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Taiwan shouldn't be part of China just like Canada shouldn't and couldn't never be part of USA.
USA and allies caused the problem for Ukraine and Taiwan. Budapest agreement of 1994 made Ukraine to handover their nuclear arsenals to Russia. Allied powers made Taiwan to part of China. Ukraine and Taiwan shouldn't be under influence of Russia and China respectively.
More nations should be formed.
My ogbomoso can also be a country.

prettyayomide01:
In the beginning, the island Taiwan was occupied by various ethnic groups that are/were related to Polynesian people.

Members of the ethnic groups weren't mongoloid like Chinese, Japanese, Korean etc.

The Manchurian people( another Mongolian people) conquered China, and they established a new empire called Qin(in 1644)

Note: the China that I am talking about was mainland China, and has nothing to do with Taiwan.

And, the China I am talking about was an Empire called Ming. It was made up various mongoloid and non mongoloid ethnics. The mongoloid ethnic group Han was the ruling and dominating ethnic group in the empire.


Now, when the Manchurians conquered China( then called Ming empire) they established an empire called Qin empire.

The conquering Qin didn't wipe away everything Ming. Ming empire loyalists that remained waged guerilla warfares against the Manchus(Qin empire)

When this Ming empire loyalists were overwhelmed by the Manchus(Qin empire), they crossed the sea to the island Taiwan to regroup and recoupe.


Like I said, Taiwan was already occupied by various Polynesian ethnic groups. They Ming empire loyalists that crossed to Taiwan in order to find a new base to reconquer China, found some of these ethnic Polynesian people and wiped them away, and chased those that survived into the hinterland.


In the end, the Ming empire loyalists failed to re reconquer China, and the more superior Manchus(Qin empire) used the excuse of Taiwan harbouring Ming rebels to conquer and add Taiwan in the Qin empire.


Take note: Before the days of Ming and Qin, Chinese people have been migrating to Taiwan to do business or finding greener pastures.

But the Ming loyalists were the first Chinese people that applied arm force on Taiwan.


After Qin(the Manchus) took over both mainland China and Taiwan, they ruled them for upto 400 years.

In the year 1912, the Han ethnic group and other ethnic groups who have had enough of the Qin(Manchus) did a revolution and dislodged the Qin.

(Taiwan was still part of China)

The positive result the revolution brought didn't last long. Different factions that sought to control the government emerged. One of the factions was the faction of Communist Chairman Mao Tse Tung, and other the other was Nationalist Chiang Kai Shek faction

(Taiwan was still acknowledged as part of China by both the Communist and the Nationalist)


The Nationalist under Chiang Kai Shek initially had the upper hand in the civil war. In the end The Communist under Chairman Mao Tse Tung won.

Chiang Kai Shek ran to Taiwan with his loyalists and formed a government their, over the illiterate and unexposed Polynesian aborigine ethnic groups.

His plan was to get stronger in Taiwan and be able to reconquer mainland China.

When it became obvious to him that the plan would be near impossible for him, the concentrated on Taiwan and declared it independent from Mainland China.


Afraid that Communist mainland China under Chairman Mao will soon reconquer Taiwan, he (Chiang Kai Shek) allied with America so that America will give his government protection against Chairman Mao.


Now, the thing is why is it that when Chiang Kai Shek had the upper hand in the civil war in mainland China, he recognized Taiwan as part of Mainland China?

But, when he saw defeat, and ran to Taiwan he declared Taiwan an independent country?


Back to the main question in this thread, my answer is that Taiwan is not part of mainland China.


Because, the aborigines of Taiwan were not even the same race with the the mainland Chinese people.

That they were largely illiterate and unexposed
doesn't mean that you(mainland Chinese government) will determine the country the belong in.

You can't say "we have the to right to determine their country because many Mainland Chinese people migrated to and control their island"

Historian! I salute. I love people who love history.

Taiwanese is different from Chinese language. Taiwan is an independent country. China colonized the area. Other empires also did similar thing. Taiwan was spoil of war after defeat of Japanese Army by allies in 1945.
World need more countries.

