AreaFada2:

Well, any half way smart person would verify from Benin people who are not on Nairaland what Ago, (pronounced Ahgor) means before posting anyhow. That is what someone who is not a raving Weyrey would do.

Oga swerve! The same Benin people who wants to steal Ogun, Eshu, Osun, Olokun, Ishango (Shango). Who takes you people serious.

Etinosa1234:


I say that Lagos was once a vassal of Benin kingdom
Not owners of Lagos

Lagos Island (not Lagos), as tiny as it is, was not a "vassal" of Benin. Do you know the meaning of "vassal" at all.

AreaFada2:

You cannot question the amount of information I can give to reasonable silent readers. I know sorting in 9ja education has produced many lazy and narrow minded readers.

Let me spoon feed you a little. Ago Enibode was added to show a previous lazy poster like you that just like Eko is camp, Ago is also a camp and both were used by ancient Benin depending on purpose of the camp.

So Mr Tapa claiming Yoruba, I hope that breakdown is simple enough for you to chew.

Okay, so Ago is also a Benin word? Ago Enibode ko, Ago Palace Way ni. Drooling werey!

uBuNiT:

"Oba" was never a yoruba language. Oba is a Benin language, yoruba just adopt it.

Ogie is your language, not Oba. Oba is Yoruba.

Etinosa1234:


Oh ... Now it's no longer Benin ruled eko... Its now Benin ruled a small area of Eko..
Nice attempt at shifting goalposts... U are doing well

Oya...I've searched the internet and I can't find it... I want u to show written history abt the people of elegushi pre1900... Just any thing abt them

PS: Obas are no historians

But Benin were only in Lagos Island, not the whole of Lagos. And they even owned no land on Lagos Island

Iamgrey5:
@ emboldened

How many Binis have ruled Lagos?

Even the likes of Kosoko, Ggbadsmosi and Obanikoro whose name clearly give them away prefer to identify as Yorubas.

Even Oba of Lagos bears a purely Yoruba name.

The Obas of Lagos are Yoruba. They're the descendants of Alaagba, the Ijesha priest of Oba Akinshemoyin, who married Akinshemoyin's sister Erelu Kuti. Alaagba was the father of Ologun Kutere. All the Obas of Lagos since then are descendants of Ologun Kutere, so how are they not Yoruba? Don't mind these Bini clowns, lol.

Etinosa1234:


1)The Benin also never planned to acquire land outside .The main reason of their conquest was for trade..

2)Lol Take a reference at Oba Akitoye letter once again

3) Lmaoooooooooooo are u that pained abt Benin history that u can't have a civil debate without insults

4)I never said that we owned Lagos... I said Lagos was a vassal of Benin kingdom ... The written history is there for u to see or u can quietly shift... The Yorubas from Ilorin still pay homage to Ife but still doesn't change the fact that the Fulani are the one still ruling there

5)I never knew that ur obas are historian

Lagos Island (not Lagos) was never a "vassal" of Benin. If Lagos Island was a "vassal" of Benin, why didn't Benin send troops to aid it when it was bombarded by the British. Or does "vassal" also mean another thing in Benin?

Etinosa1234:


Lol... Obviously u've run out of steam so quickly

Hope u saw the keyword eyewitness in the excerpt meaning he was present and saw what happened

Lemme use ur analogy here, the British colonised Nigeria... Where are their lands now in Nigeria.. Or
Let me talk abt The Oyo Empire that ruled far west to close to Ghana.... Does the Alaafin of Oyo presently own lands in such region...
U tend to forget that as the British conquest happened.. the defeated kingdoms lost their empires e.g Benin Empire, Fulani Empire, The Dahomey... Should I go on?

Besides, as at the 1800s the British only recognised the oba of Lagos as the major ruler of the land, the rest were considered chiefs ...

Can u tell me abt the history of the elegushi oba ?

Oga, the Obas of Lagos since Ologun Kutere have paternally come of the lineage of Alaagba, the Ijesha priest of Oba Akinshemoyin, who married Erelu Kuti.

Secondly, if Benin "conquered" Lagos Island, how come their descendants (Kings) do not own lands on Lagos Island, buy only the Idejo Awori Chiefs do? Does "conquered" mean another thing in Benin?

AreaFada2:

Sentry camp is the meaning.

It's not even in doubt that people in that area, a large number were followers or people affiliated with Oba Ozolua.

Others were people of his son Oba Esigie. Luckily a Portuguese letter written in 1516 from Benin to Portugal still exists. The Portuguese writer succinctly described the Benin war with Idah.

If you have any knowledge at all, you will know which part of Edo Benin army fought the war from and the subsequent sentry and espionage after the war.

Ignorance might make things sound strange to you. But truth remains same.

What exactly does this Ago Enibode have to do with Yoruba land, Mr. Bini?

