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jcross19:
I asked just a quotation of it and you are saying all these then it mean you are not even sure of yourself.

Here it is
Leviticus 26:21-25
And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins

I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.

And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things, but will walk contrary unto me;
Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins.

And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy.

Bible you no sabi, but you dey here dey cry say God love sinners to the point of leaving them in their evil without any judgement.

Keep Sinning, when you die you go know.

jcross19:
how many times now have God killed you or sent wild animal against your home ? or you have not sinned against Him since you were born?. [b]do you really know the meaning of that Jesu did in John 8:5-12 , that thing happened and what's all about?. [/b]in book of Mathew 5:7"blessed are those who are merciful for they shall receive mercy " that's principle of the world in which some people call it law of karma!.

@ bolded, no I don't, pls tell me.

This is all you say to my post?

Sorry, dude, this is not for kids.

jcross19:
you understand it better let me know ! Christian terrorist!.

Just Negodu? Cry baby. boys don't. Wait, are you a pouting girl?

jcross19:
get lost please!if you can't understand me please get off my quote!.

Lolzzzzz. Me can't understand you? Can you understand yourself? See how you dey kick yourself in your balls everywhere.

You alone God is a God of love who does not punish sinners, you alone, God sent Jehu to destroy people and God turned around and destroyed Jehu's house.


So your God destroys those who obey him?

Listen, Jcross, when adults are having a discussion just sit and listen, and stop crying over the place.

jcross19:
I did not notice it but now you are asking me so back it up!

lol. Just help him pls.

budaatum:
You should be able to tell who buda is by observing buda fruit. Or see you not the buda fruit? You are not blind Shepherd!

As to why. Its rather irrelevant. But buda does just not do bread alone, and the Lord God said, "love your neighbours". The Landlords! They just rent to anybody, and to the enemies too. So buda is like Paul, all things to all people.

Honestly? I think you have eyes and can see, so rather than me telling you who buda is, I trust you to decide what you see and label me accordingly. It's after all something you are good at, and I might create a thread for you and call it, Shepherd's Labels for buda!

Being sneaky as ever.

jcross19:
God sent jehu to destroy the house of rehobam after some years the house of jehu was destroyed ! don't allow God used you for destruction because He will still bounce on you for making yourself available!

Igweeeeeeee. Your God is a God of Justice, who I too Loving to kill the defaulters, but here you are saying ' We shd not ALLOW GOD USE US for destruction because he wld turn back and destroy us for obeying Him'

Oga, abeg, for your own good, stay away from teaching scriptures. Go to a good Bible School if you want to understand scriptures and completely depend on the Holy Spirit for illumination.

The kind blunder you don commit here eh.

So, God kills those who obey him?

I wish I can make time to school you on this.

Now go and do a research on why Jehu's house was destroyed. His house wasn't destroyed because he obeyed YHWH. taaaaa.

jcross19:
Am I the one that wrote it there? ask the bible ooooh bro.

I think it wld be good if you'd keep shut if you don't understand scriptures.

jcross19:
am just telling you what the bible say about those prophets without holy spirit! in the old testament.

The Bible did not call the Prophets liars, you did.

Jesus called demons who have been parading themselves as gods in different cultures making men worship them as thieves.


God cannot call Abraham his friend or Moses to whom He spoke face to face, or Elijah His revered Prophet, or Samuel whom He revealed Himself to as a child, or David, a man after his own heart, or Isaiah, or Jeremiah or Daniel or Ezekiel thieves.

Since a prophecy came in Eden that a Seed wld be born of a woman, satan had replicated or presented a virgin born son in every civilization/religion, beginning with Babylon, Egypt, Rome etc, trying to obscure or undermine the birth of Jesus when it finally happens. Those were the thieves The Lord meant. Is it not happening today?
When you mention the virgin birth of Christ, those thieves tell you he is not special because other virgin births have happened, but it's all a lie.

Pls repent of this sin and stop using Scriptures if you don't know what they mean.

jcross19:
God don't need you to defend Him okay! He chooses what ever He likes and He has chosen love over hatred and forgiveness over condemnation! the God I serve is not cruelty god but God of love and justice! look at what really happened in the bible how the Israelites were raping people,killing people, looting people, enslaving people and wrecking havoc every where in the name of God can they try that now and see how the world will dismantle them! they could even over Roman empire that enslaved them for many Years!

