Africans that once were.

They have been programmed to adopt a nationalist, right wing view of the world which is the popular "Donald trump style" geo-politics of today.

Juxtapose the kind of rhetoric you here from them with rantings from neo fascist propaganda about immigrants in Europe and America and swap Nigerian gangs for MS-13 Mexican gangs in the US and you will see the similarities.


Stop seeing Saffers as African brothers. They are another breed.

Jman06:
Why not single out the criminals and deal with them accordingly instead of rubbing the crimes of a few Nigerians on the rest who are law-abiding and doing legitimate jobs in South Africa? It is only insecurity and bigotry that make you SAns hate Nigerians due to the crimes of a few bad eggs.

Their police and Politicians are in cohots with these criminal elements funneling funds in and out of the country.
The Pakistanis and South Americans are bringing the drugs into their countries via ports in Durban.
The Chinese are distributing to the lower cadre Nigerian mafia gangs and these Nigerianhoodlums are the front men selling to their people.

Na only Nigerians dem dey see for the whole thing but again that is South Africans for you.

The propaganda is real.

RandDigital:
Covers all of Limpopo all the way to the border.

I think Gauteng also wants to get it's goods into the rest of the continent faster.

"In addition to passengers, the Gauteng Provincial Government previously said the train will be used to transport high-value goods and perishable foods."

No surprise that nobody here actually cares about this news. Don't you have a forum you can report this and get relevant responses.

Just saying.

Jman06:
What offence did Nigerians commit against South Africans to deserve this depth of hatred? During the apartheid regime in SA, Nigeria stood and fought the apartheid with native South Africans yet SAns have completely forgotten those years of cordial relationship with Nigeria! Too bad

Ahh don't bring up Nigeria and apartheid for South Africans o. This new generation no send you. People that can't even recognize Mandela picture on their own money.

They are Xenophobic. Na vex cause am.

Mrexcell:
Why are they extending the hate to even a dead body that's totally harmless? That's completely insane and inhuman what if the SA lady couldn't afford to transport the corpse to nigeria won't the south african authorities be forced to bury the body by themselves?

You dey ask question for people wey their heart na Xenophobia full am.

You never experience South African people.

Make I yarn you.

WizardOfNG:
Yes this is a reasonable explanation but I have taken this into consideration mentioning in an earlier post that this uproar against this man's burial would be justified if legal, religious or cultural restrictions applied.

Yet look at the response of your fellow SAs here, like RandDigital, who began talking about the criminal reputation of Nigerians as justification for this development?

Go and look at the twitter comments as well, to the video of the man's hearse being repelled, to note your explanation did not feature in most response.

Rather it is "go and bury him in Abuja" and "it is an abomination". Claiming it is an "abomination" a Nigerian be buried in South Africa is acceptable to Nigerians how?

I appreciate your explanation but I believe the wider issue revealed is the unreasonable hatred most south Africans host for Nigerians that has compromised all levels of your thinking.

Most law-abiding Nigerians are ashamed of the Nigerians commiting crime in your nation and we advocate you deal with them to the full extent of you laws. That does not mean you take a "lynch all Nigerians" mentality over every issue concerning Nigerians in your nation.

This bereaved woman's request concerns crime how? It is final burial rites she wants to observed for her beloved. A private issue in virtually all nations of the world to include Nigeria.

Why then did most South Africans commenting online, and even her on Nairaland, made it about "Nigerian criminals must be buried in Abuja"?

My Brother stop wasting your breath. The propaganda going on in South Africa about Nigerians is on another level.

Avoid those people if you can. They will take out their life frustrations on any Nigerian criminal or not.

Xenophobes are not logical they are emotional.

KingCold:
You are now jusy typing epistles where you barely say anything..

I said leave us alone with our soon-to- be " banana republic" what are you still crying for?

Says the Man who is hanging around a Naija forum talking about SA issues.

You can Voetsek from here and you won't be bothered ever again.

KingCold:
Stop acting like we owe you anything then, that simple

Yes, all countries that have a migrant problem are all countries that tried to be nice, and they're all finding out the hard way... ie. South Africa, the UK, Sweden et al.. ..

It's not about being nice Mfethu, it's about the ethos of a country and what they want to represent. Many Western countries for most of the 2oth centruy adopted and promoted the concept of multicultural societies and liberal democracies that promote human rights.