Dvdpity:
Which country recognize such republic? Stop posting trash. If you need more references please Google Cairo 1945 conference. That was when Taiwan was returned to China. get educated. Although we don't care about your BS. But you can keep it up.

You are not recognized just like formosa republic.

Dvdpity:
This is why people fail exams. Ask question. Answer another thing.

Before you start to talk rubbish.

Every nation in the whole world is made up of different ethnicities. Have that at hand.
Taiwan is a Provence of China.
Its official name is republic of china, who believe that one day they will conquer China mainland.
After Chinese civil war, those Chinese who believe in democratic process were defeated hence fled to the island of Taiwan, where they established the republic of china.

Republic of China (Taiwan) represented the Chinese people until in the 70s when the China mainland influence is growing, and UN recognise china mainland as the sole representative of the Chinese people instead of the China island.
From the United Nations definition of a sovereign country republic of china (Taiwan) is not a sovereign state, can be classified as an autonomous region of China. But not a sovereign state.

Formosa republic

Stupidity.
US army want to drink blood.

Original settlers in Taiwan were not Chinese. They are formosa people. They were invaded and suppressed by Chinese in 15 or 16th century. They represent less than 3% of present Taiwan population. Chinese in Taiwan should go back to China. Formosa and other indigenous people should govern themselves. Republic of formosa

World powers have been using Taiwan to play ludo for centuries. Netherland, Britain, Japan, China and USA.

How would African nations benefit from multipolar new world order?
West is expanding toward former eastern block in Europe and Asia/middle east. Russia is expanding toward former western block in Asia/middle east and Africa.
Ukraine- Russia war is becoming prolong. Is that good for Russia?
US/Vietnam - China war is imminent.
WW3 would be so destructive.
Gods of war want to drink blood.

This is not good. I see stagflation everywhere

BeeBeeOoh:
https://tribuneonlineng.com/terrorists-mobilising-anti-aircraft-weapons-fighters-to-attack-katsina-lagos-others-civil-defence/

Where is DSS? Is there still office of NSA? Security agencies are confused.

JAMO84:
Did you read what you posted?


The letter said that the examination should take place at a safe location, until the abduction, Chibock was one of the safest place in Borno, not a single attack had happened there before. If the parents think the school was not safe, do you think they would allow their children to sit for the exams?

Kai!! Read letter again. Slowly. Pupils to be assembled in safe locations in state capital. Chibok is not a state capital. Shitman was aware of kidnapping. He deliberately ignored FG warning to score political points. Occupy Nigeria, Abuja bombing and Chibok kidnapping were used to blackmail Gej.

Fulani minority over hausa majority
Tutsi minority over hutu majority
Apartheid south Africa
Japanese v Asian majorities during ww2

He is egun by tribe
He is from badagry
He is a journalist
He is an atheist
He is on political exile
He is a lagosian
He is a Nigerian
He is more lagosian than many yorubas who are claiming lagos.
Badagry has been colonized by yorubas. If badagry is in Europe, it might be a sovereign nation.

PlayerMeji:
As if they didn't know that his choice of Shettima was purely political..

The choice of a yoruba pastor in the person of Osinbajo was purely political. Buhari tagged igbos 5%. Christians would be tagged 5%.
Sharia system would be introduced in some parts of SW if Tinubu wins

Tibubu would re-echo these very words in 2023 if he wins.
July 2023
"Constituencies that gave me 97% cannot in all honesty be treatedequally, on some issues, with constituencies that gave me 5 %, I think these are political realities."

Christians would be 5% in 2023.

Nigerians were warned. Another disaster would emerge in 2023.

Richardonald:
What does '' ayederu or ayedelu means

Fake

Election is not about good governance. Election is popularity contest among various candidates based on societal values.
If you want to win national elections in the core North, just show public hatred for Igbo and be a supporter of political Islam and Bokoharam. Buhari is a case study. Shetima , kwakwaso, El rufai are also good examples.

If you want to win national election in the SW, just promote yoruba agenda. Awolowo and Olu falae are cases for study. 1979 and 1999 respectively.