Etinosa1234:


Benin actually conquered Lagos, deposed the Olofin and installed a new dynasty

These are eyewitness reports put together by historians

The last one was a letter written by Oba Akitoye...
Does someone who u allowed to peacefully enter ur house begin to dictate how u rule ?

If Benin "conquered" Lagos Island (not Lagos), how come the monarchs own no land? The Idejo Awori chiefs own the lands on Lagos Island.

Daum:



So how did live and let live turn out into a monarchy. Or will you allow a foreigner create a kingship in your land and rule some of your people. The last time the tried to even have an Eze Ndigbo in Akure, it was a crisis.

Live and let's live in that the Benin monarchy in Lagos Island owns no land. The lands belong to the Idejo Awori chiefs.

AreaFada2:

OK I will wait for others to come and confirm their being part of Oyo empire.

Oh boy you sabi lie o. Lai Mohammed Na apprentice for your gand. Chai.

Eko is an ancient Benin word for camp. Another word is Ago. Which also gave rise to Ago Enibode or sentry came that is today Aganebode in Edo North.
Benin territory names of old are littered with military terms of old.

Lol, what is Ago Enibode? This silly Benin revisionists have started again.

codemaniacs:


colonial mentality and self hate is what caused it.

just like MelesZenawi has said, they threw away their native names.

it has nothing to do with trade, as the br:itish were more interested in wiping off and subjugating the indigenous populations rather than helping them.



for lagos names, the british brought black brazilians and other people of African descent from the American continent to replace the indigenous lagos population. it could be the same with the ijaw, igbos and some people from south south

even Samuel Ajayi Crowther was not Yoruba, the british just added ajayi to deceive the yorubas in lagos.

Moronic ignoramus? Which British brought back "black Brazilians and other people of African descent from the American continent to replace the indigenous Lagos population."

This is how you ignorant IPOB idiots go about disseminating your spurious, ill-educated piffle around with confidence. Yoruba returnees from Brazil and Sierra Leone came back to populate Lagos, you idiot!

You even claimed Samuel Ajayi Crowther, from Oshogun, near Abeokuta, was not Yoruba. Uneducated deplorable!

Amotolongbo:
Double 3 export larger beer.

124 mins
6 goals
3 assists

Victor Osimhen is going to give Ciro Imobile And Cristiano Ronaldo the run for the golden boot this season

Not to take anything away from Osimhen, but these matches have again 4th division and even teams lower than that. Calm down.

MelesZenawi:
Yorubas and Bini are same people. So it shouldn't come as a surprise.

Igbos and Igala are same people. So it shouldn't come as a surprise.

Whether a pastor or professor or a politician or a lawyer or a chief or an IPOB miscreant or whatever, an Igbo man will always be an Igbo man. The empty chest-beating, delusions of grandeur and wanton braggadocio is in the blood. What a very funny people

MelesZenawi:



You are very correct...

Igbo has no story or history with bini. all are just made up stories.

Oga stop stop lying. Onitsha people have history with Bini. You can not tell the history of Onitsha without mentioning Benin. Ask Nnamdi Azikiwe.

perryy:


We are not quarrelling with any Yoruba person. We are only telling you that Oduduwa was our son who was condemned to death in the jungle but miraculously found his way into Ile Ife where he eventually became a great king. He was not from the sky and neither was he an Arab man from Mecca. He was a pure African and a prince , the first son of Oguso(skyking) Owodo the last ogiso of Igodomigo kingdom. This became hard for some of you to believe just because of numerous lies propagated by Ibadan printing press the forest printing press in Africa, years before the Benin people could come out with the truth. The People of Ado Ekiti hold the same belief with us. Only the Ife people do not want hear the truth because they believe it is an insult to them to say a man from a fellow African state deposed their king and reigned over them. . . But they don't know what destiny and Providence are.

We ain't fighting u bro, we are connected historically.

The people of Ado Ekiti hold the same spurious, dubious, codeine-influenced, ahistorical 1980s codswallop that Oduduwa was your son called Ekalawhater? Care to show me these "people of Ado Ekiti" that agree with you?

Obalatule:
You ugly bro, most of u are

Yeah, ugly like Mr. Ibu. You're right.

Gracchus:
lol. They have been cursed to alway wander around, they can't escape it. One of dem fools even claim we don't come to school in their tiny mud enclave because we are afraid of competition, Lmao, same Yorubas who school in UK, US, Australia etc will now be afraid of glorified Secondary schools in their regio,when we house the best universities in the country, both public and private.

Lol, these Osu people are very shameless without irony. How can we go to their barren Osuland to school when their own Osu people prefer to school here? Even Achebe their greatest ever intellectual schooled in Ibadan. The Igbo girl that got the highest score in the last Jamb schooled in Ijebu and will even be going to a university in Yorubaland, lol.