The world became smaller in terms of its connectivity and many people in impoverished countries began to access to these countries and flooded their gates which created the problem of the citizen right against the fundamental human right and viola you have the problems you are facing.

As I have explained, you can't have it both ways. Change your constitution and become like your typical African country or Russia. That liberal constitution only benefits those in your country who are attached or adapted to a western style democracy/civilization.

KingCold:
If you have a Zimbabwean crossing the border to get medical help in SA is the problem of YOUR governments, you fail to hold to account and we have to suffer the consequences..

You want an answer to that riddle. The answer is both, both governments are responsible. An unstable region will cause instability within that region.

KingCold:
And yes, I bring up Kenyans because they're the only Africans I see fighting for their destinies instead of "japa" to burden others in their countries...

If Nigerians are not fighting for their country then why are 150 million plus of them still there.

KingCold:
And yes, please don't come, we're so tired of you.. leave us with our soon-to-be "banana republic"

The glory days of South Africa are long gone, what is left for you now is something that is slowly deteriorating into "another" African country and this is your worst fear. Stay and fight. If you are lucky you have about 50 more years to live. Do with your time what you wish brave man.

The migrants you are punishing are simply a reflection of your own worst nightmare. No, We are not coming. The only thing I will miss out there is the girls with big nyash. That's about it.

KingCold:
First of all South Africa is not the Santa Claus of African countries.. Before criticizing our government, hold your own governments accountable. What's stopping you? Why are we having Zimbabweans looking for medical help in South Africa? What's wrong with Zimbabwe? or Nigeria? You guys aren't our responsibility, we have our own problems for God's sake, we can't possibly take care of y'all, that's why I love Kenyans.. they face their corrupt government head-on!, the rest of you are docile asf and look for freebies but develop big mouths while you're here in SA, we don't owe you jack!

Who says you owe anybody anything. You have a migrant problem because you signed a 1961 Geneva convention that allowed for asylum seekers to find refuge in your country. Your countrymen wrote the constitution that explicitly stated in clear words that healthcare was accessible to "all" who reside within the borders of South Africa. They could have said "citizens" only.

Your economy is the only one in Africa that draws a considerable amount of White monopoly capital and white disposable income from European countries hence the draw and influx of migrants.

I simply told you to face your government and make the changes there like civilized Africans so you can distinguish yourself from the rest of us "savage' Africans that can't keep our countries straight and you are bring up Kenyans and are vexing with me. Shame!

KingCold:
Our social systems are burdened, this is a fact!!.. i.e, health systems. We have locals in hospitals in Musina having to sleep on the floors to make way for Zimbabweans from across the border! This is not acceptable !! Our tax is burdened, we have people receiving Road Accident Funds at our expense, but still complain. Our prisons are also overcrowded, this is another fact.. Our government minister is already looking for ways to deport foreign prisoners. If you really feel hard done by South Africans, stop going there and spare us the daily moaning and whining

Your social systems are overburdened because of underfunding and corruption. If a hospital allows a South African sleep on the floor to "make way " for ZImbabweans then that hospital is stupid and that is not the fault of the migrant.

Your prisons are overcrowded with your people inside them Statistically speaking only 1 in 10 foreigners is in your jails. How does that amount to overcrowding by foreigners. Shame the spin. Deport the prisoners We have no problems there neh.

I encourage every African to avoid going to the soon to be Banana republic called South Africa except for the white run Cape town. Investors are avoiding you like a plague and Africans in general should avoid going there if they can so I am on your side.

KingCold:
"There are civilized ways to take action." dude, are your people civilized? The same people who attack our cops and storm our hospitals, demanding medical attention...do they do this in their home countries? We're taken for a ride here, yes, our government has inefficiencies, but this doesn't give you the right to act entitled in our country. We are frustrated at them for allowing you to do as you please.. South Africa is a banana republic

Ehhh, have you read your constitution lately. There in lies your bane. Change it so you can become like every other dictatorial African state. You cannot function on such a democratic and liberal constitution, not on this continent. Stop playing Euro Africa!

KingCold:
Funny, how when it comes to South Africa, you guys have questions and demands for days, "why can't your government deport", "why can't your parliament pass laws", "why can't your government do this and that" when in fact you should be directing questions to your own governments and demanding they provide services to deter you from going to far-flung countries like South Africa to burden it's people.. Have the same heat for your own governments

Ahh stop crying like a baby Mfethu. Is talking about your country what is paining you. You must grow up neh and see that you are living in 2025 where the world is a small village now.