If you want to win national election in SE , just promote business or igbo agenda. Ojukwu didn't win SE as apga presidential candidate because he had no agenda in 2023. Zik won SE in 1979 because of his igbo agenda.

Tribalists and racists are messengers of Satan who is god of hatred and disunity.

June 1, 2023.

Hatred leads to murder.

Muslim would rule for 24 years. 2015 to 2039.

2015 to 2039

Each world power had their rivals.
Anglo-American has rivals too.

Seven world powers:
Egyptian
Assyria
Babylonia
Medo-persia
Greek
Rome
Anglo-America

helinues:
That's actually false information

Those who are not ready to abide by the forum rules should find somewhere to go and display their toxicity

No NL members is immune to to banning except mods themselves

That's actually false information. Nairaland moderators are corrupt and the forum promotes bigotry and tribalism.

Those who are not ready to abide by the Twitter space rules and regulations should find somewhere to go and display their toxicity

No user of Twitter space is immune from being banned except space organisers themselves.

Mstick:
See the comments the owner of Africa's "biggest" tribalist den forum made.

Seun has disappointed many people with his comments.

Many members keep complaining about nairaland policy of banning members, hidding posts and comments. The moderators ban members recklessly. Non-muslims cannot comment on Muslim section. Seun osewa is promoting bigotry and tribalism in nairaland. Twitter is not nairaland.

Karma!!!

Fahdiga:
Confused person. You said the presidency is your lifetime ambition yet all your life you haven't prepared for who to be your running mate. This goes a long way to prove that you don't have any solution to move Nigeria forward but you just wanted to answer the president by fire by force.

You are on point. Tinubu and Tinubu just want to become President even for a month.

perryy:
Admin please help push this to the front page so that it can reach enough audience. Thanks in advance.

Please save me. I bought a Nigerian used bus on December 17th 2021 whose papers have expired on September 2021 and I was still on the process of fixing it before taking it for registration. I had made inquiry from a VIO official by name Tijani as to if I have some days of grace to drive it to where I will fix it before registration and he told me yes. So, this morning, I went to fix the shaft which was making noise but as I was coming back, some VIO men stopped me and demanded for the papers, I told them that I just bought the vehicle that I am yet to do change of ownership as I am still fixing it, as I tried to sort out the purchase receipt from among the old vehicle papers used by the former owner , the VIO ceases the whole papers from me and accused me of driving a vehicle with expired papers. I tried to explain to them that since I'm the new owner, the vehicle could be termed as yet to be registered and since I have not exhaused my days of grace to use yet to be registered vehicle, I did not breach the law. All my pleas and explanations fell on deaf ears . At the end , they ceased my original purchase receipt, my Bus and my driver license and demanded for forty thousand naira from me.as fine. After pleas from me and the head of Admin in the office , the man who said he is the head of patrol team reduced the price to thirty thousand naira , an amount which he said I should pay and go with my vehicle. With this , I became uncomfortable hence, I decided to seek clarifications from a higher authorities or people who know much about VIO operations, to know (1) if I do not have , at most, 90 days to use my vehicle before registration or notification of change of ownership and (2) if at the end it is discovered I broke the law, wether the fine for expired papers is up to the thirty thousand naira (30, 000) as demanded by Mr. Femi who is said to be head of patrol team at VIO Agbara (Ogun state) office.

People, kindly help me as I am getting frustrated. I just lost all my pigs and the only thing I have in this life to sustain myself till succour comes is just this bus. I don't want to really commit suicide as those people are pushing me to do.

Vio guys are thugs. I hope you still have copies of your vehicle papers. Go to them with someone ask for booking evidence and take photos of vehicle in their premise. Tell them you are meeting them in court and you are reporting to head of office. Write a complaint letter detailed what happened to them and copy BIR and vio head office in the state.
Other option is to use military or police officers to harass them if you have any as friend or family member.
Never allow vio to arrest you. Never allow them to collect original vehlicle papers. If you have to create scenes to get attention, please do. They are thugs who are empowered by state government.
I wish you all the best.