Obalatule:
You are Ugly and also Broke, so no hope for you....this the simple truth

Nah! Just that I can't waste my money just to marry an Osu prostitute who probably must have been sold as a sex slave before in Libya.

Obalatule:
Your patronising sex workers says alot about your character, Son of epetado tree court yard

Hahahaha! Pained Osu blockhead! Even your leader Nnamdi Kanu, who is the greatest Osu alive, and whom all you Osus bow down to, was caught and arrested in a Lagos Hotel with a prostitute. Lol, take your L.

Obalatule:
Donald trump is German but a president in the US, does that make US Germany?.....Yoruba people really need to de-emphasize Lagos and focus on bringing Ibadan their regional capital out of the rot it's in

Point of correction, Osu ignoramus. Trump is of German (via his grandfather) and Scottish (mother) descent, not a German. And what silly comparism to make between Lagos and America, lol. All to advance your moronic, akpu-induced Osu piffle that Lagos is not Yorubaland? Lmao, abeg swerve with your delusions. Leave Lagos and focus on Osuland.

Obalatule:
Calm your emotions, All Yoruba men have a fantasy to take Igbo women as wives, i guess you were not lucky....you must be very ugly chai!

"All Yoruba men have a fantasy to take Igbo women as wives." Lol, another paranoid Osu piffle. How could that be when I've never fantasized about having to pay 5 million naira just to marry a yam-legged, hairy-chested, bearded Osu prostitute who will be sharing shaving sticks with me? Tufiakwa!

Obalatule:
you been throwing insults since I started trying to have this honourable discussion with you......watch your emotions yoruba man

I don't have "honourable discussion" with Osu IPOB miscreants. Keep crying to your Nairaland gods to ban me again though, lily-livered, hypocritical Osu coward!

Obalatule:
All those are honest economic activity, It's way better than the agbero system that is so entrenched in Yoruba society...Or am I wrong?

You have agberos all over Osuland, IPOB boy. Onitsha people people complain endlessly of being estorted by Onitsha Agbero miscreant lol.

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Obalatule:
Mynd44 Lalasticlala Come attend to this guy, he keeps throwing insults around, gush

Lol, why are you reporting me to your Nairaland gods to ban me? Lol. Is that how thickskinned you Osu people are. You can insult people but can't take back insults? Lmao. Utterly insecure, easily-triggered triggered clown! For your information, I just came back from a three-week ban so another one means nothing. Bloody Osu coward seeking help to ban me, lmao!

Obalatule:
oh are they now a handful i thought there is no yoruba in igboland?....I keep seeing this black fugly women around too and I heard they offer there smelly bodies along with their goods, true or nah?

Lol, degenerate Osu boy posting a picture of three random women whose identity can't even be verified that there are many Yoruba people in Osuland? Lmao! And what do you mean by "black fully women"? Are your own yam-legged, hairy-chested, bearded Osu women white? And do you mean "black fully women" like Oby Ezekwesili and Ndi-Okereke OnyiUke? Lmao! Osu drooling slowpoke!

Obalatule:
Why did he leave iragbiji his town behind to rot like all Yoruba people going to claim Lagos, is he from epetado Treehouse too

He's Yoruba, end of. Next?

Obalatule:
But Lagos is not yorubaland and was never yorubaland, it's a no man's land

Whatever delusion rocks your boat and makes you sleep at night, Osu Boy. Lagos is not Yorubaland but only Yorubas are the Governors and even make rules for it. Lol, paranoid Osu.

And yeah, Lagos is "no man's land" same way Onitsha and many places in Anambra are Benin and Igala lands. Same way Enugu is Igaland. Same way Abriba is Efik-Ibibio land. You're right.

YorubaRitualist:

Keep making a fool of yourself while your sisters keep sucking off filfths from the those Arabs divcks and keep wailing to Nigerians to save them

Your yam-legged, hairy-chested, bearded Osu women are being sold as slaves in Libya and having their organs invested. Think of how you will save them. Think of how you'll make sure the majority of your Osu women will stop prostitution. People are tired of hearing Igbo every time they patronise a sex worker, lol. It's very worrisome.

Obalatule:
These are all of points, Stop losing concentration.....The discuss ion is How do we force Yoruba people to visit home once in a while, cos I have Yoruba friends that can't point at their home towns on the Map, even yoruba elites are Suffering from this syndrome....people like Tinubu the okpolo eye and co

Once again, it's none of your friggin business what Yorubas do in Yorubaland. Are you not ashamed as an Osu foreigner pokenosing in the affairs of Yorubaland. I mean, I don't talk about how Ngwa people in Aba always threaten to send back all your Ndi Ohuhus back to your respective States. It's simply none of my business. Think home Osu boy. Think of how you'll make your State Capitals appealing so that your fellow Osus won't prefer Boko Haram ravaged hellholes to them. Shameless Osu people.