KingCold:
Stop being in denial. This has nothing to do with some conspiracy theory, Gayton, the PA party, or the tooth fairy.. Some of our prisons having more foreigners than locals, it's according to the findings of the Correctional Service Committee, which is the Government! Nothing to do with an individual party here. you desperately want to push this victim narrative where foreigners are these helpless victims facing "xenophobic" backlash, this played-out card won't work with me. Overcrowding of prisons and certain prisons having more foreigners than locals are two very different things. I'm certain our government is privy enough not to conflate the two.



Stop putting words in my mouth. Nobody said the majority of foreigners were criminals. The fact of the matter is, they're part and parcel of the crime wave we experience in South Africa; we cannot run away from this fact, especially the undocumented ones.. We wouldn't be sitting with jails with more foreigners than locals in some jails if that wasn't the case..

Yes because out of every 10 prisoners 1 being a foreign national is really crippling your prison system. I agree terrible crisis of overcrowding.

KingCold:
You acknowledge there's a migrant problem in South Africa, so what exactly is this "migrant problem" if it doesn't come with it's peculiar problems like the burdening of social systems, overcrowding, crime, etc.. the very things South Africans are complaining about, the very things you call "kaak@? So you're essentially acknowledging there are problems but you want us to voice our problems in manner that doesn't offend you or make you uncomfortable. Forget it

You have the right to deport illegals in your country and expedite due process in doing so. Why has your parliament not passed laws to do this, what is your government waiting for?

You have to right to deny social services i.e. hospital services to "illegal"migrants within the confines of your constitution that fortunately or I need say in this case unfortunately, guarantees healthcare to all who are "present" within your borders. Why are you not doing so?

You have the right to arrest criminal syndicates and expedite deportations out of the country. Why is your government not doing so. What are they waiting for

You are frustrated at the overall inefficiencies of your government and are taking it out on migrant communities who are "generally" helpless.

Your general in Kwazulu natal is echoing these frustrations as well as he proves that your government is in on all these corrupt practices and failures. Look to them to resolve your issues.

Storming hospitals and blocking people who are seeking immediate healthcare on the grounds that you are being patriotic and protecting "South Africans" is infantile. Demonizing a vulnerable population so you can justify your actions against them is also childish.

There are civilized ways to take action. Your dudula is not one of them.

There are reasons men fight and die to uphold constitutions and how they are worded.

KingCold:
Congratulations, for proving the obvious..

.Of course South Africans will make the majority of prisoners in South Africa duh?? Most prisoners in Nigeria are Nigerian right??

However, the headlines I've posted explicitly say in some prisons foreign inmates outnumber locals, which is abnormal whichever way you look at it..

Show me any African country with the same distinction

Can you name the prisons with the higher foreigner populations to Local populations? Your Department of corrections should have that info shouldn't they?

The headline is misleading and conflating overcrowding of prisons with the percentage of non South AFricans in prison. They are independent of each other and not causal but when you put them side by side you want us to believe that foreigners commit more crimes that locals so you can demonize them.



The fact remains that the overwhelming majority of migrants do not commit crimes in SA when comparing the percentages of migrant prisoners to their overall population size.

Tell Gayton and the PAtriotic alliance not falling for right wing propaganda.



Disclaimer; I continue to acknowledge that there is a migrant problem in South Africa and this needs to be addressed by regularization, border control and deportations. The rest of these flimsy justifications are Kaak

KingCold:
LOL, trying be cryptic ..hahaha. youre so unintentionally funny... I already said go and dig.. get the narrative you desperately want

As you wish

South Africa's Prison Population: A Demographic Breakdown

MTD Research Specialists
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January 11, 2025
South Africa's prison system houses a diverse population, with various factors influencing its composition. Here's a breakdown of the key demographics:

Nationality:

South African Citizens: The majority of prisoners are South African citizens, accounting for approximately 89.5% of the total prison population [Source: Department of Correctional Services (DCS) Annual Report].
Foreign Nationals: Foreign nationals make up the remaining 10.5% of the prison population. This includes individuals from various countries across Africa, as well as other regions.