This your 'God of Love and Justice's, must have a way he Dispenses his Justice Okwaya? Ngwa, tell me, how does he deal with those who go against his Laws?

Why you dey dodge the passages I posted nau.
Here they are again;

Deuteronomy 32:39-42 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me : I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me .
I will make mine[/b]arrows drunk with blood, and [b]my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenge upon the enemy.

If your God is the God of Love and Justice, then your God is a God of vengeance too. Justice is an act of reprimand.

You don't call a Chief Judge Wicked or Cruel for finding a paedophile or a serial killer guilty of his crimes, whd you?

If God is a God of Justice, then every sinner will be judged, condemned and sentenced according to the law, no sentiments, no emotions.


The 42 young men received their due sentence. And you wld if you don't repent. If you continue in your sins believing God is to loving to sentence you to hellfire when you die, then die and see the terribleness of God.

Paul says God, (The New Testament God) is a consuming fire. Who or what does he consume?

Animals or tress?

Dantedasz:
Christianity makes people into horrible,horrible, and horrible liars.
Every little word is a quest in their aim of shoring up their religion with more lies and spin.
EDICT OF MILAN IN 313.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.biography.com/.amp/political-figure/constantine-i&ved=2ahUKEwjXoffdzpDkAhUrURUIHVrQAJMQFjAQegQIDRA6&usg=AOvVaw1JdbbbwFiQNnpnHtTlhJSH&ampcf=1

Post here the Horrible, horrible lies Christians tell.

MuttleyLaff:
There is no crime. If there is one, then it will be a crime against God committed by those 42 young men and others that might have escaped with bruises but at least had their lives still intact.

So are you saying Moses is lying against God, when he told the Israelites what would happen to their children, if they should reject God and prefer going after idols, false gods etcetera, which is what Bethel, that Abraham and Jacob had previously known with fondest memories has become, it had become the headquarters for idol worshiping and paying homages to false gods.

There is nothing that God ever does that makes God cruel. You have a dim view and narrow understanding of God, if you think and/or talk that way.

I think he is a JW who believes God is too Loving to let Judgement come against a defaulter.

jcross19:
don't justify crime against humanity in the bible by relating it to God it makes God looks cruel!

Can you stop crying for while? Wipe off your tears and stop the hics and talk a little about Judgment and Justice of God.
Do it rationally this time without your emotions. God is not moved by emotions.

How is it Dispensed?

budaatum:
Have you noticed how my divergent views bring out the intolerance and violence in you Dante? I think you need to abandon the religion that makes you so!

I am not ashamed of my gender Dante, and hide it to avoid patronising pigs who instead of engaging with topics at hand want to focus on my tits. See it as saving you from being blinded by them.

It is you who need me to be one thing or the other for reasons best known to you. I myself am buda, and that, apart from what you read me write, is all that need concern you.

Find something to do about your violence and intolerance Dante. You might want to start by abandoning your religion that appears to make you so.

It's not only your gender you mask, everything about you is masked.

Who and what are you? A Muslim, Christian (Who does not believe in Jesus as He calls Christians to do?), a Buddhist or a Hindu? or an ATR? You are everywhere, who are you really?

You shd actually answer that question. "Are you a bat or bird?". There are so many females in here whose tits are not the subject under discussion, why shd yours be different?

Why do you hide under shadows Budaatum? Are you a sexless demon pretending to be human?

jcross19:
God did not order anyone to kill but those who did that for their own selfishness under the name of God! Even Jesus said john 10:8 all who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.!

Who were The Lord referring here?
Moses, Joshua, David, who? Pls mention the thieves you believe the Lord meant.

budaatum:
Did YHWH write that Shepherd?

No, Budaatum you did.
Use that big brain of yours and tell me whose voice you hear in I, Me, Mine.

Na your voice or Na Moses voice you dey hear there? You wey get sense wey no other person get. Mtcheew. Na pride go ke yu.

Deuteronomy 32:39-42 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
I will make mine[/b]arrows drunk with blood, and [b]my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenge upon the enemy.

budaatum:
Shepherd! Where did you get the idea, first, that I "believe", and second, that the "Bible is not the inspired word of God"?! Need I point you to a thread where I showed you in copious posts how inspired I know the Bible happens to be? I wonder why I'd quote it so much if I thought it lacked inspiration.