Undocumented Immigrants: While precise figures are difficult to obtain, official data from the Department of Correctional Services suggests that undocumented immigrants make up a relatively small proportion of the foreign national prison population, likely around 2,000 individuals out of a total of over 140,000 prisoners [Source: Department of Correctional Services (DCS) presentation on Foreign Nationals in Prisons, 2023].

Gender:

Males: Men constitute the vast majority of the prison population, comprising around 95.7% of all inmates.
Females: Women represent a significantly smaller portion, making up only 4.3% of the prison population.

Age:

Adults: The majority of prisoners are adults, with the age distribution peaking between the ages of 25 and 34.
Minors: A small percentage of the prison population consists of minors, typically under the age of 18.

Race:

Black Africans: Black Africans make up the largest racial group in the prison population, accounting for approximately 70% of all inmates.
White Africans: White Africans represent a smaller proportion, comprising around 20% of the prison population.
Coloured Africans: Coloured Africans make up around 9% of the prison population.
Indian Africans: Indian Africans represent a small minority, comprising around 1% of the prison population.


Source
https://www./south-africas-prison-population-demographic-breakdown-vkwyf/

https://www.protectionweb.co.za/correctional-services/foreign-nationals-account-for-11-of-the-incarcerated-population-says-dcs/

KingCold:
Ah classic Seppuku, Now we gonna play he says-she says l" right

I can dig up the info but I want you to do it so you see what I already know.

KingCold:
and you desputed that claim, so ddespute it with verifiable claims, it's that simple.

The burden is on he who accuses not he who is defending.

For the record before I am slandered on here. I acknowledge there is a migrant crisis in South Africa and government and home affairs in particular need to do the needful to either regularize people within their borders or deport them back to their countries.

KingCold:
You claim it's "spinning" prove it is.. I'm sick of this

You made the claim about foreigners outnumbering Locals in prisons. I see only one prison mentioned in the article.

Can you post the numbers for the rest of the prisons so we see them in absolute numbers?

KingCold:
LOL.. hahaha .. thought as much.. when it doesn't align with your victim narrative it's "spinning" right?

When it's not 'xenophobia" it's gotta be some other reason other than yourselves . Typical

Post the numbers of your prison populations please.

KingCold:
LOL, Shaka didn't even fight the British the Zulu did long after Shaka was gone

But you clearly stated that it was "Shaka" who fought te British in your previous post. Please go back and redact that statement.

Is Shaka not Synonymous with what you refer to as Zulu people today who are an amalgamation of other clans who were conscripted into this domineering and expansionist group?

KingCold:
Always avoiding accountability.. are you telling me, legitimate concerns of South Africans about crime from foreigners aren't legit? Show me one country in Africa which has is prisons full of foreign prisons than locals

I believe one of your compadres used this spin to justify his hatred of foreigners. Can you post the stats from each of these prisons so we see the numbers?

KingCold:
Except I'm in South Africa talking about the drug dealing I know first hand.. someone from Kaduna regurgitates a xenophobia he has no idea of, two different things..

Yes you live in those drug infested areas and your brother Jabulani bought drugs from that Nigerian peddler down the street.

Shame, I feel sorry for you.

KingCold:
And I'm guessing you're these helpless little innocent law abiding victims.. continue playing the victim card.. you're fooling no one especially me as South African

And you are fooling none of us about how you are victims of swarms of black poor class Africans coming to steal all your resources from you when we see hoards of Europeans swarming your country buying up properties, turning you into servant and pricing you out of most of the rich areas of your own country.

Some Warrior people you are?

KingCold:
Shaka fought the British.

You sold your own to slavery..

Both facts of life

Context is important my dear friend.

Tis fact Shaka fought the btitish but without context it is meaning less. He fought them because they were impeding on his expansionist tendencies and bloody war mongering ways.

He is no hero and you know it.

KingCold:
Please quote where I whined about the presence of Nigerians in South Africa in this post you quoted.

Nigerians have the worst reputationof all Africans boss, and many countries do complain about your presence... ie India, Malaysia, . some countries have even banned you purely for your predisposition to crime.. nobody wants Nigerians in their countries and I repeat nobody, you're at best tolerated, so don't make this a South Africa thing..

Why do you keep bragging to me on how many of these European countries have Nigerian populations? It really doesn't impress me.. it's not a flex you think it is.. the UK you're bragging about is also fed up of you because of your crimes so says your former president Buhari..

If black South Africans have a " hate" problem I shudder to think what y'all have over there since y'all don't even like each other tribally... "Igbo man cant be this and that in Lagos yoruba land" blah blah.. . You're the last people to lecture us about hate my brother, Nigeria is one of Africa's most tribalistic countries so which PTSD yall suffering from? Which side effects from which regime? Yall pointing fingers at us but ignore you own stench at home... we didn't wakeup and started disliking Zimbos and Nigerians in SA.. the dislike was earned... tell me why hate on your fellow yoruba or igbo compatriot..start there!!

We know what your people are doing staring up hatred in the name of your patriotism and we will not let your narrative persist.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krp6kNAJd44

KingCold:
King Shaka fought thick and thin fighting the British..the San also fought the Dutch.. who did Nigerians resist? Because last time I checked they sold their own during the trans-atlantic slave era.. they also sold their own as slaves to Libya as recent as 2022

Shaka was a war monger who the british saw as a threat to their own expansionism in the natal area.

His war was not one of resistance to colonialism.

Stop spinning the story.

KingCold:
A Nigerian in South Africa is a euphemism for a criminal or a drug dealer.. and that stigma didn't create itself ..

But continue choosing a narrative that's more palatable to you like " Naija boyz they ioppress them, they vex nothing" nonsense..

A black South African is synonymous with the word Xenophobia. This label did not create itself by accident either.

The first thing any South AFrican knows about the average black saffer is that they are xenophobic. I challenge you to prove otherwise.

Pot calling the kettle black.

Get out of that bubble you are living in.

Ruke1990:
There are more Nigerians in UK, Cameroon, Ghana than there are in SA, but only SA cries & whines over their presence. Do you know the population of Nigerians in the US, Canada, UK, Italy, Germany? How come those countries are not crying and aren't going nuts and even crazy about Nigerians like SA do?

Perhaps, black SA suffers from hatred problem and inferiority I am aware you guys equally hate Zimbabweans and the white minorities amongst you. So, hate is more of a culture for you guys. The apartheid system put you in combat/aluta mode and you have never recovered since then. More like a national PTSD. After fighting with the colonial leaders, you got to pick other leaders in continent to fight elsewhere there won't be any purpose of living for you guys. In this case, the next leader is Nigeria. I do hope a national recovery programme could be carried out in SA to liberate you guys from the PTSD and hate DNA which arose we side effects of the arpatheid system. You are still in combat mode after winning the arpatheid war. You need urgent national medical attention to calm down the aggression and come out of this "struggle mode" - the struggle for freedom

Na the way Nigerian boyz dey oppress them for their own country dey vex them nothing more.

They just camouflage it in the guise of "drugs peddling"

Ruke1990:
You guys hype this ZA so much. I personally have no intention to visit south Africa. So I am surprised reading the comments of my south African brothers. It makes it look like every Nigerian wants to come there. In Nigeria we have 200m population and 300 tribes. But those travellers coming to south Africa and committing crimes there are mostly from just two tribes - Igbo and yoruba. The Igbos are responsible for the drug frauds over there. The Yoruba are responsible for the cyber fraud over there. The combined population of Igbos and yorubas in Nigeria is about 50m. How could you condemn 258 tribes and 150m people with different cultures and ethnic backgrounds for the crimes committed by people of just 2 ethnic backgrounds with 50m population? We are different from those guys.

Bros you are talking to people who cannot point to 5 different African countries on the map for the life of them.

Stop wasting your breath Randdigital is just likes to poke at Nigerians cause he is bored.

Ruke1990:
Have you ever seen a drug dealer in south Africa who was caught and identified as a Hausa man from northern Nigeria? Have you ever seen a cyber fraudster or drug dealer in your country who was caught and they identified as an ijaw tribe from Nigeria. Those are the number 1 and number 4 most populated tribes in Nigeria but you can never see them commit such fraud. I am just trying to let you see how diverse Nigeria is. You will hardly see these tribes travel out of Nigeria. The globetrotting tribes are the number 2 and 3 in population here, the Igbo and yoruba and they are responsible for most crimes you are accusing many innocent Nigerians of - especially the other tribes that don't like travelling for criminal purposes

Bros its doesn't matter to them stop trying.