What you believe or don't believe is actually your business.

If you attest that the Bible is the inspired word of God, why then are you everywhere screaming that the Bible was written by men and not God?

budaatum:
Did God write the Bible God self Shepherd? Is it not the truth that the Bible is a book that "an inspired" person wrote and that to understand it, as opposed to merely believing it, one must be inspired?

May be you shd first explain what 'Inspired' means within the context of Scriptures.

Budaatum, did Moses while in the desert decided, enough of Shepherding, I want to go confront Pharaoh, if he doesn't let the Jews go, I wld give him war?
Did he, unanimously decided to haul down those 12 plaques in Egypt?

Did Moses kill all those First sons in Egypt?
Did he part the Red Sea? Caused Water to flow out of a Rock?
Did he command manner to fall from heaven for 40yrs?

Was it Moses who wrote the Ten Commandments?

Did Joshua push down the Walls of Jericho? Did he part River Jordan foe the Israelites to pass through?

Did these people did these things without YHWH telling them what to do and the ones who wrote were not dictated to what to write?

What gospel are you trying to preach oh ye New Ager?

Shouldn't you concentrate and teach Buddhism instead confusing yourself in Christianity? In Buddhism you people seek knowledge (The bane of Adam).

In Christianity, we first believe what is written, then our inner mines (Our Spirits) are opened by the Holy Spirit then illumination comes, when that happens then Knowledge comes. OUR God has told us how to follow Him, it's either you follow him like that, or you go your way like the Buddhists.

Keep shouting like a lunatic trying to make it seem like Christians don't seek knowledge. And, no, we don't seek for the kind of knowledge you the Buddhists seek after, and we certainly don't seek it the WAY you do.

You seek for knowledge for Self glorification. To show up and pride yourself that you are better than the rest. Carry on Buda. Let's take 100yrs from today, both of will be dead, then we shall find out for sure.

budaatum:
I'm beginning to think you are not a liar after all, just way too unintelligent to understand a word I write! Surely, the "inspired word of God" would require a level of inspiration from God to understand it, or would you not think so?

Hmm, you must think that being condescending actually gives you an edge over people around you.lol. It only shows your low self esteem. A truly intelligent person doesn't need to proof anything. But, you Buda, try very hard.

You write unintelligibly, yet you pride yourself that your writings are too high for me to understand. lolzzzzzzzzzz

What is the difference between God inspiring men to write his ideas (words) and God writing the words Himself?

Are you implying that YHWH couldn't write with His own hands if he wanted to, Or that Him using the hands of men to write invalidates the authenticity of His words?

The Spirit in you keeps trying to draw me into a brawl you, If both of us had the same spirit, I wld have spat out at you in the same vane, but pride is a Spirit I don't have, so I'd let you carry on in your delusion of grandeur.

budaatum:
Did YHWH write that Shepherd?

What did it say? 'I' kill and make alive, 'I' wound and heal

'I', is a first person pronoun. Does it say, Moses said that God said he kills and makes alive?

jcross19:
like I have said many atrocities were committed in Bible in the name of God and God did not send them! how many people have God killed since then?check very well all the wars in the bible were carried out by mortal men why can't God kill them by Himself? or you believe the story of Noah? funny!.

I don't have patience for cry babies. Keep that emotions to yourself and tell me what the passages i posted say?
Or are you like Budaatum who believes that every single Word in the Bible was written by men, so YHWH didn't speak one Word? If that's what you believe, then I give up on you.

BTW. Which God are you talking about, YHWH or some other deity? because YHWH is a God of Justice. And, you can't talk about Justice without talking about convictions or finding offenders guilty and sentencing to death if the sentences warrants that.

Or, you are the kind of Christian who believes that there's no hellfire as God is to kind to let people go to hellfire?

Well, my God is a terrible God who is Greatly to be feared not a weak God who needs you to defend Him? Maybe you feel it make God look bad if you say he killed the Canaanites. Well, He did. No apologies to you or anyone.

Psalms 47:2 [/b]For the LORD most high is terrible; he is a great King over all the earth.[/b]

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Keep fighting or dodging scriptures and keep getting emotional.

Dantedasz:
Keep on masturbating all over the thread as usual. The plain fact is no matter how much you try to spin this Elisha story it is bad for him and for his God.
",Go up baldie"is now a sin in the books of Elisha and his God.Then the appropriate punishment is to be mauled to death by bears. This is why I always say having a discussion with religionists requires suspension of the use of the brain.
Reasoning with religionists is an effort in absurdity just like smacking your head against a concrete wall.

And it won't just be for those 42 young men, you shall also die the second dead like them, if you keep going this way.

MuttleyLaff:
It is better you slam your thick blocked head on a concrete wall, maybe that way, your brain will reset

I wish its me slap reset your brain for you, because your hand lacks correlation with your brain, you when you get a hard on, jump on faith threads and just straight away begin typing nonsense with your rationed data. Everything goes swoosh over your head, like as if it was a Naija Airforce fighter jet and "you don't know warris going on" You have a one-track mind, you do selective reading and you're self conceited. Why dont you first learn to ride, before you next jump on that your high horse, eh? Mtcheeew.

Mind your own business, mind your own lane, mind your own race. Stop sticking your nose in other people's affairs or sexuality. Stick to the message and not the messengers, stick to the program

Don't mind that mofo

budaatum:
Why do you lie Shepherd? Is it not the truth that you read in a book that someone wrote that YHWH said that "he wiped them from the land because of their sins"?

The writer wrote what the writer understood and wanted you to read Shepherd.

Maybe you have convinced yourself that when you keep calling me a liar will automatically become one.

You don't believe the Bible is an inspired Book from God, I do. I quote from it, you call me a liar. You and I who is a lIar Budaatum?

budaatum:
You know very well Shepherd that I always make sense and that it annoys you just because you don't agree with the sense I make.

The writer wrote what the writer understood and wanted you to read Shepherd. It is you who can't make sense of what the writer wrote and had to rely on someone telling you what it meant and the sense it made. Trust me. We will make you use your own head someday because we know you have a head and can use it.

You mean like this passage?

Deuteronomy 32:39-42 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.

I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenge upon the enemy.

Some writer wrote that accusing YHWH abi?

It's a total waste of time talking to a New Ager who claims to know YHWH's Scriptures.

jcross19:
any man who justified the killing in the bible by claiming that God instructed them to do so in fact you are nothing but alqaida!

What can I say to someone as slow as you?

Let me leave you to banter with YHWH here;

Deuteronomy 32:39-42 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: ~~~I kill, and I make alive;~~~ I wound, and I heal:~~~ neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.

I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenge upon the enemy.

Jehovah must be an algaida.

mysticwarrior:
I was equally shocked when I saw that post, how can the devil be a messenger of God.

I'm just tired. and someone liked it.

jcross19:
can you see then why are you blaming book haram? Who killed for abusing their religion and their god?

You can begin killing people in the name of Jesus then

budaatum:
Why do you lie Shepherd? Is it not the truth that you read in a book that someone wrote that YHWH said that "he wiped them from the land because of their sins"?

The writer wrote what the writer understood and wanted you to read Shepherd.

You can be very annoying Budaatum. Just reread what you typed if it makes any sense.

Abeg carry your truthfulness and go.

MuttleyLaff:
Charlatan! Wee yu kip kwayet there, or I'll expose your ignoranus arse

The guy eh.

MrPresident1:
Angel means messenger, angels are the sons of God

Job 2:1
Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the Lord.

Origin

Old English engel, ultimately via ecclesiastical Latin from Greek angelos ‘messenger’; superseded in Middle English by forms from Old French angele

Pls proof that all the wickedness unleashed on earth by satan and his agents is sponsored by God, since satan is working for God.

MrPresident1:
I prefer KJV

Revelation 12:7-10
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

A composite understanding of the Bible is needed to understand the nature of satan as a messenger of God. Satan is a seducer, if you allow him to seduce you, he embodies you and you embody him, you become one and the same with him.

What have you said now? And that stupid fellow liked your comment again.

MrPresident1:
Satan is a messenger of God, he does as he is told by God.

Sad how people are so dead in thinking. The person who liked this post is like an idol worshiper.

The Lord says the idols and those who worship it are dead.

How can someone say satan is working for God and you liked the stupid comment?

Olujames3020:
Hmmm this the question I have being asking and I haven't gotten a satisfactory or empirical response that applies to human reasoning.
Putting differently, if God is merciful and gracious. will Satan be forgiven if he sincerely repents?

That's because human reason is stupid when it comes to godly matters.